Bharat Rakshak

Please remove the pic of the lady showing her assets in Aircraft recognition thread. Already caught by surprise thrice, two times in office and once at home. Not that I am averse of such pics , but it's getting dangerous to open that thread.

Cheers....

Why delete the BT dhaga, saar? It can be cleaned and moved to gdf and we can wait until the discussion runs its course.

I think BRF should start online monthly publication on geostrategy in the Indian context. I sincerely feel it is time to move on from a discussion forum to being an institute.

Does anyone know why Rahul M is away? His participation is missed.

Not sure where Shiv ji is either. Don't lose hope for us, Saar.

He is very busy with some other matters. Shiv is very much there.
Many probably don't post out of sheer disgust at how things are run in this nation.

Thank you for writing back.

What would it take to have a BR ( Forum and all) app for iPhone? Any developers on the board?
It would be a good idea as many of us are nowadays online more on our phones.

X-Posting from Strat thread

a) We need the ability to cross-post comments from BRF to Twitter. Either the person who made the comment himself or someone else, with the appropriate attribution. There is more gyan in one page of the TSP forum than in all the so-called strategic analysis in our MSM put together. If SS-Garu for example opens a Twitter account, just BRF followers would exceed 50. We will then tell our friends & it will have a cascading effect. Soon, we have a bunch of heavy hitters on Twitter with a large following and the ability to shape opinion. I dont know if the Forum software allows it or whether we have the source code/APIs. But I think this is really important

b) We should promote Blogs of key contributors on the BR home page. BRF is great as a discussion forum, but its more like a flowing stream. We need not just the streams but also reservoirs, which are collected wisdoms to be used as references. BR Monitor & SRR are dead. Blogs will live.

Many on BRF post comments on MSM and even places like FirstPost. These are useful but only upto a point. What we do by commenting is that we give more oxygen to MSM, while at the same time it drains us of our energy and provides a channel for our frustration. Unfortunately, it plays into the hands of MSM. We need to change the narrative. We need our own space and direct people to "our space". BRF is one such space. We need more such - Blogs, Twitter and FaceBook are such spaces, which are right wing dominated. We need to expand our influence there and create a large mindshare.

This is very possible and BRF is perfectly poised to lead the charge

I don't know who puts the links in the "Top stories" section of the home page. A news item like this on the home page is disgraceful Video - