i also asked the same question earlier. whats the deal guys?SagarAg wrote:Then which missile was that with the blue colored RV posted earlier in this dhaaga.
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Agni-V launch rescheduled for today
The Hindu article says it is rescheduled to be tested sometime now.
The Hindu article says it is rescheduled to be tested sometime now.
NDTV saysThe first developmental trial was originally scheduled between 8 and 8.30 pm on Wednesday. But charged clouds, persistent lightning and thunder forced the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to reschedule the launch between 7.30 am and 8.30 am on Thursday.
India's first Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM), Agni-V, will be test-fired from Wheeler Island off the Odisha coast at around 7:45 am today. The test launch was originally scheduled for Wednesday, but was postponed due to bad weather.
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The black RV is the real deal. The blue colored one could be a picture of a mock-up. It was published earlier and could be file photo.
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Thanks for posting the above, gives an excellent reference frame w.r.t humans.
Here are the salient points (IMHO):
1. The 3rd stage is a true conical motor. This is really cutting edge. Extremely difficult and says a lot about the sophistication DRDO has reached! That is why it took time for them to develop the 3rd stage (given that they had already developed the other two, it should not have been that difficult, composite or not). Now it all makes sense, the time it took to develop the 3rd stage.
2. What I think is the warhead is the 150-300 kt TN maal. Yes, it is that big and it is single warhead. The conical motor will propel the single warhead to its ultimate destination (minimum 5000 kms) and at high accuracy.
3. MIRV will consist of the 20-40 kt petals, mounted on a conventional cylindrical 3rd stage. ISRO already demonstrated its capability by injecting multiple satellites into precise orbits. What goes for launching multiple sats goes for launching multiple warheads (and in this case MIRVs). The MIRV version of Agni-5 will be the same height (and girth) except the 3rd stage will be cylindrical and the top will be semi-hemispherical.
I think it is time for BRF to coin a word that describes "yellow pants".
Also they should have coloured Agni-V in a dark color (like black) and should have included some rice based pudding around as prasadam.
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This missile is damn sexy. With a 200 kt bgrv accurate to 50 m, we could penetrate through their abm defences and kick em in the teeth.Suraj wrote:
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Excellent primer on RLG (this is not the first time it is used, this is the first time it is showed) and the carbon composite for the re-entry. Pallav Bhagla was stunned when he was touching the other side of the tile, while an oxy-acetaline flame was burning the opposite side! Excellent!!rahul_r wrote:Inside the Agni-5 Missile Lab
Must watch for all jingoes and as one profoundly major said, being short and dark has its advantage in colder heights.
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NDTV says final countdown begins.
Live BlogThe final countdown has begun. Fingers crossed. India's first inter-continental ballistic missile Agni 5 will be test-fired from Wheeler Island off the Odisha coast in just a few minutes from now.
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Few minutes till test fire. Jai ho!
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Any live feed/webcast?
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Yes, I too think there are two different front ends. This version will deliver the heavy single payload with accuracy and low detection due to the BGRV mode. The conical motor makes it integral. Also the CP of the conical motor is aft of the CG and provides static margin during the BGRV phase.
The other version is the MIRV one. Only thing am not sure about yet is if they have propulsive units for MARV phase: evasion, accuracy etc?
The other version is the MIRV one. Only thing am not sure about yet is if they have propulsive units for MARV phase: evasion, accuracy etc?
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Excellent Photu (except because of zoom lens some perspective of the RV size to the humans is lost)., anyway, here is the analysisvenku_Raj wrote:
1. The third stage begins from the line just above (or left) of the letters DRDO,
2. continues all the way to the red band (and yes it is a conical motor and not a shroud between different diameter motors).
3. I think the red band is the HAM (High altitude motor) for precise control of the RV and maintaining different trajectories
4. The gray band between the black warhead and the HAM should be housing the electronics. Is there a star sensor under one of those patches?
What is the row of small circular "dots" around the circumference of the black warhead near the base and at the junction of the gray electronics bay for? piff-paff motors? Spin stabilizers (or spinners)?
Added later: Regarding point 1., the 3rd stage to 2nd stage interface could be in the black band more towards the top (or left)., it looks smaller here - however when viewed on the TEL fully erect, it shows its size (and length).
