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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012 13:24 
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Have you ever been on the other side of a riot?? The time it takes from a peaceful one to a violent one is very short.
What is the response time of the strength of police required?

What was the strength of CISF at the location? What was the mob size? CISF usually doesnt have a good intelligence wing, it is the local police duty to anticipate them.

Well, as it has already been pointed out, the CISF version of events is still not known. However, with Kashmiri sensitivities being what they are, the local police ought to have been involved from the start! For the protest to have been carried out they would need police permission. Doing so without informing the police is a crime and the police can be called for that alone and the protest broken up! Further, if the local police had given them permission, they would have been aware and anything that happens could be blamed on them for not taking care of security after being aware of the issue instead of the CISF – keeping Delhi clear of any blame.
The main problem is that the Kashmiris (especially the local rabble-rousers and Paki agents) see this as Indians killing Kashmiris, as CISF is a central police force and not a local force. If the J&K police were to inxtall a heavy machine gun at the gate and pump lead into the protestors it would only be a “law and order” problem, now it’s turned into some sort of rallying cry and political circus against “Indians”.


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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012 13:35 
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Unfortunately, Indian paramilitary and military soldiers are only taught how to shoot people. Policing is more than shooting.

The CISF should have called the police immediately and ONLY if the protestors were going to break into the power plant should the CISF have resorted to firing. Unfortunately, this incident - according to media reports, shows that live fire was not warranted.

Brando,

You are not getting off so easy, explain especially the bolded part and the next sentence.
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the CISF version of events is still not known.

So knowing explicitly that you do not have CISF side of story, you have called ALL the Indian paramilitary units- BSF,CRPF, CISF, RPF, RAF and the Indian army as knowing only to shoot people.


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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012 16:51 
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CISF is not covered by ASFPA and firing without Magistrate or area jurisdiction (i.e. within the campus) is not allowed and amounts to murder. Hence they would be in deep trouble.

How about rights of self defence? I know this would be a tough thing to prove. And the media any way is with the freeboarding experts i.e the Kashmiris. But is a man in uniform such a sad case that any body has the rights to kill him (while he is not allowed to use at least the same amount of force back)?

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The entire country faces sever power shortages, this kind of behavior from the Kashmiris is ridiculous and they should be castigated in the media as being greedy and childish for making unreasonable demands.

In the present situation I dont think this would work out. Or media like Facebook or other popular sites should be used to clearly show the picture of a riot-mongering Kashmiri. That is they are a group of people who are eating away tax payer's money are champions in freeloading and have a feeling that the rest of the country should feed them for ever.


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PostPosted: 04 Jan 2012 20:14 
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^^ you said yourself. For men in uniform with loaded weapons and training etc this would be the last justification unless Crowd fired , arson , property damage inside or one of them got seriously injured or died. Remember ASPuar's comment in another thread. Tough call.


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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012 01:16 
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The distorted truth. Malicious report of a so-called Kashmiri Human Rights group

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This is not the first time such propaganda has been unleashed by “human rights groups” in Kashmir. Such propaganda has been unleashed incessantly over the last two decades to provide canon-fodder to the separatists and their sympathizers in their anti-India tirade. Of course, many foreign journalists (including those based in India) fall easy prey to such propaganda.


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A friend provided this blogger a list of incidents from April to July in 2011 which have been overlooked by the report. (If anyone has a list for the complete year of 2011, he or she may leave the list/ link in the comments section.)

