Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

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anupmisra wrote:
Jhujar wrote: Taliban release video of beheaded Pakistani soldiers
Goes around and come around Karmic Retribution
The tellibunnies must apologize to the PA or else!
Where are the Duffars of Pakistan to protest this violation of HS&D? How come there is no blockade of supplies to all Madrassas until an apology is tendered by the Taliban? It is fun to watch how a purer army of allah treats a less purer army fighting in the way of allah. AoA!
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Suspect confirms Pakistan role: India
India says a key suspect in the 2008 Mumbai attacks has confirmed Pakistan "state support" for the deadly assault.
ABU Hamza, also known as Sayed Zabiuddin, an Indian-born member of the Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, was detained at Delhi international airport on June 21 when he arrived from the Middle East.
Indian police believe he was one of the handlers based in the Pakistani city Karachi, who issued orders by telephone to 10 Islamist gunmen as they stormed two luxury hotels, a Jewish centre, a restaurant and a train station in Mumbai.
The November 2008 attacks, which India has blamed on Lashkar-e-Taiba, left 166 people dead and more than 300 wounded.
Home Minister P Chidambaram, speaking to reporters in the southern state of Kerala on Wednesday, said police interrogation of Hamza had confirmed Indian accusations that Pakistani state actors were also involved.

"The argument that non-state actors were behind the massacre is no longer valid. He has confirmed that he was in the control room (and) this has confirmed our suspicion that there was some organised effort," Chidambaram said.
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^^^ Wow the SC likes to dispense raakit justice! Well CJ Sleepy is not keeping up with his image! CJ Sab, what if Rental Raja sends a note to the Swiss to get details of Dr. Chaudhry Jr's account?
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Assphuck says that he has had enough of getting ficked in his ass. Or so he wants to convey.

More likely, he is a typical darpok Paki jernail who, when kicked and ficked, wants to quickly duck responsibility.

Kayani declares war on 'Nato aggressors
ISLAMABAD - Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Thursday suspended command and chain system to counter any aggression on borders.

Reliable sources said General Kayani suspended the command and chain system in order to enable the senior officers on the posts to take appropriate action if Pakistani forces come under attack.

The Chief of the Army Staff issued these orders on Wednesday night. According to which, the Pakistani military officer in the area will be responsible for retaliation against any aggressors in that particular area and he will be provided all kind of assistance that he will ask for.

He also said that the Pakistan Air Force should have taken action when NATO helicopters violated the Pakistani airspace and attacked the Pakistani checkposts in Mohmand Agency last Saturday, the sources maintained.

This was the first time after occupation of Afghanistan by allied forces that a Pakistani army chief, fed up of continuous border aggression, has issued such orders.
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An incident of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence targeting a Cleric in Karachi that went awry. Not clear though if this was a case of a sectarian assassination attempt by members of the Shia. sect of Mohammadenism that went awry or if this was a case of a sub-sectarian attempt by Barelvi members of the Sunni sect of Mohammaddenism that went awry.

When will the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan learn that the routine targeting of Mohammadden Clerics by fellow Mohammaddens is hardly conducive to propagating the message that Mohammaddenism is a Religion of Peace ?:

ASWJ leader escapes murderous attack
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jrjrao wrote:Assphuck says that he has had enough of getting ficked in his ass. Or so he wants to convey.

More likely, he is a typical darpok Paki jernail who, when kicked and ficked, wants to quickly duck responsibility.

Kayani declares war on 'Nato aggressors
ISLAMABAD
He also said that the Pakistan Air Force should have taken action when NATO helicopters violated the Pakistani airspace and attacked the Pakistani checkposts in Mohmand Agency last Saturday, the sources maintained.
Too true. And it is evident from the news item itself where he blames the PAF for allowing the NATO attack to occur.
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X Posted from the “Mumbai Terrorist Attack-News stories and timeline” thread.

