Thank you. I first noticed that in a photo in 1962, in the first Observers Book of Aircraft I got. It has taken me 50 years to find out wtf that is.nachiket wrote:Well that extension under the Phantom's nose housed the primitive IRST system (I think it was called the AAA-4 IR sensor). I think only the navy's F4J version didn't have it. They probably removed it and covered the housing with the metal tip.
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^^I wouldn't have noticed it either except I banged my head on it.
That still doesn't explain why it was explicitly stated that the tip be left unpainted? - there must be something else inside it. RWR possibly?
That still doesn't explain why it was explicitly stated that the tip be left unpainted? - there must be something else inside it. RWR possibly?
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HI - Can gurus help me with that odd looking stub on RuAfs Mig-29. I just happen to see this on Ria Novosti. Is it some kind of Maws or Flir. Do our Mig29 UPgs or K ones have them. Many thanks - Please check at 0.06 sec on this video. http://en.rian.ru/video/20120313/172139338.html
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on the port side wingroot ?
that's the retractable IFR.
that's the retractable IFR.
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Thanks Rahul > Do we have them on our Bahadurs ?? Cheers
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The Mig-29 is called the "Baaz" in IAF service. The Mig-27 is called Bahadur. And yes, the upgraded IAF Mig-29s will have the refueling probes.Parowski wrote:Thanks Rahul > Do we have them on our Bahadurs ?? Cheers
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Two inches in front of the radar housing would be a horribly inconvenient place to put an RWR, no?Raja Bose wrote: That still doesn't explain why it was explicitly stated that the tip be left unpainted? - there must be something else inside it. RWR possibly?
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Came out about the same time as the DH Vampire.
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Interesting. Owned by Essar Shipping and in about a year, the jetsetter has been photographed in Darwin, Milan, Zurich, Costa Smeralda besides Mumbai. May have been to many other places.vishvak wrote:Just read about a site - http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?regsearch=VT-SMI
Notice the destinations - India, Italy, Australia, Switzerland, UK, France, etc.
Perhaps searching by unique plane ID.
Little more digging gives ownership and registration history:
http://jetphotos.net/census/aircraft2.p ... d=GULF-525
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Give up. What is it?Victor wrote:http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb28 ... -small.jpg
Came out about the same time as the DH Vampire.
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^^ thats the Sud-Ouest SO 8000 Narval.
Had to google for that
Had to google for that
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Very interesting thanks. I learned something new todayMerril wrote:^^ thats the Sud-Ouest SO 8000 Narval.
Had to google for that
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Merril wrote:^^ thats the Sud-Ouest SO 8000 Narval.
Had to google for that
It was a puzzling design for a shipboard fighter considering that an arrester hook looked impossible to work on it.
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I would hate to be in that thing if the catapult failed!Victor wrote:Merril wrote:^^ thats the Sud-Ouest SO 8000 Narval.
Had to google for that
It was a puzzling design for a shipboard fighter considering that an arrester hook looked impossible to work on it.
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Kannan sahab which aircraft would you like to be in if the catapult failed?
Victor sahab, not all aircrafts required tails hooks ... the Hercules landed on AC without any hooks. you would need planes with high lift creating surfaces, a strong engine and strong brakes.
Victor sahab, not all aircrafts required tails hooks ... the Hercules landed on AC without any hooks. you would need planes with high lift creating surfaces, a strong engine and strong brakes.
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Fair point.indranilroy wrote:Kannan sahab which aircraft would you like to be in if the catapult failed?
Victor sahab, not all aircrafts required tails hooks ... the Hercules landed on AC without any hooks. you would need planes with high lift creating surfaces, a strong engine and strong brakes.
That said, pretty much anything else! A jet would buy you a decent amount of time, but the p-factor and torque for a pusher prop at high power and high angle of attack would pretty much make an ejection seat worthless once you left the deck.
Then you throw in the disadvantages of having a t-tail plane.. I'd like to know what the designer was thinking
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HE was just trying to have the higher power at lower speeds of a turboprop with the clean air over the wings of a pusher configuration. Once you have a pusher configuration, you don't want the rudder in the propwash, so close to the propellers. Hence the dual rudder configuration.
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different angle
The Narval was an experimental twin boom pusher attack aircraft initially powered by a 2100 hp
SNECMA Arsenal 12H-00 engine (basically the German Junkers Jumo 213). It was first publicly
shown at the December, 1949 Paris Air Show (a Salon, rather than a flying, event). It was intend-ed to use
surplus SNECMA engines from the Nord 1400 flying boat program. A future version(the SNCASO 8010) was planned,
using a pure jet engine. In the event, the design was shelved. There were evidently some flight characteristic
problems with it. The aircraft above was the firstprototype.
