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PostPosted: 03 May 2012 10:23 
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Court allows Italian ship to leave India
In a conditional relief to Italy, whose merchant ship was seized following the shooting to death of two Kerala fishermen by two marines on board, the Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed the vessel to leave India, along with the crew and the remaining marines.
Honestly, if what I understand is correct, I dont see a problem here. The ship and the *remaining crew & marines* are the parties who are going back. The people who did the actual firing are NOT going any where. If I get this right the two prime accused are still in Indian custody. Scientific evidence collections from the ship and questioning of the other marines and crew are completed. If they have to be summoned as witnesses, then the court has got the commitment from the shipping company that they can be produced within 5 weeks. There is no point in detaining a huge ship and people who are not connected with the actual crime.


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Court allows Italian ship to leave India
In a conditional relief to Italy, whose merchant ship was seized following the shooting to death of two Kerala fishermen by two marines on board, the Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed the vessel to leave India, along with the crew and the remaining marines.
Honestly, if what I understand is correct, I dont see a problem here. The ship and the *remaining crew & marines* are the parties who are going back. The people who did the actual firing are NOT going any where. If I get this right the two prime accused are still in Indian custody. Scientific evidence collections from the ship and questioning of the other marines and crew are completed. If they have to be summoned as witnesses, then the court has got the commitment from the shipping company that they can be produced within 5 weeks. There is no point in detaining a huge ship and people who are not connected with the actual crime.

Thats correct. Ship and other crew are not required for further investigation and need not be detained. The two accused are still in custody. If chargesheet is not filed within 90 days or after such extension of time as may be allowed by the Judicial magistrate they become entitled for Bail. If they are guaranteed to be produced by the Country or if CBI says it can produce them as required by the sessions court then they could be released. Afterall one need not be under custody without proper trial and conviction and sentencing. Trail would take years to finalise and by that time these marines would either grow old or be dead. Families have taken monies and those who were killed could not have earned as much in their productive lifetime. There are thousands of crimes/murders committed and not all reach a conclusion. If this trial is not reached finality none would be a loser except for the country as a whole. Sad but real.But what the heck...


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The two accused are still in custody. If chargesheet is not filed within 90 days or after such extension of time as may be allowed by the Judicial magistrate they become entitled for Bail.

We need to watch out for this. With media interest going down and the relatives of the dead people made their quick money, things would fall silent now. Media etc. would only wake up when the accused have got the bail, and have flown back home. Then politicians would start the blame game and media joins in.


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The Christian Machinery at work again as they use you against you:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Congress-TDP-demand-action-against-Jaganmohan-Reddy-for-flouting-temple-rules/articleshow/12983845.cms

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The leaders of both the parties accused Jaganmohan Reddy, a Christian, of showing disrespect to other religions and disturbing the sanctity of the Balaji temple.


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The Christian Machinery at work again as they use you against you:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Congress-TDP-demand-action-against-Jaganmohan-Reddy-for-flouting-temple-rules/articleshow/12983845.cms

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The leaders of both the parties accused Jaganmohan Reddy, a Christian, of showing disrespect to other religions and disturbing the sanctity of the Balaji temple.

It is the congress machinery which is afraid that Jagan is taking Reddys(converted and non-converted) and christians(many fishermen & SCs have converted) along with them, so they are trying to create a split.

popcorn time. :wink:


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It is the congress machinery which is afraid that Jagan is taking Reddys(converted and non-converted) and christians(many fishermen & SCs have converted) along with them, so they are trying to create a split.

popcorn time. :wink:


Much ado about nothing. Media seems to be dragging TDP name also while it is Congress and Jagan drama. Congress and Jagan want to split TDP votes and share in PRP-style operation by doing all sorts of dramas but so far no success is seen except that they're splitting their own votebanks.

What Hindus must try is separation of State and Temple. Temples should be off-limits to these crook politicians.


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Absconding IM men seek Mulayam help


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A real wierd article by Swami here. His thrust seems to be that Tiger is innocent and whatever he did was only because of the riots and so, he isnt to be blamed fully :-?
Babri Masjid ghosts emerge from tale of Bolton terror suspect to be extradited to India

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Early in 2010, detectives walked into a grocer's store in Bolton, 16 km from Manchester, looking for a man his closest friends called “Tiger.” For 17 years, police in Gujarat had been hunting for Muhammad Hanif Patel, wanted for his alleged role in a 1993 grenade attack on a train which left an eight-year-old girl dead and 12 people injured.

This week, the greying 54-year-old businessman lost a desperate legal battle to avoid extradition to India. His trial, when it begins later this summer, will exhume some of India's most painful post-independence history.

