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Religion of peace showing it's true colours in Jammu division this time. Was it even reported in national media ? Only if the Muslims had been on the receiving end, the news channels and papers would have been full of news explaining atrocities of fanatic Hindus on defenceless peaceful muslims. :evil:
Things cooled down a bit only because the Hindus in Rajouri are not a minuscule minority and are better organised unlike Kashmiri pandits.


Tension flares up after lathicharge, teargas on procession
Curfew again imposed in Rajouri; cops, women among several injured
JAMMU, Mar 15: Curfew was re-imposed in Rajouri town and outskirts this afternoon after a procession being taken out by the minorities to protest delay in arrest of miscreants involved in attack on religious Bhairav procession on March 6 and 7 was canecharged and teargassed by the police personnel, who tried to stop it from marching towards Rajouri Police Post.



Police said Shafkat Wani, a resident of Ward No. 8, Rajouri, one of the prime accused in attack on the religious procession, was arrested this afternoon. A case had already been registered against him. The minorities were demanding arrest of all 17 accused from majority community, who had instigated the mob and attacked Bhairav processions on March 6 and 7 during Holi festival in Rajouri town, leading to imposition of curfew.

Trouble erupted when a peaceful procession being taken out by the minorities under the aegis of Sanatan Dharam Sabha comprising a number of women was stopped by the police personnel from marching towards Rajouri Police Post. The people said they should be allowed to protest peacefully demanding arrest of the miscreants from majority community, who were involved in attacking religious Bhairav procession twice on March 6 and 7.

However, the police personnel started lathicharge on the procession to disperse them for defying Section 144, which was in force in the town after curfew was completely lifted yesterday.

The mob turned violent and subjected cops to heavy stone pelting for unprovoked lathicharge on the procession. Exchange of stoning and teargas continued for about half an hour. Police fired several teargas shells to disperse the crowd including the women.

A number of women sustained minor injuries in lathicharge and teargassing. Sources said nearly a dozen women sustained injuries but they didn’t require hospitalization. Initially, the women were leading the procession but it was taken over by the male members of minorities when police personnel started lathicharge and teargassing.

A number of vehicles were damaged in stoning and lathicharge.

Angry over police lathicharge and teargassing on police personnel, the mob also resorted to heavy stone pelting on the cops causing injuries to seven of them. Injured cops were admitted in District Hospital, Rajouri from where one of them, Chaman Lal, a resident of Udhampur, was airlifted to Jammu in the evening in view of head injury. His condition was stated to be serious while other injured were responding to the treatment. Two more injured cops were shifted to GMC Jammu by road.

Local people alleged that cops went berserk, entered into the houses of minorities, beat-up men, women and children and damaged houses and vehicles after the stoning.

Deputy Commissioner, GA Khwaja announced imposition of curfew in entire Rajouri town and outskirts to prevent any further outbreak of violence. Police and para-military personnel were deployed in strength in entire town and outskirts to keep the people indoors.

Mike fitted vehicles moved out in Rajouri town announcing imposition of curfew at about 2 pm and asking people to stay indoors. Curfew was strictly implemented till situation returned to normal, Mr Khwaja said, adding that curfew was relaxed in eastern part of Rajouri town from 6 pm to 8 pm where normalcy prevailed. In rest of the town, no relaxation was given.

Police said Shafkat Wani, one of the main accused in the attack on Bhairav processions, has been arrested. The minorities were insisting on arrest of all 17 accused, who have been identified for attacking annual Bhairav procession twice in the town on March 6 and 7 during Holi festival.

The minorities have refused to open their shops even during curfew relaxation demanding immediate arrest of the accused. They have announced that their shops will remain closed till all accused were arrested and put behind the bars with registration of cases against them.




Curfew was imposed in Rajouri town on March 7 after attack on Bhairav procession. Day curfew was lifted on March 13 while night curfew was also lifted yesterday. Only Section 144 was in force in the town.



Some vehicles parked on road side and other complexes were also damaged by some of the cops. Police, however, denied the charge the cops damaged the vehicles.


Curfew reimposed in Rajouri, 7 injured in clashes,stone-pelting
JAMMU: Curfew was reimposed today in the border district of Rajouri in Kashmir after six cops among seven people were injured in stone-pelting and cane charge.

The prohibitory orders were imposed by the authority from this afternoon after the incident occurred when a group of people defied restrictions and took out an anti-government procession in the border town.

In view of imposition of Section 144, police prevented the processionists, including women belonging to a particular community, proceeding from Sanatan Dharam Sabha.

The over 300 people in the procession were demanding release of the arrested 17 members of the community and harassment of SDS leaders by the police and administration.


Saner elements prevail over miscreants to restore normalcy in Rajouri town
RAJOURI, Mar 18: Peace and normalcy that prevailed in Rajouri town today after more than 10 days of turmoil leading to imposition of curfew and registration of several First Information Reports (FIRs) wouldn’t have been possible had the saner elements in both the communities not prevailed upon the people and motivated them to reach into an agreement with the Group of Ministers (GoMs) to maintain centuries old bond of mutual brotherhood. Authoritative sources told the Excelsior that veteran leaders of majority community, which is in minority in the country, played the role of elder brother and had to sacrifice a lot for paving the way for agreement between the GoM and representatives of minority community yesterday to ensure return of peace and normalcy in the sensitive border town of this district as the tensions had been threatening to spread elsewhere in Jammu region if not controlled immediately. "The majority community facilitated the agreement between leaders of minority community and the GoM. Leaders from majority community too had a list of their demands and grievances but they didn’t press for them in the meeting with the GoM as they didn’t want to keep Rajouri disturbed any more’’, they said.
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^^ This is what our secular stalwart CM of J&K said about the incident:
Mr. Abdullah said he was facing a situation where “the BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal and others [were] itching to inflame passions. So, I have no regrets about the decision to stay in Jammu.”
So, it was evil hindoo minorities( and their saffron hindutva based parties) onlee who were disturbing peace and harassing the innocent majority causing CM-ji to also to miss his appointees and tweet about it.
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sum wrote:^^ This is what our secular stalwart CM of J&K said about the incident:
Mr. Abdullah said he was facing a situation where “the BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal and others [were] itching to inflame passions. So, I have no regrets about the decision to stay in Jammu.”
So, it was evil hindoo minorities( and their saffron hindutva based parties) onlee who were disturbing peace and harassing the innocent majority causing CM-ji to also to miss his appointees and tweet about it.
Is this not supposed to be communal as it is anti-minority? As usual the pseudos are silent.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 369930.cms

Car bomb blast on Jammu-Srinagar highway. Death toll 1, expected to rise.
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Could be malfunction bomb in a car? Or suicide attack?

