a exchange of mails with a PA brigadier ( article in dawn.com)..!!! judge for urself ....
--- On Sun, 15/4/12, manjgu wrote
Dear Brigadier Sahib,
Thanks for your reply.....
A) If I understood you right, you are making the claim that LOC has been delineated beyond NJ4982 as well . ( when u say whole LOC)
A1) Why does not Pakistan then produce the map in a public fora which has been signed by both India and Pakistan which delineates the whole LOC including beyond point NJ4982 ( and aligned NE till Karakoram Pass) ?
Honestly, I am hearing this for the first time that India and Pakistan have jointly signed and authenticated a map which shows the LOC as claimed by Pakistan ( including beyond NJ4982 going till Karakoram Pass) which would place Siachen glacier in Pakistan.
A2) How come then NJ4982 has become a significant landmark/point in the India/pakistan context if the whole LOC was delineated as per you.
the point is not how the line runs TILL NJ4982 but how it runs AFTER/BEYOND NJ4982 !! it is expected to run NORTHWARDS because the text of the agreement says that beyond NJ4982 it will go 'NORTHWARDS'.
--- On Sat, 14/4/12, Mahmood Shah <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
From: Mahmood Shah <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Your article in Dawn ( Siachen)
Date: Saturday, 14 April, 2012, 10:04 AM
Dear manjgu Sahib,
Thanks for your comments.An agreement between two parties or countries is good as long as both sides agree to abide by it. If one side decides to violate it they can find hundred and one excuses to do so. Regarding the line I will make just two brief points:-
1. The 1972 Simla Agreement was preceded by Suchit Garh negotiations where the complete LOC was marked and maps signed. When maps adjacent to this area that is Kargil Sector exists how come signed map does not exist for this area where half of the area on the same map sheet is accepted as correct by India but not beyond it. And they say we don't have a signed map sheet and don't our one as authentic.
2. This line runs North East for about 15 KM before it reaches NJ9842. By what logic it suddenly turns Due North from this point onward.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:29 AM, wrote:
Dear Brigadier Sahib,
With reference to your article in Dawn....
the LOC was delineated till NJ9842 and thence it was go 'Northwards'. How the LOC was to be aligned ahead of NJ9842 was not marked on any map ( any map which was jointly signed/autheniticated by Pakistan and India).
Pakistan took it North East instead of North and this is where the problem lies. As a military officer you sure do know what is "Northwards' on a map, compass ! I sincerely hope to hear from you clarifying the matter.