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PostPosted: 08 Jul 2011 20:59 
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I recall in early 2000 i was wonderstruck and left with a sort of desperate feeling when i read that the Chinese were adding 300,000 cell phone connections everyday.
Since things have changed. :)


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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2011 08:23 
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Etisalat dealt another blow in India
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Indian authorities over the weekend accused five directors of Etisalat DB, the Indian joint venture of the UAE’s telecoms operator, of alleged foreign direct investment and foreign exchange violations worth about $1.6bn.

Balesh Kumar, the Enforcement Directorate special director who issued the notices, told the Financial Times that Etisalat had increased its stake in Swan Telecom – later renamed Etisalat DB – above 49 per cent without seeking regulatory approval. Under India’s FDI rules for the telecoms sector, a foreign group seeking to acquire a stake greater than 49 per cent needs approval from the Foreign Investment Promotion Board for the transaction.


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Green is up? omg! yes so it is!


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 01:26 
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Trai speeds up 4G auction process.

Identifies spectrum for 4G services; eight firms to be accommodated; discussion paper to be out by Aug and recommendations by Oct.

The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai) has identified at least six blocks of 20 MHz spectrum each which can be auctioned to telecom companies for offering 4G services. 4G enables data speeds of 5-12 mbps on mobiles and is many times faster than 3G.

The spectrum identified includes the 700 Mhz band as well as the 2.5-2.6 gigahertz band. This means the government will be able to offer 4G spectrum to eight companies, leading to tough competition.

This exercise is part of Trai’s plan to come out with recommendations on 4G auctions by October. A consultation paper on the road map is expected by August.

Two spectrum blocks in the 2,300 Mhz band have already been given for broadband wireless access (BWA) — with Reliance Industries getting a pan-India licence in collaboration with the HFCL group. There are around 12 2G players and five 3G players per circle.

The 4G road map which Trai is working on envisages allowing voice-over-internet telephony between mobile and landline networks. At present, internet calls are allowed between PC and PC, but without any connectivity to a PSTN network.

Permitting voice-over-internet calls will open a new market, especially for companies such as Reliance Industries, which have bought a pan-India BWA licence but cannot offer voice calls until they tie up with a 2G operator. At present, they can offer only data services.

Trai is also planning to come out with a new policy for value-added services which may lead to sweeping changes in the telecom sector. It will hold consultations on key issues such as whether value-added services, like other telecom services, should be bought under a licence regime.

Consultations will also be held on the need for Trai to intervene in bilateral revenue-share agreements between telecom and value-added service companies. Many software developers complain that telecom companies squeeze them for margins.

It is also discussing the need to create intermediaries to offer value-added services solutions to all telecom companies (become aggregators of such services) based on a transparent revenue-share model. Right now, telecom companies sign bilateral agreements with value-added service providers.

Trai says about 108 Mhz spectrum is available in the 700 Mhz band. However, it says anything between 60 MHz and 84 Mhz has been taken by government agencies and is used in areas such as analog TV transmission and defence.

Trai is of the opinion that this band should be kept for 4G applications. It wants an earlier plan to keep a part of this band for digital broadcasting and mobile TV to be changed.

In the 2.5 gigahertz band, out of 190 Mhz, 150 Mhz is with the Department of Space, which has in turn given it for broadcast and mobile satellite services. Trai is of the opinion that 80 Mhz to 120 Mhz in this band can be vacated or refarmed for broadband wireless services.


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 01:38 
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The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai) has identified at least six blocks of 20 MHz spectrum each which can be auctioned to telecom companies for offering 4G services. 4G enables data speeds of 5-12 mbps on mobiles and is many times faster than 3G.


What rot. HSDPA is 7 Mbps and HSDPA+ goes up to 21 Mbps. Even plain vanilla R99 3G was 2 Mbps.

Current LTE speeds are 100 Mbps. that I have seen with a Huawei RAN.

Fat chance of any spectrum allocation being done quickly given the 2G fiasco. Babus will not take any decision at all for fear of censure.


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Even plain vanilla R99 3G was 2 Mbps.

