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PostPosted: 03 Apr 2012 18:37 
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PostPosted: 04 Apr 2012 22:01 
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Aaha. I claim grand success in driving out 'em cheeni drones/trolls by vehemently agreeing with them to the point of boredom...or so I hope...:)

Time now to get the discussion back to PRC econo-remix...


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 04:53 
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Chinese build record breaking bridge: The world's highest, longest tunnel-to-tunnel bridge called Aizhai just open to traffic in China.


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 06:50 
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Chinese build record breaking bridge: The world's highest, longest tunnel-to-tunnel bridge called Aizhai just open to traffic in China.


Wow! :shock: Great achievement! China should import this to other countries. 8)


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 08:08 
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The Super-long Railway Tunnels in China that is operational or u/c.

# Name (Chinese) Province Length km (mi) Tubextrack Year Completed Line(Chinese)

1. New Guanjiao Tunnel (新关角隧道) Qinghai 32.645 km (20.3 mi) 2x1 u/c Xining-Golmud Railway (青藏铁路)

2. West Qinling Tunnel (西秦岭隧道) Gansu 28.24 km (17.5 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

3. Taihang Tunnel (太行山隧道) Shanxi 27.9 km (17.3 mi) 2x1 2007 Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan High-Speed Railway(石太客专)

4. South Lüliangshan Tunnel (南吕梁山隧道) Shanxi 23.4647 km (14.6 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部铁路)

5. Middle Tianshan Tunnel (中天山隧道) Xinjiang 22.452 km (14.0 mi) 2x1 2012 Turpan-Kuqa 2nd Line Railway(南疆铁路土库二线)

6. Qingyunshan Tunnel (青云山隧道)Fujian 22.175 km (13.8 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

7.Wushaoling Tunnel (乌鞘岭隧道) Gansu 21.1 km (13.1 mi) 2x1 2006 Lanzhou - Ürümqi Railway(兰新铁路)

