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This Is The New 'It' Destination for India's Rich And Famous
http://luxpresso.com/news-indulge/mathe ... mous/12020
Is Matheran the new maha cool destination for the city's well heeled? Before Switzerland and Italy were hangouts of your diarist's favourite trustafarians, Matheran was where the patrician summered. Now we find that the Dubashes are restoring their family stronghold and Zia Mody has recently acquired a massive property there.They will have good neighbours in the Shapoorji Pallonji clan that is frequently there in December. Meanwhile, Siddharth Dhanvant Shanghvi, is now Matheran resident. Locals report of Shanghvi's visiting buddies - Bollywood royalty, literary legends, even the odd Italian fashion house heiress. But if you are itching to reach out for a phone and dial a rendezvous, be warned - the call may never go through. Perhaps this heightened anonymity is why the international jet set heads to monkeysville?
Where is this place?
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Matheran is a small hill station in the Western Ghats, close to Mumbai. Many middle class families of Mumbai would spend weekends there when I was growing up. Looks like it's moved "upmarket" since then.
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Delhi Confidential
NO QUESTIONS

Remember Babri Masjid Action Committee convener Zafaryab Jilani? Well, he has been appointed the additional advocate-general by the Akhilesh Yadav government. In a normal situation, the BJP would promptly cry foul over this development and go hammer and tongs against “Maulana” Mulayam. But none of this for the saffron party for now. State BJP leaders, who found themselves overwhelmed by poll-managers, surveyors and busybodies from outside in the polls, are apparently in no hurry to get back to work so soon. Incidentally, Jilani’s views on many other issues relating to minority communities are at variance with SP’s Muslim strongman Azam Khan.

TRYING TIMES

ON Thursday as Rahul Gandhi started consultations with leaders from Uttar Pradesh to analyse the reasons for the party’s debacle in assembly elections, Congress general secretary in charge of the state Digvijaya Singh was abroad dealing with a more serious crisis in the family. With two members of his family battling cancer, the former Madhya Pradesh chief minister has been going through trying times. What his colleagues found impressive was how he used to shuttle between the US, where his family members have been undergoing treatment, and UP where he was trying to revive the party’s fortune — all with a smile and equanimity.
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http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/a ... epage=true
good article to read, even though most of what said jells well in BR. still, many keep asking questions without context or having no idea of where we want to be
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Delhi Confidential
NO QUESTIONS

Remember Babri Masjid Action Committee convener Zafaryab Jilani? Well, he has been appointed the additional advocate-general by the Akhilesh Yadav government. In a normal situation, the BJP would promptly cry foul over this development and go hammer and tongs against “Maulana” Mulayam. But none of this for the saffron party for now. State BJP leaders, who found themselves overwhelmed by poll-managers, surveyors and busybodies from outside in the polls, are apparently in no hurry to get back to work so soon. Incidentally, Jilani’s views on many other issues relating to minority communities are at variance with SP’s Muslim strongman Azam Khan.

TRYING TIMES

ON Thursday as Rahul Gandhi started consultations with leaders from Uttar Pradesh to analyse the reasons for the party’s debacle in assembly elections, Congress general secretary in charge of the state Digvijaya Singh was abroad dealing with a more serious crisis in the family. With two members of his family battling cancer, the former Madhya Pradesh chief minister has been going through trying times. What his colleagues found impressive was how he used to shuttle between the US, where his family members have been undergoing treatment, and UP where he was trying to revive the party’s fortune — all with a smile and equanimity.
Seems to me at this stage BJP has given up and os resigned to a UPA-3 Govt or third front led, INC supported Govt.
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I think we get confused by the high funda stuff about INC goals and freedom movement contributions, Westminister system and all those ideals. All that is how it should be.

The reality is right after Independence, INC became a political power house and its only point was how to expand in all of India and not just British India and then how to retain that power. Examples are dismissing Opposition ruled State govts invoking art 355 etc. Appointing dubious characters as governors of Opposition run State Govts. All these are expansion traits.

While this was going on, INC transformed itself into a dynasty led party. What happened here is the INC got afraid of the masses taking power and did something like the English did after the Revolution in 1630s. They restored the monarchy with Charles II for they were afraid of the commoners taking over. However INC could not be as blatant as to restore a monarchy in modern times so they went for a dynasty led elected monarchy.

Now to keep the dynasty elected, they need to appease some segments of the selectorate (only those who vote out of those who are elegible to vote). Now even this is a large number so they prop up Trojan Horse parties to divide the opposition like TRS, PRP, MNS etc. To add to this, they have like minded, but apprarantly different parties to ensure further decrease in the selectorate eg. SP, Lalu's outfit, TMC etc.

Then there is the Commie Left who are brain dead and are really British creation (even if they claim to get inspiration from FSU and PRC they really are trained in UK: Joyti Basu, Somnath Chatterjee etc.) who further reduce the selectorate.

So for them to be dislodged all these factors need to be overcome.

