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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 14:13 
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Third Su-30mki crash today, reported just minutes ago near pune in Kashnand village, both pilots safe !


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 14:19 
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3rd or 2nd?


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 14:22 
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sum wrote:
3rd or 2nd?


todays the 3rd incident :((

1st on 30 april 09
2nd on 30 nov 09


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 14:46 
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at least the pilots are safe, hope no injuries either.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 14:55 
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X post.

Indian Air force SU-30 MKI crashes in Pune

Spares are a problem here too. I will add more into the issue. keep refreshing after some time.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2011 15:49 
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13 Navy personnel escape fire

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MANGALORE: Thirteen Navy personnel on board the Indian Navy helicopter (IN566), which stopped at Mangalore Airport to refuel, had a providential escape when the fire which erupted near the rotors was swiftly contained by the alert rescue and fire fighting services in Mangalore Airport on Monday.

Mangalore Airport sources said that at 10.45 am the Garuda Indian Navy helicopter (Call sign/registration IN556 type) flying from Cochin to Mumbai landed at Mangalore for refueling.

When the helicopter moved to parking stand 1, smoke was first seen near the rotors and CISF personnel reported the smoke to ATC at 10.56 am. When the smoke which subsequently developed into fire could not be contained with carbon monoxide, the services of Airports Authority of India (AAI) swung into act.

“There was no casualty and all 13 personnel on board were safe,” Mangalore Airport director M R Vasudeva informed. The helicopter was declared not air-worthy and grounded at the Mangalore Airport. The 13 personnel were shifted to Mumbai in a doriner aircraft, sources from the airport told Express.


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PostPosted: 16 Dec 2011 18:27 
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Happens to the best of them! For those who blamed the Russians for faulty cockpit ergonomics in the first Su-30MKI crash, read the Alaska F-22 crash report.

http://usaf.aib.law.af.mil/ExecSum2011/F-22A_AK_16%20Nov%2010.pdf


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PostPosted: 16 Jan 2012 00:53 
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BSF Dhruv crashes in Raipur - 5 injured

Dhruv crash: Decision on grounding fleet only after enquiry, says DGCA officials


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PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 16:11 
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HAL trashes DGCA findings on pilot, manual

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Hit by Director General of Civil Aviation (DGCA)’s findings into the 2010 August Chetak crash, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) launched a strong defence terming some of the comments as “incorrect”.


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PostPosted: 31 Jan 2012 20:38 
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IAF trainer aircraft crashes near Chennai
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 698637.cms

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CHENNAI: A Kiran Trainer Aircraft of IAF today crashed on the outskirts of the city during a routine training sortie, but both the pilots ejected to safety.

The two-seater aircraft, which left the Air Force Station at suburban Tambaram, crashed near Iyancherry village, some 30 km from here, police said.

"A Court of Inquiry has been ordered to find out the reasons for the crash", a Defence Ministry release said.


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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2012 15:46 
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^^ actually i do have dout here.. these aircrafts are for trainers right.. then why Wing Co and Sqn Ldr... doing sorties with trainers..?


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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2012 21:09 
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^^ Flying Instructor's School, this is where Instructors are trained. More here http://indianairforce.nic.in/show_page.php?pg_id=140


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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2012 10:15 
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Indian Military Aviation Flight Safety Report – 2011


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 17:15 
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http://tkstales.wordpress.com/2011/11/0 ... rthigeyan/

Read the above about the investigation process in the IAF. Wonderful read


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 13:28 
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Breaking: IAF Mirage crashes in MP, both pilots eject safely.


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 13:39 
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damn it, the one thread that i dont want to see surface surfaces again. Thank god the pilots are safe. Pray they are no casualties on the ground


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 14:24 
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Dang!!
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mirage-2000-fighter-plane-crashes-in-mp-pilots-safe/916206/

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A Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force (IAF) on Friday crashed near Bhind in Madhya Pradesh soon after taking off from an air base in Gwalior but both the pilots managed to eject.

The Mirage 2000 aircraft was on a routine training sortie when it developed a snag in the engine and crashed near Bhind district, an IAF spokesperson said.

He said the two pilots in the aircraft had managed to eject and search and rescue operations have been launched to locate them.

The IAF has ordered a court of inquiry (CoI) to ascertain the reasons behind the crash.

The Air Force operates a fleet of 51 Mirage aircraft from the Maharajpura air base in Gwalior.

These aircraft started getting inducted into the IAF in the mid-80s and have had a very good flight safety record, the spokesperson said.

The IAF has also recently signed two deals worth over $ 3.2 billion for upgrading the capabilities of the Mirage 2000 with French companies Dassault, Thales and MBDA.

This is the second crash involving an IAF aircraft this year. A Kiran MK II trainer plane had crashed in Chennai on January 30.

In this financial year, this is the eighth crash of a fighter aircraft
:evil: :( of which most were from the MiG 21 series.



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Update on the Mirage crash:
The two missing pilots have been found. Wing Commander Ram Kumar and co-pilot Air Marshal Anil Chopra ejected safely. The aircraft crashed near Bhind in MP.