In December 1992 when Hindutva groups demolished the Babri Masjid sparking off murderous communal violence nationwide, Mr. Patel was a successful construction magnate. His United Kingdom-based father, Umarji Patel, belonged to an influential Muslim family, part of Surat's well-heeled business élite. Mr. Patel busied himself organising relief camps for the thousands of Muslims displaced in the violence, often carried out by police-backed mobs.

He also, police claim, participated in a plan to kill.

Babri Masjid to Black Friday

From evidence produced during the trials of several men already convicted for the bombing, at least some of Surat's besieged Muslims felt the need for more muscular kinds of assistance. The former State Minister and Fisheries Board Chairman Mohammad Surti — who received a 20-year sentence for his role in the bombing last year — called top ganglord Abdul Latif for help. In April 1993, Mr. Latif is alleged to have met with Mr. Surti, his son Farooq Surti, local Congress politician Iqbal Wadiwala, Husain Ghadiyali, Salim Chawal and Mr. Patel himself.

Later that month, Mr. Ghadiyali drove a Maruti van, with a dozen hand-grenades, two Kalashnikov rifles, and a hundred rounds of ammunition to Surat. The grenade thrown at the Gujarat Express on April 22, 1993 was intended to have demonstrated that killing Muslims would not be cost-free.

Nothing in the Gujarat Police's files, or the trial records, suggests Mr. Patel had a direct role in the bombing. Mr. Ghadiyali, whose wife tied a rakhi on the ganglord's wrist each year in a ritual gesture of brotherhood, was the central actor. :-?
Mr. Latif — later to die in a controversial encounter — was no jihadist. Long, a key figure in Gujarat's lucrative bootleg racket, he had clawed his way into the State's élite by ruthlessly eliminating his rivals. He won support by acting as a source of patronage and protection — and bought impunity by building a close relationship with the local Congress. In 1987, then in jail facing trial on murder charges, he fought and won elections from five Ahmedabad municipal wards.

In the wake of the 1992-1993 carnage, ganglords like Mr. Latif came under pressure from communities torn apart by communal violence — and turned to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate for help. In February 1993, Karachi-based ganglord Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar ordered networks to stage reprisal attacks. From a confessional statement made by Dawood Ibrahim's lieutenant Usman Gani Merchant, we have some idea of what was discussed at the meeting, where the decision for ‘revenge' was taken.

Mr. Kaskar's operatives set off 13 improvised explosive devices in Mumbai on March 12, 1993, killing more than 250 people — the largest terrorist attack in India's history, known popularly as the Black Friday bombings. The explosives, grenades and assault rifles used in the course of the revenge operation were provided by the ISI, which hoped to set off a communal war in India.

The weapons used in Surat, investigators later discovered, were part of a larger consignment of 57 Kalashnikov assault rifles, several dozen grenades given to Mr. Latif by Mr. Kaskar, with instructions to carry out similar operations in Gujarat.

Led by a Latif gang member called Rasool Khan ‘Party,' his nickname derived from slang for businessman, the crime syndicate carried out strikes in a Surat marketplace, and at eight locations in Ahmedabad — killing 10.

Mr. Latif fled India for a time, dumping his remaining cache of 30 assault rifles and grenades in Jharnea, in Madhya Pradesh. Police allege the weapons were transported there by Sohrabuddin Sheikh, who was killed in a 2005 shootout with the Gujarat Police, now known to have been staged to settle a business-related feud. In 1995, Mr. Latif returned to India after a falling-out with Dawood Ibrahim, and was killed in a controversial encounter.

Following the murderous 2002 communal riots in Gujarat, elements of the group built alliances with jihadist groups, laying the foundations for a new phase of retaliatory violence. Rasool Khan ‘Party' hid out in Hyderabad, where he made contact with controversial Islamist cleric Maulana Mohammad Naseeruddin. Following the murderous 2002 communal riots in Gujarat, Rasool Khan is alleged to have funded the travel of jihad recruits to training camps in Pakistan. Mr. Khan, like other key figures in these networks, is thought to be in Pakistan

All the right keywords ticked:
Hindutva, murderous 2002 riots ( mentioned 5-6 times), all the gangsters suffixed with a "Mr" etc.


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On April 24, 2012, the Himachal Pradesh Police quietly dropped all criminal charges against Ogyen Trinley Dorje. Known as Black Hat Lama, Ogyen Trinley Dorje is a claimant to the title of 17th Karmapa and head of the influential Karma Kagyu school of Tibetan Buddhism. Backed by powerful
mentor priest, Taisitu Rinpoche, Ogyen even has the support of the Dalai Lama to the Karmapa title. The criminal case was related to seizure of Indian and foreign currency, including Chinese Yuan, amounting to nearly R6 crore from Gyotu monastery in Sidhbari in Kangra district after Ogyen’s key aide, Shakti Lama, was caught by the Una police carrying unaccounted one crore rupees in cash on January 26, 2011. Lama was caught red handed in a benami land deal on behalf of Karmae Garchen trust, which was then said to be headed by Dorje.