Most likely the guy was on way to Srinagar and halted for rest. The timer went off?
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Militancy dropped by 50% in first three months of 2012: J&K Police bit.ly/GNO3mL
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ramana wrote:Could be malfunction bomb in a car? Or suicide attack? Most likely the guy was on way to Srinagar and halted for rest. The timer went off?
Premature bomjaculation? Allah knows best.
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living in Cashmere, rooting for pakistan. Gets courted by Indian newspapers to explain why she isn't Indian

http://twitter.com/#!/imsabbah/media/sl ... m%2F8bs7nl
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From The Indian Express
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Five LeT men killed in encounter
The Lashkar-e-Tayyeba (LeT) received a major blow when security forces shot dead five of its cadre, including a Pakistani commander, during fierce encounters in Handwara pocket of Kupwara district in Kashmir on Wednesday.

Police said the terrorists were not fresh infiltrators; the forces had been on their lookout for quite some time.

Official sources said troops of 21 Rashtriya Rifles, Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and J&K Police cordoned off Panjwani forests and village Laribal in Zachaldara pocket. “The cordon and search operation became an encounter, in which three militants were killed in Panjwani forests and two in Peer Mohalla Laribal,” said a police spokesman.

Sources said all five were holed up in a house but when security forces zeroed in on it following a tip-off, three militants fled towards a nearby forested area. They were killed after a chase. Two were also shot dead inside their hideout, which was mortar shelled. :D
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Tribune, Chandigarh reports

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The dark side of fairer sex in Jammu & Kashmir
Arteev Sharma/TNS

Jammu, March 26
Women are supposed to be the worst sufferers in trouble-torn Jammu and Kashmir, but the crime figures in the state paint a different picture.

As many as 2,177 women have been booked or arrested on charges of outraging modesty of other women, abetting rape, murder, attempt to murder, rioting, drug peddling and burglary during the past two years. Of them, 2,114 were booked under the Ranbir Penal Code, while 63 were arrested under various local and special laws.

Three women, including two foreigners, were detained under the Public Safety Act (PSA). Shockingly, 279 women (68 in Kashmir and 211 in Jammu) arrested for various offences are in the age group of 46 and above.

“As many as 633 women, including four from Pakistan, were arrested over the past two years in Kashmir valley while the number of women arrested in the Jammu region for the same period stood at 1,544, including four Burmese nationals,” Chief Minister Omar Abdullah told the state Legislative Assembly in a written reply to a question by PDP legislator Shafi Ahmed Wani today.

Omar, who also holds the charge of the Home Department, said 133 women (61 in 2010 and 72 in 2011) were arrested for outraging the modesty of other women. “The number of women involved in abetment to rape cases was 15 in the past two years,” he said. :?:

The number of women arrested on murder charge during the same stood at 55 (28 in 2010 and 27 in 2011), while 48 others were arrested for abetting kidnappings and abductions, 122 (73 in 2010 and 49 in 2011) for involvement in stabbing cases, and 52 for involvement in burglary and theft cases.

“Eleven women were arrested for the criminal breach of trust while 405 were involved in rioting. Fifteen women were arrested for doing obscene acts in public,” Omar said.
There is a table in the link.

I think these women are accomplices to terrorists and breaking down the stats like Omar has doen does not give a complete picture.
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ramana ji,
could be more complex than that. Note that figures for Jammu are more than double for the valley. Cannot be quote dhere - but data shows a greater incidence of FonF attempts within certain communities - throughout the world. Usually the older and family-dominant lady does it on new entrants or weaker females in the hierarchy. Has been connected to denial of s.

Also they could be either arresting more based on religious profiling [hence Jammu >> KV] or KV goes massively underreported - which is more likely.
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"living in Cashmere, rooting for pakistan. Gets courted by Indian newspapers to explain why she isn't Indian

http://twitter.com/#!/imsabbah/media/sl ... m%2F8bs7nl"

Sorry Hiten, I only saw the apolitical, cultural,social stuff. Where is the section that shows she's rooting for Pakistan( and why does she..) and isn't Indian.
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UN seeks AFSPA repeal in Kashmir
A week after New Delhi supported a United Nations Human Rights Council resolution censuring Sri Lanka for its armed forces atrocities during the conflict with the LTTE, a Special Rapporteur of the international organisation concluded that extra-judicial killings take place in India too.
After a rare 12-day visit to India’s trouble-spots like Kashmir and Manipur, UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary Executions, Christof Heyns, urged New Delhi to repeal the controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act. He also recommended that the Government should set up a “credible Commission of Inquiry” to probe the extra-judicial killings.
Heyns is likely to submit his report to the UNHRC. Though it is unlikely to cause big embarrassment for India at the UNHRC, it may put New Delhi at unease during the council’s next session in early 2013.
Blow back to India.
Read this also in SL thread- http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 2#p1262802
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US District Attorney Neil H MacBride has claimed before the US District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, that the Mohammadden cleric Mirwaiz Umer Farooq is "supported and controlled" by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Intelligence Agency the ISI aka ISID :

Mirwaiz Farooq 'controlled' by ISI, claims US Attorney
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brihaspati wrote:ramana ji,
could be more complex than that. Note that figures for Jammu are more than double for the valley. Cannot be quote dhere - but data shows a greater incidence of FonF attempts within certain communities - throughout the world. Usually the older and family-dominant lady does it on new entrants or weaker females in the hierarchy. Has been connected to denial of s.

Also they could be either arresting more based on religious profiling [hence Jammu >> KV] or KV goes massively underreported - which is more likely.