Left is mostly dead idea wise but their support is really caste based in most of India and hence will still be present in pockets.

Its the Torjans who have to be bought over to the nationalist idea. A new selectorate will be formed.

I think in the past most dynasties fell because they didn't have the selectorate with them.

The long duration dynasties (Satavahanas, Chalukyas, Cholas typical 450 years rule) of India had long term support of their selectorate and benefitted by making the selectorate bigger by creating a meritocracy.
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Good points.
INC has become a special interest groups party and this will change as the people become aware

Leftist/marxist party take is spot on
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UP may withdraw cases against two accused
The Akhilesh Yadav government is examining the possibility of withdrawing cases against alleged Harkat-ul-Jihad-e-Islami (HuJI) operatives Tariq Kazmi of Azamgarh and Khalid Mujahid of Jaunpur, who are accused in the 2007 Lucknow and Faizabad court blast cases.
Both are lodged in the Lucknow jail at present. They have been charge-sheeted and their trial is under way.

The Special Task Force claims to have arrested them from outside the Barabanki railway station on December 20, 2007, and seized 1.250 kg RDX, six detonators, three cellphones and two SIM cards. Few days later, the STF made two more arrests, that of Sajjad-ur- Rahman and Akhtar, both from J&K.

All four were accused of involvement in triggering the serial blasts in Lucknow and Faizabad district courts on November 23, 2007. While the blast in Lucknow did not cause much damage, the one in Faizabad claimed five lives. A third blast took place in Varanasi.

Both Kazmi and Mujahid are facing trials in Barabanki, Faizabad and Lucknow. Tariq is also accused of conducting a recce in Gorakhpur where a blast took place on May 22 same year. He has, however, not been summoned for trial in the case.

Government sources said the Law Department had been asked to study the cases pending against Tariq and Khalid. The ATS, which is the investigating agency, will be asked to provide the details about evidence, witnesses and the court proceedings, the sources said.
SP caught in Imam-Azam crossfire now

Rahul warns UP Cong leaders against indiscipline, vows to turn party's fate

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asi ... story.html
The two views on India’s Narendra Modi
GANDHINAGAR, India — He is widely touted as a possible future prime minister of India, but he is a pariah in much of the Western world. Some in India call him a role model, their country’s most competent leader. Others accuse him of being complicit in the mass murder of Muslims.Narendra Modi is probably India’s most complex and divisive figure, a man whose rise could kick-start the economy but whose Hindu nationalist leanings would polarize the country along religious lines and potentially, critics say, undermine the long-cherished secular identity of the world’s largest democracy and a key American strategic ally.Since Modi, Gujarat has seen faster economic growth than the nation as a whole.The chief minister of the Indian state of Gujarat, Modi is fawned over by business leaders for the way he has rooted out corruption and promoted economic and industrial growth. His fast-growing state has attracted investment from all over India as well as from American companies such as Ford and General Motors.Yet he has been denied a visa to visit the United States over allegations that he failed to prevent Hindu mobs from massacring between 1,000 and 2,000 Muslims during riots in his state in 2002 or that he even actively encouraged the slaughter.His prominence represents a yearning among certain sections of the middle classes for a strong, decisive leader, a desire to emulate China’s economic successes and impatience, too, with liberal ideas of human rights and social justice.Ron Somers, the head of the U.S.-India Business Council, said Modi has “created a magnet for investment.” A Congressional Research Service report lauded Gujarat as “perhaps India’s best example of effective governance and impressive development.”
Gujarat has long been an entrepreneurial, business-friendly state, but Modi has helped unleash its potential since he took over in late 2001, with the state’s economy growing by more than 10 percent since then, compared with a national average of under eight.“We make a very simple promise to all who wish to invest in Gujarat,” said Modi, a key figure in India’s main opposition party, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), in a rare interview last month. “We promise an atmosphere of clean, proactive and responsive government. We promise an environment that minimizes red tape-ism and encourages business.”The BJP was largely pro-business and pro-America while ruling India as head of a coalition government from 1998 to 2004, but its strident assertion of what it sees as India’s essentially Hindu character alienates many people in this diverse nation of 1.2 billion people.A man with few close friends, Modi sleeps just 31 / 2 hours a night, admits to being a “workaholic,” says he has no time to even read books these days and no pastimes at all apart from an early-morning spell of yoga.He expects a similar dedication from his administration. Bureaucrats are kept on a tight leash and to tight deadlines. Even cabinet ministers clock in and out, and keep him informed if they leave their offices for meetings, a radically different way of working in India.
The United States does not allow its ambassador to meet with Modi, restricting access to the level of its consul general in Mumbai. The British government will not deal with him at all.Other countries are not so troubled by Modi’s record, and while contacts with Canada and Japan might not bother Washington, Modi’s warm reception on a visit to China last November would not have gone unnoticed.Private conversations with Western diplomats suggest that there is a general desire to rehabilitate Modi, a feeling that bets need to be hedged in case he rises to national prominence.“We believe it would dilute our influence to avoid Modi completely,” the U.S. Embassy wrote in a 2006 cable released by WikiLeaks, adding that waiting until Modi “achieved national stature” to engage with him could be seen as opportunistic.· .
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Robert Vadra .. And The Tip Of The Iceberg


