Bharat Rakshak

I was thinking about a question and scenario last night.

1. take a populous tourist friendly area like karol bagh and nai dilli railway stn area..where lakhs of travellers come and go every day incl 1000s of foreigners. nobody cares who you are so long as you can pay the tab.

2. a hit team of 50 mujahids come together from all over india by train and plane and gather at a couple of hotels in the area in small grounds of 2s and 3s. some are pak trained, some are ex-SSG come in via nepal->eastern UP, some are trained with camps in india itself like those periodically reported in the south. all are prepared to die.

3. next couple of days they lie low and meet the local handlers who will provide the transport on D-night. they visit the target area as tourists and lay citizens by city bus to familiarize themselves.

4. on D-night after a good meal and prayers, tourist Tempos come to take them away from the hotel for a pkged trip to Jaipur, ofcourse enroute they stop at a warehouse abutting the delhi ridge's northern section to pickup a consignment of heavy explosive charges and LAW weapons (RPGs mostly). they proceed around 10pm to target area which is the diplomatic area of chanyakapuri.

5. alighting from the vans in a timed synchonized manner at multiple points around the huge embassies of two important countries which lie close together, their LAW teams easily shred the Delhi police jeeps positioned around the area. the policemen have no defence against such heavy weapons. one jihadi wearing a backpack charge blasts the entrance door to one of the embassy, while one of the vans packed with heavier charges and driven by another jihadi rams and smashes the entrance to the other embassy.

6. dividing into teams of 24 each, they penetrate both embassies , take hostages, gun down people , start fires, lob grenades at neighbouring consulates, fire RPGs with incendiary charges in a ballistic arc to target those further away and one enterprising lad even climbs to the roof and fires a ATGM that scores a direct hit on a lutyens dilli bungalow after describing a 45' arc. the embassy security staff is overwhelmed and boxed into corners and separated...wherever they put up resistance the heavy charges and LAW weapons smash their positions. thick 4" BP glass doors are shattered by RPG rounds. ex-SSG command the teams and show their expertise in blasting past obstacles quickly...all skills well honed in joint exercises with SEAL teams.

7. in meantime, anticipating the nearest rush of police forces, jeep borne faithfuls explode two car bombs directly inside the premises of the two nearest police stations where the first phone calls led to a massing of police to form a convoy and reach the scene. another couple of jeeps go off in a show of force in CP and in chandni chowk...to divert police attention to possibility of more car bombs all over the place. 4 expendable faithfuls. someone from "lashkar" phones CNN that 15 more car bombs are placed all around delhi incl near places of worship.

in this situation the nearest NSG unit is 1 hr away at best in maneswar. there is no CT trained force in delhi cantt let us assume. delhi police ATS is clearly inadequate for the job. some SPG and NSG is there in lutyens delhi but to guard VIPs and the first report sends them into lockdown mode to guard current charges. the PM is flown by helicopter to safdarjung and evacuated to a secure location. so they cannot help. all roads in and out of chanyakapuri and lutyens delhi are closed by police, with a couple of army batallions providing backup and setting up checkposts.

so you think these foreign govts would give a full clearance for indian forces to enter and engage the terrorists on their sovereign territory (embassy premises) or demand that we just secure the outer perimeter while they fly in their own CT units (ETA best case could be 6 hrs from afghanistan, 9 hrs from germany) ? would they even co operate to pass on internal details of their embassies and put the GOI in touch with the remnants of their security detail fighting but trapped in pockets inside?

should the indian PMO overrule their objections and go in anyway in the interest of saving lives and curbing the atrocity?

what kind of strategy would you use and what kind of units and resources would you deploy? remember you are not dealing with a small B-team of serpents here, but 24 x 2, the elite, the best of class, the toppers of the batch specially handpicked for this mission to heavily embarass india and make it seem impotent...and those tempo TTs came stuffed to the gunwales with weapons...the consulates themselves have ample food and water to loot from.

It's not possible to arrange such an operation without intelligence agencies getting a whiff of it.

^Before 26/11 happened everyone were thinking the same way, that such an operation was not possible "without intelligence agencies getting a whiff of it".