R99 was only 384Kbps
Cat 12 HSDPA the first to be introduced was 1.8Mbps, then cat6 and cat 8 followed


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PostPosted: 16 Jul 2011 20:01 
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^^OT but did not all European operators deploy UMTS R99 directly at 2 Mbps? I am pretty sure that was the case in UK. Not 100% sure how the US AT&T did, but I would suspect it was the same... So for all practical purposes, 3G R99 started off at 2 Mbps (its another matter if a user in a cell was doing 2 Mbps, others pretty much could do nothing)

What was the case in India?


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Tanaji there is a fundamental difference between R99 UMTS and R5 UMTS(aka hsdpa) in R99 the max data rate is 384Kbps but this is a dedicated channel to deliver data to the user. However, in the case of r5 umts the data is delivered on shared channel, which means the network schedules data to users based on their data requirement and channel conditions. Network throttles the data and most nw implementations make sure that no user is starved if he is experiencing good channel conditions.

There was 3g in r99(384kbps) deployed by docomo in japan and in spain(i was there to oversee field testing in madrid in 2004)


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PostPosted: 17 Jul 2011 13:29 
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I am genuinely confused now.. I worked on the core (SGSN) so not too familiar with the radio aspects. But I am pretty sure we were dimensioning for 2 Mbps bearers *before* R4/R5 came along, and it was plain R99. I dont think you had to go HSDPA to get 2 Mbps, this was covered in R99. Time to dig into specs...


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Green is up? omg! yes so it is!

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8.58 million GSM users added in June: COAI

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The Indian telecom sector may be heading for tough times with Indian GSM telecom operators adding less than 10 million subscribers for the second month in a row, bringing in just 8.58 million new subscribers in June.

According to cellular operators' association COAI just 8.58 million new GSM subscribers were added in June, taking the all-India GSM cellular subscriber base to 598.77 million.

In May, GSM operators had added 9.53 million new GSM users, the first time since October 2009, when 10.76 million subscribers were added to the GSM network.

The GSM subscriber base stood at 590.19 million at the end of May, as per data released by the Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI).


Apparently the concept of life cycles and reaching maturity stages is lost on the Indian media. Perhaps once India reaches over 80-90% penetration, then we can expect them to start writing on the death of the Indian telecom industry.

The signs of consolidation are visible already and churns are also lower because the rates are so stable across the board. Wish they would go down a little more though!


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India's wireless subscriber base increased from 840.28 million in May 2011 to 851.70 million at the end of June 2011, registering a growth of 1.36%, according to data supplied by the telecom regulator.


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PostPosted: 26 Aug 2011 19:03 
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Lowest GSM users added in 32 months.

Mobile phone service providers on the GSM platform added only 7.6 million subscribers in July, nearly half of 14.6 million added in February this year. This also marks the lowest customer addition during the last 32 months. The dramatic fall in customer adds indicates that the times of adding 15 million customers on a monthly basis may be over. Cellular Operators Association of India said that operators, including Bharti Airtel, Vodafone and Idea Cellular, had added 7.6 million customers in July.

State-run operator BSNL added 1.7 million customers, highest in comparison with Bharti that added 1.5 million, Vodafone with 1.4 million, Idea and Uninor that managed to grab a little over 1 million customers each in July. This also marks the first time in over two years that BSNL has topped customer monthly customer additions. Videocon continued its losing streak as more than 95,000 customers chose to move to other service providers over the month.

On the brighter side, India's GSM subscriber base crossed 606 million subscribers over July, up from 598 million in June and 555 million in February this year. Cellular additions in India, especially on the popular GSM-technology, have been sliding for six consecutive months indicating that the dual SIM effect and hyper competition that drove the world's fastest growing market for the last two years has begun to peter out.

The total new connections figure would most likely cross 10 million when Reliance and Tata numbers are added later.


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GSM subscriber additions fall for 4th month in a row.

Slowdown in the telecom sector continued last month, with GSM operators adding just about 5.33 million subscribers in August, compared to 7.65 million in the earlier month.The GSM subscriber base, thus, stood at 611.75 million at the end of last month.

For the fourth month in a row, subscriber additions continued to decline. In May, for the first time since October 2009, the subscriber additions was below the 10-million mark when 9.53 million GSM users were added.

In June, the numbers dipped further and only 8.58 million GSM users were added.The GSM subscriber base stood at 598.77 million at the end of June, and in July 7.64 million subscribers were added to take the total 606.41 million.

Bharti Airtel, the largest GSM player, added 1.15 million users in August, taking its total subscriber base to 171.84 million, data released by the Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI) showed.It had 28.09% market share at the end of August.