8. Lüliangshan Tunnel (吕梁山隧道) Shanxi 20.800 km (12.925 mi) 2x1 2010 Taiyuan - Zhongwei - Yinchuan Railway(太中银铁路)

9. Muzhailing Tunnel (木寨岭隧道) Gansu 19.08 km (11.86 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

10. Qinling Tunnel (秦岭隧道)Shaanxi 18.460 km (11.5 mi) 2x1 2002 Xi'an - Ankang Railway(西康铁路)

11. Shilin Tunnel (石林隧道) Yunnan 18.218 km (11.3 mi) 1x2 u/c Kunming - Nanning Railway(云桂铁路)

12. Taihangshan Tunnel (太行山隧道) Shanxi,Henan 18.125 km (11.3 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)

13. Xuefengshan Tunnel (雪峰山隧道)Fujian 17.892 km (11.1 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

14. Xiuling Tunnel (秀岭隧道)Yunnan 17.623 km (11.0 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

15. Gaoganshan Tunnel (高盖山隧道)Fujian 17,612 km (10,943.6 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

16. Zhongtiaoshan Tunnel (中条山隧道) Shanxi 17.35 km (10.8 mi) 2x1 u/c Yuncheng-Sanmengxia Railway (运三铁路)

17. Yongshouliang Tunnel (永寿梁隧道)Shaanxi 17.16 km (10.7 mi) 1x1 2012 Xi'an-Pingliang Railway (西平铁路)

18. Liupanshan Tunnel (六盘山隧道) Gansu 16.719 km (10.4 mi) 1x1 2012 Tianshui-Pingliang Railway (天平铁路)

19. Hadapu Tunnel (哈达铺隧道) Gansu 16.6 km (10.3 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

20. Taiyueshan Tunnel (太岳山隧道) Shanxi 16.194 km (10.1 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)

21. Fajiushan Tunnel (发鸠山隧道) Shanxi 16.007 km (9.9 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)

22. Xiangshan Tunnel (象山隧道) Fujian 15.901 km (9.880 mi) 2x1 2011 Longyan-Xiamen Railway (龙厦铁路)

23. Erqingshan Tunnel (二青山隧道) Shanxi 15.851 km (9.8 mi) 2x1 2013 Taiyuan-Xingxian Railway (太兴铁路)

24. Heishan Tunnel (黑山隧道) Gansu 15.764 km (9.795 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

25. Daiyunshan Tunnel (戴云山隧道)Fujian 15.623 km (9.7 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

26. Guanshan Tunnel (关山隧道) Gansu 15.55 km (9.7 mi) 1x1 2012 Tianshui-Pingliang Railway (天平铁路)

27. Liulangshan Tunnel (六狼山隧道) Shanxi 15.175 km (9.4 mi) 1x2 2012 Zhungeer-Shuozhou Railway (准朔铁路)

28. Maotianshan Tunnel (冒天山隧道) Shaanxi 14.915 km (9.3 mi) 1x1 2011 Baotou-Xi'an Railway (包西铁路)

29. Dapoling Tunnel (大坡岭隧道)Yunnan 14.728 km (9.2 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

30. Bibanpo Tunnel (壁板坡隧道)Yunnan 14.7 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 2015 Shanghai-Kunming HSR (沪昆高铁)

31. Yanshan Tunnel (岩山隧道)Guizhou 14.695 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR(贵广高铁)

32. Wuyishan Tunnel (武夷山隧道)Fujian 14.659 km (9.1 mi) 1x2 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路

33. Dazhushan Tunnel (大柱山隧道)Yunnan 14.625 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

34. Sandu Tunnel (三都隧道)Guizhou 14.598 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

35. Tianchiping Tunnel (天池坪隧道)Gansu 14.528 km (9.0 mi) 2x1 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway (兰渝铁路)

36. Dayaoshan Tunnel (大瑶山隧道) Guangdong 14.295 km (8.883 mi) 1x2 1987 Beijing - Guangzhou Railroad(京广铁路)

37. Jinguashan Tunnel(金瓜山隧道)Fujian 14.097 km (8.8 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian)(向莆铁路)

38. YanmengguanTunnel(雁门关隧道)Shanxi 14.085 km (8.8 mi) 1x2 u/c North Datong-Puzhouzhen(北同蒲铁路)

39. Tianpingshan Tunnel (天平山隧道)Guangxi 14.012 km (8.7 mi) 1x2 u/cGuiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

40. Tongmashan Tunnel (同马山隧道)Guizhou 13.929 km (8.7 mi) 1x2 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou Railway (贵广高铁)

41. Yesanguan Tunnel (野三关隧道)Hubei 13.838 km (8.6 mi) 2x1 2009Yichang-Wanzhou Railway (宜万铁路)

42. Baofengshan Tunnel (宝峰山隧道)Guangxi 13.708 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

43. Humaling Tunnel (胡麻岭隧道)Gansu 13.611 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway (兰渝铁路)

44. North Tianshan Tunnel (北天山隧道)Xinjiang 13.610 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 2009 Jinghe-Yining-Huo Erguosi Railway (精伊霍铁路)

45. Wanshoushan Tunnel (万寿山隧道)Chongqing 13.468 km (8.4 mi) 2x1 2012 Chongqing-Lichuan Railway (渝利铁路)

46. Shanyang Tunnel (杉阳隧道)Yunnan 13.465 km (8.4 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

47. Changhongling Tunnel (长洪岭隧道)Yunnan 13.294 km (8.3 mi) 2012 Chongqing-Lichuan Railway (渝利铁路)

48. Dabieshan Tunnel (大别山隧道)Hubei 13.256 km (8.2 mi) 1x2 2008 Hefei-Wuhan High Speed Railway (合武铁路)

49. Anlu Tunnel (安禄隧道)Yunnan 13.187 km (8.2 mi) 2008 Guanglu-Kunming Railway (广昆铁路)

50. Xiapu Tunnel (霞浦隧道)Fujian 13.099 km (8.1 mi) 1x2 2009 Wenzhou-Fuzhou Railway (温福铁路)


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 08:11 
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The Super-long Highway Tunnels in China that is operational or u/c.

# Name (Chinese name) Province metres(mi) Year_open Lanes x Tubes Road

1 Zhongnanshan Tunnel(秦岭终南山隧道) Shaanxi 18.02 km (11.2 mi) 2007 2x2 Xi'an-Zhashui Expressway

2 Micangshan Tunnel(米仓山隧道) Sichuan 13.8 km (8.6 mi) u/c 2x2 Bazhong-Shaanxi Expressway

3 Hsuehshan(雪山隧道) Taiwan 12.942 km (8.0 mi) 2006 2x2 5

4 New Erlangshan Tunnel(新二郎山隧道) Sichuan 13.433 km (8.3 mi) u/c 2x2 Yaan-Kangding Expressway

5 Maijishan Tunnel (麦积山隧道) Gansu 12.288 km (7.6 mi) 2009 2x2 Baoji-Tianshui Expressway

6 Baojiashan Tunnel (包家山隧道) Shaanxi 11.185 km (7.0 mi) 2009 2x2 Xiaohe-Ankang Expressway

7 Baotashan Tunnel (宝塔山隧道) Shanxi 10.480 km (6.5 mi) 2012 2x2 Pingyao-Yushe Expressway

8 Nibashan Tunnel (泥巴山隧道) Sichuan 10.007 km (6.2 mi) 2012 2x2 National Expressway G108, Yaan-Xichang Expressway

9 Zhongtiaoshan Tunnel(中条山隧道) Shanxi 9.67 km (6.01 mi) 2013 2x2 Yuncheng-Lingbao Expressway

10 Mayazi Tunnel(麻崖子隧道) Gansu 9km (5.6 mi) 2012 2x2 Wudu, Longnan-Guanzigou, Wenxian Expressway

11. Shanghai Yangtse River Tunnel (上海长江隧道)Shanghai 8.95 km (5.6 mi) 2009 2x3 Shanghai-Chongming Corridor 2 tubes, world's widest tunnel

12. Longtan Tunnel (龙潭隧道)Hubei 8.657 km (5.4 mi) 2010 2x2 Shanghai-Chengdu West Expressway

13. Zhegushan Tunnel (鹧鸪山隧道)Sichuan 8.55 km (5.3 mi) u/c 2x2 Wenchuan-Maerkang Expressway

14. Xueshanliang Tunnel(雪山梁隧道)Sichuan 7.957 km (4.944 mi) u/c 2x1 Chuanzhusi-Huanglong Highway

15. Balangshan Tunnel(巴朗山隧道)Sichuan 7.945 km (4.937 mi) u/c 2x1 Chuanzhusi-Huanglong Highway

16. Mixiliang Tunnel(米溪梁隧道)Shaanxi 7.938 km (4.932 mi) 2010 2x2 Ankang-Maoba Expressway

17. Kuocangshan Tunnel(括苍山隧道)Zhejiang 7.929 km (4.927 mi) 2008 2x2 Zhuji-Yongjia Expressway 2 tubes, 7.93km + 7.87km

18. Jiaozhou Bay Tunnel (胶州湾海底隧道)Shandong 7.8 km (4.8 mi) 2011 2x3 2 tubes

19. Fangdoushan (Jinzhaishan) Tunnel(方斗山隧道)Chongqing 7.605 km (4.726 mi) 2007 2x2 Zhongxian-Shizhu Expressway 2 tubes, 7.605km + 7.567km

20. Cangling Tunnel(苍岭隧道)Zhejiang 7.605 km (4.726 mi) 2008 2x2 Taizhou-Jinhua Expressway 2 tubes, 7.605km + 7.536km

21. Shimenya Tunnel(石门垭隧道)Hubei 7.52 km (4.67 mi) 2012 2x2 Yichang-Badong Expressway 2 tubes, 7.524km+7.493km

22. Motianling Tunnel(摩天岭隧道)Chongqing 7.353 km (4.569 mi) 2010 2x2 Yichang-Chongqing Expressway 2 tubes, 7.353km + 7.280km