Yet more denial from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan of its culpability in the Mohammadden Terrorist Jihadi attack on Mumbai:
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JRJ/Shiv: That news item is from Dec 2011!
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Disappointing that the US let him off. Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed as he does have an established track record of supporting Mohammadden Jihadi Terrorists:

Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed briefly detained at Houston airport

JKLF Chief Yasin Malik confirms Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed’s support for Mohammadden Jihadi Terrorists first disclosed back in 2005 in a Pakistani magazine The Herald:

Kashmiri leader backs contention that Rasheed helped militants
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Every ISI chief after having taken command has made a big attack on India. 2005 Delhi bombings came after Ashphuck took charge in 2004, and 2008 attack was when Pasha took charge. By all accounts the new chief Zaheer-ul-Islam is another Jihadi and wants the ISI to go back to its roots in JK (he is re-organizing ISI's Kashmir cell it seems). Abu Chidiya announcement and successive statements by India (remember that it comes in the season of WKK-A Monkey Asha-Lets give Electricity to Pakistan statements) is probably to pre-empt any adventurism by the new chief?
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Anujan wrote: By all accounts the new chief Zaheer-ul-Islam is another Jihadi and wants the ISI to go back to its roots in JK (he is re-organizing ISI's Kashmir cell it seems).
And he seems to have entrusted that task to Maj Gen Isfandyar Pataudi, cousin of our Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi. So, what do the Pataudi clan discuss when they meet ?
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06 ... argo-ship/
US Officials Find Up To 60 Pakistani Stowaways on Cargo Ship
US officials seized cargo today from a ship with goods from India and Egypt. As many as 60 Pakistani stowaways were found on board.Yahoo reported:
U.S. authorities seized a cargo
ship with goods from India and Egypt on Wednesday after hearing what sounded like people stowed away inside a container on the vessel, the U.S. Coast Guard said.The container was buried beneath others and had not been opened hours after the ship was stopped, said Coast Guard spokesman Charles Rowe said. The ship’s manifest said the container was loaded onto the vessel on June 7 and was carrying machine parts.At least seven ambulances waited outside Port Newark-Elizabeth Marine Terminal, where dozens of containers were moved to the dock for inspection. Authorities knocked on the outside of the red, blue or gray containers, listening for noises, and opened and searched them.he vessel, Villa D’Aquarius, was stopped at 3 a.m. EDT (0700 GMT) at a standard checkpoint for incoming ships, the Ambrose Anchorage below the Verrazano Bridge in New York Harbor, Rowe said.“The boarding team went aboard for a routine inspection. They heard sounds that were consistent with people being inside a container,” Rowe said.
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jrjrao wrote:Assphuck says that he has had enough of getting ficked in his ass. Or so he wants to convey.

More likely, he is a typical darpok Paki jernail who, when kicked and ficked, wants to quickly duck responsibility.

Kayani declares war on 'Nato aggressors
ISLAMABAD - Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Thursday suspended command and chain system to counter any aggression on borders.

Reliable sources said General Kayani suspended the command and chain system in order to enable the senior officers on the posts to take appropriate action if Pakistani forces come under attack.

The Chief of the Army Staff issued these orders on Wednesday night. According to which, the Pakistani military officer in the area will be responsible for retaliation against any aggressors in that particular area and he will be provided all kind of assistance that he will ask for.

He also said that the Pakistan Air Force should have taken action when NATO helicopters violated the Pakistani airspace and attacked the Pakistani checkposts in Mohmand Agency last Saturday, the sources maintained.

This was the first time after occupation of Afghanistan by allied forces that a Pakistani army chief, fed up of continuous border aggression, has issued such orders.
The picture of Asphuck in that article seems to suggest a painful gubo. :mrgreen:
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saip wrote:JRJ/Shiv: That news item is from Dec 2011!
Oooooo......! thanks!

But that, if anything, raises now the same question, if only multifoldly and additionally multipliedly, of the darpokness and the false bravado.

Of this highly refined and martially bred Pakjabi from District Jhelum.

For if Assphuck had given the order for "guns are now loose" and "guns are now dripping" 7 months ago, why then do we now have this bunch of rag-tag, chappal-wearing and carnation-on-left-ear adorned Afghani freedom fighters coming over and beheading, in front of a video camera, 17 of Kayani's piglets? Why make sit quietly them M109 self-propelled guns that unkil gifted recently?

IOW, I look forward to what Arun predicts here.

