Bharat Rakshak

National security remains a joke. IAF has no vision for the future only GSQRs backed by sexy CFD analysis of projects to nowhere like the AMCA. The navy works better with domestic products but does not seem to take its undersea presence seriously. Will we say goodbye soon to independence that so many sacrifices were made for?

One south american told me recently that the British are coming back to India again. He said Indians are still too British and english even after 60 years

“A second repair will add another 5 to 7 or even 10 years to the submarines’ scheduled 20-year service life,” said Andrei Dyachkov, Director General of Sevmash shipyard, who is expected to take over as the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, which controls 70 per cent of Russia’s s shipbuilding assets, next month. “This will help the Indian Navy maintain its submarine strength in view of delays in the induction of French-built Scorpene subs and in floating a tender for six more diesel-electric submarines,” he said.

One south american told me recently that the British are coming back to India again. He said Indians are still too British and english even after 60 years

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Sindhurakshak crew http://pics.livejournal.com/kuleshovoleg/pic/000s2e8w

Can any one identify the ranks of Submarine officers in the picture ?

This sounds interesting , a 3rd repair would add atleast 5 years to maximum 10 years extending Kilo life to 25-30 years which is as good as a nuclear submarine

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INS Savitri will participate in the National Day celebrations of Seychelles and thereafter be deployed for about two months to undertake surveillance of the Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ) of Seychelles and Mauritius.

The Indian Navy continues to maintain one Dornier aircraft in Seychelles to provide aerial surveillance for the Seychelles EEZ. Another Dornier aircraft is actively flying from Maldives to meet Maldivian requirements of EEZ surveillance and anti-piracy patrols.

The Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) is under construction at the public sector Cochin Shipyard in Kerala. The keel laying for the first IAC, christened INS Vikrant and to weigh about 45,000 tonnes, was done in February 2009 and it is likely to join the Indian Navy service by 2016, as per the revised construction schedule.

India also plans to build another, larger IAC that will weigh about 65,000 tonnes and is likely to be called INS Vishal.

Expressing pride in India’s progress along the road of indigenous shipbuilding, Admiral Verma said the Indian Navy had articulated a perspective plan for development of the force up to 2027, a plan that was “capability-based rather than threat-based”.

The heavy airborne cruiser Admiral Gorshkov, built in Nikolaev as part of Project 1143, was the fourth and last Kiev class ship. The story of this family of aircraft carrier ships began in the 1960s when, after Nikita Khrushchev’s resignation, the USSR resumed creating a large surface fleet.

These heavy aircraft cruisers have a complicated background. Their design was the result of many compromises between the Ministry of the Shipbuilding Industry, the military command, seamen and the Soviet political leadership. The fleet expected to get universal combat ships which were cheaper than the US Navy’s combat aircraft carriers. The air wing was to consist of Ka-25 anti-submarine helicopters, and Yak-36 (Yak-38) vertical take-off and landing aircraft.

Many specialists and naval history enthusiasts are still uncertain about their purpose: some consider them to be fighters; others low-flying attack aircrafts. Yet as fighters they were lagging behind their “classmates”, such as the British Harriers – not to mention the normal MiG-23s, Phantom, etc. Indeed, as low-flying attack aircraft they were at a disadvantage to virtually all then-contemporary winged combat craft of the world’s leading countries.

At the same time, due to the Yak-38’s unsatisfactory combat capabilities it was decided to strengthen the ship’s arsenal by equipping it with anti-ship missiles. The construction of the cruisers for Project 1143 began in July 1970, when the head ship Kyiv was laid down at the Black Sea shipyard in Nikolaev. The fourth ship of the project, Baku (the future Admiral Gorshkov), was laid down eight years later.

The collapse of the USSR ruined plans for modernizing the aircraft carrier, according to which she was to receive the latest Yak-141 vertical takeoff and landing airplanes (VTOL). In 1992, the Gorshkov was docked for repairs, and since then she has never been put into operation again. In February of 1994, two major accidents occurred on board the cruiser in succession: a fire, and a steam pipeline explosion. After that, putting the ship back into service was out of the question.