23. Baiyun Tunnel(白云隧道)Chongqing 7.16 km (4.45 mi) 2009 2x2 Chongqing-Changsha Expressway

24. Xishan Tunnel (西山隧道)Shanxi 7.11 km (4.4 mi) 2011 2x2 Taiyuan-Gujiao Expressway 2 tubes 7.11km+7.03 km

25. Taining Tunnel(泰宁隧道)Fujian 7.039 km (4.374 mi) u/c 2x2 Jianning-Taining Expressway 2 tubes, 7.039km + 7.007km

26. Xuefengshan Tunnel(雪峰山隧道)Hunan 6.956 km (4.322 mi) 2007 2x2 Shaoyang-Huaihua Expressway 2 tubes, 6.956km + 6.946km

27. Tongsheng Tunnel(通省隧道)Hubei 6.887 km (4.279 mi) u/c 2x2 Shiyan-Fangxian Expressway

28. Queershan Tunnel(雀儿山隧道)Sichuan 6.887 km (4.279 mi) u/c 2x2 National Highway # 317

29. Wuchiba Tunnel(乌池坝隧道)Huibei 6.713 km (4.171 mi) 2008 2x2 Shanghai-Chengdu West Expressway 2 tubes, 6.713km + 6.708km

30. Yangjiao Tunnel(羊角隧道)Chongqing 6.682 km (4.152 mi) 2008 2x2 Chongqing-Changsha Expressway

31. Lüjialiang Tunnel(吕家梁隧道)Chongqing 6.664 km (4.141 mi) 2008 2x2 Zhongxian-Shizhu Expressway

32. Mingyueshan Tunnel(明月山隧道)Chongqing, Sichuan 6.557 km (4.074 mi) 2008 2x2 Dianjiang-Lingshui Expressway 2 tubes, 6.557km + 6.555km

33. Xinglingjing Tunnel(西凌井隧道)Shanxi 6.555 km (4.073 mi) 2011 2x2 Taiyuan-Jianxian Expressway

34. Donggongshan Tunnel(洞宫山隧道)Fujian 6.537 km (4.062 mi) 2012 2x2 Ningde-Wuyishan Expressway

35. Xiakou Tunnel(峡口隧道)Hubei 6.487 km (4.031 mi) 2012 2x2 Yichang-Badong Expressway

36. Putaoshan Tunnel(葡萄山隧道)Chongqing 6.308 km (3.920 mi) 2008 2x2 Chongqing-Changsha Expressway

37. Shuangfeng Tunnel(双峰隧道)Zhejiang 6.184 km (3.843 mi) 2008 2x2 Zhuji-Yongjia Expressway

38. Qinling I Tunnel(秦岭一号隧道)Shaanxi 6.144 km (3.818 mi) 2007 2x2 Xi'an-Hanzhong Expressway

39. Qinling II Tunnel(秦岭二号隧道)Shaanxi 6.125 km (3.806 mi) 2007 2x2 Xi'an-Hanzhong Expressway

40. Dabashan Tunnel(大巴山隧道)Sichuan 6.123 km (3.805 mi) 2011 2x2 Dazhou-Shaanxi Expressway 2 tubes, 6.123km+6.115km

41. Zhongxing Tunnel(中兴隧道)Chongqing 6.105 km (3.793 mi) 2009 2x2 Wulong-Pengshui Expressway 2 tubes, 6.105km+6.082 km

42. Fengshuiguan Tunnel(分水关隧道)Fujian 6.043 km (3.755 mi) 2012 2x2 Ningde-Wuyishan Expressway 2 tubes, 6.043km + 5.947km

43. Tiefengshan #2 Tunnel(铁峰山2号隧道)Chongqing 6.025 km (3.744 mi) 2007 2x2 Wanzhou-Kaixian Expressway

44. Xiang'an Undersea Tunnel (翔安海底隧道)Fujian 5.96 km (3.7 mi) 2010 2x3 2 tubes

45. Jieling Tunnel(界岭隧道)Hubei 5.681 km (3.530 mi) 2012 2x2 Yichang-Badong Expressway

46. Jiangjunshi Tunnel(将军石隧道)Sichuan-Gansu 5.585 km (3.470 mi) 2013 2x2 Guangyuan-Gansu Expressway

47. Meiguling Tunnel(美菰林隧道)Fujian 5.580 km (3.467 mi) 2003 2x2 Beijing-Fuzhou Expressway 2 tubes, 5.580km + 5.568km

48. Yunzhongshan Tunnel(云中山隧道)Shanxi 5.575 km (3.464 mi) 2011 2x2 Xinzhou-Baode County Expressway 2 tubes, 5.575km + 5.565km