Thanks God :) pilots are safe. But still whaat is going on. Its like taking turns: su 30-->jaguar-->mig 29-->mirage ?? :( :cry:


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 14:39 
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SagarAg wrote:


The two missing pilots have been found. Wing Commander Ram Kumar and co-pilot Air Marshal Anil Chopra ejected safely. The aircraft crashed near Bhind in MP.



Air MARSHAL???? :shock:


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 14:45 
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^^ Got it from rediff LIVE feeds. Can't comment on its authenticity. I myself was also shocked seeing it. :shock:
Here is the link:
http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2012/feb/24/liveupdates.htm?36
Check the feed at 14:01.

Here is a little info on him by Tarmak007:
http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2010/06/air-marshal-anil-chopra-is-saso-sac.html
and at BR database:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Database/13368


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 14:48 
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Hooo boy.... some heads are gonna ROLL!

Like this: :rotfl:


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 15:30 
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ASPuar wrote:
Hooo boy.... some heads are gonna ROLL!

Like this: :rotfl:



Will this ejection affect his medical category and there by career/promotions?


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 18:35 
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rajeshks wrote:
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Will this ejection affect his medical category and there by career/promotions?


Not at this advanced stage of his career - but thats a pretty senior rank to eject.. cant think of any earlier


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 19:34 
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ASPuar wrote:
Hooo boy.... some heads are gonna ROLL!

Like this: :rotfl:


Why? It's not funny is it?


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 20:07 
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It might be useful to know if the variety of aircrafts IAF operates has any implications on crash rates. perhaps there might be a concern for maintanaince infrastructure in the sense that valuable inputs following a crash investigation may not be effectively applied across different types of aircrafts.


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 02:25 
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One more story from Hindu

Mirage 2000 crash in MP


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 03:02 
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Good thing the pilots (and they are seniors too) are safe. Now this makes me wonder, and I've always sort of thought - the Mirage 2000 engines (M53-p2?) are getting rather old - are they also going to be upgraded in the upgrade deal? Can engines have such long lives or are new replacements being considered?


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 03:51 
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AM Chopra is going to be turning 60 soon. I do wonder why was he was flying a fighter...


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 04:37 
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Cain Marko wrote:
Good thing the pilots (and they are seniors too) are safe. Now this makes me wonder, and I've always sort of thought - the Mirage 2000 engines (M53-p2?) are getting rather old - are they also going to be upgraded in the upgrade deal? Can engines have such long lives or are new replacements being considered?

The current upgrade deal does not deal with the engines AFAIK. I was wondering about it too. The Mig-29s were bought around the same time and they are getting their engines replaced.


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 05:54 
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VikramS wrote:
AM Chopra is going to be turning 60 soon. I do wonder why was he was flying a fighter...

Vikram ji check the news feed by Ramana Saar:

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Being the commandant of the squadron, it is a tradition to fly a sortie when on a visit as a morale booster,” a senior IAF officer said.


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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012 07:57 
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ramana wrote:
One more story from Hindu

Mirage 2000 crash in MP


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IAF officials said that it was for the first time that a Mirage 2000 suffered engine failure since the induction of the aircraft


This is not true. One was lost during an exercise with Singaporean air-force. I think that was engine failure too.


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PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012 00:03 
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Read this

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They were picked up by a SAR helicopter shortly thereafter and transferred to the military hospital in Gwalior.


from

http://www.livefist.blogspot.com/2012/02/air-marshal-punches-out-of-doomed.html

There was so much R&Dh over why our SAR equipped aircraft are incapable of picking up wreckages in the Himalayas or YSR's helicopter. Well - here is one success & a crucial one at that (the pilots needed to be found fairly quickly in case they were injured).


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PostPosted: 28 Feb 2012 01:19 
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^^This SAR stands for "Search and Rescue" not "Synthetic Aperture Radar".


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 13:51 
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NDTV reporting crash of Mirage 2000 in Rajasthan ...

Link


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 13:53 
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Yes, parshuram ji. Shiv says fleet grounded on his livefist twitter feed.

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IAF grounds entire Mirage 2000 fighter fleet pending investigation into the two crashes on Feb 25 and today. Standard procedure.


Now, what are we left with - 49 mirages?


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 14:00 
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Praying for pilot


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 14:04 
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suryag wrote:
Praying for pilot

suryag ji,

The pilot(s) are reported to have ejected safely.

IAF Mirage Crashes, 2nd in 2 Weeks


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 14:04 
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suryag wrote:
Praying for pilot


Ejected safely.

Mirage 2000 crashes


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 14:07 
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IAF Mirage-2000 that crashed today was a trainer too. Engine flame-out at 16,000 feet. Both pilots eject safely.


livefist twitter feed.

Engine problem! :evil:


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 14:13 
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Hope the pilots are safe, even ejections are known to cause health problems.


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PostPosted: 05 Mar 2012 15:02 
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Any idea if the Mirage upgrade cost will come down given that now only 49 planes have to be upgraded instead of 51?


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