More rottenenss in J&K due to terrorism:

http://www.newsinsight.net/archivedebat ... recno=2278
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http://www.project-syndicate.org/commen ... n-kashmir-
Peace in Kashmir?
Shashi Tharoor

( Read it all as they have copy right issue)
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Varoon Shekhar wrote: Sorry Hiten, I only saw the apolitical, cultural,social stuff. Where is the section that shows she's rooting for Pakistan( and why does she..) and isn't Indian.
a closer look at the T-Shirt, perhaps, would reveal who the lady was rooting for during the India-pak Asia Cup match

As for professing her love for India
I am now 28. Even today, each time I have to fill a form asking for my 'nationality', I hesitate before eventually writing 'Indian'</b>. That's about 20 years of hesitating over the same point

Somewhere between infancy and childhood, I had picked up unwittingly on what most of my family and people felt. Just like that it was part of me.

Here's the thing: I don't think of myself as an Indian.....

.....You can't make me feel Indian.

I have never been to Pakistan though I'd love to visit. I love their cricket team


The only place most Kashmiris can naturally come out to for studying or working is mainland India. So please don't make us justify that if we are so against India why do we come here. It's the same as asking me why I have an Indian passport. If there was an alternative I would probably take it.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage ... 99030.aspx

What strikes me a particularly dangerous is the fact that the woman runs a school. What kind of social values is she imparting to the scores of students who're spending the formative years of their lives under her tutelage? While she tweets to the effect <i>'Look, I'm so kwel'</i>, & would may even be feted as the moderate, progressive face of Kashmir, her allegiances & motivations clearly mark her as a person who can do no good.

In an ideal world, the lady wouldn't have been able to abuse her position to distort children's outlook
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http://www.newageislam.com/the-war-with ... lam/d/6931

Salafi - Barelvi fight on the cards
By Riyaz Wani

Vol. 9, Issue 13, Dated 31 Mar 2012

Wahhabis. Deobandis. Tablighi Jamaat. Orthodox outfits have been turning the Valley into a bastion of puritanical Islam. But the Sufis are fighting back to regain their moorings.

A COLOURFUL procession stretched a mile long along the picturesque Dal Lake. A truck carrying preachers in green turbans was followed by thousands of faithfuls waving green flags. Some people were busy at makeshift kitchens on the roadside where tehri (turmeric-dyed rice), salt tea and kehwa were served to the devotees.

The occasion was not a political rally but the celebration of Eid Milad (Prophet’s birthday) on 12 February. Organised by Minhajul Islam, a newly-floated Barelvi outfit, the procession was a not-so-veiled attempt to reassert the Valley’s Sufi tradition and reclaim the religious space ceded to the conservative Wahhabi Islam. It was the first time in the past two decades that the festival attracted such a massive crowd — estimated to be around 1 Lakh people.

Similar events were held at shrines housing the Prophet’s relics. Bazaars and government offices were lit up, adding to the festive air. Understandably, this uninhibited display of festivities didn’t go down well with the adherents of puritanical Islam, who want celebrations to be “austere and exclusively devoted to worship”.

Over the past two decades, the orthodox Deobandi Islam has spread through an extensive network of madrasas, followed by the Wahhabi Islam propagated by the Jamiat Ahle Hadith (JAH). Together, they have gone a long way in reshaping the Valley’s religious landscape.

The JAH owns around 700 mosques, 150 schools and claims a membership of 15 Lakh people, which has made it an influential entity even though it doesn’t indulge in any demonstrative political activity.

It is between these religious traditions — antithetical in their stance on Islam — that Kashmir is getting inexorably split. Even though the conflict is not yet out in the open, the two religious sects are busy building up their mutually exclusive domains that don’t see eye to eye.

It is a battle for the soul of Kashmir between the Valley’s Sufi moorings and its newfound fascination with a mix of Deobandi and Wahhabi Islam.

After having a free run in the Valley for the past two decades, conservative Islam, which saw its influence rise with the growth of the separatist movement, is confronted with a sudden proliferation of Barelvi outfits. In the past four years, several Barelvi organisations claiming to be the custodians of Kashmir’s Sufi moorings have sprung up to challenge the growing power of the Wahhabi faith.

With 700 mosques and 150 Darul Ulooms, the Wahhabis have entrenched themselves deeply in the Valley

“We are here to resurrect Sufi Islam,” says Minhajul Islam Chief Maulana Mohiudin Naqeeb, who thinks Wahhabism is primarily a political strain of Islam. “It is the Sufis who brought Islam to the Valley. Their shrines have a spiritual significance as they mediate our relationship with God. Nobody should stop us from visiting them.”

Minhajul Islam is part of an amalgam of 45 Barelvi outfits called Karwan-e-Islam, which is working for the revival of the Valley’s “Sufi soul”. The alliance is led by Maulana Ghulam Rasool Hami, the Imam at Srinagar’s Dastigeer Sahib, one of Kashmir’s pre-eminent Sufi shrines.

The Karwan-e-Islam has plans to establish the Valley’s first Sufi university, named after Sheikh-ul-Alam, Kashmir’s patron saint. The university, besides teaching all modern subjects, will sponsor research on Kashmir’s Sufi saints.

However, the proposal is still hanging fire with the state government, which, incidentally is also sitting over a similar proposal from the JAH. In fact, the government has already allotted land for the Jamiat University, to be called Tran world Muslim University. But the final nod has yet to come after differences arose during discussions in the Assembly in 2009.

But the bid for the universities — Minhajul Islam also has an individual proposal to revive Shah-i-Hamdan’s Sufi university at the shrine of Makhdoom Sahib — is a sideshow to the competitive grassroots work that is redrawing the battle lines.

If a recent study by the Union home ministry is anything to go by, a majority of youth are seeking refuge in religion. And a substantial portion of them make up the ranks of conservative Islam, propagated by the JAH and Darul Ulooms inspired by the Deobandi school of thought. This generation rejects the idea of the Sufi shrines being a source of salvation or the saints being the agency mediating the connection between their followers and God.

These youth are not satisfied with their individual sense of salvation. They want to transform society. Over the past two decades, their sphere of operation has widened from the Darul Ulooms into everyday community life. A new debate about the nature of “essential Islam” is raging in Kashmiri households. As a result, there is an emerging polarisation that is not easily discernible to the naked eye.