49. Qiangfengling Tunnel(抢风岭隧道)Shanxi 5.570 km (3.461 mi) 2011 2x2 Lingqiu-Shanyin Expressway 2 tubes

50. Lajishan Tunnel(拉脊山隧道)Qinghai 5.53 km (3.44 mi) 2012 2x2 Xi-jiu highway

51. Huoshao'an Tunnel(火烧庵隧道)Hubei 5.5 km (3.4 mi) 2012 2x2 Yichang-Badong Expressway

52. Bayuan Tunnel(灞源隧道)Shaanxi 5.450 km (3.386 mi) 2012 2x2 Xi'an-Shangzhou Expressway 2 tubes, 5.450km+5.445km

53. Jiulingshan Tunnel(九岭山隧道)Jiangxi 5.44 km (3.38 mi) 2008 2x2 Wuning-Jian Expressway

54. Sanhuashi Tunnel(三花石隧道)Shaanxi 5.434 km (3.377 mi) 2012 2x2 Shiyan-Tianshui Expressway 2 tubes, 5.434km+5.431km

55. Qipanguan Tunnel(棋盘关隧道)Shaanxi 5.347 km (3.322 mi) 2009 2x2 Ningqiang-Qipanguan Expressway

56. Guling Tunnel(鹘岭隧道)Shaanxi 5.333 km (3.314 mi) 2008 2x2 Hanzhong-Manchuanguan Expressway 2 tubes, 5.333km+5.273km

57. Yanmengshan Tunnel(雁门关隧道)Shanxi 5.230 km (3.250 mi) 2003 2x2 Datong-[Yuncheng]] Expressway 2 tubes, 5.230km+5.135km

58. Tongluoshan Tunnel(铜锣山隧道) Sichuan 5.197 km (3.229 mi) 2009 2x2 Lingshui-Dianjiang Expressway 2 tubes

59. Jiahuoyan Tunnel(夹活岩隧道) Hubei 5.224 km (3.246 mi) 2010 2x2 Shanghai-Chengdu Expressway 2 tubes, 5.224km+5.146km

60. Fengjieliang Tunnel(分界梁隧道) Chongqing 5.085 km (3.160 mi) 2010 2x2 Chongqing-Yichang Expressway 2 tubes, 5.085km+5.080km

61. Caihongling Tunnel(彩虹岭隧道) Guangdong 5.068 km (3.149 mi) 2007 1x2 Shuanghe Highway

62. Dafengkou Tunnel(大风口隧道) Chongqing 5.003 km (3.109 mi) 2011 2x2 Wushan-Fengjie Expressway 2 tubes


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 09:20 
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Raja Bose!!!
See what you've done! Give them an inch....


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Hari, you cannot gloat quickly. Have patience!


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PostPosted: 05 Apr 2012 11:41 
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zlin, What a fantastic achievement! 8)

Do you also have a list of super long trains in China? I think there is much Chinese innovation here. I am truly in awe.


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^^I am in more awe than you, raja bose! Hmmmph.


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I think you made a mistake in the list.

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3 Hsuehshan(雪山隧道) Taiwan 12.942 km (8.0 mi) 2006 2x2 5


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That is okay bosemulla.... China is still amazing. I don't think India will ever catch up with PRC. They are the sooper pawar in waiting... May be eternally.


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Any list of internationally recognized literary,intellectual work done in last 2,3 decades?


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paramu wrote:
That is okay bosemulla.... China is still amazing. I don't think India will ever catch up with PRC. They are the sooper pawar in waiting... May be eternally.


I thought they were already a super power :shock: I don't think India should even try to catch up since its democratic system is too chaotic, flawed and inefficient. We pay too much attention to people's feelings and what they think and not enough attention on the main goal which is making money and projecting positive image.


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Raja Bose wrote:
We pay too much attention to people's feelings and what they think and not enough attention on the main goal which is making money and projecting positive image.


Tell that to the hundreds of million of people who lives in slums and don't have enough food to get by daily that "you are paying too much attention" to their feelings.

I thought the previous effort that you put up to mock and bash China was better than this sarcasm which is neither witty nor funny.


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ashi wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:
We pay too much attention to people's feelings and what they think and not enough attention on the main goal which is making money and projecting positive image.


Tell that to the hundreds of million of people who lives in slums and don't have enough food to get by daily that "you are paying too much attention" to their feelings.

I thought the previous effort that you put up to mock and bash China was better than this sarcasm which is neither witty nor funny.

