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shyamdji,
can you point me a report where it is claimed that indian officials revealed the sources?
can you point me a report where it is claimed that indian officials revealed the sources?
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There was a ToI article claiming this guy called Kagazi was a Saudi informant and helped arrest jundal. Then jundal himself was saying it was his sponsor that got him into trouble. And they had operations to nab 4 other individuals, what do you think will happen as soon as they find out Saudi handed him over? They and others would probably try and escape to pak.
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shyamdji,what do you think ...
No need to have any takleef with me.I value your contribution.
With your deep eyes,ears etc do you think the information about kagazi has any truth ? If he was indeed working for the govt,it is a serious breach by maharashtra police and media.
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No takleef Saar, just saying.
Basically everyone wants a piece of the credit and are ready to reveal to grab the credit. From the first operation to nab Nawaz in muscat, GoI has failed to maintain secrecy. They all want a promotion.
As for Kagazi, I don't know but never the less one shouldn't be naming informants. He is also on the wanted list and will be deported as well
Basically everyone wants a piece of the credit and are ready to reveal to grab the credit. From the first operation to nab Nawaz in muscat, GoI has failed to maintain secrecy. They all want a promotion.
As for Kagazi, I don't know but never the less one shouldn't be naming informants. He is also on the wanted list and will be deported as well
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During the course of a free and fair trial, people can be found innocent. Are you saying that the UAE authorities fail to grasp this basic fact? That Bhatkal was acquitted due to insufficient evidence does not change the fact that a he was charged with a crime and a trial needed to be held to prove his guilt/innocence as the case may be. Did the UAE authorities expect us to summarily execute him without a trial when they extradited him? That may be how things work in the Arab world, not in India.shyamd wrote: UAE slowed cooperation when they deported one of the Bhatkals on charges of helping IM organise the Pune blast, only to find the Indian courts say he was not guilty. What do you expect them to do?
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Pak-sponsored terror cannot be easily forgiven - G. Parthasarathy
Adding to this affront was the timidity with which the Indian delegation responded to provocative statements by Pakistani Foreign Minister, Hina Rabbani Khar, who disdainfully rejected Indian references to the depth of public sentiment in India about the events of 26/11.
She brazenly demanded that India should forget the past and move on. Shocking were the contents of the joint statement in which the two Foreign Ministers “expressed satisfaction” on meetings on issues of “counter terrorism”, “including progress on (the) Mumbai trial”. How can one express “satisfaction” at the “trial” of those accused in Pakistan, or the refusal to bring Hafeez Saeed to book? Why are we virtually equating the Samjhauta Express bombing with the carnage of 26/11? Have we learnt no lessons from the diplomatic fiasco in Sharm-el-Sheikh?
The new visa agreement to liberalise travel is a welcome development to promote understanding and goodwill. More security and Kashmir-related confidence-building measures (CBMs) and expanded trade and investment ties will be welcome. But, it would be a folly to give an impression that the dialogue process with Pakistan is “irreversible’ and that, with time, we will forget and forgive the carnage of 26/11.
Undermining the seriousness of our concerns on Pakistani-sponsored terrorism would inevitably have dangerous consequences.
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5 Prosecution Witnesses Testify on Training for 26/11 Terrorists - PTI
See here for a chronology of court drama in PakistanFive prosecution witnesses on Saturday testified before a Pakistani anti-terrorism judge about the training of the terrorists who carried out the November 2008 assault on Mumbai that killed 166 people, official sources said.
The witnesses, including intelligence operatives and officials of the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA), appeared before Judge Chaudhry Habib-ur-Rehman of anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi, and recorded their statements at the proceedings held behind closed doors at the Adiala Jail, where security has been increased after intelligence agencies reported that the Taliban could attack it to free militants lodged there.
Sources familiar with the proceedings said the witnesses gave details of the training camps where the attackers had prepared for the assault.
FIA Special Prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar Ali told PTI that he could not discuss the proceedings as they involved matters of “national interest.” {Did the prosecution witnesses give details about the Army & Naval trainers who trained these terrorists ?}
However, the sources said most of the testimonies focused on the training camps that were attended by the attackers.
After recording the statements, the judge adjourned the case till October 13.
Khwaja Haris Ahmed, counsel for LeT commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, said defence lawyers would cross-examine the five witnesses at the next hearing.
Lakhvi and six other suspects have been charged with planning, financing and facilitating the attacks. Their trial has virtually been stalled for over a year for various technical reasons.
Two LeT camps uncovered in Sindh
At a public hearing organised by the Standing Committee on Defence and Defence Production of the Senate on Friday, the former FIA chief, Tariq Pervez Khosa, said sleuths had uncovered two Lashkar-e-Taiba training camps in Sindh province, which were used by militants involved in the Mumbai attacks.
