Bharat Rakshak

The state essentially has, by the way of reservations washed its hands off their well being.

No entity in the whole world is more brutal and incompetent than US.

hmm.....I dont think that superlative statement is valid

My OT response here
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American Universities Infected by Foreign Spies Detected by FBI
By Daniel Golden - Apr 8, 2012 2:00 PM PT


Michigan State University President Lou Anna K. Simon contacted the Central Intelligence Agency in late 2009 with an urgent question.
The school’s campus in Dubai needed a bailout and an unlikely savior had stepped forward: a Dubai-based company that offered to provide money and students.


Russian spy Lidiya Guryeva was pursuing a master's degree in business at Columbia under the name of Cynthia Murphy. Guryeva was arrested for acting as an agent of a foreign power and deported to Russia. Source: U.S. Department of Justice via Bloomberg
Simon was tempted. She also worried that the company, which had investors from Iran and wanted to recruit students from there, might be a front for the Iranian government, she said. If so, an agreement could violate federal trade sanctions and invite enemy spies.

The CIA couldn’t confirm that the company wasn’t an arm of Iran’s government. Simon rejected the offer and shut down undergraduate programs in Dubai, at a loss of $3.7 million.
Hearkening back to Cold War anxieties, growing signs of spying on U.S. universities are alarming national security officials. As schools become more global in their locations and student populations, their culture of openness and international collaboration makes them increasingly vulnerable to theft of research conducted for the government and industry.

“We have intelligence and cases indicating that U.S. universities are indeed a target of foreign intelligence services,” Frank Figliuzzi, Federal Bureau of Investigation assistant director for counterintelligence, said in a February interview in the bureau’s Washington headquarters.
‘Academic Solicitation’
While overshadowed by espionage against corporations, efforts by foreign countries to penetrate universities have increased in the past five years, Figliuzzi said. The FBI and academia, which have often been at loggerheads, are working together to combat the threat, he said.

Attempts by countries in East Asia, including China, to obtain classified or proprietary information by “academic solicitation,” such as requests to review academic papers or study with professors, jumped eightfold in 2010 from a year earlier, according to a 2011 U.S. Defense Department report. Such approaches from the Middle East doubled, it said.
“Placing academics at U.S. research institutions under the guise of legitimate research offers access to developing U.S. technologies and cutting-edge research” in such areas as information systems, lasers, aeronautics and underwater robots, the report said.
World-Class Talent
Welcoming world-class talent to American universities helps the U.S. sustain global supremacy in science and technology, said University of Maryland President Wallace Loh. He chairs the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s academic advisory council, which held its first meeting March 20 and is expected to address such topics as federal tracking of international students.
Foreign countries “can never become competitive by stealing,” he said. “Once you exhaust that technology, you have to start developing the next generation.”
Foreigners on temporary visas made up 46 percent of science and engineering graduate students at Georgia Institute of Technology and Michigan State and 41 percent at Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 2009, according to a federal survey. China sent 76,830 graduate students to U.S. universities in 2010-2011, more than any other country and up almost 16 percent from the prior year, according to the Institute of International Education in New York.
Finding Recruits
While most international students, researchers and professors come to the U.S. for legitimate reasons, universities are an “ideal place” for foreign intelligence services “to find recruits, propose and nurture ideas, learn and even steal research data, or place trainees,” according to a 2011 FBI report.

In Democracy in America, published in 1835, Tocqueville wrote of the New World and its burgeoning democratic order. Observing from the perspective of a detached social scientist, Tocqueville wrote of his travels through America in the early 19th century when the market revolution, Western expansion, and Jacksonian democracy were radically transforming the fabric of American life. One purpose of writing Democracy in America, according to Joshua Kaplan, was to help the people of France get a better understanding of their position between a fading aristocratic order and an emerging democratic order, and to help them sort out the confusion.[2] Tocqueville saw democracy as an equation that balanced liberty and equality, concern for the individual as well as the community. Tocqueville's impressions of American religion and its relationship to the broader national culture are likewise notable:
"Moreover, almost all the sects of the United States are comprised within the great unity of Christianity, and Christian morality is everywhere the same. In the United States the sovereign authority is religious, and consequently hypocrisy must be common; but there is no country in the whole world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof of its utility, and of its conformity to human nature, than that its influence is most powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth.
The Americans combine the notions of Christianity and of liberty so intimately in their minds, that it is impossible to make them conceive the one without the other; and with them this conviction does not spring from that barren traditionary faith which seems to vegetate in the soul rather than to live.
There are certain populations in Europe whose unbelief is only equaled by their ignorance and their debasement, while in America one of the freest and most enlightened nations in the world fulfills all the outward duties of religion with fervor.
Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention; and the longer I stayed there, the more did I perceive the great political consequences resulting from this state of things, to which I was unaccustomed. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom pursuing courses diametrically opposed to each other; but in America I found that they were intimately united, and that they reigned in common over the same country."
Source: Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, (New York: A. S. Barnes & Co., 1851), pp. 331, 332, 335, 336-7, 337, respectively.
Tocqueville saw equality as an emerging and unstoppable force in modern life.[2] He wrote of "Political Consequences of the Social State of the Anglo-Americans" by saying "But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom".[17] He further comments on equality by saying "Furthermore, when citizens are all almost equal, it becomes difficult for them to defend their independence against the aggressions of power. As none of them is strong enough to fight alone with advantage, the only guarantee of liberty is for everyone to combine forces. But such a combination is not always in evidence."[18] The above is often misquoted as a slavery quote due to previous translations of the French text. The most recent translation from Arthur Goldhammer in 2004 translates the meaning to be as stated above. Examples of misquoted sources are numerous on the internet;[19] the actual text does not contain the words "Americans were so enamored by equality" anywhere in the text.