Rohini Singh & Sruthijith KK, The Economic Times

Vadra Makes Low-Key Entry into Real Estate

Sonia Gandhi’s son-in-law ties up with DLF, buys tracts of land in tier-3 cities in Haryana & Rajasthan
In the battle of the vices, corruption has beat communalism.
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habal wrote:In the battle of the vices, corruption has beat communalism.
The voters don't seem tot think so. Certainly the ones in key swing states like AP, UP, MH and Delhi.
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Not sure which forum to post too, however this is important.
Rockefeller Fund played a part in anti-mining stirs: Federation of Indian Mineral Industries
the industry lobby alluded to a "concerted move" by "vested interests" in US and Western Europe for stalling economic development in India.
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It even suspects the National Green Tribunal of being infiltrated by these vested interests. What's prompted the industry lobby is a funding proposal for a movement to stop Australian coal exports, based on research supported by the Rockefeller Family Fund (RFF).
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They do everything possible through their respective governments or various funds (such as Rockefeller Family Fund) and adopt various measures such as provoking the local NGOs to fight Civil Suit, organise local protests, contacting the opposition legislators so that the fate of the project become uncertain leading to the financial unviability of mineral based industries as well as mineral resources.
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Rockefeller family fund, however categorically denied any role ..
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..believes both Vedanta's Niyamgiri Bauxite Mining Project in Odisha, and the National Green Tribunal's recent suspension of environmental clearance for Posco's steel were both the results of influence by these groups who have "percolated extensively in this country, particularly in Odisha."(my comment- thereby not allowing Odisha to prosper. Why Odisha?)

"I have got every doubt that even the National Green Tribunal has been infiltrated by these vested interests in US and Western Europe whose main objective is to stall the progress and growth of this country," Sharma alluded in the letter. The petitioner, an activist Prafulla Samantray pooh-poohed FIMI claims.

"It is in fact American lobbying and pressure that has moved the Prime Minister's office to set up a monitoring cell for Posco when it has done nothing of the kind for any other project. It is because Posco's backed by American banks and institutions that own more indirect stake in the company than its Korean promoters," claims Samantray.
Just wondering that if economic progress, mineral resources development is the best when done ingenuously. Correct me if I am wrong, but otherwise it is just playing catching up for the same.
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Orrisa is the ground for Christian conversion. Keeping the people poor is important for Christians to get more people into their folk.

One Indian EJ confided with me the elaborate plan to scan the population and how they target the poor population and exploit faultlines in the soceity
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If the world culd move the Abu Simbel temples to build the Aswan Dam why cant the GOI move the temple to build a road?

X-Post of Surasena in Nukkad.
Road that may erase history

T. S. SUBRAMANIAN

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The temple at Panaiyapuram that has been marked for demolition to facilitate NH expansion. Photo: T. Singaravelou

The NHAI's plan to widen the Vikkiravandi –Thanjavur National Highway 45C will destroy a 1,300-year-old Siva temple.

A 1,300-year old Siva temple, celebrated in the verses of Saivite saint Tirugnana Sambandar and boasting of inscriptions belonging to the Chola kings, is facing demolition by the National Highways Authority of India (NHAI).
The Tirupuravar Panankateesvarar temple is situated in Panaiyapuram village, two km from Vikkiravandi in Villupuram district of Tamil Nadu. The Pennaiyar flows near Panaiyapuram. The temple is also called Paravaipuram.

The NHAI, which is widening the Vikkiravandi –Thanjavur National Highway 45C, over a distance of about 160 km, has painted big arrow marks in white on the compound wall of the temple and inside its premises, where the widened road will cut through.

The NHAI has placed stones outside the temple to signify the portions that will be lost to the highway's widening. If this plan goes through, the temple's sanctum sanctorum for Panankateesvarar, the adjacent shrine for the goddess Satyambikai and much of the temple premises including other shrines, will be demolished. This has shocked and angered about 4,000 Panaiyapuram villagers and residents of Pappanapattu, Mundiyambakkam, Kappiyampuliyur and Thuravi villages. They met the Villupuram District Collector, V. Sampath, and submitted a petitionto him.

STRONG STAND

R.P. Pugazhendhi, former president of the Panaiyapuram panchayat, said: “We are spending sleepless nights. Almost the entire temple including the sanctum, the shrines for goddess Satyambikai, Ganesa and Muruga will be demolished. Only the flag-post and the shrine for Saneesvarar will remain. There is enough land on the west of the temple for the broadened highway to go through or a new alignment can be given from the National Highway 45. We will not allow even a single stone from the temple to be removed.”