^^And yet Mumbai 26/11 happened and Parliament attacks in Delhi happened. The type of operation described can happen but in Dilli its much tougher than say Mumbai or Bangalore since the amount of surveillance and HUMINT done to protect our netas backsides has increased exponentially ever since while the rest of the country can go to hell.

to make it more difficult for HUMINT to pickup traces let me introduce a slight amendment that the teams come together in the warehouse from 4 different places where they had come to delhi over the last couple of says
10 in kargol bagh via NDLS
10 in purani dilli via nizamuddin RS area
10 from meerut/ghaziabad side suburban area
5 were already renting in delhi as students near a leading univ & 5 pose as their family members came by bus from UP
10 arrive in delhi that evening from kanpur/lucknow side and do not stay anywhere, directly picked up in a tempo

none of them move in groups of >2 and make no cellphone calls. their pickup points and times are told in advance and they will passively get a SMS of harmless spam nature to alert them of any changes.

tempos are rented from a local tourist agency, their drivers are murdered once they reach the warehouse.

the warehouse is one of the 1000s of backyard industries in the region, dealing in metal scrap recycling and battery lead plate recovery...scruffy trucks and mechanics come and go all the time.

^^When I was referring to intelligence, I meant re. stashing of such heavy weapons such as RPGs and explosives without getting detected at all.

1000s of kg of dynamite and high power construction powder explosives are on the loose daily, due to lax monitoring and storage in the mining areas. journos testing this theory were able to procure gelatin sticks an hours ride out of mumbai after 26/11. the nepal border being quite porous and the gorakhpur-azamgarh belt being adjacent, I would imagine a good consignment could be brought in from nepal army/ex-maoist stock hidden under regular goods and stacked away for months in some grains warehouse without any incident.

all you need is a couple of trucks among the 50,000 that likely enter and transit via NCR daily.

and those checkgates at state borders are dens of corruption, you could likely smuggle in the Saturn-V if the road tax inspectors were paid off well.

Singha sir,

U really sent a shiver down my spine with your scenario ..as for the stashing part as mentioned by Raja Bose sir, its difficult but then if some one really plans its properly with patience and radical plans it just might be possible.. Hell, the way i see it, u seniors and BRF oldies should send these types of horrifying scenarios to our pandus/intalleegent services as a bolt of lighting in their pants just to get their noodles working overtime

I dont think this is gone a happen.@singha ji@scenario.
because this type of attack may insure that our napak neighbors cleansed properly and divided in to parts by forces of different country under leaderships of India.

more likely target is as I seen daily is university area.(student agitation is one hell of mess later)
new market area in N.d. like laxmi nagar or Tilak nager Rajauri garden Nehru place is most likely target to limited aggression. no most of this security is tartar because of multiple entery exits point and terrorist can get away in easily.

Singha sir,

u posted a possible scenario of explosive movement just before i pressed the submit button..Bang on target!!

U just might have a great (and horrifying) idea for a potential terrorist plot/ scenario...request you to keep working on it...

well if a parliament attack couldnt rouse india to fire a shot across the border, this is much easier - PMO will wash its hands off and leave it to the western powers, who will promptly pay TSP a couple billion $$ more to appease them.

The trouble is the bigger the team that's being inserted, the greater the chances are of a intelligence leak occurring. It takes just one slip (Indian intelligence agencies operate in Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka) and the bloodhounds will on the trail. The logistics for a platoon+ group are not insubstantial and there's no surefire way of determining whether your safehouse in Nepal isn't under surveillance or an individual in your local support staff hasn't been compromised.




That's a no brainer, the force employed will always be the NSG. If foreign force elements can get there in time, they may be allowed to serve in an advisory capacity but no question of them being participating in the assault.

As far as the legality goes, while the wishes of the country in question are generally taken into account while formulating strategy (negotiations vs force vs other), the operations, whether it was on the Japanese embassy in Lima, or the Iranian embassy in London, are carried out by domestic forces. ,

Sovereign territory doesn't make any difference - foreign CT forces are welcome to do their thing as long as they're inserted via ballistic missile i.e. no passage through Indian sovereign territory.



The forces, strategy and tactics employed will the remain the same. If the opposing force is highly trained, tough luck. Casualties are then unavoidable. Heavy armor, ballistic shields and overwhelming numbers advisable. Perhaps strike at night in blackout conditions - hopefully the opposition wouldn't be equipped with NVGs.