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Jyoti Malhotra reveals the meaning of above news item! Its a phappi-jhappi move to make it palatable for MMS to visit Pakisatan!
PM Must graps chance to reshape India's neighborhood
Looks like a PMO inspired op-ed.
PM Must graps chance to reshape India's neighborhood
Looks like a PMO inspired op-ed.
PM must grasp the chance to reshape India's neighbourhood
Jyoti Malhotra / New Delhi Oct 01, 2012, 00:25 IST
The death of Brajesh Mishra, India’s first national security adviser under former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, brings home the first rule of politics like never before: If you don’t shape your own chances, you might not get a second one.
{How is this example relevant is not known in this article!}
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who sometimes used Mishra’s good offices during his first tenure (2004-2009), especially to make overtures towards Beijing, must be rueing the day he let the opportunity to visit Pakistan slip in March 2007.
For those who came in late to the story, the back-channel between Satinder Lambah and Tariq Aziz, key aide to then Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, had resulted in a four-point “settlement” of the Kashmir issue, which basically allowed Kashmiris on both sides of the Line of Control to take joint management of their resources. The idea was that, in time, as they got to know each other better, the Kashmiris could decide how they wanted to deal with their political future.
It was an incredible idea and it confirmed the distance Pakistan had travelled from its insistence that the UN Resolution of 1949 be the only instrument that could decide Kashmir’s future. As the most powerful man in Pakistan, Musharraf didn’t need anybody else’s permission to deliver. Democracy? What democracy?
For the Indian side, this was the best option ever. There would be no giving up of territory and no loss of political control. If Kashmiris wanted to decide how to run their forests and their streams and their tourist reserves, and if this was the price to pay for the end to the decades-old rebellion inside Jammu & Kashmir, well then, how much better could it get?
{Thinking like a genooine Dilli Billi. No wonder it wont make any difference. All it would do is for the Paki side Kashmiris to grab the refugee Pandit properties in J&K.}
Except, Singh kept waiting for that elusive perfect opportunity to go to Pakistan. In the bargain, he missed a shot at creating history. Musharraf was soon bogged down in domestic turmoil which ended with him making a deal with the Americans to allow Benazir Bhutto back into the country in late 2007. She was killed only a few weeks later. When Zardari and his Pakistan People’s Party returned to power in early 2008, they were certainly not going to take up where their sworn enemy, Musharraf, had left off.
Singh lost five precious years in the bargain, but it seems he’s readying to make a final shot. Zardari & Co has to announce elections by December for them to be held around February-March 2013. When External Affairs Minister S M Krishna was in Islamabad in early September, he is believed to have communicated to them the need for action on the Mumbai attacks.
Well it seems now that that is certainly happening. On Saturday in Rawalpindi, home to the headquarters of the powerful Pakistan army, five prosecution witnesses testified before Justice Chaudhry Habib-ur Rehman’s anti-terrorism court.
According to PTI, the witnesses gave the court details of the training camps where the attackers had prepared for the assault on Mumbai. The witnesses included intelligence operatives and officials of the Federal Investigative Agency (FIA). The case has been adjourned till October 13.
Only a day before, during a public hearing organised by the Senate (upper house) standing committee on defence and defence production, former FIA chief Tariq Pervez Khosa said FIA officials had uncovered two Lashkar-e-Toiba training camps in Sindh province — in Thatta and in Karachi, the provincial capital — that were used by the militants for training for the Mumbai attacks.
So what’s going on? Is the Pakistani political class at last taking stock and picking up the nerve to put its hand inside the snakepit? All these decades the Pakistan army was the master puppeteer, pulling the strings of various groups, creating bands of terrorists only to unleash them against India (the “proxy war” inside Kashmir) as well as against the government in Afghanistan, and playing off these groups against each other.
But as clashes between the terrorists and the Pakistan army continue and Zardari’s government continues to push back and assert political control, Pakistan army chief General Ashfaq Kayani seems to be postponing the confrontation. Interestingly, things on the trade and economic front began to only move when the Pakistan army dropped its reservations to more open trade with India.
Can Singh still make it to Pakistan before December? If Zardari can pull off some real action on progress in Mumbai, anything is possible. After all, a Manmohan Singh visit will only boost Zardari’s own chances of staying alive in the next polls.
Until then, though, it might be a good thing for the prime minister not to count his chickens. Focussing elsewhere, for example with Bangladesh, might be a good idea. The winter session of Parliament must be prepared for a signature on the Land Boundary Agreement as well as on the Teesta waters.
If the prime minister waits and waits yet again for the perfect time and opportunity to show itself, his thunder might just be stolen by an impending visit by President Pranab Mukherjee to Dhaka. That would leave the PM holding two birds — and no stone to kill even one of them.