April 9: Militants shot dead 42 year old Abdul Rehman at Badergund, Ganderbal.
April 10: Militants kills 20 year old youth Sajad Ahmad dar at Sopore.
April 16: 46 year-old Hasina Begum shot dead for participating in elections. (Many liberals often lament the so called absence of democracy in Kashmir. This is what happens to those who support democracy)
April 25: Militants kills 30 yr-old Mohammad Ashraf Dar at Rafiabad, Baramulah.
April 28: Bus driver who was attacked by stone pelters, succumbs; accused arrested. (Another manifestation of how separatists allow democracy to thrive in Kashmir. His only mistake was he ferried those employees who were on polling duties during Panchayat elections)
April 30: Militants kill 20 yr-old Shamsudin Mir at Sopore.
May 2: IED planted by militants kills a street vendor at Udhampur.
May 10: Election candidate shot at by militants at Sopore. ( Another one for “Democracy”)
May 17: Sarpanch shot dead by militants at Sopore.
May 20: Lashkar terrorists behead pro-Democratic worker Abdul Gani Rather in Kishtawar district.
May 28: A father and son duo, Ghulam Hassan Mir and Manzoor Ahmad, killed by militants at Bowan, Handwara.
June 6: Militant shoots dead a man, Afzal Khan of Sopore, near Lal Chowk area of Srinagar.
June 7: Militants shot dead a cop, Manzoor Ahmad at Sopore.
June 15: Manzoor Ahmed Dar shot dead by militants at Shopian.
June 27: Militants shot dead Muhammad Yaqoob, 50, at Najwan.
July 25: Militants shot dead Mohsin Ahmed Wani, 35, son of Manzoor Ahmed of Jalalabad, Sopore.
July 28: Militants kill a man, Mohammad Ashraf Sheikh in Sopore, Kashmir

These, and there are many more unfortunate Kashmiris, for whom no petitions will be signed nor will any protests be staged. Their names will not be found on any list released by a Human Rights group. No celebrated ‘Kashmiri’ writers sitting in foreign lands and writing about conflict in Kashmir will highlight this aspect. No candle-light protests will be organised to lament their death.


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The reason is simple. The Kashmir conflict has created a whole industry, both inside and outside Kashmir, whose livelihood and importance is dependent on keeping the conflict and its memories alive. They are supported in their cause by many ISI-backed NGOs posing as Human Rights groups in Kashmir. Ghulam Nabi Fai was just one of the more direct and blatant ISI agents. But there are many others who do it surreptitiously and indirectly. Then there are some others who do it without even realising that they are being stringed along by anti-India forces.


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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012 01:22 
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There is an intense cold wave sweeping Kashmir now. Lots of suffering.


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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012 08:28 
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Old snake Gillani ki purani Mrammat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MalRDG2b ... re=related
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PostPosted: 14 Jan 2012 02:06 
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Sanjay Kak is in news again with his book "Until My Freedom Has Come: The New Intifada in Kashmir."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ethan-cas ... ?ref=india

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I happen to have just this week submitted to the "Books & Authors" section of the Pakistani newspaper Dawn my long-overdue review of a powerful book, a collection of writings from Indian periodicals and websites compiled and edited by Sanjay Kak, titled Until My Freedom Has Come: The New Intifada in Kashmir. Congratulations to Penguin India for publishing such a book. In one piece, "Kashmir's Abu Ghraib?", contributor Shuddhabrata Sengupta describes an appalling YouTube video tagged "brothers watch, sisters please do not watch" and popularly known as the "Kashmir Naked Parade Video," apparently shot by an offending Indian soldier himself with a cell phone. There's no need for me to describe the video; you get the picture. "At least in the pitched street battles, we see adversaries, albeit unequal adversaries, policemen, paramilitaries, soldiers one side, and the angry tide of stone-pelters on the other," writes Sengupta.

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Here, there are no adversaries. Prisoners are not in a position to be adversarial when surrounded by heavily armed men in uniform. What we see instead are unarmed captives, people who are in no position to threaten or endanger the security forces. That such people should be made to undergo a humiliation such as this is proof of the extent to which the forces of the Indian state in Kashmir have become brutalized by the experience of serving in Kashmir.


Ultimately it's not - and shouldn't be seen as - being about what Americans or Indians do to Muslims, but what any of us are willing to do, and be seen doing, to each other, and - framed more constructively - what we might still do to reclaim our humanity. I have some thoughts on that, which will need to wait for another time (soon). For now, here are some of the extremely hard questions that Sengupta raises:

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While the making of atrocity images such as these have for long been a part of the apparatus of violence, the ubiquity of mobile phones as recording devices, and of internet-based social networking sites as vectors of circulation has taken the phenomenon to a new level. We have no clear understanding of what motivates the making of these images. Are they meant as evidence of a "job well done" - to be shown to superiors who actually sanction torture and humiliation but have no way of assessing their effectiveness or actual operation because of the legal difficulty involved in maintaining official records of "unofficial" secrets? Or, are they simply testosterone-fuelled perversities, operating in the same sphere as MMS messages of ***** sadism?