ORDINARY KASHMIRI households are a living proof of this new reality. One such house is that of Sufi-oriented Abdul Gafoor at Ganderbal. Two years ago, his trendy, jeans-wearing son Sajid Gafoor, 23, went through a sudden spiritual transformation after his chance association with the followers of Tablighi Jamaat, an offshoot of the proponents of conservative Islam. He started praying five times a day, donned a skullcap and grew a long beard. And it wasn’t long before he started questioning his parents’ faith in Sufi dargahs, saying the shrines had no divine authority and the saints buried there were mere mortals.

“He told us we were committing shirk (worshipping anyone other than God) and therefore transgressing the boundaries of religion. Our rebuff made him only more rebellious,” says Gafoor. “But we told him that Kashmir is a Pir Waer (Valley of dervishes) and it was because of these dervishes that Islam had spread here.”

The tension at Gafoor’s house, if not transparently evident, is palpable in the evolving religious discourse of the Valley. It plays out in every locality, village and mosque with the debate centered on the rival claims to the allegiance to what is perceived to be bona fide Islam.

Some people such as Sufi scholar Hameed Naseem Rafiabadi call this transformation one of the most radical in the 700-year Islamic history in the Valley — a sweeping transition from the Sufi tradition to the puritanical Islam. “A few decades ago, it was only a few families in Srinagar who espoused conservative Islam. Now, there are thousands of followers, a constituency that is now duly played to by the political parties,” says Rafiabadi, the author of the book Islam and Sufism in Kashmir.

But there is now a deliberate effort to reverse this orthodox juggernaut. And it is here that things are getting complex. For the first time in history, Sufi Islam is getting organised and aggressively promoting devotion to shrines. What is more, there is now a competitive race to enlist followers.

“We have around 4,000 khatibs (prayer-leaders) and 30,000 more are undergoing training,” says Karwan-e-Islam head Hami. The amalgam also has 50 Darul Ulooms and madrasas where they teach Quran and Hadith. “Around 30,000 students study in the madrasas but we plan to take the number to three Lakh in another five years.”

Karwan-e-Islam also plans to hold an international Islamic conference in May where it will invite leading Sufi scholars such as Allaudin Siddiqui from the UK, Syed Ali Jami of Egypt, Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri and Alama Hanif-u-Din from Pakistan and Sheikh Abu baker Shafi from Kerala, besides a number of others from Central Asia.

On the other hand, the JAH is pinning its hopes on the expected visit of the Imam of Mecca later this year. “We have invited him and he has assured that he will come,” says JAH general secretary Abdul Rehman Bhat. With 700 mosques and 150 Darul Ulooms, JAH has already deeply entrenched itself in the Valley. “We have two part-time madrasas in every village,” says Bhat.

Similarly, the Deobandis have networked the Valley with some of the biggest Darul Ulooms in the state. Their Darul Uloom at Poonch has around 1,500 students and the one at Bandipora has 1,000 students. The Deobandis also have two major Darul Ulooms in Srinagar. They are the centres of exclusive religious learning, which between them turn out hundreds of Maulvis and a number of muftis who then enter mainstream Kashmiri life and try to remould it in their own image.

But Barelvis don’t think Wahhabism encompasses the full gamut of faith. “Sufism takes care of Zahir and Batin (exterior and interior self ) whereas other schools of thought focus exclusively on the exterior meaning of Quran and Hadith,” says Hami. “We believe that only Sufism helps in full development of spirituality, recycles our self and liberates us from all ills.”

However, senior JAH leader Maulana Riyaz Ahmad says there is only one authentic version of Islam — “one prescribed by God and his Prophet”. He suspects there are deliberate efforts to “twist Islam” to suit the needs of the establishment.

“There cannot be a compromise Islam. Islamic principles cannot be adapted to taste,” says Ahmad, who is the brother of the late JAH president Maulana Showkat, who was killed in an IED explosion on 8 April 2011. “But we aren’t worried. Even if one percent follows the true path of Islam, they can usher in a revolution.”

BUT THE issue doesn’t end with this deepening polarisation. What is vitiating the atmosphere is the endemic perception about the government’s role in setting up Barelvi organisations as a counter to the proponents of conservative Islam. Equally, the conservatives themselves are not free of blame. They are also suspected to be the recipients of foreign funding.

Lending some credence to these suspicions was the home ministry’s reply to an RTI last December, in which it revealed that 362 madrasas in Jammu & Kashmir had been funded under the Scheme Providing Quality Education. However, all the religious outfits have denied any kind of government funding with Hami even holding a press conference to distance his madrasas from the controversy.

Besides, the distance both the Barelvis and conservatives have maintained from the politics of Kashmir have sowed doubts about their ideological outlook, more so in the separatist quarters who tellingly point to their silence through the successive summer revolts from 2008-10.

“We are witnessing the growth of an army of Maulanas who maintain a safe distance from the ongoing turmoil in the state. But at the same time they are splitting the society along sectarian lines. We see their emergence as part of a deliberate strategy to weaken the movement,” says a leader of hard-line Hurriyat, an amalgam that is otherwise accused of being a proponent of fundamentalist Islam.