The Reason Rally: A Celebration of Secular values
What is the Reason Rally?
The Reason Rally is a movement-wide event sponsored by the country’s major secular organizations. The intent is to unify, energize, and embolden secular people nationwide, while dispelling the negative opinions held by so much of American society… and having a damn good time doing it!
It will be the largest secular event in world history. There will be music, comedy, great speakers, and lots of fun… and it’s free!
Sign language interpreters will be available for the deaf and hard-of-hearing. Also, there will be a viewing area on the Mall designated for people in wheelchairs.
The Reason Rally is being produced and run by the Reason Rally Coalition, a 501(c)(3) organization whose board consist of all the sponsoring organizations. There are two levels of sponsorship, the higher of which (8 organizations) will share equally in any profits generated by the event. In other words, your support benefits the movement on the whole, as well as the organizations that contributed the most to this free event.

What do you hope to achieve from this Rally?
We have three main goals:
To encourage attendees (and those who can’t make it) to come out of the closet as secular Americans, or supporters of secular equality.
To dispel stereotypes – there is no one “True Atheist”. We will have non-theists from all political persuasions, ethnicities, genders, and backgrounds. We will show that there are secular Americans in every American demographic.
Legislative equality. Secular Americans can run for office and adequately represent theists, just as theists in office can represent their secular constituents proudly and openly. We deserve a seat at the table just like theists, and we hope this rally can put our values in the radar of American voters.

ew Survey: Majority of Americans Do Not Believe Religious Liberty is Under Attack

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Among Those Who Believe Religious Liberty is Threatened, Only 6 Percent Cite Contraceptive Coverage Controversy as Reason

Washington, DC— On the heels of a months-long heated debate on religious liberty, a new national survey finds that a majority (56%) of Americans do NOT believe that the right of religious liberty is being threatened in America today. Roughly 4-in-10 (39%) believe religious liberty is under attack.

The new PRRI-RNS Religion News Survey, conducted by Public Religion Research Institute in partnership with Religion News Service, allowed those who said religious liberty is under attack to explain in their own words why they felt the right of religious liberty is being threatened. Despite the recent heavy media focus on contraceptive coverage in the religious liberty debate, only 6% cited the contraception mandate issue. The most frequently cited reasons were perceptions that religion was being removed from the public square (23%) or that government was interfering with religion (20%).

“Some religious leaders, most prominently Catholic officials, have attempted to define the debate on the Obama administration’s contraceptive coverage mandate as a question of religious liberty, but most Americans do not believe religious liberty is under attack today,” said Dr. Robert P. Jones, PRRI CEO. “Nearly 6-in-10 Catholics do not believe that religious liberty is being threatened. The only religious group in which a majority believes religious liberty is being threatened in America today is evangelicals.”

Among the Findings:

Most (56%) Americans do not believe that the right of religious liberty is being threatened in America today. However, nearly 4-in-10 (39%) believe that religious liberty is threatened today.
- Majorities of Tea Party members (72%) Republicans (60%), and seniors (56%) believe that religious liberty is being threatened. White evangelical Protestants (61%) are the only major religious group that believes religious liberty is threatened in America today.
- On the other hand, majorities of Democrats (69%), Independents (58%), and Millennials (73%) do not believe that religious liberty is being threatened today. Majorities of Catholics, minority Protestants, white mainline Protestants and the unaffiliated also do not believe the religious liberty is being threatened in America today.
- When Americans who believe that religious liberty is being threatened today were asked to explain in their own words how religious liberty is being threatened, only 6% mention the recent debate around the contraception coverage mandate. The most frequently mentioned reasons are the removal or God and religion from the public square (23%), government interference in religion (20%), and hostility toward Christians or religion (10%).