Sengupta also asserts that
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There is need for further research on questions such as whether or not the makers of these atrocity images are also consciously seeking each other out, both as audiences and as competitors, in a new economy of prestige linked to the capacity to represent and circulate one's own cruelty. In other words, are the makers of the videos in Kashmir, or in the Jaffna peninsula, aware of, and in some senses seeking to out-do the actions of their peers and predecessors in Abu Ghraib? Also, is there an informal network of know-how, pertaining to techniques for torture and humiliation that lubricates the virtual matrix inhabited by the protagonists of the so-called "global war on terror", that operates in much the same way as the networks that bring together paedophiles and sex offenders on online platforms in the darker parts of the internet? Finally, how and why do these videos leak out of these networks into the wider public domain? Are there weak, conscience-stricken, anonymous whistle-blowing links at the fringes of even the darkest recesses of power (as is evident from the centre of the WikiLeaks storm) that cannot bear the burden of carrying power's dirtiest secrets?


But here's something for Muslims to reflect on: a video of Pakistani soldiers killing captives in the Swat valley was briefly circulated on Facebook as one of Indians killing Kashmiris. Sengupta points out, all too rightly:

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The irony of a Pakistani atrocity being briefly misattributed as an Indian one only underscores the fact that when it comes to the everyday operationalization of state terror, the security apparatuses of India and Pakistan aspire to the same low standards, which make it quite possible for those seeking to score a few cheap propaganda points on either side to - deliberately or otherwise - confuse one perpetrator for another.


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PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 21:45 
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12. How to move forward? Two realities have to be kept in mind. Firstly, it is too late in the day to think of identifying and punishing those who were responsible for the ethnic-cleansing. Any ill-advised attempt to do so would complicate the situation further.

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers ... r4868.html

Wonder if B. Raman would say the same thing if Muslims were ethnic cleansed and made to live in refugee camps for 23 years, somehow I doubt it.

After all he still harps about Babri and Gujarat.


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PostPosted: 20 Jan 2012 22:03 
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Wow, just wow...the "seculars" of our country seem to put even chameleons to shame
Even the current Jaipur fest controversy over Rushdie is a clear example of how the same "intellectuals" keep quiet like sheep and preach "forget it. minor issue" because the matter involves a "minority community"


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 02:08 
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Absolutely amazing talk on Kashmiri Pandits on NDTV. I am actually surprised NDTV aired it. Must watch!!!

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/hum-lo ... ory/221781


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 17:25 
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Even the current Jaipur fest controversy over Rushdie is a clear example of how the same "intellectuals" keep quiet like sheep and preach "forget it. minor issue" because the matter involves a "minority community"

Not to be sounding pessimistic or rude. Off late I have started getting a feeling that most of the groups of people (other than people who have proven themselves as a "fighting community") just does not have the guts to take on the 'minority community'. They are $hit scared. I regularly taunt the marxist intellectual bafoons who we have aplenty in Kerala. Their apologetic responses also are pretty much proving my point. They are royally scared, and their fear is kind of polished and shown as "minority love, brotherly love, secular values" etc.

PS: I am talking about that part of society, who flaunts their expertise in education, business, giving religious sermons etc.


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 20:32 
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i liked the guy who spoke from a remote location...

" that a reconciliation is not possible in kashmir until the myth that Kashmiri pandits left on their own accord or their exodus was part of conspiracy hatched by Shri Jagmohan and Govt of India is propogated by mullahs !"

but the thing of note it was aired on the hindi edition of NDTV..maybe our JNU wallahs, educated liberals, secularists would have had a cardiac arrest seeing it on english NDTV.


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 20:48 
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" that a reconciliation is not possible in kashmir until the myth that Kashmiri pandits left on their own accord or their exodus was part of conspiracy hatched by Shri Jagmohan and Govt of India is propogated by mullahs !"


Being one of the persons who had to leave Kashmir at that time I puke a little bit inside whenever I hear talk of "Kashmiri pandits left as a part of a conspiracy by Jagmohan blah blah blah"

Was it Jagmohan who called from each and every mosque in Kashmir telling the Hindus to go away or face the consequences ?


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 20:57 
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Conversions in Kashmir: But where are the liberals now?


