Bharat Rakshak

come onn

do not question the Saint

she did donate 3.5 lakhs

this like US senators getting paid in preferred stock and IPOs

sigh

on a different note wonder what triggered this belated journalism??

lots of back stabbing going to occur

^^ Truely a saint onlee. Just ensure nothing is done overtly.

What next? Painting by his children to be bought by PMO for xx crore to adorn their buildings?

Is this news report punishment for not firing VKS during the scandal?

I trust Antony more than any Prakash from India Today.



and how much "sources" paid him? I am sure it won't be like that.. one fine morning he just woke up and thought to go to AAI and investigate about paintings they have bought!

My response to Peter two days ago :




Well, since writing this, Anthony's holy image has been blown sky high ! Talk about cosmic forces in operation.
I have never believed in all that baloney about "Saint" Anthony.

Expect more revelations about this self-proclaimed Saint.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/defe ... 01258.html

Heavy Artillery battalion moved to LoC as Pak shells Poonch posts again

Dont worry the Best part is that his spouse made a INR 3.5 Lacs donation as per the link to the Cancer trust.

But then again we are all fools, all this 28 crore, INR 3.5 Lacs for a man who a few months ago made a Declaration that the Net Worth of him and his immediate family is..........


Yes you guessed - INR 1.92 Lacs. Talk about honesty.

OT- FWIW

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 7743204907

Let us keep this out of here.

Didnt this one rumor start from India Today?

Folsk the above posts are not related to Indian Army News and Discussions. There are many threads to discuss 2G scams etc. Please go there.

Thanks, ramana

Indo-Pak flag-meeting to be held on Poonch LoC

Well Pakistan has developed enough Confidence therefore the moot point would be for all wannabe pissniks whether CBM and Siachen is still required to further boost Paki confidence

Cross post from the Pakistani thread, since the initial discussion was on this thread -
There was some angst in the forum at that time why India doesnt respond. We could have blasted with our Arty guns, but the payback required a personal visit. We just skip the publicity and straining our vocal chords.

Just one forward post targetted?

Spoke to a someone, he said BSF add mirch masala to the story usually but just those 2 sectors (poonch and krishna Ghatti) are a problem because both sides have aggressive commanders in those sectors.

Yes, bloody aggressive on BOTH sides. To solve only one side has to be less aggressive as a CBM India should put Arundhati Roy as a commander, overseen by some on from GCC.

That would be a really chankian case, and would remove all chance of foreign interference by others in J&K if India was to lift a tiny little finger to protect itself -- since the people in question would have direct view and can see that India is indeed not doing any little thing to save itself.

In such a manner we will proactively foreclose any chance of UN intervention.

Now clap for me please.

Clap clap - hindu's are weaaak onleee

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Its obvious what the Paki's are trying to do - they are desperate that it is high summer and only few such incidents have taken place. So they have started a fire on the border - landmines blew up and fence got damaged. They provide covering fire for terrorists to cross. Good to see we are winning.

Does it mean that other sectors are quiet because the commanders are "weak" on our side?

Also, how can loosing 3 jawans due to hostile enemy action within 3-4 days be termed mirch-masala? Are we supposed to downplay even the deaths of our jawans as a CBM?

Heartening news, fear of retribution in the enemy brings in some sense of responsibility in their criminal use of a rifle

we should cover these ceasefire violations with an UAV aerial video recording including the terrorists they are trying to protect

and for all the paki claims about dead woman and children, they should bring the bodies, if at all there are bodies for these flag meetings so post mortem can be done on the time of death and the cause of it

Its a fair question, the answer is no, in most sectors both sides have a decent relationship with each other and if there is a problem its resolved quickly - ample evidence of it. In the article it says the same.

Mirch masala is in reference to the raid by Indian SF - could have just been ordinary jawans.

I say this is bull shit of highest order, to hide pakistani behavior in general and their strategic plans in particular (choice of the hot sectors being because of need to pass terrorists through that sector) -- ASPERSIONS on serving Indian officers and soldiers putting their life on line is made.

This is despicable. Now probably the Jawans who died would also be mocked as being too gung ho and running into pakistani fire directly instead of cowering in holes like decent non aggressive people.