Which is that Kayani and associated pigs have initiated this conflict, but we will finish it Inshallah. That they have bitten us first, but we have seen that, felt that, evaluated that, and found them wanting, and now they will be crushed under our Nike shoes, Inshallah. And what they have started, we will control and we will finish --- taking no prisoners, Inshallah. That is what Baba Iqbal said, Inshallah.
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^^^ Inshallah. May many more heads roll. Including those of successive porki Prime (Rib) Ministers!
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Now is the time for all fellow Beijing poodles to come to the aid of the proxy-tute comrade in arms..rapist goon puppet yellows are now blaming media, not TSP/TSPA for the confusion. As usual, TSPA is blameless, faultless..

Now it is for Digvijay Singh to announce that it was all a Sangh parivar conspiracy and Teesta Setelvad to manufacture proof of the same..
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saip wrote:JRJ/Shiv: That news item is from Dec 2011!
It is a good reminder though, to check on how the war is progressing.. :rotfl:
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A heart warming tale of brotherly love among the flag bearing "pure" warriors:

Taliban beheads 13 Pakistani soldiers

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/talib ... herstories
Taliban fighters have killed 14 Pakistani soldiers in a key militant sanctuary along the Afghan border, beheading all but one of them and hanging two of the heads from wooden poles in the center of town, officials say.
On Sunday, the Taliban ambushed a security checkpoint in Miran Shah, killing nine Pakistani soldiers, the army said. Militants had been firing on the checkpoint for the past few days before they ambushed it, the army said.

When authorities finally retrieved the bodies of the dead soldiers, they found they had been beheaded, said intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to talk to the media.
The army retaliated on Sunday with helicopter gunships that pounded suspected militant hideouts and also hit three houses and a mosque in the town, said intelligence officials. Three civilians were killed and 20 were wounded in the helicopter attacks, they said. It's unclear how many militants were killed.

The military also raided a house in Miran Shah on Sunday night, killing a militant commander and several of his colleagues, said intelligence officials. But the remaining militants escaped with five soldiers captured during the raid.

They beheaded four of them and hung two of their heads from poles in Miran Shah on Monday. The bodies of the others were dumped in Miran Shah bazaar, the officials said.
Lt. Kalia's soul rests a little more peacefully today!!
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With the paki CJ and TSPA out to get Zardari, the taliban - TSPA peace accord appearing to be broken, the straining relationship between the US and TSPA, it seems that time is ripe to co-opt Zardari (whatever be his character, he has his self-interest at stake) and help the cause of Sindhu Desh. I wonder if GOI is awake to the opportunities in this context.
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/400203/insi ... assengers/
Around 4.5 kilogrammes of heroin was seized from a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) aircraft in Karachi that was departing for London via Lahore and the airport staff has been identified as prime suspects.
“This has happened a hundred times,” says Customs Spokesperson Qamar Thalho, while referring to Wednesday’s incident on PIA flight PK-787. “About 20 years ago, it used to be gold that we used to find in the toilets of aircraft, up to 140, 000 grams of gold at a time, and now we see that it’s mostly heroin being smuggled in the toilet compartments.”
Thalho says that the heroin was placed within panelling in the toilets
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anirban_aim wrote:A heart warming tale of brotherly love among the flag bearing "pure" warriors:

Taliban beheads 13 Pakistani soldiers

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/talib ... herstories
Taliban fighters have killed 14 Pakistani soldiers in a key militant sanctuary along the Afghan border, beheading all but one of them and hanging two of the heads from wooden poles in the center of town, officials say.
On Sunday, the Taliban ambushed a security checkpoint in Miran Shah, killing nine Pakistani soldiers, the army said. Militants had been firing on the checkpoint for the past few days before they ambushed it, the army said.

When authorities finally retrieved the bodies of the dead soldiers, they found they had been beheaded, said intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to talk to the media.
The army retaliated on Sunday with helicopter gunships that pounded suspected militant hideouts and also hit three houses and a mosque in the town, said intelligence officials. Three civilians were killed and 20 were wounded in the helicopter attacks, they said. It's unclear how many militants were killed.

The military also raided a house in Miran Shah on Sunday night, killing a militant commander and several of his colleagues, said intelligence officials. But the remaining militants escaped with five soldiers captured during the raid.

