Bharat Rakshak

At a time when the US is now allowing women to serve on board submarines

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Then dont get pregnant. The former Vice Chief of the IAF suggested that for a woman in service she needs to serve for 14 years before she is allowed to raise a family. Some thing like that could be implimented.

It must be remembered that a military is a fighting force and it cannot follow the norms of civil society

But no pregnancy while in service and she is of fighting age.

At a time when the US is now allowing women to serve on board submarines and countries like Australia are dismantling all gender barriers to allow female troops to serve on the frontlines, India remains extremely reluctant to even give them permanent jobs in the military.
Source:- http://www.punjabkesari.in/punjab/fulls ... 58_153735-

The problem is that the more absurdly difficult you make the rules to comply with, the greater the chance you are taking that they will be broken. You just DO NOT enclose young and fit men and women together for months at a time on an absolutely crucial job and imagine that they will keep off each other because of rules you make.

A few days ago - a simulated Mars mission crew, all male, came out after 500 odd days in Isolation. An earlier attempt ended prematurely when one crew member tried to kiss a female member.

Sexual urges are like breathing, eating and peeing. They are fundamental to human survival. Asking people to lock them away is asking for trouble.

Yeah, well noted. But it is not exactly the opportunity to prove that Human is different and in evolved stage than animals ?

Yeah, well noted. But it is not exactly the opportunity to prove that Human is different and in evolved stage than animals ?

Humans are just another animal and there is no such thing as "evolved stage"

OTOH, people with background in sports medicine can confirm how does the monthly cycle of an elite female athlete behaves. Will she have normal monthly cycle or will it be suppressed by her body due to the pressures of performing at the highest level. I ask because the periods are directly related to the ovulation by the woman. A woman in the military will need to be at the top of her game and she will have a similar monthly cycles.

General Khatool Mohammadzai, aged 45, made more than 600 jumps in her 28-year military career, and her precise and daring skydives used to be a regular part of every Independence Day and New Year’s celebration in Kabul.

The Kabul of Mohammadzai’s childhood was a proudly cosmopolitan city. Men and women alike were legally entitled to public education and good jobs; burqas were a rare sight, and young women routinely wore miniskirts or jeans. “In those days it wasn’t necessary for a woman to cover her hair, arms, and legs,” she recalls. The girl was 13 when the Soviet Army invaded Afghanistan. Many in Kabul actually welcomed the coming of the Russians; a violent power struggle had erupted among Afghanistan’s Marxist rulers, and the hope was that the December 1979 invasion would stabilize the government. In fact, the effort succeeded, at least in a limited way.

When an Afghan military recruiter came to her high school on graduation day and asked for volunteers to join the Afghan Army, the 17-year-old immediately raised her hand. Her mother was struggling to support the family, and jobs were hard to find—but more than that, Mohammadzai says she craved the challenges of military life. “I wanted to do what was most demanding, strenuous, and athletic,” she says. So she signed up to become a paratrooper. She vividly recalls how she and her fellow volunteers, almost all men, were sent on a two-day, 150-kilometer march over rough terrain from Kabul to the eastern city of Jalalabad with full packs. The young woman slept in the open among the male trainees. A rock was her pillow, and by the time the ordeal was over, her feet were bleeding. “We suffered a lot,” she says. But she aced the course.

In 1989, after nine years of an exorbitantly draining war, the Russians gave up and went home. The Afghan puppet regime managed to survive for three more years before collapsing in 1992. But the victorious guerrillas couldn’t afford to punish Mohammadzai too harshly for having been on the losing side; they desperately needed professional soldiers with her skills. She was named director of women’s physical training for the Air Defense Corps. And yet in many ways the mujahedin’s attitude toward women wasn’t much different from that of the Taliban: they barred her from parachute jumping, and she was required to wear a head-to-toe abaya whenever she appeared in public. Although Mohammadzai didn’t like the situation, she had no choice. She had married an Afghan soldier in 1990, and he was killed in action just a year later, only 40 days after she had given birth to his son.

Life became even tougher when the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996. All women were ordered to stay indoors at home until further notice, and Mohammadzai found herself trapped in her small apartment, with little money and no prospects, forbidden to work or even step outside unless escorted by a male relative. But she and her son survived, and soon after the collapse of the Taliban regime she was called back to active duty with the new Afghan National Army. In her apartment she proudly displays certificates of merit from the U.S. Army’s 173rd Airborne Combat Brigade and 82nd Airborne Division, and she’s been awarded paratrooper medals by the United States, Canada, and France.

The government Monday made it clear that it has no proposal to induct women in combat roles in the defence forces, including as fighter pilots in the Indian Air Force. Parliament was also informed that there has been a 67 percent increase in the recruitment of women officers into the army, navy and air force in the last three years.

“There is no proposal to induct women into combat duties in the defence forces including as fighter pilots in the Indian Air Force,” Defence Minister A.K. Antony said in a written reply during question hour.

Though my folks and friends in Services have a ready (and oft repeated) answer, I wish to put this to BRF at large.

Why are women not inducted into non-commissioned ranks?

Anyone?

Why are women not inducted into non-commissioned ranks?

Aren't there any in non-combat roles (mail handling, nurses, clerks, computer operators etc.) in the Indian military?

What does the Indian military do when they need to frisk a bunch of female suspects?

So my question remains...

Why do we imagine a single women NCO surrounded by 20 or 30 men NCO's? What are the arguements if it were a case equal ratio of men or women NCOs?

PS: The issue of a lone woman surrounded by 2 dozen testosterone charged young men (as in the blogpost likn) in fact goes against the case of women officers in combat.

Experiences of Western armies are as useful as "I suppose" situations.

There are cultural issues involved.

You seem to confusing culture with biology

And you also seem to know what all other Indian men think.

among my family members and friends that are in the Services

...the view on the topic is quite different from yours...I wished to know what is the opinion of BRFites on the topic

I think I get a drift of your opinion. Thanks and lets move on.

What I am against is political correctness that might be detrimental to organizational effectiveness. The services have, in cases, been forced to create billets when none were required to accomodate women officers.

Yes because they toe the feminazi line and want to be PC.

Most of the people who make these recommendations never served a day in their life, if you talk to guys serving in the US Military most of them detest the women because of the preferential treatment they get from basic training onward. I have a buddy serving as a grunt and he sure as hell hates all of them, just go to US Infantry pages on FB and see what they are saying.