Oh exalted one, please tell us on how to better the lives of hundreds of millions of people. Please reeducate us.


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Engineering marvel--The Qing-Tibet Railway, by Discovery Channel



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ashi wrote:
Tell that to the hundreds of million of people who lives in slums and don't have enough food to get by daily that "you are paying too much attention" to their feelings.


I can definitely do that - I am going to China in 2 weeks. :)

ashi wrote:
I thought the previous effort that you put up to mock and bash China was better than this sarcasm which is neither witty nor funny.


Please forgive my 4th cousin, he sometimes logs in through my BRF account. Why do you think you are the target?? :shock:


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Tell that to the hundreds of million of people who lives in slums and don't have enough food to get by daily that "you are paying too much attention" to their feelings.




Slum dwellers don't want to evict the slums . They are sometimes offered an equivalent of USD 100K to offer a small piece of land in dharaavi , yet they refuse.


You can get a better understanding the political dynamics of slums in mumbai by the following article..

http://opinion.inquirer.net/8739/a-walk-thru-dharavi

Slum dwellers are not in as bad shape as you might imagine. Many have LCD tv and satellite connection..


a decade or 2 down the line mumbai may be slum free.. once they are offered a satisfactory compensation Dharaavi might end up with shopping malls and high rise buildings .. there won't be any skyscrapers due to its proximity to airport. but it ll become a decent area.

http://www.dharavi.org/Dharavi_Advocacy ... nt_Project

when you talk about Indian slums , you don't known what you are talking about..


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if people were allowed to film freely , even more grotesque pictures would emerge..

It is a matter of time , that India will achieve the infra , that China has achieved . But China will never achieve the judiciary , the democracy , the freedom of speech etc that India has already achieved and is continually evolving..


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if you want to get to poverty p0rnography , I can show you chinese poverty ..



The official statement from Chinese government is we are still a poor country in per capital base. And the video you show is the poverty in remote village in China. Usually those place are not well connected in road with other parts of China. It is not a slum.


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if people were allowed to film freely , even more grotesque pictures would emerge..

It is a matter of time , that India will achieve the infra , that China has achieved . But China will never achieve the judiciary , the democracy , the freedom of speech etc that India has already achieved and is continually evolving..


Gakakkad, I suggest you to pay a trip to China to see if anyone stopping you from filming the poor village. Every year there are far more tourists go to China than India. You heard anyone complaining (not counting the spies)?

Whatever the judiciary,democracy you have, has it stopped the rampant corruption and inept government? The democracy you have, it is as real as the communism we have in China currently.


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The official statement from Chinese government is we are still a poor country in per capital base. And the video you show is the poverty in remote village in China.


the official statement from Indian government is that we are still piss poor.. the official statement for BR-fite is that we are still poor due to the socialist nutheads running the country.. no one here ever claimed otherwise ..



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Usually those place are not well connected in road with other parts of China. It is not a slum.


there is no internal visa in India .. villages migrate to slums at a certain time of the year to work in businesses.. There are no slums in shanghai because they are not allowed to be there.. first thing is that people are not allowed to reside in shanghai due to the internal visa ..second thing is that they are locked up at night than allowed to build a slum..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38248053/ns ... 35waasS01I

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China's capital has started gating and locking some of its lower-income neighborhoods overnight, with police or security checking identification papers around the clock, in a throwback to an older style of control.



you don't see slums in Beijing because you lock them up..

[youtube]X4jyvqSY5rw[/quote]



P.S India is a piss poor country... we have a corrupt inefficient government and boor-o-cracy

Jai hu Jai mao..


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Whatever the judiciary,democracy you have, has it stopped the rampant corruption and inept government? The democracy you have, it is as real as the communism we have in China currently.



Plan to visit China sometimes. I have visited HK as a kid.. liked to place..

I suggest you visit India..


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Aha. More pissing contests. jai hu, jai mao.

ashi wrote:
Gakakkad, I suggest you to pay a trip to China to see if anyone stopping you from filming the poor village. Every year there are far more tourists go to China than India. You heard anyone complaining (not counting the spies)?

Yup, easy for a drone to say that. But if you overstep the invisible line, you'll disappear with no recourse in law, courts, anything.

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Whatever the judiciary,democracy you have, has it stopped the rampant corruption and inept government? The democracy you have, it is as real as the communism we have in China currently.