They beheaded four of them and hung two of their heads from poles in Miran Shah on Monday. The bodies of the others were dumped in Miran Shah bazaar, the officials said.
Lt. Kalia's soul rests a little more peacefully today!!
So it is Kosher to hit a mosque. Why doesn't media play it up ?
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Anujan wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/400203/insi ... assengers/
Around 4.5 kilogrammes of heroin was seized from a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) aircraft in Karachi that was departing for London via Lahore and the airport staff has been identified as prime suspects.
“This has happened a hundred times,” says Customs Spokesperson Qamar Thalho, while referring to Wednesday’s incident on PIA flight PK-787. “About 20 years ago, it used to be gold that we used to find in the toilets of aircraft, up to 140, 000 grams of gold at a time, and now we see that it’s mostly heroin being smuggled in the toilet compartments.”
Thalho says that the heroin was placed within panelling in the toilets
kleptomaniacs, smugglers, heroin dealers and terrorists. :roll:
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MKB crawls out of where he was hiding to say that TSP knowingly sent Abu Jundal to Indian hands and US is behind this to spoil Indo-Pak "bonhomie".
Abu Jundal arrest: Who stands to gain?
Adrenaline has been flowing through the Indian veins for the past 48 hours since Zabiuddin Ansari aka Abu Jundal had his 'homecoming' after a prolonged absence abroad. He is a 'precious catch', no doubt.

Aside corroborative evidence, he can provide us fresh evidence about the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai [ Images ]. But there are also things he may not know, simply because he was not in the loop, as they say.
Saudi Arabia does use terror as an instrument of state policy, but it is strictly in other countries only. It is well-known that Riyadh played a big role in mobilising the anti-Shi'ite Salafist terror groups in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq despite their affiliation with the Al Qaeda with a view to prevent the Shi'ite empowerment. The Saudis are today openly helping terror groups in Syria with the hope to bring about a 'regime change' in that country. Equally, the Saudi role in organising Islamist radicals in the Libyan war is well-known.

But the golden rule in Riyadh is that the radical elements will be exterminated from Saudi soil as such, since they might threaten the stability of the regime. This is one major difference between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
That is to say, Pakistani security establishment would have known that Ansari was highly vulnerable on Saudi soil. Yet they apparently directed him to go and operate as a lone ranger out of Saudi soil, hoodwinking that country's intelligence. This remains an intriguing detail that needs some explanation. The point is India-Pakistan entanglements are never quite what meets the eye.

The heart of the matter is that Pakistan enjoys very close relationship with Saudi Arabia and one enduring template is security and military cooperation. (Pak army chief Ashfaq Kayani broke protocol to attend Nayef's funeral.) There is no doubt that if a day arrives with Iran going 'nuclear', Saudis will follow suit and reams of papers have been written by authoritative analysts that Riyadh might even source a custom made nuclear bomb from Pakistan.

Suffice to say, it is a profound relationship. That brings us to a second question: Didn't Pakistan weigh in that it was sure to provoke the Saudi security establishment if it transpired at any stage that Rawalpindi had introduced Ansari, who is a Lashkar e-Tayiba operative? Why did Pakistan risk such a misadventure that held the potential to raise dust in Saudi-Pakistani ties?

Suffice to say, Pakistani motivations in this case are rather complex. The first Pakistan reaction by Interior Minister Rehman Malik [ Images ] has been that Ansari is after all an Indian.

Even more intriguing is that Ansari has been apparently in the custody of the Saudi intelligence for months. Why were they holding him for so long? How did they nab him? Or, did they nab him or someone virtually handed him over to the Saudis? Why did the Saudis decide to deport him as the month of June 2012 was ending? In diplomacy, timing is of the highest significance.

Are we to believe that Ansari was a total duffer who opened a Facebook account in his real name which alerted spooks to his presence in the Saudi capital, etc, etc.?
The United States has scrambled to take credit for getting the Saudis to deport Ansari. The former US secretary of state Madeline Albright has been camping in New Delhi [ Images ] in recent days knocking at the doors of Indian politicians (including -- or especially -- the opposition politicians) canvassing support for Delhi's impending 'reform' allowing Wal Mart [ Images ] to enter India's [ Images ] $430 billion retail market.

Now, Albright abruptly changes tack and goes 'live' on the Indian television to flag Ansari's capture as one of the finest flowers of the US-Indian security cooperation.

Albright's message is not difficult to decipher: The US has only India's best interests in mind -- be it Ansari or Wal Mart.