A moderate Hurriyat leader has a similar take. “We have a hunch that there is a well-planned conspiracy to embroil Kashmir in a sectarian war. We look worryingly at this development,” he says.
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http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2012 ... mar-65.asp
Jammu, Mar 28: Regretting that he was unable to meet the deadline on partial revocation of Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) from the state, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah Wednesday announced that the Act will go from some parts of the state this year. :((
“We are in constant touch with the center over the issue and the deliberations are going on. I hope that the process for the revocation of AFSPA from some parts of the state will start this year”, Omar told Legislative Assembly, while replying to the debate on demand of grants for home department, here today.
Indicating that the law will be first revoked from Srinagar, Budgam, Samba and Kathua districts of the state, the chief minister said that the army has not conducted any operation in these areas for years and these areas are almost militancy free.
Acknowledging that the state has not made any formal recommendation to the center in this regard, the chief minister said the state was empowered to take the decision on its own. AFSPA was implemented in the state by the then Governor on the recommendation of the Parliament of India, he said adding that under the provisions of the law both center and state has the powers to implement and revoke it.
“We do not need to make any formal recommendation to the Government of India. The state after Cabinet Committee on Security meet in 2010 was asked to take a decision in consultation with the Unified Command”, he said adding; “However, unfortunately, we have not been able to take a unanimous decision in this regard. When the matter was taken up in the Unified Command meeting all the security agencies, except army, favored the roll back of the law. Army was of the opinion that the situation was not rife for the revocation of the Act from the state”.
He said that the state government was committed for the complete revocation of all the laws from the state that have lost relevance. The suggestion to rollback such laws was also made during the meeting of one of the Working Groups appointed by the Prime Minister of India, :eek: he said adding that unfortunately the revocation of the Act was being equated with the law and order situation in the state.
“We are being told that we are rushing to the conclusions because one peaceful summer does not mean that situation has returned to normal. However, I am of firm belief that the implementation of AFSPA should not be equated with the law and order situation. The Act was not implemented in the state to meet the law and order situation but to deal with the militancy. As per the figures the militancy has declined over the years. We have only 5 percent of militancy left today as compared to what was in 2002”, the chief minister said :(( .
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5 more Lashkar-e-Poaks meet their 72:
10-hour Kashmir gunfight ends, five guerrillas killed
Police here said troopers of the counter-insurgency 21 Rashtriya Rifles and the local police surrounded a forest area in north Kashmir Kupwara district early Thursday following information about the presence of guerrillas in the dense forests.

“Militants hiding in the Kramshoora forest of Handwara tehsil in Kupwara district were challenged to surrender by the troops of 21 Rashtriya Rifles and the state police in a joint operation today.

The hiding militants opened automatic gunfire at the surrounding troops triggering a gunfight which has now ended," an officer said at 7.15 p.m.

“Five militants have been killed in the gunfight. Their identities are being established,” the officer said.

Last week, five guerrillas belonging to the Lashkar-eTaiba (LeT) outfit were killed in two separatist gunfights in the same district.
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Ancient temple damaged in fire
Last Updated: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 14:07

Jammu: Unidentified persons set an ancient temple on fire in Jammu and Kashmir's Doda district, triggering tension in the area, police said on Saturday.

The Chod Mata temple, located in a high altitude area in Doda, was burnt down by some unidentified persons last night
, SSP (Doda) Arif Rishu said.

This has triggered tension in the area, however, the situation is under control, he said.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/jammu-and ... 46287.html
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If Babri Masjid can be a source of such Takleef, why many hundreds of such incidents as reported above are ignored
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Desecration of a Hindu temple complex in Kashmir condemned

PRLog (Press Release) - Apr 05, 2012 -

Kashmir Hindu Foundation, Inc., USA members are deeply distressed to hear news reports that a sacred Hindu temple 'Shri Vaital Bairav Astapan' at Motiyaar in Rainawari, Srinagar-Kashmir has been completely desecrated, including the sanctorum and the sacred old Mulberry Tree. This has sent a wave of strong resentment among the Kashmir Hindu devotees who have held this Asthapan in reverence for years.

KHF strongly demands that Immediate steps be taken to restore the sanctity of the temple. Religious sentiments of the Kashmiri Hindu community have been deeply hurt by this cowardly act. We support protests launched by various social and political Kashmiri Hindu organizations in Jammu.

The State Government has failed to provide safety and security to religious shrines of Hindus in Kashmir and it is their duty to fulfill its moral obligations towards the minority community in the state of Jammu and Kashmir. The Divisional commissioner of Kashmir who is the custodian of all Kashmiri Hindu Migrants left out properties should restore the sanctity of this 350 year old shrine. The culprits responsible for this sacrilege need to be prosecuted to avoid such occurrences in future

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Temple complex at Rainawari-Srinagar, Kashmir

http://www.prlog.org/11843032-desecrati ... emned.html
This is the second temple attacked, it is different from the temple burnt down in Doda.
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http://pragmatic.nationalinterest.in/20 ... n-kashmir/
2011: The most peaceful year in Kashmir
After the turbulent summer of 2010, it was a huge turn-around for the state in 2011. It left many self-styled Kashmir analysts with egg on their faces. If the state government headed by Omar Abdullah got the flak for its inept handling of the situation in 2010, it justifiably deserves credit for what it achieved last year. Of course, the stinginess in praise comes as no surprise considering the hypocritical nature of our left-liberal commentators. Thankfully, it doesn’t matter as long as the situation on the ground is evident to everyone — and can be backed by data.

Does it mean there isn’t anyone left in Kashmir who still wants Azadi (though no two persons can define Azadi the same way) and harbours anti-India sentiments? Of course, there are more than a handful of that variety in certain urban pockets of Kashmir Valley. But as long as the state is able to ensure peace and security for the majority of Kashmiris, the anti-India ruck doesn’t matter. You need an environment where students can attend schools, a shopkeeper can open his shop, a dailywager can earn his daily wage, a transporter can ply his truck, a farmer can sell his produce and tourists can visit the state without having to worry about a grenade or a bomb going off. Maintaining peace and ensuring security is essential, though not sufficient for attaining normalcy in Kashmir. The state government has been able to get the essential part right.

Building on this reduction in militancy, the state assembly has approved the amendments to the much-maligned Public Safety Act. Of course, this development has gone unnoticed lest it forces some commentators to acknowledge the good work put in by the state government.
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Aditya_V wrote:If Babri Masjid can be a source of such Takleef, why many hundreds of such incidents as reported above are ignored
Because Hindus do not have an international Church based in the west, or are not Muslims, or they do not riot on each and every apparent insult on their faith or icons, or because they do not claim it their unchallengeable birthright to bring everyone to their ways.