R. Nagaswamy, former Director, Tamil Nadu Archaeology Department, said that the 1,300-year old temple was visited by the Tamil Savite saint Tirugnana Sambandar, who lived in the seventh century CE, and had sung verses celebrating the deity, a Sivalinga. The Sivalinga is called Panankateesvarar because the area abounds with palmyra trees.

The temple has a number of inscriptions belonging to Rajendra Chola I (regnal years 1012 CE to 1043 CE), his son, Rajendra Chola II, Adhi Rajendra, Kulotunga I, Jatavarman Sundara Pandya I and Vikrama Pandya among others.

Rajendra Chola's inscription called the deity Nethrodharaka Swami (meaning, the main deity will cure eye ailments). The inscription recorded the gift of land and money for worship and making offerings in the temple. It spoke about Rajendra Chola's conquest of Kadaram. (The present-day Kedda in Malaysia was called Kadaram and it belonged to Sri Vijaya kingdom). It revealed that the Chola emperor rebuilt the main temple between 1025 CE and 1040 CE, pointed out Dr. Nagaswamy.


“Another important aspect of the village is that it is also named Paravaipuram,” he said. Paravai was the consort of Tamil Saivite saint Sundarar, who lived in the eighth century CE. Paravai belonged to a family of dancing girls and she is worshipped even today, along with Sundarar, in Siva temples. Rajendra Chola I also had a personal assistant called Paravai, who was an ‘anukki.' This Paravai was named after Sundarar's consort. (Female personal assistants, who were trusted by the kings, were called anukki and anukkan were their male counterparts). Paravai built the Thyagaraja temple at Tiruvarur in Tamil Nadu and covered the vimana with gold, said Dr. Nagaswamy .

HONOURING PARAVAI

To honour her, Rajendra Chola I made her sit next to him in his royal chariot and drove her in a procession on the four main streets around the Thyagaraja temple. The Chola emperor made two bronze images resembling her and placed them before the deity in the Tiruvarur temple's sanctum and worshipped them. “This is recorded in a long inscription in the Tiruvarur temple,” said Dr. Nagaswamy, a scholar in epigraphy. Rajendra Chola I re-built the Panaiyapuram temple in Paravai's honour, when she was alive and the town around the temple was named after her.

The temple has two inscriptions of Rajendra Chola II (regnal years 1052 to 1064 CE), both datable to 1058 CE. One of the inscriptions mentions his gift of paddy to “Paravai Easwaramudaiyar Mahadeva in the town of Paravaipuram in Panaiyur Nadu”, falling under the larger division called “Rajendra Chola Valanadu.”

The temple has an inscription of Adhi Rajendra, who ruled from 1068 to 1071 CE. This inscription, dated 1070 CE, records the gift of tax-free land to the temple by a merchants' guild of Paravaipuram to feed the pilgrims. There is a record of Kulotunga Chola I (regnal years 1070-1122 CE) on the gift of gold coins by a chieftain named Ponnambala Kizhan of Arumbakkam, near present-day Chennai, for lighting a perpetual lamp.


“An interesting point about the Panaiyapuram temple”, said Dr. Nagaswamy, “is that on the first day of the Tamil month of Chithirai every year, the sun rays fall on the Sivalinga enshrined in the sanctum and the idol of Satyambikai. The temple's orientation is so perfect that this happens and special pujas are offered.”

S. Ganesa Gurukkal, the temple priest, was emphatic that the villagers would take all steps needed to save the temple. “We went to Chennai and gave a petition to the NHAI officials,” he said.

When contacted, an NHAI official said, “We are trying to save the temple. We are trying to look at other options. The NHAI headquarters has been informed about the villagers' objections.”

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Vo Subha Kabhi to Aayegi - 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_SHadp ... ure=relmfu

Mission half accomplished and will be fulfilled in next 20years
Cheen-o-Arab Hamara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWfHRCxD ... ure=relmfu

Shyam Saran is saying the same thing.Mission success 30% onlee. Need another 40 years .

Indian GDP60Trilion, Population Stable at 1.5 Billion. Literacy 99% , Armed Forces 5 Million, Nationalism 1008%. Enemies trembling at 20k RPM.Bad news , many of us wont be there to witness such glory. Good News, we will take rebirth and take it further. 8)
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http://crackberry.com/indian-government ... m-messages
Indian government now able to tap BBM messages
On Saturday, India Today reported that the India government is getting its way when it comes to tapping into BlackBerry devices. I sure hope RIM handles this clearly with the remaining global media sources who haven't yet written about this. For years, there have been significant misunderstandings about RIM security. It has lead to a lot of crappy reporting. And unless RIM takes a different strategy this time, it's bound to lead to more of the same. The India Today article is well written. The issues are clearly laid out. The government needed RIM's help to decrypt BBM messages coming from BIS accounts. So to be very clear, RIM is not helping the government decrypt BES messages. RIM has always said they don't hold the keys to BES decryption. Those keys are specific to each BES installation. BBM, which is used by about one million consumers in India, is not as secure as BES. Sure, it uses 256 bit encryption, and is much more secure than a normal email. But the encryption key is shared. It's the same key across all users. So as long as the government has the key, and the encrypted message, it can decrypt whatever it wants.
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Jhujar wrote:Indian GDP60Trilion, Population Stable at 1.5 Billion. Literacy 99% , Armed Forces 5 Million, Nationalism 1008%. Enemies trembling at 20k RPM.
Hallelujah!
Bad news , many of us wont be there to witness such glory. Good News, we will take rebirth and take it further. 8)
Amen, birader. Amen.
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Jhujar wrote:Armed Forces 5 Million
This goal is achieved already. Perhaps this needs to be updated to a larger number?
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Savarkar once said (much before independence), to ensure the India (tibet and Myanmar included) is secured, the army should be 1 crore.
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From twitter