The templates that surface in all this are the following: a) Pakistani motivations in sending Ansari to the viper's nest; b) Timing of the Saudi decision to deport Ansari; c) The US role (or lack of a role) in it in substantive terms.

The irresistible question in all this is once again, "Who stands to gain?"

To be sure, Pakistan loses heavily. Either it has been downright stupid or it gambled and lost or it willfully acted by getting rid of a most dangerous Indian from its soil who is in any case a 'burnt-out case'. Pakistan knew Ansari would probably spill the beans if he got into Indian hands, but then, Indians already knew much of what he might say anyway.
That apart, the US also would like to step into the India-Pakistan dialogue, which lately has been having a dynamics of its own sequestered from the chill in US-Pakistan ties. Indeed, highly irresponsible calls are being made in certain quarters in India questioning the raison d'etre of the dialogue with Pakistan. No doubt, the atmospherics of the India-Pakistan dialogue have overnight come under weather. Again, the lingering question would be, 'Who stands to gain?'
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Beijing puppet mass murderers and their yellows always see some Unkil conspiracy and see ghosts everywhere. If you ask yourself what Beijing wants, how it will gain and what its position would be then these sewer scums' statements and logic would suddenly appear easy to follow and understand.

Right now Beijing wants Iran to be another proxytute - cock a snook at Unkil and give a bloody nose (even if Iran were to lose an arm and leg) while it can stand in the sidelines and clap like eunuchs do when two big rowdies are fighting. So the instruction to yellows is clear - support Iran, oppose anything that opposes them, Saudis included.
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Elites , WKK and yellow puppets who want GoI to talk with Bakistan pls explain what should GoI talk with Pakistan about ?
If I was Cabinet secretary in GoI, what exactly should I discuss with the terrorist nation when they are untrustworthy, capricious, no center of power, unwilling to take responsibility for their action.
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From our Lal Salaam comrade's article..
To begin with, it is curious that Pakistan sent him out on a mission to Saudi Arabia knowing...
So it is nice to hear him admitting that TSP sends people out on such missions..Perhaps TSP had some accomodation with KSA which was overturned by bigger considerations?
The Saudis are today openly helping terror groups in Syria...
Assad gets unqualified support too..because he is backed by Iran and is taking on Unkil...
Why were they holding him for so long? How did they nab him? Or, did they nab him or someone virtually handed him over to the Saudis?
If TSPA/ISI wanted to earn India's goodwill and score some brownie points at South Block, it would have sent him packing to Wagah or encountered him. Or arrested him and held him, even if refuse to extradite. That would really have made a big difference. Even us jingo's at BRF would have paused for a few seconds. So why send him to Saudi with Paki passport and false identity, if as our comrade Lal Salaam is trying to suggest in a painfully convoluted way that TSPA/ISI is so nice and friendly?

The best result of our comrade's verbal vomit I can see is that he is doubting the loyalty of ISI to the green cause and hence sowing seeds of mistrust / hatred between ISI and the purer version of green. So if like that animal Khwaja (was it?) some ISI ghazi gets beheaded by a purer ghazi, they can blame our comrade... :twisted:
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VikasRaina wrote:Elites , WKK and yellow puppets who want GoI to talk with Bakistan pls explain what should GoI talk with Pakistan about ?
If I was Cabinet secretary in GoI, what exactly should I discuss with the terrorist nation when they are untrustworthy, capricious, no center of power, unwilling to take responsibility for their action.
And, there is simply nobody to talk to there. They are a fragmented lot among the elites, politicians, the military, the judiciary, the Islamists and the jihadists.
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Bhadrakumar is a strange bloke.

Has anyone seen an Indian governmental or US governmental source writing what he writes about KSA?
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/pak-m ... 120628.htm
Saudi Arabia does use terror as an instrument of state policy, but it is strictly in other countries only. It is well-known that Riyadh played a big role in mobilising the anti-Shi'ite Salafist terror groups in post-Saddam Hussein Iraq despite their affiliation with the Al Qaeda with a view to prevent the Shi'ite empowerment. The Saudis are today openly helping terror groups in Syria with the hope to bring about a 'regime change' in that country. Equally, the Saudi role in organising Islamist radicals in the Libyan war is well-known.