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Roperia wrote:NDTV says final countdown begins.
Live BlogThe final countdown has begun. Fingers crossed. India's first inter-continental ballistic missile Agni 5 will be test-fired from Wheeler Island off the Odisha coast in just a few minutes from now.
07:46 (IST) Agni-V will be test-fired over full range of 5,000 km
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Imagined threat comment was in response to NRaoji comment which implied Aus is a threat to India which I think is not in current circumstances.Prem Kumar wrote:Partha - our external messaging is simple - our platforms are "capability centric", not "country centric". Like Yoga & meditation, the answers are within. So, there is no such thing as an imagined threat
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ALERT: Agni-V launch at 8:15 am/tarmak
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Arihant can.NRao wrote: What good is a Agni if ti cannot reach Downunder?
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Does anyone know why DRDO has been so far unable to make the first stage rocket motor casing composite? Does the difficulty correlate to size. Also any guesses as to range increase( for same throw weight) if all 3 stages are composite?
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ie is 12 min from now.
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From TOI,
They are not saying Bay of Bengal, but SIO which is way south for the full 5000 km range , roughly twice the distance from Dilli to KanyaKumari.It has taken almost 15 days for India to position a couple of warships, with DRDO scientists, tracking and monitoring systems on board, mid-way along the flight trajectory as well as near the impact point in southern Indian Ocean.
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launched as per times now
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near live video on times now
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Arun thinks it could be BGRV and ballistic hybrid version. The conical motor propels it in BGRV phase and the last few miles is in ballistic phase.
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^^ Will it fly over Diego Garcia
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NDTV tweets Lauch successful: Agni 5 can carry nuclear warheads
It sucks you can't watch Times Now live from US.
It sucks you can't watch Times Now live from US.
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Missile launched
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I'm not sure what the first part "Lauch successful" has to do with the second part "Agni 5 can carry nuclear warheads"
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launch was into an overcast sky...
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ETA is roughly 20 min correct?
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Times now has gone into strategic discussion in how impacts relations with China etc etc. Rubbish! Jingos like me want technical info.
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Agni V launched @ 0805.. Still awaiting details whether it is a success or not!
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The tension of waiting for these results is like my 12th std or CA results.
Meanwhile, given our repeated announcements on timing, I hope we have completely reduced the onboard fuel on many a Chinese and Massa satellite, some mentioned the special satellite from Norad, me thinks we are tracking it, allowed it burn precious fuel while making some overhead passes and then launched it when its orbit was somewhere else.
Meanwhile, given our repeated announcements on timing, I hope we have completely reduced the onboard fuel on many a Chinese and Massa satellite, some mentioned the special satellite from Norad, me thinks we are tracking it, allowed it burn precious fuel while making some overhead passes and then launched it when its orbit was somewhere else.
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at 0825 we'll know if the missile hit the target or not (assuming it holds true to the 20 min's flight time!)
This is NOT a MIRV missile test, it is only with a SINGLE Warhead. Another test will take place in the near future for the MIRV's, obviously visible from the warhead pics posted in the earlier pages...
This is NOT a MIRV missile test, it is only with a SINGLE Warhead. Another test will take place in the near future for the MIRV's, obviously visible from the warhead pics posted in the earlier pages...
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CEP is estimated to be anywhere from 40 m to 100 m.. (100m is a decent start, whereas 40 m is an extremely amazing feat!)
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I've said my prayers to the relevant Gods in the hope of a "textbook launch"
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I think Diego Garcia is only 2200 KM south of Kerala coast. So yes its been in reach for a long time.
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CNN-IBN saying its a textbook launch.
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^^ The yanks aren't stupid either. They probably have multiple satellites overhead just in case.
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Still no word from DRDO or the Scientists... Footage will be released shortly along with telephonic interviews, however media has made it clear that access is strictly on a need to know basis & they are not pressing the issue further because they understand the issue of "national security"
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The flight path is 24 minutes. Its 8:27 am now, should land in the next two minutes.Craig Alpert wrote:Agni V launched @ 0805.. Still awaiting details whether it is a success or not!
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