Rival Vodafone Essar, with a 23.56% market share, notched up 1.13 million new subscribers during the month. Its subscriber base reached 144.14 million in August.Aditya Birla group firm Idea Cellular added 2.33 million users during the month to take its total user base to 98.44 million, while Aircel added 602,312 customers to take its subscriber base to 59 million.State-owned telecom firms BSNL and MTNL added 388,057 and 32,932 new users, respectively, taking their subscriber base to 90.62 million and 5.29 million, respectively.

The COAI data excludes data from Reliance Communications.GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) is the most popular standard for mobile telephony systems in the world.

The other technology platform on which Indian telcos offer services is CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access), where players such as Tata Teleservices (TTSL), RCom and MTS are the main operators.The two offer both GSM and CDMA services.


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Across the world, the new value driver is data, and this will be true in India as well. The current 3G prices are too exorbitant currently in my opinion, and I keep hearing constant feedback from people with 3G connections that the speed is nowhere as quick as advertised.

Telecom is a very capital intensive business, and the bad market conditions and the very high interest rates are not allowing the telecom companies to invest in infrastructure. In my own personal experience, I have seen the quality of my own Vodafone connection go down, with more call drops, worse coverage and the rates staying the same.

Not that new connects made any money for the telecom companies with such low rates for new subscriptions, but at least there was comfort in numbers!

I have a reliance Netconnect and even these guys increased their prices by Rs. 50 per month! Damn, and I thought technology could only get cheaper.


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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2011 19:57 
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Call rate hikes will be even more with the inevitable consolidation/buy outs from amongst the existing service providers.


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BSNL staff to go on ‘mass fast' today - Hindu Business

Posting in full. It seems BSNL is also headed in Air India way. These two PSU behemoths will drain exchequer a lot.

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Executive and non-executive staff of public sector telecom company BSNL will observe a “mass fast” tomorrow, followed by an all-India strike on October 10.


The Joint Action Committee of BSNL officers' associations and unions said this was part of their plan to “save” the company and their jobs.
Anti-psu policy

“We want BSNL to get back all the money that it has lost mainly because of the Government's anti-PSU policy and mismanagement at the top level,” Mr V.A.N Namboodiri, Convenor of the JAC, told Business Line.

The demands include refund of broadband spectrum charges of Rs 8,313 crore, flexibility in selecting circles, refund of licence fee, full compensation for rural services, procurement of equipment, etc.

They are also opposing BSNL's plans to reduce employee strength by offering voluntary retirement to one lakh employees above the age of 45.

Currently, BSNL has 2,76,306 employees. It plans to cut staff strength by almost half with the scheme and aims to save Rs 35,266 crore of wages. The “‘ratio of salary cost to income has risen sharply from 32 per cent in 2008-09 to more than 46 per cent in 2010-11,” the offer said. It also said that the average employee age at 49 years was “very high.”

The voluntary retirees have also been offered BSNL outsourcing work “opportunities,” as individuals or co-operatives, such as maintenance of small exchanges, power plants, EPABX installation, direct selling agents, and rural distribution.

But, employees blame the Government for BSNL's present plight. “There is an acute equipment crunch. We have at least 2,000-5,000 applications for new connections in almost all cities, but broadband modems, cables, etc are not being purchased,” said Mr Namboodiri. He said he met the Telecom Minister, Mr Kapil Sibal, recently, but he has not responded.
Rs 10,000-cr loss

Mr Namboodiri said losses on account of rural landlines stood at Rs 10,000 crore annually. “At the time of BSNL's formation, the Government has assured the company that it will be compensated fully for the losses. In 2005-06, it was compensated Rs 8,000 crore, but now this has come down to Rs 2,000 crore,” he added.

According to the company's unaudited results, losses for 2010-11 have been estimated at Rs 5,997 crore.

BNSL services may not be affected tomorrow. However, if the situation persists, services may be affected on October 10.


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The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (Trai) has identified at least six blocks of 20 MHz spectrum each which can be auctioned to telecom companies for offering 4G services. 4G enables data speeds of 5-12 mbps on mobiles and is many times faster than 3G.


What rot. HSDPA is 7 Mbps and HSDPA+ goes up to 21 Mbps. Even plain vanilla R99 3G was 2 Mbps.