But maybe more importantly they do not have a terrorist nation of their own, solely under their own faith control, on the borders of India, or they do not separately own a territory that has plenty of oil to provide employment and promise financial flows to Indian mercantiles who will shed croc tears on how not submitting to the demands of the "hindus" will jeopardize growth and prosperity which the aam however never sees.
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Is our political opposition compromised (via all four ways) that no one brings up these issues anymore? A Soviet Union with 10000 nuclear bombs, 100 submarines, 10000 fighters could not stand up when the leaders sold their commitment. Can our nation survive for long when opposition is scared of being branded communal for bringing up relevant issues? How is India different from Iraq (Sunni minority elite ruling the country), Syria, etc? I am sorry if this post has become a whine.
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AFSPA to be removed in 7 locations in J&K. PC thinks OA is mature enough to handle the downside.
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^ Is OA going to cut down on his and his daddy's security now that terrorism is down by so many notches as per his own claim. Let him put his money where his mouth his.
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prahaar wrote:Is our political opposition compromised (via all four ways) that no one brings up these issues anymore?
Political parties are expected to raise such issues only when prospect of commensurate electoral gain exists. But where are the self-appointed cultural organizations ?

It's sad that the active participant in the sellout is a trust that has 100+ years of royal patronage and meant to take care of the temple. The trust is headed by Dr. Karan Singh (royal family).
Alleging that the Dharmarth Trust had transferred the power of attorney of the temple complex and its land to one Abdul Rahid Durani of Pampore, he said it reflcted the state government's inability to protect religious places of Kashmiri Pandits.
http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2012 ... obe-59.asp
They raised slogans against the Managing Body of the Dharmanath Trust including its head Dr Karan Singh and, state and central governments for failing to save the temple land in the Valley from the alleged ‘land mafia’.

They castigated the trust President, Diwakar Singh for leasing out the temple land on attorney.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 37993.aspx
Diwakar Singh, who is working as president of the Trust for the last years, has misused the funds of the Trust and sold land and properties of the Hindu temples in Jammu and Kashmir. "Due to misdeeds of the President, the royal family of J&K is also under scanner of the people, who still respect them', he added
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GoI is going to have to get its act together ASAP and support development in J&K or else its going to be another big rise against the state. All the progress and the great work done by Army and intelwalla's will just go down the grain. We have a big chance to resolve this once in for all.

In Kashmir, some hot potatoes
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New Delhi appears determined to prove to young Kashmiris that it is a tyranny, opaque and arbitrary in its use of power.

In the charged summer of 2010, an irate cleric from the central Kashmir town of Badgam showed me startling evidence of India's plot to destroy Islam in Kashmir: an improbably large potato. The potato, he claimed, contained pig-genes which would defile the faithful.

Last month, Usmaan Raheem Ahmad — the man behind the high-yielding potatoes which the cleric had claimed induced impiety — was denied entry to India. Mr. Ahmad's path-breaking work on rural empowerment, urban entrepreneurship and women's rights had been publicly endorsed by the Chief Minister, the Governor and even the State police. He was seen by them as representing the kind of progressive intervention needed to drain the swamps of religious chauvinism and backwardness in which the Badgam cleric thrived — opening up the prospect of a new, vibrant Kashmir. For reasons no one in the Central government is willing to explain, though, New Delhi chose to shut Mr. Ahmad's work down.

Full disclosure: I made several attempts to find out why Mr. Ahmad was denied entry and to see if the problem could be resolved. I was told, variously, that Mr. Ahmad had worked on a tourist visa (not true); that he met with secessionists (true, but so does the Home Minister); that a 50-page Intelligence Bureau report concluded his organisation, the Mercy Corps, was working too closely in coordination with the United States (Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's government, some critics say, also does). No one actually accused Mr. Ahmad of a crime.

Paralytic malaise

In the grand scheme of things, Mr. Ahmad's fate is perhaps trivial — but his story illustrates a paralytic malaise that has gripped New Delhi's policy on Jammu and Kashmir. In recent months, this malaise has manifested itself in dogged efforts to persuade young people in the State that India is a mindless tyranny, opaque and arbitrary in its use of power.

No one has seen fit to explain to the thousands of young people who saw hope in Mr. Ahmad's work why it was abruptly terminated. Nor has New Delhi explained its decision to stonewall the Chief Minister's repeated calls for phased demilitarisation. Not one reason has been given for why the government can't find the time to discuss A New Compact, the report of the three interlocutors it had appointed in 2010 to address the causes of street violence and police firing that claimed over a hundred young lives.

This pattern of behaviour isn't just mystifying: it's outright dangerous.

The report of interlocutors Dilip Padgaonkar, Radha Kumar and M.M. Ansari — whose details were made public by The Hindu earlier this month — essentially seeks to put Jammu and Kashmir's constitutional future on a firm basis. It advocates limiting New Delhi's future ability to intervene on legislation that does not concern the country's security or vital economic interests. The document calls for power to be devolved to the provinces, addressing the ethnic-religious anxieties and resentments that have underpinned so much of the State's problems in recent years. It calls for economic regeneration on this side of the Line of Control, and trade across it — another issue that Mr. Ahmad was working on.

Few of these proposals are contentious: as the New Compact acknowledges, some of the ideas it deals with date back to 1952. Indeed, if there is one criticism to be made of the document, it is that the New Compact speaks to an old Kashmir: there is barely the whiff of radical idea in the document. New Delhi's decision not to begin discussing the New Compact bodes ill for the future. Kashmir is changing in ways that are imposing seismic pressures on its politics and polity, making real political dialogue imperative.

First, Jammu and Kashmir is urbanising rapidly — a process that creates huge social strains. In just the decade between 2001 and 2011, census data show, the urban population has increased from a quarter to a third of the population as a whole. It is hard to overstate the importance of these numbers. In 1951, soon after Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India, over half of the population was rural — and 10 years later, two-thirds were living in the countryside, as radical land reforms giving rural migrant workers the opportunity to become peasants kicked in.

Secondly, Jammu and Kashmir is seeing the birth of the largest youth cohort in its history — another source of strain. Three in five Jammu and Kashmir residents are either under 19 or over 60 — and the young are growing fastest. This means there is great pressure on the productive age group, and an urgent need to create new jobs for those who will soon enter it.

Thirdly, two decades of violence have left much of the population ill-prepared to deal with the new world that has emerged around it. The literacy rate has gone up only marginally, from 55.52 per cent to 68.74 per cent. The Planning Commission's last State development report on Jammu and Kashmir noted that “all the districts affected by militancy have a low literacy rate.” Kathua and Jammu, it noted, stood at the top of the pile; Srinagar at the bottom.