This was the culmination of a complex, nuanced and multi-layered game played between Indian intelligence agencies, rival high lamas of Tibetan Buddhism and watched by Chinese rulers of Tibet. The biggest gainer in the cash seizure controversy was Ogyen’s arch rival Trinley Thaye Dorje, the second claimant to the 17th Karmapa title, the Black Hat and riches in the Rumtek Monastery in Sikkim. Said to be propped up by a section of the Indian internal security establishment, Trinley Thaye Dorje and his mentor Shamar Rinpoche are based in a Kalimpong monastery.

To his credit, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh saw through the complex game after a high level Buddhist delegation met him on January 29, 2011 in support of Ogyen Trinley Dorje. After discussing the issue with his principal advisors, the PM was clear that as Tibetan refugees, the Karmapa or his supporters could only buy land in India through benami transactions which normally involve cash. It was also clear that as the Karmapas supporters were Tibetans, Europeans and Americans, the cash offerings had to be in Chinese Yuan, Euros or US dollars. Despite the public and media calling Ogyen a Chinese agent and Beijing issuing an official statement denying it, a message was sent to then Himachal Chief Secretary, Rajwant Sandhu, (on the sidelines of the annual chief secretaries conference on February 4, 2011) to not escalate the issue, stop the media trial and let the police quitely investigate the high profile case due to rival claimants and powerful lobbies at work.

The tussle over the real incarnation of the 16th Karmapa has been complicated by the circumstances in which Ogyen Trinley Dorje crossed over from the fortified high security Tsurphu Monastery in Kham region of Tibetan Autonomous Region of China to India in 2000. His great escape from Tsurphu on December 28, 1999 to Mustang region on the Tibet-Nepal border, airlift to Kathmandu in the presence of the Dalai Lama’s representative and subsequent entry into India through Raxaul border, surfacing at Dharmsala on January 5, 2000, are shrouded in mystery. Even though the Dalai Lama fully backs Ogyen Trinley Dorje to be the 17th Karmapa, there are genuine concerns within the Indian establishment, and a section believes that he is a Chinese plant. Rival Trinley Thaye Dorje was also born in Tibet but was anointed as 17th Karmapa by Shamar Rinpoche at the Karmapa Buddhist Institute in Delhi in 1994.

In the backdrop of Beijing’s desperation over 35 self-immolations in Kham-Sichuan region, the role of the 17th Karmapa assumes importance since, after the Dalai Lama, he is the second most powerful lama outside China. His word counts in eastern Tibet and could play a soothing role in settling the restive Sichuan region. The other reason is that in case something were to happen to the present 14th Dalai Lama, then Ogyen Dorje would be an important player in forming the search party to seek out the next Dalai Lama, the reincarnation of the head of Gelug school. Beijing would do everything to nix this move. The quest for wearing the Black Hat, rightful heir to the fortunes in Rumtek Monastery, a labrang (branch) of Tsurphu, and the influence of the 17th Karmapa in the sensitive Sikkim-Bhutan region is also an important factor in the political calculus of India and China. All these factors were put on the table before National Security Advisor Shiv Shankar Menon, known China expert, on February 21, 2012 by top officials and intelligence chiefs. It was pointed out that Ogyen Dorje had quit the Karmae Garchen trust six months prior to the cash seizure and hence had nothing to do with the benami land deal. After ensuring that all the principals were on board, the meeting chaired by Menon made a few key decisions.

The first, India will not get involved in the internal politics of the Karma Kagyu school and will give equal status to Ogyen and Trinley but will not allow either of them to take the seat at Rumtek Monastery till the 17th Karmapa reincarnation issue is resolved. Both will be allowed to travel abroad on refugee certificates but will be asked to maintain proper accounts.

While Indian agencies cannot vouch that Ogyen Trinley has nothing to do with Beijing, chances of him being a Chinese agent are extremely remote as he came to India at the age of 14. So by calling him a Chinese agent, India was not only antagonising his supporters and Tibetans at large but also potentially delivering him into Beijing’s lap. Hence, a decision was made to engage Ogyen while watching his statements on China.

Unreasonable action against Ogyen would also annoy the Dalai Lama, whose set-up would be under greater threat if the 17th Karmapa claimant actually had linkages with the Chinese establishment. So as long as Ogyen is not a security threat, New Delhi is not worried about his religious role.