Whoever said democracy was about stopping rampant corruption and inept government. Democracy is about the govt respecting people's fundamental rights, first and foremost. It for instance, has stopped the govt from implementing a one-child-only policy by fiat here. Or coercive curbs on internal migration. What a disaster that would've been... Intruding that much into people's private lives won't stand in a democracy. Whereas, in PRC its par for the course and will find wilful defenders among the dronistas.

Lest anyone have delusions about this - slums existed even in the first world a century ago. They existed in Toronto as late as the 1950s. It took a century plus of steady growth to get the 1st world to its slum-free existence today. Even then, trailer parks and inner city ghettos abound. We'll get there someday, a generation or 2 hence.

In any case, this 'debate' itself is pointless. I might hajaar admire PRC's halmony and plogress but its impossible to replicate the PRC style govt here. Just not happening. So we move on, exposing our faults, faultlines, weaknesses, rotten-ness and corruption to the open, to the sunlight's disinfecting properties. Here, what you see is what you get. Truth and honesty (even unconsciously done) have something to them after all. Time will tell or so I hope.


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ashi wrote:
You heard anyone complaining (not counting the spies)?


You mean any one who complains is considered a spy (and then conveniently shot)? Even before they can emigrate with their Kanadian vijja? :shock:

ashi wrote:
The democracy you have, it is as real as the communism we have in China currently.


This is the statement which conclusively proves that democracy is alive and thriving in India - Jai Hu! 8)


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I repeat..this never happens in India

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38248053/ns ... ges-night/

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BEIJING — The government calls it "sealed management." China's capital has started gating and locking some of its lower-income neighborhoods overnight, with police or security checking identification papers around the clock, in a throwback to an older style of control.




I am sure the chinese guest line of argument will be like this - "Just because you don't lock up your poor does not mean that you are a true democracy "


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Moderator's Note: What's the point of this Nth democracy vs authoritarianism flamewar ? Haven't we all established that the debate never amounts to anything more than collateral damage ?

zlin: please stop wasting bandwidth demonstrating your cut and paste skills. This isn't one of those soulless Chinese boards. You're expected to debate.


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gakakkad wrote:
I repeat..this never happens in India

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38248053/ns ... ges-night/

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BEIJING — The government calls it "sealed management." China's capital has started gating and locking some of its lower-income neighborhoods overnight, with police or security checking identification papers around the clock, in a throwback to an older style of control.


Eegregation system is bad indeed.

In india it may not hapen in this way, but happeds in another invisiable but more terrible way.

Welcom to china. Please share your stories about exprience in China. Just like the Chinese guy told his exprience in India's countryside.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1491364062?pn=1


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Sha, let me call you on the BS. First post disappeared, he say? You gotta be kidding us. Why waste your time and ours? This is like a bunch of schoolkids operating, not the professional drones that you are. Please bring us better material to understand how the Chinese understand Indians because most Indians really don't get China or the Chinese. Most folks don't even care.


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I think you made a mistake in the list.

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3 Hsuehshan(雪山隧道) Taiwan 12.942 km (8.0 mi) 2006 2x2 5


silly phool..

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^^^Taiwan is part of China?? Why didn't anybody tell me?? :shock:


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Raja Bose wrote:
^^^Taiwan is part of China?? Why didn't anybody tell me?? :shock:

At this rate if we build a bridge or tunnel in Arunachal Pradesh, it will show up on their list.


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Raja Bose wrote:
^^^Taiwan is part of China?? Why didn't anybody tell me?? :shock:


Taiwan is called Republic of China officially.


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Could you please start a" PRC Benis" thread for drones to post whatever they like there? Transfer relevant posts from this thread to that. Sanity of this thread has to be reclaimed.


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ashi wrote:
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^^^Taiwan is part of China?? Why didn't anybody tell me?? :shock:


Taiwan is called Republic of China officially.


But that's different from People's Republic of China. Can I visit Taiwan for a business trip if I just have a business visa for PRC? :)


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ashi wrote:
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^^^Taiwan is part of China?? Why didn't anybody tell me?? :shock:


Taiwan is called Republic of China officially.

It's a different country from the People's Republic of China, just as Pakistan and Bangladesh are different countries from India.


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