Himachal Pradesh — a State with terrain and social conditions not dissimilar to Jammu and Kashmir — illustrates the point: even adjusted for population, the State has better education, health facilities and tourism infrastructure.

Dangers ahead

From New Delhi-based scholar Navnita Behera's survey of media consumption by young people in Kashmir, there is some evidence that this generation has attitudes quite different from those of its elders. There remains among young people in Kashmir a substantial constituency for secessionist politics: 36 per cent of those seeking azaadi — who made up a little over half the respondents — defined it to mean independence from India, accession to Pakistan, or a shari'a-governed state. Even larger numbers — 61 per cent — however said they understood the term azaadi to denote greater constitutional and economic rights; one in 10 simply wanted the army out.

This is evidence that the secessionist constituency is diminishing. The problem, though, is this: this generation is also disconnected, as never before, from the political system. Two decades of violence strangled democratic politics. New Delhi is now delivering the coup de grace. Little empirical work has been done on the issue, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that young people in search of agency are turning away from organised politics to diverse forms of religious pietism, consumerism, or nihilist street violence.

Kashmir's jihadist movement was, at its core, a form of anti-politics that arose from a crisis just like this. In the 1970s and 1980s, pressures on small farmers — and growing hold of a new class of contractors and urban élites on the National Conference — created a reservoir of discontent among its traditional constituency. The party increasingly turned to religious chauvinism to hold on to its following. The Muslim United Front, representing the urban petty bourgeoisie and the rural orchard-owning elite, did so too. Islam, for the classes which backed the MUF, was an instrument to legitimise the protest of a threatened social order against a modernity which held out the prospect of obliterating it.

Price of failure

Kashmir, scholar Thomas Marks has argued, was flattened by “a demographic tidal wave of unabsorbed youthful males appearing in the late 1980s”, precisely the time “political issues called into question the legitimacy of the existing order”. Politics ought to have addressed these issues — but New Delhi's decades-old de-institutionalisation of democracy in the State ensured it could not. The price of failure was tens of thousands of lost lives.

From the English civil wars of 1642-1651 to the rise of European fascism, similar demographic trends have fuelled epic violence. In an exhaustive 2006 review of the evidence, social scientist Henrik Urdal concluded that “relatively large youth cohorts are associated with a significantly increased risk of domestic armed conflict, terrorism, riots and violent demonstrations.”

“War is father of all,” wrote the ancient philosopher, Heraclitus, “king of all.” “Some it makes gods, some it makes men, some it makes slaves, some free.” Heraclitus' aphorism has been used to illustrate the uncertain fortunes of conflict. It also, perhaps, has a deeper meaning. Efforts at peace-building often seek to discover and then fix causes that drove the emergence of a conflict. Not infrequently, they fail, because the societies they address no longer exist.

New Delhi's policy establishment still imagines it is dealing with a Kashmir that disappeared two decades or more ago: an illusion sustained by the fact that so many key actors are the children of the men who made the deals that propped up the State's dysfunctional political order. Its key instruments remain cajoling and co-optation — and, when it fails, outright bribery.

Meaningful political dialogue, least of all the new language of transparency, rights and empowerment Mr. Ahmad represented, simply isn't on the agenda. Prime Minister Singh's government won the war in Jammu and Kashmir, inflicting a decisive defeat on the insurgency. His government's actions suggest it is now doing its best to lose the peace.

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Praveen Swami pushes all the right buttons - all aimed at triggering the one reaction in the non-Muslim p-secs like that of power-transfer-congrez of Nehruji [and hence all subsequent GOI's because the previous gov has already done everything to help the Islamists in their cause from which it is nearly impossible to wriggle out] that has helped Islamists all over the subcontinent.

That reaction is : negotiate and give us the moolah/dough without us compromising one dot on the genocidal threat we hold over you - and you will lose your growth and prosperity.

The "prosperity" first, before anything and everything line for India onlee - so ingrained now in our apologists for the rashtryia machinery and Paki type thinking, coterie can be activated sooper fast if the threat of conflict can dangled over the head of the coterie while shouting loudly about the consequences on profits, investments, and "growth".

Here is how the twists are done:
The report of interlocutors Dilip Padgaonkar, Radha Kumar and M.M. Ansari — whose details were made public by The Hindu earlier this month — essentially seeks to put Jammu and Kashmir's constitutional future on a firm basis. It advocates limiting New Delhi's future ability to intervene on legislation that does not concern the country's security or vital economic interests. The document calls for power to be devolved to the provinces, addressing the ethnic-religious anxieties and resentments that have underpinned so much of the State's problems in recent years. It calls for economic regeneration on this side of the Line of Control, and trade across it — another issue that Mr. Ahmad was working on.
Increasing federalization with an increasingly weakening centre might be USA' or UK's idea of the past 20 years [ample "western" advocates of Balkanization of India -references, available, both from China and the "west"], but if it is also the interlocutors ideas - and Swami sees no red rag here - it only shows who is on which side of the fundamental question about the nature and future evolution of the Indian rashtra.

The interlocutors want to strengthen a separate Islamic identity that hides its Islamism under pretensions of Kashmiri-ness. In that Kashmirines - the Sarada script does not exist, Hindu past and present does not exist, temples do not exist, Kashmiri Pundits do not exist except under force otherwise -but that Kashmiriness which coincides with every form of Islamist hatred and shenanigans against the non-Muslim.