With the single exception of churches or other places of worship, majorities of Americans believe that other types of employers should be required to provide their employees with health care plans that cover contraception at no cost. However, there is more agreement about this requirement for some types of employers than others.
- Roughly 6-in-10 Americans say that publicly held corporations (62%) and religiously affiliated hospitals (57%) should be required to provide employees with health care plans that cover contraception. A slim majority of Americans believe that religiously affiliated colleges (54%), privately owned small businesses (53%), and religiously affiliated social service agencies (52%) should be required to provide employees with health care plans that cover contraception.
- About 4-in-10 (42%) Americans say churches and other places of worship should be required to provide this coverage to their employees.

More than 6-in-10 (63%) Americans say that religiously affiliated agencies that receive federal funding should not be able to refuse to place children with qualified gay and lesbian couples. About one-third of Americans say agencies that receive taxpayer money should be able to refuse.

A slim majority (52%) of Americans favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry, and 44% oppose. The survey also found religious liberty concerns were active among a subset of those who oppose same-sex marriage. When Americans who initially oppose same-sex marriage are asked whether they would support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry if the law guaranteed that no church or congregation would be required to perform marriages for gay and lesbian couples, support for allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry increases 6 points, from 52% to 58%.

The link that you gave `proving` violations of human rights in Kashmir is pure propaganda. It has such names as Kamal Mitra Chenoy linked to Fai(ISI) and PUCL which is a cover for the maoists.Regards

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. How come GOI is still letting them operate then?

Once again this has nothing to do with India US strategic discussion. This time I am reporting your post. Your question may merit discussion, but this is the wrong thread.

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sharing the link for the petition one more time. to lurkers and forum members, please do sign, those who are interested.
8 days left and the petition still needs 10000+ signatures.

India bashing on this right wing think tank's panel discussion.

Key points
1. Iran
2. Nuclear liability bill
3. Policy paralysis of UPA govt.
4. UNSC votes

Is the U.S.-India Relationship Oversold?

Folks, Garooda is a new person and might not be aware of the BRF norms. So cut him some slack. We all were new one time.
Garooda garu, Please observe and learn.
Thanks ramana

Same think-tank that employs Sadanand Dhume. Constantly battering India for playing hard-to-get.

What I say is 9/11, Iraq war, 2008 meltdown, rise of PRC and India have brought two other powers into play and shuffled the deck with WE and Japan having lower weight.

'Haan sir...Yes Sir...Ji Sir...I agree...You are right...Aap bahut mahaan hai...Aap bahut intelligent hai' for the most part

Same think-tank that employs Sadanand Dhume. Constantly battering India for playing hard-to-get.

It is my personal opinion (I have more opinions than orifices) that the relationship that the US values most from all other nations is exactly one in which other nations are kowtowing to the US and saying "Aap bahut mahaan hai" . If this was the relationship that India maintained with the US there might be less friction.

I have found it curious that some Indians over the years have also "expressed opinions" that suggest that india should take the US's hand and follow the US's lead. The reason given is that the US leads and others follow. I disagree with the suggestion that India should follow the US lead. In fact I believe that the US should follow India's suggestions and India's lead in some areas.

Carl, the India-bashing in that video discussion is led by George Perkovitch... an inveterate foe of India in US Foreign policymaking circles. Other participants, including Daniel Twining, speak up for India's strategic autonomy to the extent they can (as American think-tankers) be expected to.

I do believe India and Turkey were tasked with negotiations with Iran and the existing Nuclear Issue initiated by the West.

It is my personal opinion (I have more opinions than orifices) that the relationship that the US values most from all other nations is exactly one in which other nations are kowtowing to the US and saying "Aap bahut mahaan hai" . If this was the relationship that India maintained with the US there might be less friction.

I have found it curious that some Indians over the years have also "expressed opinions" that suggest that india should take the US's hand and follow the US's lead. The reason given is that the US leads and others follow. I disagree with the suggestion that India should follow the US lead. In fact I believe that the US should follow India's suggestions and India's lead in some areas.

shiv, for what it is worth I believe that the most logical, best-case next incarnation for the US would be as a fully-owned subsidiary of India. Everything else is an evolutionary dead end. It'll take a lot for the US to swallow this reality, but before we get there Indians need to buy into it first.

Who the hell is the west to task India with something , hain ji ?

shiv, for what it is worth I believe that the most logical, best-case next incarnation for the US would be as a fully-owned subsidiary of India. Everything else is an evolutionary dead end. It'll take a lot for the US to swallow this reality, but before we get there Indians need to buy into it first.