>> @ETVUPLIVE Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence asks 3 services chiefs to appear before it on April 20 on defence preparedness.
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5 million to 1 crore strong army. Sounds good but who will pay for their salaries and pensions ? Welcome to 21st century.What we need is Unmanned assets backed by robust AI research.

Check this link by Gurmeet Kanwal wrt increasing manpower costs of Indian Military

http://idsa.in/system/files/jds_4_4_gkanwal.pdf
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Misunderstood Middle Eastern group in spotlight
Springfield resident will speak about the culture of Sikh families.


http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/ ... 56955.html
SPRINGFIELD — When men from the Middle East come to America, they often leave their turbans in their bags. But Sikh men, from India, keep theirs on.The tradition has drawn a lot of misunderstanding in America, said Jagdish Singh, who will speak about this and other ways of life for Sikh people as part of Wittenberg University’s continuing Global Education speaker series, now in its 10th year.Her talk will be at 6:30 p.m. Thursday in room 105 of the Shouvlin Center, next to the university’s student center.“If you have a neighbor who’s different from you, you might like to befriend that neighbor and know their culture, and celebrate with them,” Singh said.Maybe a dozen Sikh families live in Springfield, Singh said — including she and her husband, who have lived here 30 years. She has two masters’ degrees, one in physics and the other in computer engineering, has worked for IBM and has been a full-time volunteer while raising her children.“It’s an honor to be able to talk about my religion, my culture,” Singh said, “and let people know that we are very peace-loving. Even in Sikh history, it’s known we will fight for other peoples’ rights. We will not stop defending when other people need help, no matter what religion they belong to
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More antiquities discovered in Taxila
The most remarkable discovery is an iron nail and animal bones which opened two new chapters in the history of Gandhara. One is that these people knew the use of different metals and the second rejected the notion that the followers of Buddhism at that time were only vegetarian,” said Dr Khan while talking to this correspondent here on Sunday.He said the discovery of animal bones at a deep surface and at the kitchen area was a proof that the monks and followers of Buddhism at that time were not vegetarians. “This will need rewriting of the history of Taxila in the light of the new and substantial evidence.” Dr Khan said the discovery of the iron nail revealed the craftsmanship of the people living in the area between the first century and 4th century AD and their knowledge and utilisation of different metals. He said the other discoveries, including a lamp, terracotta and beads and kitchen pots, belonged to the Kushan period.During the excavations, as many as 55 monk cells were also discovered, he said, adding in the previous excavations such a huge quantity of cells was never discovered in Taxila valley. He said the monastery where the discoveries were made comprised 280 metres area and so far only 80 metres area has been excavated while the remaining was still being unexcavated. Dr Khan said the main water tank area would also be excavated during the current season while during the next session the stupa would be excavated and preserved.Dr Khan said TIAC had earlier carried out excavation at the site in July 2011 during which an assembly hall, a cooking area, stores as well as steward areas had been discovered along with a significant amount of antiquities.
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PS: Posting it here as there is no thread for BRICS.


Delhi could be a turning point
India hosts scores of international conferences every year and nine out of ten do not get even a passing mention in the international press. But the BRICS summit that concluded on March 29 broke the mould. In just two days, March 29 and 30, it was reported in no fewer than 624 major newspapers and TV newscasts around the world. What brought about this sudden change of heart? The short answer is that the international media have sensed a challenge to the two-century-old hegemony of the West over the modern, increasingly interdependent, world.
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darshhan wrote:5 million to 1 crore strong army. Sounds good but who will pay for their salaries and pensions ? Welcome to 21st century.What we need is Unmanned assets backed by robust AI research.