The second prototype flew in April 1949 and was civil registered F-WFKV.
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That is why I put a smiley on the photo. It is the Embraer CBA 123. I had never heard of this until someone commented on my Saras video on Youtube.nakul wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAL_Saras
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Wow, that got me too Shiv saar! Very hard to distinguish though.
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The picture is still that of Saras I think...shiv wrote:That is why I put a smiley on the photo. It is the Embraer CBA 123. I had never heard of this until someone commented on my Saras video on Youtube.nakul wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAL_Saras
below is CBA-123
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Check the name on the port side of the nose and also the marking (VT-XRM). This was the second prototype that tragically crashed. How could joo miss this daktir sahib ?shiv wrote:
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LOL Sure it's not PT-ZVB or ZVE?Bob V wrote:
Check the name on the port side of the nose and also the marking (VT-XRM). This was the second prototype that tragically crashed. How could joo miss this daktir sahib ?
Check the name of the image. I got it off a site purporting to show the cba 123. But that does not mean that you are wrong. the image may be mislabelled
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http://images.picturesdepot.com/photo/e/embraer_fma_cba_123_vector_taking_off-20440.jpg
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An earlier post on the Vector and its developent:
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... r#p1303430
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... r#p1303430
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Two more visual indicators:
1) main landing gear doors ( absent on the Saras)
2) engine cowlings :-
The P&W engines(on Saras) have a unique cowling shape near the intake.
Notice the same on the Garrets on the E123.
PS: that airfield bears close resemblance to the old one at Bangalore,Kerala with its shining flags.
1) main landing gear doors ( absent on the Saras)
2) engine cowlings :-
The P&W engines(on Saras) have a unique cowling shape near the intake.
Notice the same on the Garrets on the E123.
PS: that airfield bears close resemblance to the old one at Bangalore,Kerala with its shining flags.
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I Googled for CBA 123 and found this Saras photo labelled as CBA 123. It looked so much like Saras that I posted it and failed to realize that it was the Saras. Otherwise the nose of the CBA 123 is quite different. And the intake cowling as you say.Bob V wrote:Two more visual indicators:
1) main landing gear doors ( absent on the Saras)
2) engine cowlings :-
The P&W engines(on Saras) have a unique cowling shape near the intake.
Notice the same on the Garrets on the E123.
PS: that airfield bears close resemblance to the old one at Bangalore,Kerala with its shining flags.
But I have never heard of CBA 123
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Interesting comparison
Saras
CBA123
Edited to replace Sara with Saras!
Saras
CBA123
Edited to replace Sara with Saras!
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Very nice photo of saras
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PratikDas wrote:Interesting comparison
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Gurneesh wrote:Very nice photo of saras
Don't know about you guys, but I prefer the 'engines' on the Saras - they can prop my turbo anytime
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Sara is better looking that Saras and CBA123 put together
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^^^ Sara's twin push engines are aerodynamic and well rounded, definitely "outstanding" I say.
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Cross-posting from LCA thread
What I do see is that the Saras line drawing looks almost exactly like VT-XSD:
VT-XSD
Source: aero-news.net
Saras line drawing (ok, the file name reads SARA.jpg)
Source: doc8643.com
Please enlighten!
Edited to replace Sara with Saras!
Forgive me, Hakim ji, but I see not what you do. I hope the title CBA123 for the second image in my post above was noticed.shiv wrote:Pratik Das please recheck your Saras photo in the aircraft recognition thread.
What I do see is that the Saras line drawing looks almost exactly like VT-XSD:
VT-XSD
Source: aero-news.net
Saras line drawing (ok, the file name reads SARA.jpg)
Source: doc8643.com
Please enlighten!
Edited to replace Sara with Saras!
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The Saras image shows a topless young woman with a request that you should link the site directly rather than posting an online image. Presumably the bare breasted young lady is called "Sara". Perhaps the image is cached on your computer that prevents you from seeing what the rest of us are seeing.PratikDas wrote:
Please enlighten!
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Thank you. The jokes now make a lot of sense.
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DNA has identified the fighter in the photograph (from Iron Fist 2013) as Mig 27 instead of Mig 21.
http://www.dnaindia.com/mobile/report.php?n=1803194
There is another closer view(photograph) of the same fighter taken by Kedar Karmarkar here
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/dsc0921r.jpg/
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http://www.dnaindia.com/mobile/report.php?n=1803194
There is another closer view(photograph) of the same fighter taken by Kedar Karmarkar here
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/dsc0921r.jpg/
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