{Look at the kind of thinking that is articluated here. The PM of India is in competetion with the President of India and both are from same party!!!}
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It surely is a plant by the PMO and we can easily see the connection as well.ramana wrote:Jyoti Malhotra reveals the meaning of above news item! Its a phappi-jhappi move to make it palatable for MMS to visit Pakisatan!
PM Must graps chance to reshape India's neighborhood
Looks like a PMO inspired op-ed.
It is appalling that the mere testimony of five intel officers at Adiala could be reason enough for the visit of our PM to Islamabad. And, admission of two 26/11 training camps by a federal minister is argued as evidence of a turnaround in Pakistani policy. What a pathetic analyst is she.
We are pleased with just a hint of progress to delude ourselves that the tide had turned completely. Pakistan knows our weakness and throws crumbs at us to demand major policy changes from us. And, there are people like Ms. Jyoti Malhotra and newspapers to carry op-eds to mislead Indians and generate favourable opinion for the GoI policy of burying ourselves alive in a grave that we dug up ourselves.
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Fees of Kasab's lawyers to go to 26/11 slain policemen's families
Abu Jundal remanded in judicial custody till 17 Oct
Oct 3, 2012
Posted on Oct 03, 2012 at 08:10pm IST
New Delhi: The "high professional ethics" of counsel Raju Ramachandran and Gaurav Agrawal, who sought to donate to the legal service authority their fees worth around Rs 15 lakh, earned for helping the court as amicus curae in deciding the appeal of the 26/11 Mumbai terrorist Ajmal Kasab, on Wednesday won the wholesome praise of the Supreme Court.
Appreciating their gesture, a bench of justices Aftab Alam and CK Prasad asked the Maharashtra government to distribute the fee for the two counsel among family members of the 18 state policemen and other security personnel, who were killed in the 26/11 anti-terror operations.
"We appreciate the high standards of professional ethics of Shri Raju Ramachandran and Shri Gaurav Agrawal," observed the bench, commending the two advocates' gesture.
It directed that the amount should "be proportionately distributed among the kith and kind of the 18 police personnel and other security personnel killed in the Mumbai carnage."
While upholding the death penalty of the sole surviving Mumbai carnage terrorist Kasab, the court had fixed as token remuneration Rs 11 lakh for senior counsel Ramachandran and Rs 3.5 lakh for advocate Agrawal for their assistance to it as amicus curiae in the matter.
The two advocates, in a joint plea to the bench, sought its permission to return the money, while seeking to donate the same to the apex court's legal service authority.
While holding that the conspiracy for the attack was hatched in Pakistan, the apex court had earlier held Kasab guilty of waging war against the country in the Mumbai terror attack case in which 166 people were killed and said it was
left with no option but to uphold the death sentence.
The bench had earlier dismissed 25-year-old Kasab's plea against his conviction and death sentence confirmed by the Bombay High Court, saying he was given free and fair trial in the case.
"Kasab's confessional statement was very much voluntary except a very small portion," the bench had held. It had also dismissed Kasab's contention that the trial was not fair because the government did not provide him advocate during the time when he was arrested and put on trial.
Kasab along with nine other Pakistani terrorists had landed in south Mumbai on November 26, 2008 night after travelling from Karachi by sea and had gone on a shooting spree at various city landmarks.
While Kasab was the lone terrorist captured alive, the other terrorists in his group were killed by security forces during the counter-terror operations.
Kasab, who is lodged in Arthur Road Prison in Mumbai, was sentenced to death by a special anti-terror court on May 6, 2010.
Kasab's death penalty was upheld on charges of criminal conspiracy, waging war against the nation and various other provisions of the Indian Penal Code and the anti-terror law -- Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act.
Abu Jundal remanded in judicial custody till 17 Oct
Oct 3, 2012
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Ansari says ‘turned on’ by power, IEDs a ‘passion’ on alleged Orkut account
and our aim is to feed biriyani to such creeps onlee.Intelligence”, “power”, “thrills” are what suspected 26/11 Mumbai attack handler Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal listed as his “turn ons”. His “passions”, he said on an Orkut account allegedly traced to him, were “explosives and electronic IEDs”.
Apart from this Orkut profile under the name ‘Aazam Khan’, investigating agencies are looking at a Facebook and YouTube account, a blog on wordpress as well as 10 e-mail accounts for a window into Ansari’s aggressive terror recruitment and the Lashkar-e-Toiba’s local activities as well as to determine his location at various stages.
In the Orkut profile allegedly created by Ansari, he says: “I am Muslim, but not Indian or Hindi Muslim, brother and sisters... no color... no community... no country... no boundary... no lies, should ever hold us from supporting each other... from backing up each other... Allah is our lord, Mohammad is our commander, Quran is our constitution, jihad is our path, shahadat is our desire, khilafat is our aim.”
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Home Ministry forwards Kasab's mercy petition to the President!
Too disgusted to post the link.
So under the former Policeman the MHA forwards mercy petition for cop killer Kasab.