Check this link by Gurmeet Kanwal wrt increasing manpower costs of Indian Military

http://idsa.in/system/files/jds_4_4_gkanwal.pdf
Can be done just cut MGNREGA.
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ShauryaT wrote:
darshhan wrote:5 million to 1 crore strong army. Sounds good but who will pay for their salaries and pensions ?
Can be done just cut MGNREGA.
No need to cut NREGA, rather expand NREGA to cover military service. Bonus is that more people will get trained in secular methods.
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APJ Kalam is being propped by SP for President. No word from Kalam yet.
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Altair wrote:APJ Kalam is being propped by SP for President. No word from Kalam yet.
subramanian swamy once said that Kalam prevented Sonia from being a PM on the basis of foreign origin thingy..
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He said the discovery of animal bones at a deep surface and at the kitchen area was a proof that the monks and followers of Buddhism at that time were not vegetarians.
There is some sort of penchant amongst Paki's to prove that Dharmics of yore were hard core non vegetarians. Animals were always a part of households for milk, cheese, butter, makhan, ghee. When Taxila was destroyed the ruins were pretty much there. Animals would have grazed, died there too. Look at recent abandoned ruins anywhere. They are very much above ground and animals grazing within it's abandoned precincts. It would take another 100-200 years of abandonment where the top soils start getting covered up along with any dead animal. Within 500 years the bones of the animal could be considered along with time of destruction. What is also wrong in considering that the hordes who beheaded the monks and ravaged Taxila didn't throw in animal bones and blood to shock the vegetarian monks..this happens even today. Compassion for all living things ran strongly in the evolved Dharmics of that time. There is a lot of doctrinal evidence towards that too. So i'll take the Paki archaeologists views with a massive pinch of salt.
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gakakkad wrote:
Altair wrote:APJ Kalam is being propped by SP for President. No word from Kalam yet.
subramanian swamy once said that Kalam prevented Sonia from being a PM on the basis of foreign origin thingy..
Glad to know a patriot and true son of the Nation served as the First citizen.
India had abnormal share of traitors at the throne since the the time of Chandragupta and even earlier.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 79820.html
Indian Firm Seeks to Book the Plaza
An Indian conglomerate has made an unsolicited $600 million offer to acquire the storied Plaza Hotel in New York, but the deal would need approval of two owners: an Israeli-owned holding company and a Saudi Arabian prince.Sahara India Pariwar Ltd., which bought London's high-profile Grosvenor House hotel in 2010, made the offer to Israeli-owned El Ad U.S. Holding Inc., according to people familiar with the matter. El Ad is examining the proposal, these people said. But, as of Monday, El Ad executives had yet to discuss the offer at length with their partner in the hotel, Kingdom Holding Co
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ShauryaT wrote:
darshhan wrote:5 million to 1 crore strong army. Sounds good but who will pay for their salaries and pensions ? Welcome to 21st century.What we need is Unmanned assets backed by robust AI research.

Check this link by Gurmeet Kanwal wrt increasing manpower costs of Indian Military

http://idsa.in/system/files/jds_4_4_gkanwal.pdf
Can be done just cut MGNREGA.
ShauryaT ji , Yes it probably can be done(with or without NREGA) if by soldier one means world war 2 kind of soldier with nothing but a uniform,rifle and a water canteen.Unfortunately today the costs of outfitting , training and deploying a fully ready soldier are comparatively much higher and continuously mounting.Add to this their salaries and pensions.Even if you cut NREGA , it is very difficult to sustain the numbers that are being peddled here( 5 million +).

What could be done and indeed should be done , is to grant Right to Keep and Bear Arms to the common citizenry apart from allowing private training institutes to flourish. Along with this measure Territorial Army can be expanded( to the extent it is possible) . This will ensure that huge pool of citizens(those who have the ability) is ready to assist the nation in times of need. This also alleviates the need for keeping a Huge permanent army and the associated costs.

Meanwhile it is imperative that our Armed Forces take the lead in developing and deploying unmanned assets(Air,Land,water and underwater) along with developing suitable doctrines to influence the course of future battles. Research in Artificial Intelligence will be critical in order to achieve the above objectives.
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Darshan Ji: My comment was partly in jest. I have been bitching about the lack of funds for military modernization, expansion or ANY seriousness by this MMS led government, who I consider to be the weakest PM in history and the most corrupt and inept administration we have seen. It has squandered the future of the Indian people - save for small mercies such as the efforts of hard working Indian population in the private sector.
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^^ Agreed . These are trying times for our nation. But the corruption and Incompetence of Congress govt led by MMS is still not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that Indian People have lost their pride and have very less faith in their own capabilities. Once we regain our pride Congis/antinationals will fall by the wayside.
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The disappearance and the cover-up

Views from the Right
Weak State

The former prime minister Indira Gandhi’s decision to not yield to Kashmir terrorists in 1984 and proceed with the hanging of Maqbool Bhatt was praised by the RSS, as it criticised subsequent Congress and even BJP governments at the Centre and the state for negotiating with terrorists and extremists.

The RSS perspective was articulated in an editorial in the Organiser, in the context of the Orissa government’s offer to free 27 Maoist prisoners in various jails for the safe return of Italian hostage Paolo Basusco and BJD MLA Jhina Hikaka.

Criticising the Orissa government’s decision, the RSS maintains that there must be a “well thought-out strategy” to convey that “India is not a weak state where anyone with a few bullets can take the nation to ransom”.