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PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012 22:49 
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Well to be honest GOI is as much to blame for this mess as the mullahs and the perpetrators themselves , as far as I am concerned they are complicit in this crime as much as JKLF & co.


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2012 01:02 
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Army and IAF are working their asses off maintaining vital supply lines to the valley currently cut off by snow. Expect the resident wannabe Bakis there to forget everything by next month and scream jihad, azadi as soon as it is warm enough to go outside.
If I had my way, I'd have let the ba$$turds starve to death.


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2012 02:51 
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Absolutely amazing talk on Kashmiri Pandits on NDTV. I am actually surprised NDTV aired it. Must watch!!!

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/hum-lo ... ory/221781


WOW...An eyeopener!


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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2012 07:20 
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12. How to move forward? Two realities have to be kept in mind. Firstly, it is too late in the day to think of identifying and punishing those who were responsible for the ethnic-cleansing. Any ill-advised attempt to do so would complicate the situation further.

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers ... r4868.html

Wonder if B. Raman would say the same thing if Muslims were ethnic cleansed and made to live in refugee camps for 23 years, somehow I doubt it.

After all he still harps about Babri and Gujarat.


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J&K state flag burnt in Jammu by activists affiliated to Bhagat Singh Kranti Sena

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PostPosted: 25 Jan 2012 21:32 
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IAF airlifts 136 stranded people from snow-hit Kishtwar
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/iaf- ... 70526.html


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PostPosted: 27 Jan 2012 23:12 
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Didnt know where else to post it. An amazing poem on Kashmir from Dr. Hari Om Panwar-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iv-RVTl_yI&sns=fb

Trust me, it will have your blood boiling. An absolute watch.


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PostPosted: 30 Jan 2012 12:29 
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Did not come across this on the forum earlier Apologies if already posted

Someone maintains a blog titled,"Indian Army & the people of J&K"

http://armyinjk.blogspot.com/

a fine effort.


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PostPosted: 12 Feb 2012 10:05 
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there has been a seminar in Srinagar , conducted by the Institute of Research on India and International Studies on "Media impact on the Kashmiri Youth”,
the organisers seem to be in continuation of the previous excerise using "interlocutors". it seems that considerable sums of public money are being expended to jsutify someone's viewpoint
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The findings of the research regarding the notion of “azadi” among the “inward looking generation” of local youth and their “growing” interest towards Islam topped the debate that was held here during a function chaired by Governor N N Vohra.

Bashir Manzar, Editor, Kashmir Images, said the inclination of the Kashmiri youth towards Islam was not a new phenomenon, as the population of the Valley was predominantly Muslim. However, he said, the younger generation was more vocal in making statements over their religious beliefs.

Riyaz Masroor, a BBC correspondent, blamed the state for infusing religiosity and “sponsoring religious thoughts” on the people here, maintaining that the Valley had traditionally followed “Sufi Islam”.

Objecting to the use of word “Muslim” in the research findings, Masroor said the word “religion” should have been used instead.

“Inclination towards religion is a national phenomenon, not confined to Kashmir, and is a cause for concern for secularists,” he added.



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75 pc Kashmiri youth prefer peaceful protests over gun: Survey

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Bashir Manzar, Editor, Kashmir Images, Prof Neera Chandhoke from Delhi University, NN Vohra, Governor, Navnita Chadha Behera, honorary director, IRIIS, and Riyaz Masroor, BBC correspondent, were in a panel discussion organised by the Institute of Research on India and International Studies in Srinagar on Saturday.

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Seventy-five per cent Kashmiri youths are not in favour of the gun culture and feel peaceful protest is the most effective way of achieving political aspirations, claims a perception survey by the Institute for Research on Indian and International Studies.

The survey, “Media Impact on the Kashmiri Youth”, was released at a one-day seminar chaired by Governor NN Vohra here today amidst a galaxy of journalists, intellectuals, students and members of the civil society.

The survey, having a sample of youth aged between 15 and 35 from six districts - Anantnag, Budgam, Bandipora, Baramulla, Kulgam and Srinagar - reveals lack of governance as the main concern.

As many as 33 per cent of around 1,500 youths have ranked corruption as the most important issue facing Kashmir at this juncture.

The second major concern is the violation of human rights, with 15 per cent of the respondents listing it in the survey.