Current LTE speeds are 100 Mbps. that I have seen with a Huawei RAN.

Fat chance of any spectrum allocation being done quickly given the 2G fiasco. Babus will not take any decision at all for fear of censure.


They have already quickly auctioned 3G. This babu fear case is only an excuse for not acting fast on Defence contracts to Negotiate/ satisfy vested interests.

One the first acts of UPA-1 was to cancel the Denel contracts to satisfy certain interests outside the country since 1) The Denel anti-material rifles which could Penerate paki Bunkers were one of the chief reasons why they agreed for the 2003 ceasefire, they had no quams about exchange gun fire from 1989-2001 when in operation parakram the post Kargil inductions, the Denel anti material rifle had a telling effect on the paki soldiers. The Denel contract would have also rapidly upgraded the Indian artillery which it was felt would make the Indian army too aggresive.


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BTW BSNL also gives 10 rs credit for each prepaid number when your balace runs to 0.


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BSNL staff to go on ‘mass fast' today - Hindu Business

Posting in full. It seems BSNL is also headed in Air India way. These two PSU behemoths will drain exchequer a lot.


BSNL is one company that is killing itself out of the fact that its now a badly run PSU. If one compares the financials of BSNL till even a few years ago, it was a very healthy profitable company. Now the weight of all the telecom obligations of the country are showing. Even though it was saddled with the tough task of rural telephony, it earned Rs. 2000 crore in annual subsidy for this which the government is planning to scrap. The private telecom operators simply whined their way out of it.

The government gave them first shot at 3G and they had absolutely no idea how to market it. Till late last year, they were the 5th largest telecom operator behind Airtel,Voda,Reliance and Tata, and only got beaten by Idea earlier this year. Its been losing revenue continuously for the past 5 years, while its capital investments have been rising steadily.

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India's new telecom policy allows for a lot of new things. Number one benefit for the consumer - no roaming! So instead of 22 circles, there will be a pan India license. The new policy also allows for consolidation and spectrum sharing. The deadline for the policy to be finalized is Dec 31.

Bloomberg: Bharti Says India Airwave Share Plan to Add ‘Needed’ Capacity to Carriers

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India’s plan to make more spectrum available to mobile-phone operators and allow sharing and trading of airwaves will provide carriers with “much needed” extra capacity, Bharti Airtel Ltd. (BHARTI) said.

Airwaves held by some government departments, companies and telecommunication services providers may be freed up, Kapil Sibal, India’s telecommunications minister, said at a news conference in New Delhi yesterday. India will “facilitate consolidation” in the industry while ensuring competition, create a single nationwide permit, separate the sale of spectrum and licenses, and audit use of airwaves, he said.

A company with a license to provide phone services can’t sell a stake for three years, according to existing rules. Each of India’s telecommunications zones needs to have a minimum of three carriers.

India will promote the production of telecommunications equipment with 65 percent value addition locally to meet 80 percent of the industry’s demand by 2020, Sibal said. The government proposes to set up Telecom Finance Corp. to fund projects, he said.



IBNLive: India unveils new draft telecom policy

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Spectrum ownership

Under the new proposals, second-generation mobile spectrum that now comes bundled with a telecoms license will be separated and priced on a market basis, which means operators will have to pay for additional radio airwaves.

Spectrum sharing, pooling and trading will be permitted, and an exit policy for operators will be drawn up under the new plans, which called for 300 megahertz of additional spectrum to be released by 2017 and 200 megahertz more by 2020.

Rural connectivity

Rising incomes and a bulging middle class have made mobile phones ubiquitous in modern urban India. But teledensity - the number of phones per 100 people - in rural areas currently stands at around 35. The new proposals aim to increase that to 60 by 2017, and to 100 by 2020, opening up the market to millions of currently unconnected Indians.

The policy also proposes providing high speed broadband through optical fiber networks to village governments across the country by 2014.

"Right to broadband"

Placing connectivity alongside basic needs such as education and health, the government's new "Right to Broadband" strategy proposes 175 million high-speed connections by 2017 and 600 million by 2020. The proposals will also upgrade India's broadband download speed to 512 kbps from 256 kbps, and promises a minimum download speed of 2 mbps by 2020.

One nation-one License, no roaming charges

India's telecoms industry currently operates under 22 zone boundaries, meaning a subscriber with a New Delhi registered connection pays roaming fees should they use it outside the city limits, much like moving between countries in Europe.