Significantly, Ogyen Trinley was allowed to travel to America twice and his critical statement on Chinese repression and regret over rising self-immolations in Sichuan was also noted with satisfaction. While India recognises Chinese claims over Tibet, it is Beijing which is increasingly getting worried over protests and self-immolations in the highest plateau as force is not working against the rebellious monks. When External Affairs Minister S M Krishna went to meet his Chinese counterpart, Yang Jiechi, in February, he offered Indian help for settling Tibet. Even Chinese high officials have started murmuring about the need to engage India over Tibet. With all the high priests of the four Tibetan Buddhism schools living in India or Bhutan, New Delhi needs Ogyen Trinley and his supporters in the Himalayan belt for its Tibet card.


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X-posting from Red Menace thread.

Very troubling.

India's Maoists are no rag-tag rebels
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Recent interrogations of top-level Maoist leaders in India have revealed that the insurgency now boasts a well-equipped force of some 46,000 combatants organized into companies, platoons and special action teams. Despite the group's swelling numbers and influence, however, it still views guerrilla warfare and high-profile abductions as the best tactics to exploit Delhi's failure to coordinate an anti-insurgent policy.
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Home ministry objects to EU delegation's Nagaland visit without security clearance

Amazing wherever there is some internal unrest in India be it C'Garh Maoists, Orissa, or Kashmir, NE, LTTE . EU diplomats are heavily involved. Wonder what gives?


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This weekend there was an interview (ABN-Andhrajyothy Open Heart with RK program) of Sri Aravind Rao, ex DGP of Andhra Pradesh and he talked about YSR's "Negotiation with Naxals" move in 2004.

He clarifies that the entire AP police and IAS system was unaware of the simple fact that when a state/central government negotiates with a armed/political group, then it will come under international purview and will have ramifications.

The DGP was educated by the central cadre about this and were given their experiences w.r.t Nagaland and other NE negotiations.

On one hand it shows the shortsightedness of state bureaucratic cadre and the need for central cadre (and the supporting federal structures).

The next decade is very important for India because
- A couple of generations are separated from Indic consciousness due to JNU education system (the current generation do not know local languages, poets, philosophers etc., and is more aware of christian and foreign thought leaders in all aspects of life)
- The INC fiasco with Center-state relationships
- The ongoing debate on restructuring central/state cadres of IxS officers
- manufactured sub-identities with foreign support and influence structures.


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This weekend there was an interview (ABN-Andhrajyothy Open Heart with RK program) of Sri Aravind Rao, ex DGP of Andhra Pradesh and he talked about YSR's "Negotiation with Naxals" move in 2004.

He clarifies that the entire AP police and IAS system was unaware of the simple fact that when a state/central government negotiates with a armed/political group, then it will come under international purview and will have ramifications.

The DGP was educated by the central cadre about this and were given their experiences w.r.t Nagaland and other NE negotiations.

On one hand it shows the shortsightedness of state bureaucratic cadre and the need for central cadre (and the supporting federal structures).

The next decade is very important for India because
- A couple of generations are separated from Indic consciousness due to JNU education system (the current generation do not know local languages, poets, philosophers etc., and is more aware of christian and foreign thought leaders in all aspects of life)
- The INC fiasco with Center-state relationships
- The ongoing debate on restructuring central/state cadres of IxS officers
- manufactured sub-identities with foreign support and influence structures.


I'm glad you brought it up. I watched that excellent interview yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPeHvQi1cYI (in Telugu)

He made some good points related to internal security and India needs to reflect as it is coming from the man who had whole experience in AP state intelligence and dealt heavily and successfully with Naxals.

(These are my understanding not word-for-word translation:)
* Naxalites had ideological convictions at the begging but no more. Now many are stuck there as Naxals so they don't want to lose their identity when they come back. They are mostly used for political machinations.

* Nagaland like peace accord was wanted to rubbed on AP Naxals by foreign powers such as Britain and Canada. He heavily resisted institutionalizing and internationalizing such issues instead of local dealing with them. He says Naxal puppeteers want to internationalize and make accords so they can install observers in the Naxal areas and take control and monitor the areas instead of it being internal issue.

* Indirectly hints that EJs are danger to India. Billions are being generated to engage in EJ activity.

Added later: You may want to check this one also that shows up next to the above video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG-OYibr72E (in English)


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EJ and Naxal links have to be exposed widely inside India


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Pak bid to ‘grab’ Dawood aide from Thailand foiled

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India has foiled Pakistan’s bid to secure the custody of Muzakkir Sayyed alias Munna ‘Jinga’, a Mumbai-born aide of fugitive Indian don Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar, from Thailand.Sayyed, a sharpshooter, had led an attack on rival don Chhota Rajan in Bangkok in September 2000.