Too disgusted to post the link.
So under the former Policeman the MHA forwards mercy petition for cop killer Kasab.
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Show No Mercy to Ajmal Kasab: Home Ministry to President
Moving with unprecedented speed on the mercy petition of 26/11 terrorist Mohammad Ajmal Kasab, the Centre has sent a recommendation to President Pranab Mukherjee that the mercy petition be rejected since Kasab is guilty of a heinous and dastardly terror attack on Mumbai.
The Centre and Delhi government had taken five years to process the mercy plea of Parliament attack accused Mohammad Afzal, whose mercy plea is still pending with the President, six years after Afzal had filed it. However, the home ministry took just two weeks to process the case of Kasab after it received a communique from the Maharashtra government, earlier this month, containing an advice from the Maharashtra governor that Kasab's mercy petition be rejected.
Last week, MHA forwarded this file to the President, seconding the recommendation of the state government that Kasab deserves the noose. Effectively, Kasab's mercy plea has reached the final stage at the President's table within a month of him filing his plea on September 18, after SC upheld his death sentence on August 29.
The Delhi government took four years to finalise its view on Afzal's mercy plea before sending its recommendation to the home ministry on June 3, 2010, after being served 15 reminders on the file. Then, the home ministry sat on Afzal's file for another 13 months and finally submitted its advice to the President to reject Afzal's plea on July 27, 2011. The President's Secretariat has been sitting on the Afzal file since.
The speed shown in Kasab's case was evident in only one other case - of the last terrorists sent to the gallows, Satwant Singh and Keher Singh, assassins of prime minister Indira Gandhi, whose mercy pleas were rejected within 70 days. The two were hanged a little over 4 years after the assassination, in January 1989.
BJP said the speed shown by the government in Kasab's case exposed the government claims of following a queue when it came to cases like that of Afzal. "Kasab's case shows that if the government wants to process a mercy plea quickly, it can very well do it. This also exposes the Centre's defence of following a queue to keep Afzal's case pending for years now. The logic of following a queue should not apply to terrorists...," BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar told ET.
The government prosecutor in the 26/11 case, Ujjwal Nikam, has appealed to the President to decide on Kasab's mercy plea before November 26, the fourth anniversary of the attacks. "That would be a homage to the victims. Considering the dastardly terror act of Kasab, the President can immediately decide on the mercy plea on an urgent basis as there is no queue system at the President Secretariat though there is a debate that there are other long pending mercy petitions. The point that state government and Centre has spoken in one voice to recommend rejection of Kasab's plea is a positive indication," Nikam told ET over phone from Mumbai.
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Samajwadi Party disrupts RGV shoot
The city moves on but it seldom forgets. One such incident is filmmaker Ram Gopal Varma’s (RGV) entry into Taj Mahal Palace Hotel, minutes after the area was cleared after the 26/11 terror attacks in 2008.
Varma had entered the site, alongside late Vilasrao Deshmukh, then chief minister of Maharashtra, and actor Riteish Deshmukh. Later, his announcement to make a film on the incident had drawn the ire of citizens.
Pictures taken from a cell phone show the protesting Samajwadi Party members at 12.30 am on Saturday
In June, Central Railway denied him permission to shoot at CST station (‘Sorry Ramu you can’t shoot 26/11 film at CST’, June 7, 2012).
Varma doesn’t seem to be in the mood to relent. At 12.30 am on Saturday, around 100 men from the Samajwadi Party, led by Farhan Azmi, SP leader and son of SP’s Maharashtra President Abu Azmi, disrupted RGV’s shooting outside a restaurant in Kala Ghoda alleging RGV was cashing in on the emotions of the public.
“We won’t let him shoot in Mumbai. Varma visited the Taj hotel immediately after the attack along with then CM Vilasrao Deshmukh. He had said he won’t make any movie on the attack, but now he’s going back on his words,” said Azmi, adding that his men stalled the shooting as soon as they realised Varma was shooting a film based on the 26/11 attacks at the exact location where the incident occurred.
No se ntiments
“He can shoot the film in a studio. Varma is hurting the sentiments of the 26/11 victims and their family members,” Azmi claimed, adding that the party was upset that Varma broke his promise. “We want Kasab hanged, not depicted as a hero in a movie. Let Varma promise that he will give away all the earnings from this movie to the victims of the terror attacks.
But this is a commercial venture for him sans sentiments,” said Azmi.
An eyewitness, on condition of anonymity, said, “There was a lot of commotion at this usually quite place. Around 100 men entered the shooting area and created a ruckus forcing the entire unit to pack up. They were waving flags of the Samajwadi party and shouting slogans.”
A police officer from Colaba police station said, on condition of anonymity, confirmed the incident. “The protest was brought under control and no case has been registered.”
Calls made to Varma went unanswered.