But the golden rule in Riyadh is that the radical elements will be exterminated from Saudi soil as such, since they might threaten the stability of the regime. This is one major difference between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
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SSridhar wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:Elites , WKK and yellow puppets who want GoI to talk with Bakistan pls explain what should GoI talk with Pakistan about ?
If I was Cabinet secretary in GoI, what exactly should I discuss with the terrorist nation when they are untrustworthy, capricious, no center of power, unwilling to take responsibility for their action.
And, there is simply nobody to talk to there. They are a fragmented lot among the elites, politicians, the military, the judiciary, the Islamists and the jihadists.
But are they all not interconnected by marriage or 3rd cousin twice removed or business interests.
Somebody should make a pictorial diagram like was done for Hindi fillum industry as how everyone is related to someone or the other.

Why this single line chorus to talk to PA or that Kiya-nahin is onboard with Siachin or PA wants good relations with India now.
Why not ignore Bakistan like one ignores the rogue dog but keeps a stone and stick to beat it whenever teh dog shows its fangs.
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Early Jumma ka din mubarak. IED attack kills four in Khyber Agency
A remote-controlled-bomb attack on a security forces’ convoy on Thurday killed four personnel and injured six others in Akakhel area of Khyber agency’s Bara Tehsil, DawnNews reported. An officer and three soldiers were among the dead.
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Mullah Radio re-emerges as a threat
Shortly after sneaking across the Afghan border this week, more than 100 militants loyal to Pakistani Taliban leader Fazlullah {a former ski-lift operator and son-in-law of TNSM Chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad} waited patiently on a mountain for Pakistani troops to approach.

Several days later, the fighters released a video of what they said were the heads of 17 ambushed soldiers, along with their identification cards.

Laid across a white sheet, they were a chilling reminder
of the major security threat the man once known as FM Mullah or Mullah Radio still poses to US ally Pakistan, three years after the army pushed him out of the Swat Valley, a former tourist spot he terrorised.

“He is a very big problem for Pakistan,” said a Western diplomat.

During his heyday, Fazlullah, who like many senior Taliban members is known as a mullah, or preacher, organised thousands of fighters who roamed picturesque Swat, imposing his radical version of Islam.

Opponents, and those deemed immoral, were publicly flogged, or even beheaded and hung in squares and at intersections.

Girls’ schools and government buildings were burned down.

Nowadays, Fazlullah’s men control a 20-km stretch of the rugged and largely unpatrolled border with Pakistan from areas in Afghanistan’s forbidding Nuristan province, described by nearby US troops as “the dark side of the moon”.

From there, Fazlullah, a burly man in his thirties with a heavy black beard, plots cross-border raids that don’t kill many soldiers but agitate Pakistan’s military, which thought it had defeated him during a Swat offensive in 2009. :mrgreen:

His activities in the border area, described by US President Barack Obama as the world’s most dangerous place,could complicate efforts to stabilise the region before most foreign combat troops leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

BIG AMBITIONS

Fazlullah is a distraction for Pakistan’s military, which is also fighting Hakimullah Mehsud, the leader of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan group blamed for many of the suicide bombings across the South Asian country.

Sirajuddin Ahmad, Fazlullah’s spokesman and cousin, said the group’s aim was to recapture Swat, and take control of Pakistan.
{Yeah, they were creeping in on Islamabad in c. 2008}

“The establishment of sharia (Islamic law) is our goal, and we will not rest until we achieve it. We will fight whoever stands in our way,” he told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location in Afghanistan.

Fazlullah has slowly rebuilt his militia by securing shelter and support from Afghan militants in an area where groups form loose alliances against the United States, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“He is extremely dangerous,” said a Pakistani security official. “Fazlullah has 150 men, rocket-propelled grenades and light machine guns. You just need a small amount of men to carry out effective operations. This is a big number.”

Fazlullah, once known for fiery radio sermons, was the first Taliban leader that took control of an area in Pakistan outside the unruly ethnic Pashtun tribal belt along the Afghan border.

There are no signs that he will be able to penetrate deep inside towns or cities. His men usually arrive in a big wave, attack and retreat back into Afghanistan.

But his operations have prompted Pakistan’s military – one of the world’s largest, :mrgreen: to repeatedly urge the Afghan government and Nato forces to go after the militant leader.