In what may bring cheer to the Kashmiri Pandits, who were forced to leave the Valley in the early 1990s, as many as 67 per cent of the respondents believe the Pandits “should” return to the Valley. Though, only 18 per cent of them have revealed that they have publicly supported their return by either taking part in a public rally, posting online, via a political party or Hurriyat. The report presented by Navnita Chadha Behera, honorary director, IRIIS, specifically mentions that among the 29 per cent respondents opposing the return of the Kashmiri Pandits, over 41 per cent are under 19 years of age, which meant they were born after the exodus of the KPs from the Valley and had little exposure to the secular traditions of Kashmir.

The survey further states that the current generation is different from the predecessors, as the present lot is more inward looking. They have fixed their political gaze on developments within Jammu and Kashmir. Nearly 70 to 90 per cent youths like to watch or read news about Kashmir than anything else.

Their interest in happenings in neighbouring Pakistan is also waning. The perception about Pakistan of being a friend, philosopher and guide has diminished in the minds of today’s youth, as only 16 per cent listen to news about Pakistan. Only in Bandipora, the figure is high at 42 per cent.

The youth do not have an encouraging connect with India either. Not more than 26 per cent follow news on India from different sources.

A significant 54 per cent youth list “azadi” as the final political status of Kashmir. But their notions of “azadi” vary. Nearly 20 per cent say it means political rights, while 14 per cent say it is civic rights. For just 11 per cent, “azadi” means freedom from India, while a whopping 30 per cent say it implies partition of Kashmir.

Further, 10 per cent say it is about withdrawal of Army and eight per cent see it as sovereign Kashmir, including the PoK. For just 1 per cent, it means merger with Pakistan.

Also, television and radio are the most popular source of news and entertainment for the Kashmiri youth, the report adds. The state-run DD News/DD Kashir, All-India Radio and Radio Kashmir are watched by 74 per cent of the youth.

Local channels, many of which have been banned from telecasting news, are viewed by 49 per cent, while 43 per cent view western channels and 41 per cent watch Indian private channels.

Nearly 60 per cent Kashmiri youths read both English and Urdu local dailies, while only 17 per cent opt for national dailies.

The survey says Internet, especially Facebook, is fast gaining popularity, with as many 101 Facebook pages on Kashmir coming up in recent times.



there is a slew of three articles on the seminar in the Tribune, chandigarh
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120212/j&k.htm#3


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 09:20 
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Twenty soldiers were feared killed when two avalanches hit army posts in Sonmarg and Gurerz in Jammu and Kashmir [ Images ] early on Thursday morning.

According to media reports, six bodies have been recovered so far.

Rescue operations have been hit by bad weather.

Further details are awaited.

Goddammit!!!! :| :( :(


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wonder whether the avalanche backpacks would be use here??


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wonder whether the avalanche backpacks would be use here??

newbie question: how would they help?


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Geelani aide, others to be tried in hawala racket
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Del ... 909820.ece


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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012 18:13 
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Geelani aide, others to be tried in hawala racket
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Del ... 909820.ece



Finally. That's the way to do it. FYI, we used "tax evasion" as a crime to get Al Capone. I hope GoI ropes in others in the hurriet as well. Most of these scums live in palaces without paying any taxes. Investigate that option.


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PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012 09:27 
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Salute to the soldiers who defend the frontier in such adverse weather ...

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/avala ... k/916051/2
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“Rescue operations are being hindered by heavy snow and bad weather. The other three jawans were at a sentry post which is under 18 feet of snow. A specialised team from High Altitude Warfare School has reached the spot.”


Condolence to families of jawans who laid down their lives:
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Dawar Gurez: Subedar Desh Raj, Naib Subedar R S Poonia, Naib Subedar S N Yadav, Naib Subedar U B Hirve, Havaldar Om Prakash Baitha, Sepoy Vinay Kumar Bharati, Craftsman Ankit Kumar, Craftsman S Muni Samy, Sepoy Dinesh Kumar, Sepoy Sagar Biswas, Sepoy Probir Sarkar, Craftsman Shyju J P and Craftsman Nawle Manoj

Sonmarg: Naib Subedar (JCO) Mahadev Gain, Sepoy Puvaneswaran M and Rifleman Amit Sharma