Two other options come to mind -

1. Wait them out (Op Black Thunder) and harass them with sniper fire. Might not feasible if hostages are present.
2. Try an unconventional approach like a gas attack. It didn't work during the Moscow theatre siege resulting in hostage deaths, but hopefully we have something up our sleeve. Also the attackers in later years were equipped with gas masks, but we may get lucky there.

Besides, I don't think the leadership (even the military) in Pakistan would be sanction stupidity of this magnitude. This time there'll be no fig leaf of 'non-state actors' to hide behind, and the last thing they need, given their current state of affairs, is the IA and IAF kicking down a undermanned eastern front and/or the Indian Navy imposing a blockade.

even local robbers have NVG, blackberry and gas masks these days . these guys will have the best eqpt money can buy.
about the ballistic shields, I have seen no pictorial evidence we use it...though I admit not having searched extensively for it.
about the naval and IA blockade, the pakis know nothing like that is going to happen...even setting fire to the US embassy here wont make khan lift its protective umbrella instead Khan SD and media will blast us and blame us for letting it happen and demand that we appease the terrorists by handing over cashmere or atleast some high level tihar jail type terrorists if american hostages are being held
they already have kandahar deal to beat us up with.
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there are many you can find on the web about illegal explosives. here is one.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ex ... sh_1599540

a huge cache of explosives including 5,000 detonators and 10 boxes of gelatine sticks was Sunday seized by the police from a house in Rewa.

I had thought of somewhat similar attack when I was writing my scenario. But scaled it down to an old fashioned bombing. :-<
Sure, such an attack is not impossible, but flawless execution by foreign terrorists inside Indian capital is really difficult. You need to have a lot of local support and that's a major weak weakness. Intelligence agencies, police etc aren't that inefficient after all. It is easy to hide and transport guns, but not heavy weapons like RPGs, LAW on such a scale. Sure, you can procure and use commercial explosives, but even that is another weakness in plan. How're you going to use them, except car bombing, gate crashing etc ?

Mumbai attack was completely different, as the terrorists came by the sea with all their weapons and needed minimum local support. Attack on Parliament was similar but number of terrorists was quite low. A better template for an attack was explained by Mukul Deva in his book, Lashkar. But that too was limited to bombings, not such targeted attacks.
As far as Indian retaliation is concerned, Kasab and Afzal Guru are still our state guests. Says a lot about Indian determination and will to respond.

my 1st moves as a commander would be:

1. impose a TV news blackout on the topic - chase away and lock up the TV news vans and keep all their editors and owners in a govt guest house as a guarantee of good behaviour for the duration. verbal assurances cannot be trusted, these people need to be in a guest house.

2. bring in some combat bulldozers or tanks from the cantonment and using the dozers and demolitions teams , break open the consulate walls at multiple places along perimeter before backing away...this will permit both a certain number of trapped people to escape and increase the headache of the terrorists in having to seal off multiple entry points...splitting them into 2s and 3s.

3. launch intensive surveillance from UAVs and neighouring buildings of the place to gauge force strength and placement. if Khan really has things that can see through walls from a UAV, it would be time to get that Global hawk to orbit over delhi. bring in NTRO vans to sniff for any cellphone or satellite calls. if its deemed necessary activite a army mobile jamming unit to block satphones and deactivate all cellphone towers in range to cut them off.

4. evacuate all other consulates and shut down electric grid and generators to leave only the attacked consulates as islands of light until their backup
generators run.

5. if any jihadis are spotted on rooftops doing the observer thing, take them out using denel NTW rifles. make the roofs a no-go area.

6. prepare for a helicopter borne attack as the main prong, while diversionary attacks behind IFVs and MPVs on each breach in the wall keep a number of attackers engaged. get the detailed maps of consulates asap from concerned govts. reject their offers of help and sending CT teams.

7. launch the attack without delay in negotiations, first a couple of WSI Dhruvs would nose in and clear the roof, if the snipers missed anything, next 1 Mi17V each would come to the roof and deploy 2 ropes each, permitting 1 platoon of NSG to be deposited on the roof in a few mins. in parallel diversionary attacks and snipers would make a strong push to threaten a breakin if the attackers focus on the roof. this is a very dicey step as a single RPG could crash the Mi17....sniper teams would need to be very carefully sited and their would inevitable be blind spots not viewable from outside, like behind interior walls and interior gardens .... for this I propose that the Dhruvs or fast passing Mi17v drop a massive cluster of smoke+mace bombs onto the grounds to blind and slow down anyone lurking in the woodwork.