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/nov/04 ... -shoot.htm
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DNA farts
Indo-Pak cricket series: Bal Thackeray refuses to 'forget the past'
Indo-Pak cricket series: Bal Thackeray refuses to 'forget the past'
ALLEGED!!! who pays these b@st@rds?The Shiv Sena ad the MNS have opposed any sort of cultural or sports links with Pakistan and its players due to its alleged involvement in terror attacks in the country.
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The kangress has made a mole hill out of a mountain
Azad Maidan riot caused by SMS, not speech: Cops
Azad Maidan riot caused by SMS, not speech: Cops
The Mumbai Crime Branch (CB) filed a chargesheet in the Azad Maidan case yesterday and the police said that they would not be arresting any of the organisers, as they found no link between the speeches given by them and the violence on August 11.
The 3,384-page chargesheet named two persons, who circulated SMSes of the rally, as the main conspirators. The CB filed the chargesheet containing statements of 851 witnesses in the court of additional chief metropolitan magistrate PS Rathod.
Yusuf Ahmed Hussain Khan (25) and Sayed Salim Anwar Pasha alias Saleem Lightwala (40) have been named as the main conspirators for the violence that erupted during the rally. Also, Khan was in touch with people from Burma before and after the incident.
The CB arrested 63 people in connection with the incident so far, and while five were released since their role could not be proved in the violence, 45 others got bail and 13 are in judicial custody. So far the CB has not been able to establish a foreign hand or underworld link in the violence.
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India plans to ask for pre-recorded speeches or conversations as voice samples of 26/11 terrorists to overcome legal hurdles - ToI
As the fourth anniversary of 26/11 approaches, India is mulling a fresh move to obtain voice samples of the Mumbai attack accused in Pakistan's custody. Agencies here are discussing the option of seeking pre-recorded speeches or conversations of accused such as Lashker-e-Taiba (LeT) commander Zaki ur Rehman Lakhvi, rather than insisting on collection of their voice samples. This is essentially to work around a lower court order that had earlier rejected the request of voice samples citing a Pakistani law that makes consent of an accused mandatory for collection of his voice sample.
Though there is no clarity on when the Indian government will formally approach Islamabad for pre-recorded voice samples, it is hopeful of a positive response this time around. New Delhi's fresh bid for voice samples of the seven accused in Pakistan's custody is buoyed by two recent moves in that country. First, the Pakistani investigative agency has approached the 26/11 court in Rawalpindi seeking day-to-day trial. Second, Islamabad has proposed amendments to its evidence laws to do away with mandatory consent of the accused for collection of their voice samples.
Sources in the government told TOI that the Indian investigative agencies came up with the indirect way of establishing the voices on 26/11 tapes as lack of consent from the accused was cited repeatedly to keep the Indian plea for the voice samples on hold. In case, Pakistan agrees to part with pre-recorded samples of the accused voices, they can be matched with that on 26/11 tapes to establish their identities and guilt. These pre-recorded samples may be certified and authenticated by Pakistani agencies with the help of "witnesses".
Confirming the renewed efforts at 26/11 cooperation, Union home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde on Saturday said the law officers of India and Pakistan would try to resolve legal issues to bring the 26/11 accused to justice. "If there is any difficulty, you consult your legal department and we will also consult our legal department," Shinde is said to have told Pakistani interior minister Rehman Malik on the sidelines of the recent Interpol meet in Rome earlier this week.
India has been reiterating its request to Pakistan for voice samples of the 26/11 ring-leaders caught on tape instructing the Mumbai attackers through the 26/11 strikes. These include Lakhvi, Abu Qahafa, Zarar Shah, Sajid Mir and Abu al Qama, besides Abu Jundal, who was deported to India a few months ago.
Pakistan's Federal Investigative Agency (FIA) had recently appealed against a lower court order, seeking directions from the high court for collection of voice samples from the seven accused in Pakistani jails. FIA insisted that the voice samples were a "piece of crucial evidence" that would help establish the guilt of the accused. {This is a time-wasting tactic by GoP}
There is also some forward movement from Pakistan to address the alleged lacunae in its evidence laws. It has proposed amendments to do away with mandatory consent of a terror accused for collecting his forensic samples.
According to home secretary R K Singh, the FIA has also made an application to the Pakistani court in Rawalpindi hearing the 26/11 case to hold day-to-day trial. {Once again, TSP is dangling some carrots to get more concessions}
The way forward on 26/11 coincides with renewal of cricketing ties with Pakistan and an impending visit by Malik for operationalising the new visa regime.
{Indian concessions are 'way forward' on 26/11 ? Shocking}
Shinde on Saturday dismissed suggestions that the MHA has softened its stance of Pakistan taking action against 26/11 accused by offering security to the Pakistani cricket team. "They are our guests," he said. The home secretary added that MHA's job was only to extend security to the players, while the larger decision of renewing of ties was taken by the MEA and the sports ministry.