Whether when negotiating the release of Rubaiya Sayeed in J&K, daughter of then home minister Mufti Mohammed Sayeed who was kidnapped, or then foreign minister Jaswant Singh’s decision to accompany Kashmiri terrorists in 1999 to secure the release of a planeload of Indians, the RSS alleges that there have been few instances when the government has stood its ground. It argues that the majority of kidnapping cases by Maoists have been in Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand, both currently governed by the BJP.

Praising Indira Gandhi, the Organiser says that she was an exception. “Capitulating to the extremist threats and demands is becoming the done thing in India,” the Organiser says, adding that a clear policy on dealing with such situations needs to be evolved.

India’s obama

An article praising Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi in the latest issue of the Organiser makes a case for Modi being given the chance to serve one term as prime minister, saying that “in these trying times, India needs a strong, non-corrupt and efficient leader to hold the country together... Modi is the need of the hour not just for the BJP, but the country as a whole, which is close to bursting at the seams due to pressure from its teeming millions on its infrastructure and civic services”.

The article suggests that Modi be declared the BJP’s prime ministerial candidate now, so that he can win in the Gujarat assembly elections scheduled early next year. “Projecting Modi as the candidate would give the party an ideal opportunity to counter the allegations that it is the party of traders and upper caste communities. The other parties would find it difficult to attack Modi the way it does now, as it could be interpreted as an attack on a member of the backward class,” claims the article.

The article, however, states that Modi has had little support from his own party, especially while battling the perception war in the media. “Modi has had little support from his own party, except for some braveheart senoritas who take up the cudgels for him on television talk shows. The BJP and their allies would have to back him to the hilt, if he is to emerge as a credible candidate,” it says. The article argues that Modi has carried Muslims, Hindus and members from other communities in Gujarat with him, and his ability to do this nationally should not be doubted. It contends that the Indian electorate would reject him if he does not deliver or if he shows that he is divisive.

“He can be the Obama of Indian politics. But it is for the party to project this factor as Modi as a true statesman has never tried to cash in on the same and would probably never will,” the article says.

CIVIL-MILITARY DIVIDE

The Panchjanya has targeted the media over the recent controversy relating to the army chief and the armed forces.

An editorial in the latest issue argues that the manner in which the conflict between the army chief and the government was projected, the leak of the army chief’s letter to the PM and the attribution of a political motive to a routine army exercise were unfortunate and went against the interests of the nation. “The Indian army is one of the best armies in the world. It is this army which defeated Pakistan four times. It also fought valiantly against China and lost not because of any inadequacies but because of lack of farsightedness and faulty military strategy by our leaders, especially prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru. In every way, the armed forces have served to preserve the unity of the country,” the editorial said.

Contending that the media is in the dock, the Panchjanya alleges that the arms lobby in India has links in the government, and the it considers the army chief to be a hurdle in furthering its interests.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/illit ... rt/935834/
Illiteracy costs India over $53 bn a year: report
Illiteracy is costing Indian economy more than USD 53 billion a year, a report has estimated. According to the report titled 'Economic and Social Cost of Illiteracy' by World Literacy Foundation, illiteracy costs India an estimated USD 53.56 billion. The losses to China are pegged higher at USD 135.60 billion. Russia at USD 28.48 billion and Brazil at USD 27.41 are placed at the third and fourth places respectively. Literates constituted 74 per cent of the total population in India aged seven and above, and illiterates form 26 per cent, as per the provisional data of the 2011 census. The report, which looks at the cost of illiteracy in emerging and developing countries, as well as the cost of functional illiteracy in the developed world, said that illiteracy costs the global economy more than USD 1.19 trillion a year. "800 million people across the world lack the basic reading and writing skills needed to accomplish simple tasks such as reading a medicine label or filling out a job application, costing the global economy more than USD 1.19 trillion a year," the report said. The report said illiterate people earn 30-42 per cent less than their literate counterparts. "We need to treat illiteracy as a disease that we are aiming to eradicate. We need to understand that early intervention can avert a lifetime of hardship, poverty and pain for a child, young person or adult who is struggling to read or write," World Literacy Trust CEO Andrew Kay said. "No matter whether you live in the developed or developing world, poor illiteracy is ruining lives and is linked with an array of poor life outcomes, such as poverty, unemployment, social exclusion, crime and long term illness," he added.
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From the Urdu Press
Zardari’s visit

The daily Inquilab, in a comment on April 10, writes: “There could not have been a very fruitful discussion during Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari’s India visit because it was not official, nor was there any agenda. Therefore, it would not be proper to hazard guesses or harbour doubts about the outcome of the visit...” But, it adds: “as far as our government or Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is concerned, he has proved he has sentiments of cooperation and improvement of relations with Pakistan by playing host to President Zardari even though the controversy between the two countries on 26/11 has not died down. He has always been anxious for friendship and peace and there is no need for the people of Pakistan to be afraid of India.”