8. work from the roof down, using explosives to blast open any doors and sending back rescued hostages to the roof. at some point the terrorists defending the breaches will be taken out from the rear or they will have turn 180' and let ingress teams slip into the gardens

9. screw the human (terrorist only) rights lobby and presenting 'proof' of paki involvement, kill every terrorist you come across. or beat the living crap out of them on the spot to make them reveal any booby traps.

even if the Mi17v dont get hit and full rescue platoons make it the roofs with all intact, my prediction is quite a bloody operation on the part of hostages and rescue team in the best case.

** I was thinking of using the wooden gliders that landed on the roof of eben emael but such is not possible because
1. we dont have such troop carrying gliders
2. need meticulous practice
3. there is no convenient flat huge roof to land on
it would permit a more stealthy approach than the noisy Mi17V that has to hover for a few mins to unload the platoon

** HALO jump from IL76 I dont think we can have 40 people neatly land on the roof at almost the same time without chutes getting tangled up and people getting killed..I dont think even 5 people could manage that esp at night.

** there aint no sewers to use and any would be blocked by consulates for security

what we likely need is a few special Mi17V with a "boat shaped attachment" below the hull that guards the lower half of fuselage from HMG/RPG blasts from below and the side. the boat would have 2 holes for the people roping down to slip through. even if not usually attached the Mi17 used by NSG have to get the brackets and bolts in place to attach on short notice. would detonate the RPG at some distance below the heli...using concept of spaced armour

You don't always need to physically attack to force the point. A troop buildup and a near blockade in 1999 for example was enough to nearly crash the Karachi stock exchange. Just tough talk without any visible military action from India after the Mumbai attacks was enough to rattle Pres. Zardari into having a comical conversation on an unsecure line with an individual pretending to be Pranab Mukherjee. Outgoing shipping from Karachi can be disrupted with prolonged 'anti-terrorist' VBSS operations without crossing into a declaration of war. The Pakistani Army can be forced to redeploy vitally needed forces from their western front. The PAF will forced to consume expensive spares maintaining wartime readiness. Insurance rates and investments, while already low, will take a massive new hit.

Also, water in dams flowing towards Pakistan, can be held or released in quantities small enough not to do any real damage but enough to make a point. In subsequent years Pakistani govt. will probably come under pressure to raise the defence budget - expenditure that it can afford a lot less than India.

Trouble with actually giving the green light for a military strike as opposed to upping the threat is that defining clear objectives for the military are near impossible. In every war we've fought so far the military has had its job cut out - drive out intruders from J&K, counter Op Gib & Op GS, liberate EP. In the current scenario you're likely to have escalating tit-for-tat strikes with no defined limitations, that can simply spiral out of control.

Typically rooftops are always sanitized using snipers. This was done during Nariman House operation too.

The most important thing is to keep barking mutt type of reporters away and have a total media blackout - breaking news be damned . During 26/11, the Oberoi/Trident op NSG commander kept the media away hence we didn't see anything stupid happen there unlike the Taj/Nariman House. In case of Nariman House, I put the blame for the death of NSG's Gajender Singh squarely on the media who idiotically showed live footage of the NSG landing on the roof. Even while watching it live I could not help but wonder what happens if the terrorists are also watching it on TV. As a result of such imbeciles in our media, the terrorists were vectored by their Paki controllers onto the NSG guys coming down and managed to hurl a grenade at them killing the 1st commando.

Trouble with using heavy military action (IFVs and bulldozers as opposed to fast and loud/silent CT teams) arises if hostages are present. The success of a CT operations is generally measured by the number of casualties among hostages and overt action in this case may lead to avoidable deaths.

it is become fantasy part of thread. cool down guys start a new thread regarding terrorist attack and tactics

Also the terrorists would as usual declare that if they see any police presence they will start executing the hostages.What will we do then ?
Also if the terrorists are trained to keep only a no. of hostages alive and execute the rest without letting us know, what will we do ?

looking at the peruvian hostage rescue op, just look at the human rights legal aftermath of the issue!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_e ... de_Huantar

Those are a different kind of terrorist. The ones with demands. Terrorist involved in an attack like what Singha garu has outlined would basically be a fidayeen squad just like the 26/11 attackers. They will have no demands and their purpose would be to cause maximum damage and loss of life. You do not have any options in this case. You have to take them out as fast as possible for even a few of the hostage to have any hope of survival.