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Mumbai Case Suspects Trained in LeT Camps
Mumbai Case Suspects Trained in LeT Camps
See here for a chronology of court drama in PakistanIntelligence officials informed an anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Saturday that suspects in the Mumbai attacks case got training at various centres of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) militant organisation, including navigational training in Karachi.
In their statements recorded before ATC judge Chaudhry Habibur Rehman, five inspectors of the Crime Investigation Department, who are prosecution witnesses in the case, informed the court about the training details and capabilities of suspects Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi (the alleged mastermind), Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hammad Amin Sadiq, Shahid Jameel Riaz, Jamil Ahmed and Younas Anjum.
The officials were in charge of CID stations in Okara, Bahawalpur, Rahimyar Khan, Mandi Bahauddin and Sheikhupura. They said the suspects, who allegedly participated in the attacks, were trained at the LeT training centres at Yousaf Goth in Karachi, Buttle in Mansehra, Mirpur Sakro in Thatta and Muzaffarabad.
The CID inspector from Okara alleged that Lakhvi was LeT’s ‘operational commander’ who trained other militants. Lakhvi went to Kunar and participated in Afghan jihad against the Soviet forces, he said.
A resident of Renala Khurd in Okara district, Lakhvi was an expert in using firearms and improvised explosive devices. He also remained ‘commander’ of LeT in Azad Kashmir, according to the statement.
The other inspectors informed the court that suspected abettors Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hammad Amin Sadiq and Shahid Jameel Riaz were also trained at LeT centres and at sea near Yousaf Goth in Karachi’s Gadap town.
FIA’s Special Prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar Ali told the court that the witnesses were responsible officials who had recorded their statements without any pressure. They had no ill-will against the suspects, he said, adding: “It was their job to keep the militants of proscribed organisation under observation.”
Khwaja Mohammad Haris, counsel for Lakhvi, asked the prosecution witnesses whether they had witnessed the suspects getting training at the LeT camps.
The witnesses admitted that they had never visited the LeT places or witnessed the suspects getting training in use of firearms or IEDs and had relied upon the reports of informers.
Mr Haris said the witnesses had no direct knowledge of the involvement of his client in the attacks and had never shared their intelligence with the police officials concerned.
Talking to Dawn, the lawyer said if the statements were true then it showed negligence on the part of witnesses because being responsible officials they did not take any step for closing the training camps. “If they knew that Lakhvi or other suspects were involved in suspicious activities then why they did not put their names in the Fourth Schedule to limit their movement. The prosecution has fabricated a false story against the suspects and the statements of the five witnesses are part of that story,” he alleged.
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Mumbai Case Suspects Trained in LeT CampsIntelligence officials informed an anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Saturday that suspects in the Mumbai attacks case got training at various centres of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) militant organisation, including navigational training in Karachi.
In their statements recorded before ATC judge Chaudhry Habibur Rehman, five inspectors of the Crime Investigation Department, who are prosecution witnesses in the case, informed the court about the training details and capabilities of suspects Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi (the alleged mastermind), Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hammad Amin Sadiq, Shahid Jameel Riaz, Jamil Ahmed and Younas Anjum.
The officials were in charge of CID stations in Okara, Bahawalpur, Rahimyar Khan, Mandi Bahauddin and Sheikhupura. They said the suspects, who allegedly participated in the attacks, were trained at the LeT training centres at Yousaf Goth in Karachi, Buttle in Mansehra, Mirpur Sakro in Thatta and Muzaffarabad.
The CID inspector from Okara alleged that Lakhvi was LeT’s ‘operational commander’ who trained other militants. Lakhvi went to Kunar and participated in Afghan jihad against the Soviet forces, he said.
A resident of Renala Khurd in Okara district, Lakhvi was an expert in using firearms and improvised explosive devices. He also remained ‘commander’ of LeT in Azad Kashmir, according to the statement.
The other inspectors informed the court that suspected abettors Abdul Wajid, Mazhar Iqbal, Hammad Amin Sadiq and Shahid Jameel Riaz were also trained at LeT centres and at sea near Yousaf Goth in Karachi’s Gadap town.
FIA’s Special Prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar Ali told the court that the witnesses were responsible officials who had recorded their statements without any pressure. They had no ill-will against the suspects, he said, adding: “It was their job to keep the militants of proscribed organisation under observation.”
Khwaja Mohammad Haris, counsel for Lakhvi, asked the prosecution witnesses whether they had witnessed the suspects getting training at the LeT camps.
The witnesses admitted that they had never visited the LeT places or witnessed the suspects getting training in use of firearms or IEDs and had relied upon the reports of informers.
Mr Haris said the witnesses had no direct knowledge of the involvement of his client in the attacks and had never shared their intelligence with the police officials concerned.