The 10-year jail term of Sayyed, who was housed at a Bangkok prison facility after being convicted for orchestrating the attack on Rajan, ended recently. Pakistani diplomats, allegedly armed with fake documents and passport details of Sayyed that identified him as a citizen of their country, had contacted their counterparts in Thailand a few weeks ago - while he was still incarcerated in a Bangkok prison facility — to “grab him”, said a CBI official on the condition of anonymity.

“Pakistani officials told Thai authorities that Sayyed was a Pakistani citizen — on the basis of papers submitted by them, including a fake passport created after his flight to Karachi from Mumbai in 1999 — and demanded that he be deported to their country as per Thailand laws,” said the official.

It was suspected that Sayyed and five other members of the team, which attacked Rajan on Dawood’s orders, had allegedly received training and logistical help from the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Incidentally, the ISI is also suspected to have sponsored the don’s stay and activities since his orchestration of the March 1993 Mumbai serial blasts.

Alerted by the Indian embassy in Bangkok and the Research & Analysis Wing (R&AW), the CBI scrambled to halt Pakistan’s attempts to take Sayyed with them in the nick of time.

“The Thai authorities had already accepted the Pakistani position. But we challenged their contention and got the deportation stayed,” the official said.

“Thailand is likely to deport Sayyed to India soon,” said the official, “But Pakistan is cagey about India getting hold of Sayyed because he can divulge details on how its agencies had abetted the attack on Rajan, which was an act of international terrorism.”


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Letting Pakistan exist is an act of international terrorism.


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Even Chinese high officials have started murmuring about the need to engage India over Tibet. With all the high priests of the four Tibetan Buddhism schools living in India or Bhutan


India should begin by reiterating UN resolutions that call for a plebiscite in Tibet, negotiate taking back of Aksai China, integration of the Kailash Mansarover region with India, withdrawal of China from the Shakgam valley and POK. That are the topics that we should be discussing on the table with the Chinese every time we meet up with them.


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Another candidtae arrives who will be promptly arrested next week at a bus/railway station in XYZ city:
Engineer held in Saudi may be original IM link to Bihar

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Investigators believe that Faseeh Mehmood, an engineer from Darbhanga who was arrested by the Saudi Arabian police earlier this week, is the Indian Mujahideen’s (IM) original link to Bihar.

Mehmood, sources claim, attended an IM programme in Bhatkal around 2005 and left India after the crackdown on the organisation in 2008. He was introduced to the Bhatkal brothers, Riyaz and Iqbal, by another IM member, they say. Investigators claim Mehmood later did “talent-spotting” for IM.

Mehmood is one of the nearly dozen Indian terror suspects who investigators believe are in Saudi Arabia. He was reportedly arrested on May 13 and is expected to be deported soon. His wife has already been deported.


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Recall the French terrorist who got shot in France? Here is latest scoop on him and his targets;

Slain terrorist Merah planned to attack Indian embassy in Paris


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Mohamed Merah, the terrorist who was shot dead by the French Special Forces in Toulouse on March 22, had also planned to attack the Indian Embassy in Paris, French daily Le Monde reported.

Quoting sources from the Central Directorate of Internal Intelligence and the Special Forces who took part in the 32-hour siege of Merah, Le Monde alleges that the young killer's Taliban handlers in Pakistan had ordered him to attack the Indian mission here. “That was the target given him by the Taliban who prepared him for jihad during his training in Pakistan in the summer of 2011,” Le Monde reported. However, the paper says, Merah finally decided against the attack, given the difficulty of the enterprise. These conversations between Merah and Special Forces personnel were recorded and they are now part of the judicial dossier.


Merah first killed three Army personnel outside their barracks on March 15. Four days later, he killed a Jewish Rabbi and his two sons at a faith school, and then chased and killed a seven-year-old girl on the school premises. Throughout, he filmed his acts with a video camera strapped to his chest.

During the 32-hour siege, which ended in a bloody gun battle, he spoke freely to policemen who continued to interrogate him over telephone. All these conversations were recorded.

When asked by The Hindu whether this report was a matter of serious concern for the Indian government, Ambassador Rakesh Sood said: “The news report in Le Monde is something we have taken note of. We have also taken it up with the authorities in France, in terms of the veracity of the story as well as necessary steps to strengthen the security arrangements at the Embassy and the Residence.”

Had Merah carried out his plans, was the Embassy protected enough or was it vulnerable? To this question, Mr. Sood said the report, quoting Merah, said he found the Embassy a difficult target. “Therefore what exactly had he intended to do and that he was unable to do is something that is difficult to know, now that he is no more. It is difficult to figure out what exactly he had in mind. But somewhere in the Le Monde report it does say that he desisted because of the difficulty of the task. In any case, we are taking steps to strengthen the protection of the Embassy.”

