Bharat Rakshak

Good hypothetical scenario. I have cross posted it in an appropriate thread for discussion. On this thread this is off topic.

Good hypothetical scenario. I have cross posted it in an appropriate thread for discussion. On this thread this is off topic.
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USAF!!??!!??!!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-trqqM_LkUSU/UBJL8 ... GFA-01.jpg

Scientific production association "Saturn" the beginning of a new engine for the preparation of the future fighter T-50 (PAK FA) for bench testing. On this, as reported by "and-mash," said Yevgeny Marchuk, General Designer, Director of the Scientific and Technical Center Cradles name, part of the "Saturn". Engine test in 2014.

"In iron engine will be ready in two years, and will begin bench testing, will go to finishing. This - essentially a new engine, so it creates a long enough" - said Marchuk. According to him, the weight of the new power plant will be 30 percent less than that of the AL-41F1 ("Item 117", the modified version of the engine AL-41F1S for the Su-35), known as the engine of the first stage.

As expected, the life-cycle costs will also be almost a third less than that of the AL-41F1S and according Marchukova, "he should be cheaper." New engine for the PAK FA engine known as the second phase or "Type 30" will be significantly different from the currently used "Products 117". The latter will be installed in the first production car, until the end of the development of "Type 30".

I want our team to be participative in these testing and dev works. I am still not sure what is in the deal?

Not too sure at this point in time, but, I think India has funded an engine.

My read is that when India says the PMF/FGFA will be diff than the PAK-FA/T-50, it also includes the engine. My feel is that the Russians, for whatever reason, are not able to afford the plane being designed-built for the IAF.

I want our team to be participative in these testing and dev works. I am still not sure what is in the deal?

MOSCOW, December 12 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's fourth prototype Sukhoi T-50 stealth fighter jet took to the skies for the first time on Wednesday in a 40 minute flight at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur factory in Siberia, Sukhoi said.

"The fourth prototype PAK-FA made its first flight today from the Gagarin factory in Komsomolsk-on-Amur," Sukhoi said, referring to the aircraft by its project name, an acronym for future fifth-generation tactical fighter.

"The flight tested the aircraft's overall integrity and its main engines. The aircraft is making a good impression in all phases of the flying program," Sukhoi said.

The T-50, which will be the core of Russia's future fighter fleet, is a fifth-generation multirole fighter aircraft featuring low-observable technology (stealth), super-maneuverability, supercruise capability (supersonic flight without use of afterburner), and an advanced avionics suite including an X-band active phased-array radar.

The first prototype first flew on January 29, 2010.

The Russian Defense Ministry plans to purchase a first batch of 10 evaluation aircraft and then 60 production-standard aircraft after 2015.

Meanwhile, the Novosibirsk aircraft factory (NAPO) plans to deliver ten more Sukoi Su-34 strike aircraft to the Russian Air Force in the near future, the Air Force's Col. Andrei Bobrun said.

"The Novosibirsk factory will send another ten aircraft to the Voronezh air base in the near future," he said.

Evaluating the PAKFA


The PAKFA will be very stealthy in most radar bands, from the S down to the L band, although not stealthy against UHF radars such as the E-2 Hawkeye’s APS-145 and the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye’s APY-9 or the UHF-ground based radars used by some Chinese air defense systems.

E-2 aircraft of all variants will have no problem detecting the PAKFA. The problem is that the PAKFA (or other Russian fighters) will likely use Novator “AWACS-killer” A2A missiles to kill the Hawkeye and thus strip the opponent of the ability to detect the PAKFA.

Generally stealthy otherwise, with two exceptions:

1) The PAKFA’s conventional engine nozzles are not stealthy and would thus produce a large radar wave return. This is a problem the PAKFA shares with the F-35, but it can be solved by producing slit engine nozzles, as Lockheed Martin did for the F-22.

2) The PAKFA’s beam fuselage component is deeply sculpted and therefore not stealthy.

other weaknesses:-

PAKFA, like the F-35, can carry only 4 A2A missiles internally,..By virtue of carrying twice as many missiles as the PAKFA, the F-22 stands a twice higher chance of killing the Russian fighter than of being shot down by it.

Irbis-E radar with which the PAKFA will likely be equipped is inferior to the F-22′s APG-77 radar.

PAKFA has a WORSE thrust/weight ratio and a WORSE wing loading ratio than the F-22. At 50% fuel plus a full internal missile load, the PAKFA has a T/W ratio of 1.19:1 and a wing loading ratio of between 330-470 kg/sq m, more likely closer to the higher than to the lower figure, while the F-22 has a T/W ratio of 1.26:1 and a wing loading ratio of 375 kg/sq m.

Hi Res pictures of T-50-4 released

http://www.knaapo.ru/rus/gallery/events ... t-50-4.wbp

PAK-FA in black color, digital art. I draw this using Paint.NET and TwistedBrush Pro Studio v17.00.



Seems img bbcode not working. anyway below is the link for the picture.
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What is that thing in the background in the second picture

'Aircraft 976' is superficially similar to the A-50
AWACS, featuring an identical rotodome which,
incidentally, has earned it the nickname
Pogahnka (Toadstool) at L11. Like the A-50, it has
satellite communications and data link antennas
in a large dielectric fairing ahead of the wings

now that question makes me think about advanced photoshop gone messed up. good question