On Monday, Pakistan protested to Nato and the Afghan military, accusing them of failing to act against militant havens in Afghanistan after the cross-border attack in which the Pakistani soldiers were killed.

Nuristan police chief Ghulamullah Nooristani says there are no signs that anyone intends to eliminate Fazlullah, even though he was creating havoc for people there, charging illegal taxes, stealing supplies from trucks and sometimes killing drivers.

“We can’t attack them because they are armed with light and heavy weapons which are much better than ours,” he said. “If we get support from the central government or coalition forces we will be able to destroy their strongholds.”

Fazlullah’s fighters usually slip across the border into Pakistan at night and take positions on high ground.

“We have patrols and vehicles moving in the area to guard the border, so they wait and try to ambush them,” said a Pakistani intelligence official.

Intelligence officials say Fazlullah’s men operate in the Afghan provinces of Nuristan and Kunar, and enjoy the support of hundreds of militants there.

Support goes both ways when it comes to fighting the US-backed governments in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Some militants have long-standing bonds.

“Many of us know each other from before, as we studied in the same madrassas (religious seminaries),” said a commander of a militant group in Kunar.

“When we need to conduct an operation in Afghanistan, we request help and they give us fighters. When they need to conduct an operation, we provide them with assistance as well.” {As simple as that}

Few experts expect Fazlullah to make the kind of gains he seems determined to achieve. But he is making a big impact.
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Pigs do fly, WTF is this .


Pak high commission invites Kashmiri separatists for meet in New Delhi

Next celeberate Killing Indian soldiers in New Delhi????
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Longwar Journal has in its liveleak channel, the video released by TTP in the aftermath of beheading of PA soldiers.
Warning: extremely graphic and NSFW
video Link
.....The graphic video, which was obtained by The Long War Journal, was sent to journalists by Ihsanullah Ihsan, a spokesman for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan.

The videotape includes a statement by Hakeemullah Mehsud, the leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan. Hakeemullah promises that the Taliban will continue to fight the Pakistani military until the government enforces sharia, or Islamic law, and stops supporting the US in the region.

In the video, the Taliban show the heads of 17 Pakistani soldiers displayed on a white sheet; the Taliban claim that 18 soldiers were killed during the fighting. The Taliban fighters are standing around the gruesome display, holding weapons as the camera pans back and forth to show the soldiers' remains. The Taliban then show the military identification cards of the slain soldiers.

The 17 soldiers were killed after more than 100 Taliban fighters crossed the border from Kunar province in Afghanistan and attacked the Pakistani troops. Sirajuddin Ahmad, a spokesman for the Malakand Taliban, which operates under the command of Mullah Fazlullah, initially claimed credit for the attack and said 17 soldiers were killed.

"Our fight will continue until the establishment of sharia law in Pakistan .... We will fight whoever tries to stand in our way," Ahmad told Reuters the day after the battle.

Videotape the latest of a Taliban execution of Pakistani security forces

The Pakistani Taliban routinely videotape executions of their captives. The most recent high-profile execution, which was recorded in a videotape that was later distributed, took place in June 2011, when the Taliban captured 16 Pakistani policemen in Dir, lined them up, and executed them via firing squad.
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Hell hath no fury like a Jihadi scorned.
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SSji are you saying that was an inside job to add public pressure - oh look vee are suffering onlee to US public?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May

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SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote: By all accounts the new chief Zaheer-ul-Islam is another Jihadi and wants the ISI to go back to its roots in JK (he is re-organizing ISI's Kashmir cell it seems).
And he seems to have entrusted that task to Maj Gen Isfandyar Pataudi, cousin of our Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi. So, what do the Pataudi clan discuss when they meet ?

No wonder Saif plays Paki terrorists in many of his movies!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May

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ISLAMABAD:

The US made an offer to Pakistan to conduct a joint military offensive against the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in the Pak-Afghan border region, in a move indicating that the two estranged allies have sought to cooperate in specific areas despite worsening ties.

However, the offer is linked with the Pakistani military agreeing to eliminate alleged sanctuaries of the Haqqani network on its side of the border, diplomatic sources revealed.
The idea was discussed in talks between US Gen John Allen, who is leading Nato-led US forces in Afghanistan, and Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, in Rawalpindi on Wednesday.