Lured into jihad

Well-placed sources in France who cannot be quoted say the French intelligence services are extremely worried over the growing radicalisation within the Muslim community here. France has the largest concentration of Muslims in Europe, an estimated five million and it is often the young, under-educated and unskilled Muslims of Arab origin, who are radicalised and lured into jihad.

Merah is exactly one such youth of Algerian extraction. During his conversations with the policemen, he deplored the fact that he had not killed enough victims. “I did not kill enough,” he said, adding he did not fear the Special Forces surrounding his first floor apartment “because they love life, while I prefer death.”

Elder brother being questioned

The police are questioning his elder brother, Abdelkader Merah (29), who remains in isolation at the prison in Fresnes. The older Merah admits he helped his brother steal the scooter Mohamed Merah used during the killings. The younger Merah would carry out armed robberies to finance his trips to Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan, Iraq or Israel. The fact that he travelled to Israel has given rise to the suspicion that Merah was an intelligence agent or at least a pawn used by the French spy agencies. With a name like Merah, the Israelis would have been extremely reticent to let him in despite his having a French passport, unless they had the green light from French services.




What can be expected is the use of non-TSP origin terrorist by TSP in and against India. The signals are clear.


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^ Ramanaji, remember the KS article which warned the Goras about the upcoming Agoras amidst them?


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IB confirming Mahmood is in Indian custody and is being interrogated. :D Word on the street is that IB used a relative of his to visit him in KSA a few times and gather intel. IB has good relations with our counterparts in KSA and Director IB visited Riyadh last year. So with the help of our counterparts we have got a good result.

Now lets not cock this up like we cocked up the Abu Dhabi extradited IM Bhatkal guy on Pune blast case.

Deported engineer from Saudi may be IM man
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Faseeh Mahmood, an engineer from Dammam in Saudi Arabia, was brought to India on terror charges a couple of days ago. While his arrest is officially pending confirmation, sources say that this man, who hails from Darbhanga in Bihar, is being questioned in connection with certain terror incidents undertaken by the Indian Mujahideen [ Images ] in the country.

Mahmood was arrested in Saudi Arabia and deported to India. A day after his deportation, his wife too was moved to India.

Mahmood's name is said to have sprung up during the interrogation of Kafeel Akthar who is currently in custody of the Bengaluru [ Images ] police for his alleged role in the Chinnaswamy stadium blasts in April, 2010.

The arrest of Akhtar in Bihar recently came in the spotlight after Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar protested vehemently against the 'unlawful arrest' undertaken by the Karnataka [ Images ] police.

Meanwhile, police and intelligence officials consider Mahmood's arrest to be an important breakthrough. Although none of the agencies would like to come to any definitive conclusion regarding Mahmood, police sources say that they would continue to look for more leads in this case.

However, what some officials say that this arrest does prove that the IM still relies heavily on its Gulf network to carry out terror operations. The questioning of many IM operatives specific to the Chinnaswamy stadium blasts have told the police that all its funding came through a network in the Gulf.

Money continues to be wired in through networks such as hawala and the operatives do use it for their operations. In the recent few cases it has been found that the money was sent in from the Gulf and wired to an operator in Delhi [ Images ] who in turn passed on the money to top IM operative Yasin Bhatkal. The hawala operative was paid Rs 1.50 lakh for this operation, sources say.

A lot appears to be emerging from the investigations into the stadium blasts. It has had its roots not only in Bihar but has been linked to modules also based in Saudi Arabia.

Akthar's interrogation has led the police to some operatives who had provided the logistic details for the blasts.

The police will now try and ascertain what link Akthar had with Mahmood. It is being said both hailed from the same place in Bihar. Another link which the agencies are trying to look into is whether Mahmood had any link with Yasin Bhatkal. It is said that Mahmood pursued his higher studies from a college in Bhatkal, a coastal town in Karnataka.

His family has, however, reacted sharply to the arrest and swears that he has no links with any terror group.


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Can India and Pakistan swap lands to fulfill religious aspirations of Sikhs?

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Member Parliament from Gurdaspur Partap Singh Bajwa has floated the idea of swapping uninhabited land across river Ravi in Gurdaspur district with Gurdwara Kartarpur Sahib situated in Narowal district of Pakistan.

"This seems to be the only plausible solution enabling Sikh devotees to pay hassle free obeisance at Gurdwara Kartarpur Sahib which is part of daily prayer of Sikhs" said Bajwa.


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What about Nanakana Sahib? Also if the gurdwara is on West Bank of the Ravi how does he expect to defend it?