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the avalanche backpack works on the principle that flotation aids will raise the person towards the top of the snow flow where it is less dense and either leave them on the surface, or close to it, and possibly create some sort of air cavity to breathe in. it is not foolproof and may have other dangers, like carrying the wearer along with the flow uncontrollably. however the biggest issue i think is military impracticability - it is additional kit that has to be carried, and its effect may be negated by the gear that soldiers on patrol have to carry anyway

sadly, if you're in a post and get buried by a snow flow, there is not much you can do


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discrimination against the residents of Jammu, ladakh seems to extend to the recruitment of J&K Bank a PSU =
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Publicise merit list of JK Bank recruitment: MLAs =Legislators of the Panthers Party and the Jammu State Morcha (JSM) created an uproar in the Assembly on the issue of discrimination with the Jammu region. During the Zero Hour, Panthers Party MLA Balwant Singh Mankotia raised the issue of recent recruitment conducted by Jammu and Kashmir Bank Limited.

He said of the total number of candidates recruited by the bank, only 25 per cent belonged to the Jammu region. He alleged that the recruitment was conducted in a clandestine manner to debar candidates of the Jammu region.

Mankotia was supported by his party colleague Harsh Dev Singh, who expressed surprise over the way appointment orders were issued to selected candidates. He asked the Finance Minister to table the selection list of the candidates in the Assembly.

Jammu State Morcha MLA Ashwani Sharma also alleged fraud in the recruitment of candidates by the bank. However, they were pacified after the Speaker of the Assembly assured them that he would look into the matter.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120225/j&k.htm#13


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Fencing along LoC extensively damaged by Kashmir avalanches
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 031741.cms


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wig wrote:
there is a slew of three articles on the seminar in the Tribune, chandigarh
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120212/j&k.htm#3


from one of those articles,

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While Manzar admitted that “azadi” had different meanings for the youth, Professor Neera Chandhoke of the Delhi University said there was “nothing radical” about secessionism. However, she gave instances where secessionism had not worked for the people who were of the opinion that freedom from a particular nation would resolve all of their issues.

“Formation of a new state does not solve problems….there is a need to look beyond. However, secession is a right but one needs to go through certain procedures,” she added.


Is this idiot another Aroy ?


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PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012 01:40 
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75 pc Kashmiri youth prefer peaceful protests over gun: Survey
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120212/j&k.htm#3


76 pc Kashmiri youth prefer gin over peaceful protests: hypothesis :mrgreen:


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Mecca high priest to meet Mirwaiz Farooq

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PostPosted: 01 Mar 2012 22:57 
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Syed Ali Shah Geelani gave recommendation letter for LeT militant
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NEW DELHI: Pro-Pakistan hardliner Hurriyat chairman Syed Ali Shah Geelani had given a recommendation letter to Lashkar-e-Taiba militant Athesham Malik, arrested by the Delhi Police, for getting a Pakistani visa.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 099893.cms


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From The Indian Express


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Curfew imposed in Rajouri town
The authorities feared a flare-up after Hindi-Muslim relations were strained following a remark by Praveen Togadia, international general secretary of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad on Monday. The remarks were interpreted as "anti-Muslim" by community leaders, who took out protest marches.

Hindus retaliated with counter protests on Wednesday. Matters worsened Wednesday evening when a procession of Hindus was stoned.


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PostPosted: 13 Mar 2012 14:33 
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Wannabe Paki Islamic Ghazis living in motal fear of...... stray dogs !! :rotfl:

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Health authorities say 53,925 people - mostly children - have been bitten by stray dogs in the 10 districts of Indian-administered Kashmir in the past four years.

Some of the victims have died of rabies. Records at Srinagar's Anti-Rabies Clinic show 12 dog bite-related deaths in the last three years alone.

Things have become so bad that the Jammu and Kashmir State Human Rights Commission has described dog attacks as "violation of human rights".





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The armed forces have often been accused by locals of using the dogs as a "first line of security" in the dark against suspected insurgents or protesters.

The municipality's website even accuses troops of feeding dogs. Civil rights groups also say the troops are "consciously feeding canines" and increasing their population to be used as a "tool of surveillance".
However, paramilitary spokesman Mohasin Shahid rejected the allegations saying: "Stray dogs are nuisance to troops as well. If dogs sneak in our camps it doesn't mean we feed them or encourage their breeding."
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