The new proposals aim to make that a thing of the past, building on a roll-out of number portability across networks launched this year to work toward connections that are not locked to a single geographic area.

Domestic promotion

With a goal of making indigenous technology equipment manufacturers self-sufficient, the proposals aim for domestic manufacturers to meet 80 per cent of the industry's demand by 2020, with a value addition of 65 per cent.

That will be driven by a fund to promote domestic research and development and innovation, and the creation of preferential market access for domestically-made products such as mobile network equipment, devices and SIM cards with enhanced features.


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GSM operators add 6.52 million new subscribers in September.


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Nope.. BSNL was killed by Politicos to favour some Pvt Cos. During the peak period of telecom revolution BSNL was not permitted to increase capacity. Check out how the the tendering for 42 million additional lines were held up. If you do not let BSNL expand capacity how will they survive.


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The Union Minister for Human Resource Development and Communications and Information Technology, Shri Kapil Sibal and the Minister of Education of the Republic of Mozambique, Mr. Zeferino Alexandre signing an MoU between India and Mozambique, in New Delhi on July 13, 2011.
Do anyone notice the flag :cry:

Date:20/10/2011
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BHARAT GAURAV complained to register FIR against Kapil Sibal for disrespect to National Flag: Vijay Sampla
Today Bharat Gaurav (an orgn. Dedicated to the country) led by Vijay Sampla approached police authorities for registration of FIR aginst Union Minister for Human Resource Development and Communications and Information Technology, Sh. Kapil Sibal for disrespect of National Flag. Sampla showed the photographs hosted on viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3635&start=840.
Wherein Union Minister for Human Resource Development and Communications and Information Technology, Sh. Kapil Sibal and the Minister of Education of the Republic of Mozambique, Mr. Zeferino Aledandre signing an MoU between India and Mozambique, in New Delhi on 13th July this year. . In this photograph national flags of both the countries are hoisted on the table in front of respective ministers of both the nations. Our national flag in front of our union minister Mr. Kapil Sibal was in reverse order i.e. Green Band of the flag was on the top instead of Saffron Band. Sampla said that if our national representatives and leaders will be so careless and will disrespect our national flag, what message they will be giving to the common man. Sampla asked the police authorities to register FIR under section 2 of The Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971 which clearly states that WHOEVER in public place or in any other place within public view burns, mutilates, defaces, disfigures, destroys, tramples upon or otherwise shows discrespect to or brings into contempt the Indian National Flag , shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both. Sampla further said that displaying the Indian National Flag with the “Saffron” down clearly the case of disrespect to the Indian National Flag which comes within the perview of sub clause l of explanation 4 to section 2 of the said Act. Sampla said that “Bharat Gaurav” will not tolerate any case of disrespect of National Flag by any person of whatever stature he may be. Released by: Vijay Sampla Convener, 09876099143


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Nope.. BSNL was killed by Politicos to favour some Pvt Cos. During the peak period of telecom revolution BSNL was not permitted to increase capacity. Check out how the the tendering for 42 million additional lines were held up. If you do not let BSNL expand capacity how will they survive.

Reliance Telecom hired retired BSNL officials who brought the land lines maps of the country and gave it to Rel Telco
Reliance used that information and their connection to penetrate and take over all the subscribers and stopped the growth of BSNL


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Achrayaji, not nitpicking but Relinace used the Officials for its plan to build and lay the OFC network in the country.It was not interested in the landline business and was targetting the Wirless and Data/Content space.


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Achrayaji, not nitpicking but Relinace used the Officials for its plan to build and lay the OFC network in the country.It was not interested in the landline business and was targetting the Wirless and Data/Content space.

getting the location of the nodes and hubs were the main reason.
Also market data and high density will create a larger market.


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India's telecom story over? Six top executives of mobile companies including Bharti, Tata Teleservices, R-Comm hunting new jobs


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65% reservation for local mobile equipment manufacturers - Economic Times

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A telecoms department (DoT) committee, examining the issue, has concluded that these concessions as well as reservations for local mobile equipment manufacturers were necessary from a national security perspective. This committee has cleared the proposal that mandates domestic operators to source 65% of their annual hardware and network-related equipment from Indian companies by 2020.
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Trai had also recommended that companies owned by Indians and located here get 65% of all telecom network orders by 2020. Put simply, the regulator had sought that manufacturing arms of international vendors such as Ericsson , Nokia Siemens , Alcatel-Lucent and Huawei amongst others to account for only 15% of all equipment orders by 2020.