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IB confirming Mahmood is in Indian custody and is being interrogated. :D Word on the street is that IB used a relative of his to visit him in KSA a few times and gather intel. IB has good relations with our counterparts in KSA and Director IB visited Riyadh last year. So with the help of our counterparts we have got a good result.

Shouldnt RAW be doing all the heavy lifting and using its operatives in the Gulf to track all these guys?

Shouldn't RAW be having relations with Saudi intel? Why are we exposing a internal intel agency like IB to Saudis ( who will promptly report everything to their munna, TSP)?


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Shouldn't RAW be having relations with Saudi intel? Why are we exposing a internal intel agency like IB to Saudis ( who will promptly report everything to their munna, TSP)?

I am at least happy that IB is doing some thing excellent and RAW is not throwing the spanners to halt the good work. We always blame the agencies for the turf-wars but at least here we see things not going that way.


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^^That is true Sachin-sir but my doubt was because RAW is supposed to be the nodal agency for any foreign agency liason. Are we making case by case exemptions and allowing foreign agencies to directly access/interact with NTRO/IB/MI folks?


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It would have been a case of DIB dealing directly with high level officials. And by the way, the gulf helped us crack the ISI hand in Bangalore blasts amongst other (without them we would have been groping in the dark) and provided intel that actually implicated ISI. Things have changed.

And even historically, Gulf is a neutral zone and allowed India to do intel related things (won't talk about specifics) but at the same time allowed D co to run their biz. But no one hears of all that. Do you think the agents we run in various countries - we promise them a new life in India??

We should be pleased that Gulf is cooperating on terror


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Govt to 'tag' ammonium nitrate bags

New Delhi, May 20, 2012

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To prevent the usage of ammonium nitrate in making IEDs, the home ministry is working on tagging the industrially manufactured fertiliser with inert chemicals, so the source can be traced if the compound is used in future bomb blasts. A favourite of the Indian Mujahideen, ammonium nitrate
has been used in a majority of the terror blasts in India since 2005, claiming nearly 500 victims. It was last used in the July 13, 2011 serial blasts in Mumbai.

In a high-level meeting last week, chaired by home secretary RK Singh, a number of decisions were taken in principle to control the use of commercial explosives and triggers in terror attacks by jihadist groups and Maoists rebels. The meeting was attended by representatives of the Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion (DIPP), National Investigation Agency (NIA) and the Intelligence Bureau.

It was decided in the meeting that stocks of ammonium nitrate manufacturers would be checked monthly by area district magistrates or superintendents of police to ensure that there is no pilferage of the chemical , or diversion during transportation. It was agreed that the manufacturing company would be held accountable under the Indian Explosive Act if such incidents take place. As it is 45% pure, ammonium nitrate is deemed as an explosive under the Act.

DIPP sources said while there was a suggestion that ammonium nitrate bags be tagged so they could be traced to the original manufacturer, Singh was in favour of introducing an inert chemical of different strength or colour into each bag of ammonium nitrate. This would not only deter terrorists but also help in police investigations.

The other decision was to explore the possibility of increasing the timing of commercially available triggers to give paramilitary forces a fighting chance against IEDs in areas infested by Left Wing Extremists.


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Why not add ammonium sulphate which is hygroscopic and wont let it explode and same time adds to the fertilizer effectiveness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygroscopic


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Ford to spend $250,000 on seven Tamil Nadu villages

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Global automotive giant Ford Motor Company will spend $250,000 on the education, safety, environment and health and welfare of the seven village communities around its plant near here, a top company official said Tuesday.

"We have got a grant of $250,000 from Ford Motor Company Fund managing the initiative Operation Goodwill in partnership with its international grant maker, the Global Giving Foundation. In the first phase, we will be spending $125,000 on the four ares of our focus through three non-governmental organisations (NGO)," Michael Boneham, the company's president and managing director, told reporters here.

Ford has a plant at Maraimalainagar, around 50 km from here. The move is part of the company's corporate social responsibility (CSR) initiative.

According to Boneham, the company will run the programme with the assistance of Global Giving, local NGOs, volunteers and employees of Ford India and Ford Global Business Services.

He said Ford's subsidiaries in India - Ford India and Ford Global Business Services - have been carrying out CSR activities through their employees all these years and as the grant is received for the first time it was decided to rope in NGOs who are focussed on these areas.

He said the three NGOs will have to complete their projects within a year and there are strict monitoring mechanisms.

"We will make a separate announcement as to the remaining amount of the grant," he said.

According to him, the grant under the Operation Goodwill programme of Ford Motor Company Fund is one time as of now.

The three NGOs that will be executing the projects on behalf of Ford are Aid India, Society for Technology and Advancement for Rural Action (TARA) and Society for Poor Peoples Development (SPPD).