Talking to Dawn, the lawyer said if the statements were true then it showed negligence on the part of witnesses because being responsible officials they did not take any step for closing the training camps. “If they knew that Lakhvi or other suspects were involved in suspicious activities then why they did not put their names in the Fourth Schedule to limit their movement. The prosecution has fabricated a false story against the suspects and the statements of the five witnesses are part of that story,” he alleged.
They are going to distance and bury the ISI and the paki army involvement at any cost.
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I guess this belongs here. Even if GOI does not hang Kasab, nature might do the needful.
Kasab is fighting dengue in his anda cell
Kasab is fighting dengue in his anda cell
Another big expenditure for keeping the demon alive.Even the high-security anda cell of the Arthur Road Jail has been breached by the mosquito. And Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab, the 26/11 attacker who has been sentenced to death, has been laid low by the deadly dengue.
Sources from jail told DNA on Sunday that a team of doctors from the state-run JJ Hospital is treating Kasab inside the prison. They have ruled out, for the time being, any possibility of shifting him to a hospital.
“Kasab has been suffering from fever since the night of October 31. His blood test report revealed that he has dengue. His condition is not serious and he is being treated by a team of doctors within the jail,”
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Gagan wrote:I guess this belongs here. Even if GOI does not hang Kasab, nature might do the needful.
Kasab is fighting dengue in his anda cellAnother big expenditure for keeping the demon alive.Even the high-security anda cell of the Arthur Road Jail has been breached by the mosquito. And Mohammad Ajmal Amir Kasab, the 26/11 attacker who has been sentenced to death, has been laid low by the deadly dengue.
Sources from jail told DNA on Sunday that a team of doctors from the state-run JJ Hospital is treating Kasab inside the prison. They have ruled out, for the time being, any possibility of shifting him to a hospital.
“Kasab has been suffering from fever since the night of October 31. His blood test report revealed that he has dengue. His condition is not serious and he is being treated by a team of doctors within the jail,”
This may be the best way out.
No way that a mosquite could get into that high security cell because of lack of direct outside opening doors and windows. It could not have cost crores to build if it did not have, at the very least, it's own independent, controlled and secure air and power supply.
Of course one could always introduce a few pesky dengue mosquitoes right into the blighter's cell and wait patiently for the inevitable.
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just so non-Telugu folks know...dengue sounds like "fu(k" in Telugu. So, basically Kasab is getting screwed by dengue infected mosquitos in jail...one bite/stroke at a time.
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With the coming elections and what not, this may just be the best way out. Addresses the concerns of all communities. It is a "natural" encounter. kasab may truly be dengedSatya_anveshi wrote:just so non-Telugu folks know...dengue sounds like "fu(k" in Telugu. So, basically Kasab is getting screwed by dengue infected mosquitos in jail...one bite/stroke at a time.
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Thanks SS garu.
suggestion--
Is it possible to keep the chronology of court drama in the first post of this thread rather than in the thread
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Reason: When the new thread starts after this one terminates.
Reason: When the new thread starts after this one terminates.
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usually many develop dengue only a small number get serious. amongst the serious also few succumb to it.Gagan wrote:<snip>
Sources from jail told DNA on Sunday that a team of doctors from the state-run JJ Hospital is treating Kasab inside the prison. They have ruled out, for the time being, any possibility of shifting him to a hospital.
“Kasab has been suffering from fever since the night of October 31. His blood test report revealed that he has dengue. His condition is not serious and he is being treated by a team of doctors within the jail,”
majority recover well without ill effects. considering the above news, the terrorist pig is not having any major problems.
he should rot in jail with all ailments with lots of pain if he is not hanged.
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Take Action Against 26/11 State Actors: India
India must not be shy of explicitly saying 'state actors' every time they make a reference to 26/11 terrorists. In fact, they must go a step ahead and say that these state actors were from the PA and the PN. No vague references at all, after four years.India has welcomed the progress in the Pakistan trial of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commanders for their role in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, but has asked Islamabad to take action against the ‘ring leaders’ who orchestrated the entire operation.
“There are ring leaders [state actors] who should be tried for the attacks,” Union Home Secretary R.K. Singh told journalists. He, however, welcomed Pakistani investigating officials telling an anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi that the terrorists who carried out the attacks were trained at various LeT centres across Pakistan.
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Kasab hanged at Yerawada jail, Pune
Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorist Ajmal Kasab, accused for the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, was today hanged at the Yerwada Jail in Pune at 7:30 am after President Pranab Mukherjee rejected his mercy petition.
According to an TV reports, the petition was rejected on November 5 after which the Lashkar-e-Toiba operative was shifted from Mumbai's Arthur Road Jail to Pune's Yerawada Jail.
The entire process was excuted very secretly, the report added.
The President's rejection came two months after the Home ministry rejected Kasab's mercy petition.
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Awaiting a chorus of protest from the WKKs and Peaceniks.