But how does Swami, who warns about current policies stuck in past perceptions - still innocently repeat the essentials of what certain US "experts" were projecting for India decades ago - that India needed/should/will automatically Balkanize? That India was no single nation - yadda, yadda?
Few of these proposals are contentious: as the New Compact acknowledges, some of the ideas it deals with date back to 1952. Indeed, if there is one criticism to be made of the document, it is that the New Compact speaks to an old Kashmir: there is barely the whiff of radical idea in the document. New Delhi's decision not to begin discussing the New Compact bodes ill for the future. Kashmir is changing in ways that are imposing seismic pressures on its politics and polity, making real political dialogue imperative.
We have many other ideas dating back to the 50's - like POK being returned to Indian sovereignty. And since the 60's, when the real Islamism in the valley started off - a return to the pre-Islamist state. Why onlee those ideas that favour the islamists?
First, Jammu and Kashmir is urbanising rapidly — a process that creates huge social strains. In just the decade between 2001 and 2011, census data show, the urban population has increased from a quarter to a third of the population as a whole. It is hard to overstate the importance of these numbers. In 1951, soon after Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India, over half of the population was rural — and 10 years later, two-thirds were living in the countryside, as radical land reforms giving rural migrant workers the opportunity to become peasants kicked in.
Rapid urbanization is happening in many parts of India. They are not leading to Kashmiryiat problems. It is leading to problem in Kashmir Valley exactly because of the Kashmir valley Islamism.
Secondly, Jammu and Kashmir is seeing the birth of the largest youth cohort in its history — another source of strain. Three in five Jammu and Kashmir residents are either under 19 or over 60 — and the young are growing fastest. This means there is great pressure on the productive age group, and an urgent need to create new jobs for those who will soon enter it.
So this cohort was born exactly when Islamism in the valley took off - in the late 70's and early 80's. That was when schools were blown off, KP's ejected, massacred and raped, and madrassahs bloomed like valley of flowers in May. So this can be a good strategy for the future. Ensure that subsidies and dole happens, unleash a birth orgy under theological patronage, and in the future use that as a loaded gun to extract more resources for the next round of Islamist orgies.
Thirdly, two decades of violence have left much of the population ill-prepared to deal with the new world that has emerged around it. The literacy rate has gone up only marginally, from 55.52 per cent to 68.74 per cent. The Planning Commission's last State development report on Jammu and Kashmir noted that “all the districts affected by militancy have a low literacy rate.” Kathua and Jammu, it noted, stood at the top of the pile; Srinagar at the bottom.

Himachal Pradesh — a State with terrain and social conditions not dissimilar to Jammu and Kashmir — illustrates the point: even adjusted for population, the State has better education, health facilities and tourism infrastructure.
Yes the difference - predominance of mullahcracy or absence of the mullahcracy. No matter how much resources will be put into the ducation sector - as even uni profs in KV have proved - that educational investment will be used to promote Islamism. More promotion of islamism and Islamic way of thinking means fundamental attitudes of blind faith and non-questioing the mullahcracies droppings. That mindset never allows progress in education - no matter if billions are invested.
Dangers ahead

From New Delhi-based scholar Navnita Behera's survey of media consumption by young people in Kashmir, there is some evidence that this generation has attitudes quite different from those of its elders. There remains among young people in Kashmir a substantial constituency for secessionist politics: 36 per cent of those seeking azaadi — who made up a little over half the respondents — defined it to mean independence from India, accession to Pakistan, or a shari'a-governed state. Even larger numbers — 61 per cent — however said they understood the term azaadi to denote greater constitutional and economic rights; one in 10 simply wanted the army out.

This is evidence that the secessionist constituency is diminishing. The problem, though, is this: this generation is also disconnected, as never before, from the political system. Two decades of violence strangled democratic politics. New Delhi is now delivering the coup de grace. Little empirical work has been done on the issue, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that young people in search of agency are turning away from organised politics to diverse forms of religious pietism, consumerism, or nihilist street violence.
Interestingly, the survey only reflects what the thought-managers and campaigners of Kashmir Valley islamism project.
Kashmir's jihadist movement was, at its core, a form of anti-politics that arose from a crisis just like this. In the 1970s and 1980s, pressures on small farmers — and growing hold of a new class of contractors and urban élites on the National Conference — created a reservoir of discontent among its traditional constituency. The party increasingly turned to religious chauvinism to hold on to its following. The Muslim United Front, representing the urban petty bourgeoisie and the rural orchard-owning elite, did so too. Islam, for the classes which backed the MUF, was an instrument to legitimise the protest of a threatened social order against a modernity which held out the prospect of obliterating it.
Ad nauseum - people try to anaesthetize the effect of Islam in a society by making it an inanimate, neutral object which is simply inertly used as a tool. Islam is used because it already has the elements to be used for the purpose mentioned - and because no politician in an Islam dominated society can do anything without submitting to the Mullah, even if he is the Kemal-X of his society. The every fact that the "threatened social order" managed to survive should point out exactly how it manages to survive. At that time point by deceiving p-secs or raising the fear of "conflict" in mercantility-slaves.
Price of failure

Kashmir, scholar Thomas Marks has argued, was flattened by “a demographic tidal wave of unabsorbed youthful males appearing in the late 1980s”, precisely the time “political issues called into question the legitimacy of the existing order”. Politics ought to have addressed these issues — but New Delhi's decades-old de-institutionalisation of democracy in the State ensured it could not. The price of failure was tens of thousands of lost lives.

From the English civil wars of 1642-1651 to the rise of European fascism, similar demographic trends have fuelled epic violence. In an exhaustive 2006 review of the evidence, social scientist Henrik Urdal concluded that “relatively large youth cohorts are associated with a significantly increased risk of domestic armed conflict, terrorism, riots and violent demonstrations.”
After Nehru's fatal and theological-affiliation-sympathy motivated blunder in 1948, New Delhi had no option other than de-institutionalizing democracy. In an islamic society democracy always brings separatism from the non-Muslim, and increasing jihadi build up - unless, unless the mullahcracy and its institutional framework is obliterated.

Meaningful political dialogue, least of all the new language of transparency, rights and empowerment Mr. Ahmad represented, simply isn't on the agenda. Prime Minister Singh's government won the war in Jammu and Kashmir, inflicting a decisive defeat on the insurgency. His government's actions suggest it is now doing its best to lose the peace.
In the continued presence of mullahcracy, and western interest in dealing with mullahcracy as compromise for their own interests - a person like Mr. Ahmad, if connected to the "west" represents - all the more help to the Islamist identity to take cover under selective external features of a "modernist" stance, while pushing for the same old genocidal expansive agenda.

Yes - New Delhi is stuck - but because it realizes that any move at allowing any space to the Kashmir Valley forces, which its own illustrious p-sec leaders deluded themselves into strengthening one way or the other - even the so-called youth-bomb, is one short step to having a full blown Islamist state at its northern gates.
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Good post Bji.

Ofcourse,you are preaching to the choir.But some still need to be ...
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