Unless ShyamD can prove that the officers posted were not thorough professionals doing their job, he should have the modicum of good sense to withdraw his diatribe against Indian forces.

Agree +100 with sanku saar.

why do I get a feeling that dhoti roys long last cousins are raiding this esteemed phorum.

^^^
looking at the post count of them thats more like sleeper cells on the phorum, sorry couldn't resist

Sigh MUSAG has now escaped the hot air forum

Lol! Saying BSF based sources to a story usually adds mirch masala to a story = casting aspersions on ALL serving officers? Sanku ji, you are making another desperate attempt here to twist things that I say. This is the second cheap and dirty trick you have pulled after saying last time that I was "misrepresenting the views of other posters" and you know what happened the last time you pulled that trick. That same person who I supposedly "misrepresented" their views came out and confirmed what I said was correct.

Seriously, why are you so desperate to malign me?

So you are basically saying that your unnamed source is telling the truth and The Hindu's unnamed sources are adding mirch masala?

Maybe because he is desperate to call out BS?

Deputy Director General, Discipline and Vigilance under corruption probe
Fall out of the DV ban against Suhag by VKS?
http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/army-orders-court-inquiry-against-brigadier-16547.html

people should learn to differentiate between shyamd and his sources.

there is one???

Strictly speaking in the recent days, I am observing that they are coming to be one and the same. They give a peek into how a faction of the high society thinks.

BR shouldnt lose Shyamd, the journo.

You are now back peddling Sir, this is what you said



saying that BSF adds mirch masla is bad enough. (You couuld have said the Hindu source added mirch masala) -- so you went and denigrated the entire BSF.

And if that was not bad enough -- you claimed that the cross border firing is a issue of individual officers being gung ho -- instead of saying the reality viz " the pakis are nasty creature can not be trusted and will always probe Indian defences" you are giving a free chit to Pakis, and throwing mud of IA officers.

Let me ask you, why are you so desperate to malign those in IA who resist and give Pakis are free chit?

In contrast this is what is really happening on ground.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 559915.ece


There follows in above article a long list of attacks by Pakis on LOC for various reasons (but according to ShyamD all fault of aggressive commanders onlee nothing to do with Pak or Paki army)

what happen to Arjun Mk II trails ? does anyone know ?

Anyone who reads that can easily see what I said is that BSF "usually" add mirch masala to a story - i.e. that you should take it into consideration and that individual who told me that is asking us to take it into consideration.

Which bit is BS?

Well you should definitely have framed your statement better, as I said, question P Swami != saying BSF bull shits. First is valid second not.

Since you are consistently avoiding the fact that your statement tried to down play typical Paki perfidious behavior as a local problem due error on the part of hot-headed commanders on both sides (thus adding TSPA == IA equal equal for good measure) --

I take it you are apologetic about that mistake on your part.

In which case I hope you will come out and clearly say what Sushant Sareen said. That these flare-ups are typical of Pakis trying to push in Jihadis and test the resolve of IA?

Some amount of redemption could be achieved.

The person who I spoke to said that and this person speaks to high level mil, intel and govt officials all the time. He is not saying what happened was untrue - he is simply saying that BSF officers tend to spice up a story - that in no way says BSF are unprofessional or attacking serving officers as you put it.


lol! Quit putting words in my mouth - I am not apologetic, I relayed an opinion of someone and thats it, if you don't believe it or dislike it you are welcome to have your opinion and I don't have a problem with that. KG and Poonch are sectors that are Hot and have been hot for a long time - even Praven Swami article highlights that while both sides were exchanging mithai for eid in the other sectors, they were exchanging fire in Pooch/KG sector.

Where have I disputed that Paki's weren't trying to smuggle terrorists in???

As for the flare ups - I spoke to a retired officer, he said JJ Singh authorised sniper teams in the KG sector in response to Paki sniping at our boys. How much of this is ever reported? Same for the Indian SF operation on a Paki forward base. We only get tiny parts of a story.

Earlier I was saying that Indian SF were conducting reconnaissance inside PRC and we cross into PRC territory as much as they cross into ours - some on BR refused to believe that!! There is a presumption that we are somewhat weak - probably because Indian journo's only talk about what other side is doing - as it causes more of a stir and more readership.