One of the projects under the grant includes setting up 20 after-school tutoring centres near Ford's factory to coach government school students.The project will be executed by Aid India.

"The objective is to ensure that every child achieves basic outcomes in language, maths, English and science and gets prepared to face the world with confidence. We will train teachers who will train the students," Balaji Sampath, secretary of Aid India, said.

"We are going to reach out to 14 schools in seven villages where we will be providing access to safe drinking water, sanitation facilities through installation of 14 water filters and 14 toilets for the girl students. The average student population per school is around 700 and we hope to benefit around 3,000 girl students through our toilets," Meghna Das, manager, environmental programme, TARA, said.

She said a need assessment will have to be done during the first six months and the project execution - building of toilets and others - would take another six months.

On its part, SPPD would train women in the age group 18-45 in the seven villages in tailoring so that they can get good jobs in garment units or they can become entrepreneurs, said its secretary J.Raju.


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Two quick points:

1. Need some published info (if there is any) about maovadis' known offensive and defensive tactics
when engaged in operations.

2. (This should go to BD thread though)....BNP has approached Bharat to help it defeat AL in the next
election. It is dangling more BD gas and port facilities to us.


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5 killed in low-intensity explosion in Allahabad
Article has local map too.


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Police in India to carry BlackBerry smartphones
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We've written a few posts in the past about UK Police Forces taking up the BlackBerry solution in order to aid them in getting more Police Officers out on the streets policing instead of constantly being in the Police Stations filing paper work. One Police Force had even added the a fingerprint scanner attachment to their BlackBerry devices to be able to ID perps they've stopped on the streets a lot faster. It seems that India is following suit in the city of Bangalore, where the police computer wing of Karnataka state police put up the proposal. It differs to the UK in that this BlackBerry solution is for the traffic police in order to help them produce on the spot fines for violating motorists. There are currently 750 police officers in the traffic wing of Bangalore city police who have been issued with BlackBerry devices. They have also been provided with Bluetooth enabled printers so that documents can be printed on the spot. It is said that the implementation of this BlackBerry solution will also add another 250 police officers to aid in manning the traffic in the busy city. News like this is just another testament to how reliable the BlackBerry solution is in providing people with the tools they need to carry out tasks without being tied to the desk.


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And the company monitors everything!

one rule is take out the battery out of your BB when you need to go to secure areas.

and leave them both outside.

Fools.


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http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=18679 The task force is a follow-up action of the government to a similar first-ever focused exercise carried out under strategic affairs expert, the late K. Subramanyam.


ramana. any dots connecting from your brain cache what would be the changes envisaged?


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The task force under Naresh Chandra had former Intelligence Bureau chief P.C. Haldar, former Research and Analysis Wing chief K.C. Verma, former National Investigation Agency chief Radha Vinod Raju, former Indian Navy chief Admiral Arun Prakash, former Indian Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy, and former Director General of Military Operations lt. Gen. V.R. Raghavan, apart from bureaucrats Brajeshwar Singh and Vinod K. Duggal as members.



Other members of the task force were National Council of Applied Economic Research director Suman K. Berry, former diplomat and high commissioner to Pakistan G. Parthasarathy, former Atomic Energy Commission chairman Anil Kakodkar, former Mumbai Police commissioner D. Sivanandan, and journalist Manoj Joshi.


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Was summarized by a poster on facebook:

The incident is where a soldier working in AMC-Pune was on a vacation to Kerala, Calicut, Nadhapuram precisely. This chap was surrounded by a bunch of radical Islamists of NDF (a group funded and supported by Muslim League in Kerala) and was beaten up mercilessly. During the scuffle, he did mention that he was a soldier. When they heard that, they got more aggressive with people in the group calling out that "You kill our brothers in Kashmir we won't leave you" and this and that. He was beaten up and later thrown outside that village limit in the drainage. Police did an Enquiry, in which it emerged that the accused had already left the country and were in Middle-East. The incident was covered by ASIANET. I watched this program almost 2 years ago and I have been trying to trace this news for years, now I found it accidently. Sad part is the case is still not closed and the poor soldier still hasn't recovered. And this is the status of a military man. Just imagine about other people.... !!!


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^^shocking!!

I can see civil war, if gov/public administration do not take preventive steps. proactive approach is required and the need of the hour. but then gullibility can never be overtaken.


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^^^Its not gullibility. It is deliberate and a calculated risk. A cost-benefit analysis has been made that says, that the inner core of ruling network coteries and related biz interests will be more than compensated for by cuts from external financial inflows and safe-passage guarantees. In return the wider society has to be given up to flow-connected theologies.

The coercive forces are interspersed with controlling eyes and ears who are themselves so much so on the dark sides personally - that they will always remain bound to blackmail by ruling interests. Hence no civil war.


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