An American official, privy to the development, told The Express Tribune that the US was willing to address Pakistan’s concerns on the cross border incursions blamed on the TTP.

The official, who requested anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to media on the sensitive subject, said that US and Pakistani forces could conduct a joint operation in the border areas against the banned group.

However, he clarified that a joint operation does not mean US boots on Pakistani soil. “If the two sides agree, they can coordinate their operation to achieve the desired results,” the official added.

When contacted, the military refused to say what was discussed in the one-on-one meeting between Gen Allen and Gen Kayani.

An unnamed military official was quoted as telling AFP that Gen Kayani demanded greater efforts from the Americans on stopping cross-border incursions. “It was a routine meeting to discuss border coordination,” a senior Pakistani military official told AFP.

“We also raised the issue of cross-border attacks on the Pakistani military from Afghanistan. We demanded that Isaf (International Security Assistance Force) take action against militant sanctuaries in Afghanistan and eliminate the militant groups involved in cross-border attacks inside Pakistan,” he added.

Pakistan said around 100 Afghan-based militants crossed the border into the northwestern district of Upper Dir on Sunday. Six soldiers were killed and 11 went missing. Pakistani officials said Tuesday that seven of them were beheaded.

On Wednesday, a senior security official admitted that all 17 had in fact been beheaded after the TTP released a video showing the slaughtered heads.

Pakistan military blames the loyalists of Maulana Fazlullah, a cleric who led a two-year Taliban insurgency in the Swat valley before fleeing into Afghanistan to escape an army offensive in 2009.

But both the Afghans and the Americans repeatedly blame Pakistan for not doing more to eliminate havens on its soil, which are used as launch pads for attacks across the border.

Last Friday, Gen Allen pointed fingers at the Haqqani network, allegedly based in North Waziristan Agency, for a 12-hour siege on a lakeside hotel in Kabul that killed 18 people.

A US official described Wednesday’s talks between the two military commanders as ‘constructive’ seeking to overcome the difficulties in the bilateral relationship and promote cooperation between Isaf and the Pakistani military.

(WITH ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM AFP)

Published In The Express Tribune, June 28th, 2012
Finally, the Yanquis are learning the art of negotiating. Hope they evolve to not standing by their commitments. :mrgreen:
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Aditya_V wrote:Pigs do fly, WTF is this .


Pak high commission invites Kashmiri separatists for meet in New Delhi

Next celeberate Killing Indian soldiers in New Delhi????
Why does the GOI allow this?

Who is Benefiting?

Are we a foolish democracy?
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^^^ Global administrator should not be confused with PM.
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Captain among eight killed in IED Mubarak attack in Khyber Agency

IED Be Upon Pakistan
KHYBER AGENCY: Eight soldiers including a captain were killed and three others were injured as security convoy was targeted by the militants with a remote control improvised explosive device (IED) in Bara Tehsil of Khyber Agency on Thursday afternoon, officials said.Government sources said that a convoy of the security forces was passing through Qamarabad area of Bara Tehsil in Khyber agency when it was hit by a remote controlled IED planted on the roadside.The vehicle was partially destroyed as a result of the blast.Two militants have also been killed as the security forces targeted the miscreants after the IED Blast near AlHaj Market.“At least eight troops including an officer were killed and three others wounded in a bomb explosion, targeting two vehicles of the paramilitary Frontier Corps (FC),” a spokesman for the force told AFP.The vehicles were on a routine patrol when attack happened, he added.Earlier, the spokesman had said that six troops were killed and four wounded
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Height of Pakistanis has fallen 4 inches over 50 years, say experts
Speaking on the occasion, Vice Chancellor, UAF Professor Dr Iqrar Ahmad Khan, said that cousin marriages were also one of the reasons for the short stature of Pakistanis. He urged the need for new diet packages to be introduced for balanced, affordable food.
Dr Iqrar also expressed concerns over existing eating habits, saying 50 years ago, large amounts of corn flour was traditionally consumed, but over time, Pakistanis had lost the mechanism to cook roti with corn flour, which was a cheaper, healthier staple food item.
Dr Iqrar revealed that a BSc (Hons) Human Nutrition and Dietetics and Food Engineering degree was being initiated for the first time in the country. He hoped that by introducing new disciplines, a trained human resource would be available for the food industry.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/375257/heig ... y-experts/
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