Singha: I think your scenario needs some more mayhem. You have 50 well armed people on a suicide mission and all the mayhem so far is in two sore embassies. I think, they can do a lot more. They will have time on their side. By the time the NSG get there and pin them down, they should get out of the embassies and get to their next target. I would split the teams again into smaller groups of 10 or 5 and head in different directions.

Added: What if we assume, there is transport available and the new targets are softer ones like hotels in the area. Remember, the Parliament was attacked by only 4 people, if I remember correctly.

Cordon off the areas. Wait for everyone to be killed. Wait for the terrorists to starve and run out of ammo (10 days). Then take them out as they try to make a break for it or lie weak, dehydrared and senseless.

If you want to reduce the number of deaths. Cordon off. Send in spl forces and do a Mumbai like op. Some forces people will die of course.

The idea you have come up with is so attractive that one must wonder why it does not happen frequently in Indian cities? For that let me take a short break to thank our internal security people who are keeping me more or less safe. Thank you folks.

Now back imagining that the "noodles" of Indians need stimulation.

^Shaurya, well if they dont want to take diplomatic hostages to put pressure on india via foreign govts on some demands, they could indeed use a set of 4 wheelers and even bikes to roam all over south and west delhi shooting and bombing the place like a bunch of drunk cowboys. the net impact would be less though - the GOI has never really cared about commoner casualties...some will get away, police will bag some of them, next morning the water tankers will wash the stains off. the police ofcourse cannot track and chase down 10 independent teams...individual policemen will make their own decisions and manage as best as they can.

a while back there was a paschim vihar biker gang consisting of around 40 spolit brat youths who'd come out at night in places like CP, do stunts, abuse people, play games with police....one night the police had to deploy around 30 jeeps to trap and contain them inside CP before arresting all of them. all were kids of 'status families'. and this is the headache to contain one unarmed gang in a fast moving city like dilli with good roads.

That would make things laughingly simple for GoI. They need not take any action other than preventing foreign forces from landing on the sovereign territory of India. Let the diplomats die. What goes of their father?




They need not care about foreign diplomatic casualties either. Why bother if the foreign governments are being stupid? I mean why should the GoI beg and beg and say "Please let us send our men to go and get killed on "your sovereign territory"? We will defend "our sovereign territory". Your armed forces are not allowed to land and operate in our country.

SinghAji

Why are you giving deadly ideas to our sworn enemies?

Generate a local EMP pulse which takes out all electronics in the area. A division of Indian spec-ops should revert to vacuum tube based communications.

Selectively have a large dose of anthrax pumped into the piping of the two embassies in question. The Soviet Union had a strain which was gender specific, which could be used in this case.

Have specialized sanitation and emergency crews on stand-by 24/7. IOW, India will have to break its obligation to the BWC under duress.

>> Why are you giving deadly ideas to our sworn enemies?

I am sure they are more industrious than having to trawl brf for ideas on how to be terrorists . and I would be most surprised if delhi police and NSG have NOT gamed this kind of large scale assault on the diplomatic quarter / lutyens delhi zone and how to respond properly. its their main job anyways in the NCR. even if they had not, after 26/11 they would have.

the idea of selectively using incapacitating gases is interesting but remember the high profile consulates would have some form of air sealing / isolation to guard against jihadis trying this theory themselves! this will prevent or atleast degrade any efforts by our police to use the same means.

remember the personal jetpack type thing in 1984 olympic opening ceremony?. given the near impossibility of paradrops onto uneven roofs and gardens swept by enemy fire and the RPG threat to any Mi17 attempting to hover for a rope assault, either a directional jetpack or a stubby winged thing people play around with might present some hope of getting a section of commandoes onto the rooftop in good order. there exist plane and rotary type models
transformer3 had a squad doing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmX39xcA ... re=related

i saw a dream the other day...jihadis had for some reason taken over my old PU college. it had flat roofs. GOI cuts the power and a 4 man team parachutes onto the roof at night from a high drop and kills the intruders using silenced pistols.

^^^ Singha ji, I meant anthrax in the water piping systems (including the fire hydrant system), a specific one which would infect the males only. Even if the faithfool decide to boil water for drinking purposes it would be futile. Declare a zone 1 km outside the cordon as a bio-hazard area.