A good and sensible move by GOI. I think the biggest loosers will be Huawei and ZTE.


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^^ Which Indian cos can satisfy these conditions? :-?


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Smartphone makers gave India spy tools, 'leaked' memos say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45931204/ns/technology_and_science-security/

I knew they would give into GoI. :twisted:


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Smartphone makers gave India spy tools, 'leaked' memos say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45931204/ns/technology_and_science-security/

I knew they would give into GoI. :twisted:


If this is true, and the Indian intelligence hack was detected, more reason for mobile phone companies to not give additional details to India. And this time they can fall back on the excuse that their government does not allow it for national security reasons.

I would not be surprised if the mobile companies colluded with the US govt or with China to bring this about, just to create the excuse for stopping cooperation with India. And if Samsung/Apple/RIM/Google/HTC etc all present a united face "we will no longer share info with India" then what leverage does GoI have to make them comply?


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Singhaji:

Nortel DMS100 used its own custom equipment LIU7s which provided for a whole host of features including hot redundancy. When they moved to CS2K, all of it moved to SAM16 platform. No Sun workstations were ever used.


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PostPosted: 12 Jan 2012 03:33 
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Fidel Guevara wrote:
rajkumar wrote:
Smartphone makers gave India spy tools, 'leaked' memos say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45931204/ns/technology_and_science-security/

I knew they would give into GoI. :twisted:


If this is true, and the Indian intelligence hack was detected, more reason for mobile phone companies to not give additional details to India. And this time they can fall back on the excuse that their government does not allow it for national security reasons.

I would not be surprised if the mobile companies colluded with the US govt or with China to bring this about, just to create the excuse for stopping cooperation with India. And if Samsung/Apple/RIM/Google/HTC etc all present a united face "we will no longer share info with India" then what leverage does GoI have to make them comply?

The solution is as was during RIM issue isnt it. Unless hack is given, no market in India.


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PostPosted: 19 Jan 2012 11:10 
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rajkumar wrote:
Smartphone makers gave India spy tools, 'leaked' memos say

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45931204/ns/technology_and_science-security/

I knew they would give into GoI. :twisted:


Fake letter blows lid off hackers’ espionage claim
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NEW DELHI: A sensational claim by a hacker group -- that India was secretly granted access to the data networks of Apple, Nokia and Blackberry -- which triggered a formal US investigation, could be based on an elaborate hoax.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 456606.cms

Fake Lords of Dharmaraja
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More than serving any patriotic cause, it is clear that hackers were trying to embarrass India.

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There is a good chance that they are not even Indian.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/220 ... -blog.html

Suspicion grows China was behind hack of U.S. commission
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(Reuters) - Suspicion is growing that operatives in China, rather than India, were behind the hacking of emails of an official U.S. commission that monitors relations between the United States and China, U.S. officials said.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/01/1 ... JW20120118


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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2012 11:05 
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Supreme Court cancels grant of 2G licences
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The Supreme Court today cancelled the grant of 2G licences. It held that 122 licences for 2G spectrum were granted in arbitrary and unconstitutional manner.
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The court asked TRAI to make fresh recommendation on grant of 2G licences.


Ouch...


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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2012 02:35 
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Blackberry maker gives in, sets up messenger server in India.


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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2012 12:39 
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Chinese Hackers Suspected In Long-Term Nortel Breach
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For nearly a decade, hackers enjoyed widespread access to the corporate computer network of Nortel Networks Ltd., a once-giant telecommunications firm now fallen on hard times.

Using seven passwords stolen from top Nortel executives, including the chief executive, the hackers—who appeared to be working in China—penetrated Nortel's computers at least as far back as 2000 and over the years downloaded technical papers, research-and-development reports, business plans, employee emails and other documents, according to Brian Shields, a former 19-year Nortel veteran who led an internal investigation.

Now now...who in China would have benefitted from a then-leading telcoms gear maker's stolen IP......


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PostPosted: 14 Feb 2012 13:58 
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....and then gone on to replace them in so many of the third world telecom contracts with far cheaper, but copied, technology.


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