Comparing the visits of former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf to Agra and Zardari’s Delhi trip, Rashtriya Sahara on April 9 writes: “The talks between Pervez Mushrraf and Atal Bihari Vajpayee at Agra were held in an atmosphere where both the leaders were at the pinnacle of their power. There was no one to challenge Musharraf in Pakistan and Vajpayee was in total control over the Indian situation. But both the leaders who met at Delhi have to take very measured and cautious steps. Therefore, neither of two would have liked to come out of the talks with a stigma of failure as they knew that failure would result in severe criticism of both the leaders.”

The Delhi-based Hamara Samaj, in its April 11 editorial questions who the real force behind terrorism is and how it can be finished, and answers: “After a lot thinking, one concludes that the real controllers of global terrorism are the US and Israel.” The paper elaborates why it is important to tackle Israel first and how it is “futile to expect action by Pakistan against its terror camps. These camps have been established by the US.”

Haj subsidy

THE Haj subsidy and its removal has provoked much comment. Rashtriya Sahara, in its April 4 editorial writes: “It is a myth that Haj pilgrims are given subsidy (by the Central government). It is not only a lie, but a serious insinuation against Muslims. The basis of this myth is that part of the airfare of the hajis paid to Air India is shared by the government... Hajis selected by a lot cannot travel by any airline except Air India. As Haj approaches, Air India increases its fare steeply. Then, the government, demonstrating great ‘generosity and friendliness with the Muslims’ announces this increase would be paid by the Indian exchequer as a ‘facility’ for the hajis... If the government is really sympathetic to Muslims, particularly to the hajis, why does it not once announce that the hajis selected by a lot can travel on an airline of their choice... Ask any airline and you will know the increase in the Air India fare at the time of Haj is illegitimate.”

The daily Sahafat writes: “The game will be understood by the fact that the people (working in Saudi Arabia) who come to India, get a return ticket for Rs 16,000. Then why this label of favouritism with the hajis despite their playing Rs 25,000-30,000 for the same journey... The Central Haj Committee also does not provide for concession on the fare it takes from the hajis three months before the journey.” Regarding allegations of “favouritism” and “appeasement” to Muslims by sections like the BJP, the paper writes: “Even when the BJP was at the Centre, the Haj subsidy was retained. Therefore, if it is now alleged by the party that the Congress wants to appease Muslims, it is wrong and politically motivated.” Following the statement of the foreign minister S.M. Krishna regarding the proposal to withdraw the subsidy, sections of Muslim leaders and organisations are pleading with the government to instead provide better facilities to the hajis. Such appeals are being published by newspapers.

Govt vs Army

COMMENTING on the situation following The Indian Express report on irregular troop movement, Munsif (April 5) writes: “Even though the report is being contradicted and is being described as absolutely false, yet this sensitive issue cannot be ignored. This report has created a fear in the minds of the people... It is the responsibility of the government to not confine itself to only issuing statements and contradictions, and take practical steps to have better coordination and balance with the army.”

Rashtriya Sahara’s editorial on April 5 says: “This report is not merely extremely surprising (bahot chaunkaane waali) but also adds to existing anxieties... It is a curious coincidence that the army units were called (to Delhi) on the day the army chief, Gen V.K. Singh, was to appear before the Supreme Court for his age controversy. If this coincidence has given rise to whispers amongst people, it is not surprising. (But) the Indian people have full faith in their army. They are also confident that the Indian army, unlike armed forces in some countries the neighbourhood, does not have political ambitions.”
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17699304
India professor held for cartoon 'ridiculing Mamata'
Indian police have arrested a professor in Calcutta for allegedly posting on the internet cartoons ridiculing West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee.Professor Ambikesh Mahapatra teaches chemistry at Jadavpur University. A court released him on bail.Police say he forwarded doctored images of Ms Banerjee, former Railway Minister Dinesh Trivedi, whom she recently sacked, and his replacement Mukul Roy.The cartoon went viral on the social networking site Facebook.Ms Banerjee sacked Mr Trivedi in March for not consulting her before presenting the railway budget, which included small but controversial fare increases.The cartoon is a take on Oscar-winning late Bengali filmmaker Satyajit Ray's film Sonar Kella, or The Golden Fort.t criticises Ms Banerjee's perforHe did not say who these "respectable people" were. Ms Banerjee took over West Bengal last year after 34 years of Communist government The professor has been charged under India's information technology (IT) Act.Prof Mahapatra was also attacked on Thursday night, allegedly by supporters of Ms Banerjee's Trinamool Congress [TMC] party. His fellow professors and intellectuals have condemned his arrest, calling it an attack on free speech.mance as a former railway minister. It also pokes fun at her for sacking Mr Trivedi from the same role.rogatory' Prof Mahapatra was arrested for "spreading derogatory messages against respectable people", said Sujoy Chanda, Deputy Commissioner of Calcutta police
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WTF is this, Why is Penchant for declaring oneself a "BRAHMIN", Rahul Ghandi is doing it, former law minister Karnataka Governor does this these elites seem to be in a different world.

I’m a Brahmin & Congress’s general secretary: Rahul Gandhi to party
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