It is another thing that we will have to completely strip down the plumbing of the vicinity after the incident with extensive and expensive sanitation project in place asap.

I was thinking on the lines of launching a NSG shock and awe attack through the Delhi Metro feeder/service systems near Chandni Chowk. The service would be made inoperative for the time-being.

Perhaps the best alternative is wasp-sized UAV's flying/loitering and ambushing every nook and corner and shooting poison darts onto the jugular veins of the jihadis. There was a program on darts inducing cardiac arrest and leaving inconspicuous acne like marks on the skin.

shankaraa - each component of this scenario has already been done by our little green bearded friends. if you read about the fertile imagination of these folks, things like this have been thought about in various permutation/combinations for some time

singha - i fear that in this scenario it will be near impossible to rescue hostages alive. just about the only thing preventing this type of thing taking off is the overall implications for the sponsor at a political and diplomatic level. tactically - it is quite do-able

Singha ji , I would like to increase the complexity of your scenario.Assume that these attackers are wearing Delhi Police uniforms(or that of some other security Force such as CRPF).If ever such an attack takes place and Ex SSG personnel are involved , we should expect this.

indeed. even black cat uniforms are nothing special. must be sold by the 100s in the bylane tailor shops. wearning NSG uniform and conveniently using MP-3/MP-5 (paki OFB makes them and could easily run a special lot stamped with fake serial nos and makers id for plausible deniability) would get them even easier run of the place.

dont forget the deccan mujahideen id cards

could be RSS id cards too

or mix it up
car bomb into some embassy's
jehadi commando assault on others
hang glider soosai bummer on some
masquerading guards/kitchen workers with bums/guns in others
all going off at the same time!

That's exactly why the last mass assault (26/11) was from sea:

1. Ability to carry arms with you thru the operation (simplifies complexities from drop offs and pick ups)

2. Simpler to travel in a large group instead of splitting up and RV'ing at same time and place

3. Lesser chance of being caught by 'men on the ground' during travel

4. No border crossing

Though one must add that 13-Dec parliament attack is close to Rudra's scenario.

Thought of some fantasy desi equivalents of JSOC:

Army Commander, Northern Command
- 1st Joint Special Forces Division
-- 1 x Para (SF) Bn
-- 1 x MARCOS Team (Wullar)
-- 31 RR (Para)
-- 22 SF
-- 2 x Garud Force flights
-- 155 Helicopter Unit (Mi-17V5)
-- 202 Army Aviation Squadron (HAL Rudra)
-- B Flight, 25 Sqn AF (An-32)
-- 3005 Sqn AF (Searcher Mk2)

Chairman, Chief of Staff Committee
- Joint Special Forces Command (Rapid Reaction)
-- 50th Para Bde (I)
--- 1 x Para Bn
--- 1 x Para (SF) Bn
--- 1 x Para Field Regiment (Artillery)
-- 91st Infantry Brigade
-- 77 Sqn IAF (C-130)
-- 1 x An-32
-- 111 HU (ALH Dhruv)
-- 114 HU (Mi-17V5)
-- 2 x MARCOS teams
-- 2 x Garud Force flights
-- INS Jalashwa
-- A Flight, 25 Sqn IAF (IL-76)
-- INAS 342 (Heron)

I have a question - the first units to encounter any terrorist squads are likely the local armed police at places like checkposts or the local ATS called in to help out in a situation where the terrorist den is known on a tip off. afaik all over india they are armed with a mix of AK56 / INSAS / FN-FAL / pistols / revolvers depending on state govt , have weak BPJ (note the paper thing mumbai police ones in 26/11 and lack in CQB army style training for a sustained gunfight as opposed to a quick grab )

then I read of the BSF planning to import beretta carbines. imo the cops also need a semi automatic 9mm carbine of compact dimensions and 20-30 rd mag with proper training. velocity enough to pierce cars but not enough to fly 400m and kill someone else if it misses. and they need intensive training because in real life the first couple of bursts and who lands it usually might determine the winner. they need CT unit type training using fake houses and town streets.

the UK armed police seem to use H&K weapons. H&K is also a option if Beretta or Colt wont work. INSAS carbine is also a cheaper option.

running around with a giant FN-FAL in a urban battle as mumbai police were forced to do is sad.

X-post :

Lots of amazing footage of the MARCOs and its training.

Marcos East in the vid = Vizag unit?