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^^ Would have expected this just months before the elections!!
Maybe is a signals that elections are imminent!!
Maybe is a signals that elections are imminent!!
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^ elections or not glad that they went ahead and did it......quietly.
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^^ Yes, good message sent across, elections or not!
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http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/fees- ... so_seeFees for Kasab's lawyers to be given to families of policemen who died in 26/11
"New Delhi: The money spent on the legal defense of terrorist Ajmal Kasab - Rs. 14.5 lakhs - should be paid to the families of the 18 policemen, who died during the 26/11 attack in Mumbai, said the Supreme Court today.
"I appreciate the Supreme Court's gesture but I will donate the money to a charitable cause," said Smita Salaskar, whose husband Vijay was shot by Kasab outside the city's Cama Hospital.......
In August, the Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Kasab against the death sentence given to him by the Mumbai High Court. The top court asked the Maharashtra government to pay Rs. 11 lakhs to senior lawyer Raju Ramachandran and Rs. 3.5 lakhs to Gaurav Agarwal, who assisted him.
Both lawyers had refused the payment........"
I wonder who will take the body.
Gautam
"New Delhi: The money spent on the legal defense of terrorist Ajmal Kasab - Rs. 14.5 lakhs - should be paid to the families of the 18 policemen, who died during the 26/11 attack in Mumbai, said the Supreme Court today.
"I appreciate the Supreme Court's gesture but I will donate the money to a charitable cause," said Smita Salaskar, whose husband Vijay was shot by Kasab outside the city's Cama Hospital.......
In August, the Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Kasab against the death sentence given to him by the Mumbai High Court. The top court asked the Maharashtra government to pay Rs. 11 lakhs to senior lawyer Raju Ramachandran and Rs. 3.5 lakhs to Gaurav Agarwal, who assisted him.
Both lawyers had refused the payment........"
I wonder who will take the body.
Gautam
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SSridhar wrote:Kasab hanged at Yerawada jail, PuneLashkar-e-Toiba terrorist Ajmal Kasab, accused for the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, was today hanged at the Yerwada Jail in Pune at 7:30 am after President Pranab Mukherjee rejected his mercy petition.
According to an TV reports, the petition was rejected on November 5 after which the Lashkar-e-Toiba operative was shifted from Mumbai's Arthur Road Jail to Pune's Yerawada Jail.
The entire process was excuted very secretly, the report added.
The President's rejection came two months after the Home ministry rejected Kasab's mercy petition.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.:
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the pig reached his hell. good.
bonus no more biriyani and other expenditure on this well fed terrorist.
Only grouse he could have been executed earlier and saved a few crores.
this tamasha could have been avoided.
bonus no more biriyani and other expenditure on this well fed terrorist.
Only grouse he could have been executed earlier and saved a few crores.
this tamasha could have been avoided.
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Why suddenly? Daal mein kooch kaala hain.
Krisna: Sometimes process and drama are necessary; and in the long run they will be useful as precedence; and will far outweigh the saving of a few crores rupees.
Krisna: Sometimes process and drama are necessary; and in the long run they will be useful as precedence; and will far outweigh the saving of a few crores rupees.
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^^ Did he anyways reach EOL because of the Dengue he was suffering from?
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Well done GoI.
Whether Kasab ate biryani or ice cream in prison doesn't matter. I am happy that he was given a fair trial and all the legal processes were followed. Having said that this hanging doesn't mean much. He was just a bali ka bakra. The real perpetrator that is the state of Pakistan is alive and kicking.
Also today let's all remember Tukaram Ombale, a poor constable who sacrificed his life in capturing Kasab which helped establish the ultimate evidence that attacks originated from Pakistan.
Mumbai 2008: Never forgive. Never forget.
Whether Kasab ate biryani or ice cream in prison doesn't matter. I am happy that he was given a fair trial and all the legal processes were followed. Having said that this hanging doesn't mean much. He was just a bali ka bakra. The real perpetrator that is the state of Pakistan is alive and kicking.
Also today let's all remember Tukaram Ombale, a poor constable who sacrificed his life in capturing Kasab which helped establish the ultimate evidence that attacks originated from Pakistan.
Mumbai 2008: Never forgive. Never forget.
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I doubt...no one is hanged is he not well...he probably recovered well before he was sent to hellsum wrote:^^ Did he anyways reach EOL because of the Dengue he was suffering from?
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I do understand that due process of law has to be followed as per the norm in India. No question of it.SwamyG wrote:Why suddenly? Daal mein kooch kaala hain.
Krisna: Sometimes process and drama are necessary; and in the long run they will be useful as precedence; and will far outweigh the saving of a few crores rupees.
whole world knows it and reams of paper/press/tv etc all have been written on it. no one would have shed a tear or protested if he was hanged earlier.
But was unduly prolonged. that is