Talks about the ship’s possible sale to India began back in the late nineties. At that time, plans were discussed of her transformation into a classic aircraft carrier equipped for carrying 20-25 MiG-29 aircrafts. The contract for the sale of the aircraft carrier was inked in 2004. According to its terms, Russia was to supply the ship and a group of carrier-based fighters to India, and to train its crew for the sum of $1.5 billion. The Gorshkov carrier was renamed INS Vikramaditya in the Indian Navy service in honor of one of the country’s historic heroes. The architecture of the modernized Gorshkov is reminiscent of the Admiral Kuznetsov, albeit on a smaller scale.

Interest in the project grew stronger in the summer of 2007, when the default on contract was announced. Initially the ship was to be handed to India in 2008, but works were prolonged till 2010. A wrong assessment of the amount of work needed on a number of the ship’s onboard systems, and the undervalued price of her modernization were named as reasons for the failure.

In the Indian fleet, the Russian-made ship is to replace the Viraat aircraft carrier – the former British Hermes built in 1959, and bought by India in 1985. In 2010, the Viraat’s term of service had already reached 51 years. The Gorshkov was built in 1987. It is interesting, therefore, what fate awaits her in 2038?

It is impossible to answer this question, but it is clear that today the ship is a real trump card for the Indian Navy. The Gorshkov with MiG-29s on board provides the Indian Navy superiority over all its neighbors, including its eternal rival Pakistan. The possible capacities of Chinese ships are uncertain. First of all, there are doubts that the Chinese aviation industry is able to create a full-fledged deck fighter using the Soviet SU-33 bought in Ukraine as a prototype.

As a result, the only navy in the region significantly superior to the Indian Navy is the US Navy. At the same time, the United States desperately needs Indian support in a possible confrontation with China.It can only be guessed, then, upon which side India’s trump card will fall.

Have anybody carefully seen pictures of INS Teg on Tarmak blog.

http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2012/06/i ... fleet.html

I feel both are two different ship.

Any comments??

what is the main difference between Shivalik class frigates vs Talwar class frigates ? (other than indigenous and size)

why we are still depending on US for Engines ? aren't TATA, M&M or L&T capable to build it locally ?

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The officer standing 2nd. from the left is Commander and in the middle the officer standing is the Captain .

Late to this, but fwiw: We can only see the rank insignia on the sleeves of the two that arijitkm has id'd, but I would guess all are Commanders or Captains, going by the braid that's (just about) visible on their cap peaks. Afaict, all have a single row of braid, which would mean Commander or Captain - officers below Commander don't have any braid on their caps; officers above Captain have two rows.

As the officer on the extreme left is wearing aiguilettes (the cords around his shoulder), and is wearing them on his left, he is either on the Naval Attache's staff at the embassy, or an ADC to someone other than the President or a Governor. (ADCs to the President and Governors wear aiguilettes on the right shoulder).

For uniform and protocol trivia enthusiasts, if no-one else! Rgds

this also means the P75I cannot be a heavily modified or greenfield design made to our specs....much longer timeline.

I would say grab bull by horns and go with the Soryu. get the 1st two made in japan and in meantime have them setup production facility here. japan stuff is very costly because they dont export and hence dont gain economy of scale. we can present that opportunity. their corporate sector would surely not mind trumping the koreans for once! their govt needs to get pragmatic though.

Personally me thinks the Shivaliks trump the Talwar class out and out (this is strictly personal opinion onlee)

Late to this, but fwiw: We can only see the rank insignia on the sleeves of the two that arijitkm has id'd, but I would guess all are Commanders or Captains, going by the braid that's (just about) visible on their cap peaks. Afaict, all have a single row of braid, which would mean Commander or Captain - officers below Commander don't have any braid on their caps; officers above Captain have two rows.

As the officer on the extreme left is wearing aiguilettes (the cords around his shoulder), and is wearing them on his left, he is either on the Naval Attache's staff at the embassy, or an ADC to someone other than the President or a Governor. (ADCs to the President and Governors wear aiguilettes on the right shoulder).

For uniform and protocol trivia enthusiasts, if no-one else! Rgds

Vikramaditya trial pics

link

Is it just me or does everybody notice a lot of rust, especially topside?

“I think we will need about five years to develop the first fully-functional prototype [of the hypersonic missile],” Pillai said at an engineering technology forum near Moscow.

“We have already carried out a series of lab tests [of the missile] at the speed of 6.5 Mach,” he said.

Pillai said that the new missile will be made in three variants – ground-launched, airborne, and sea-launched.

The official said the new missiles will be supplied only to India and Russia, without exports to third countries.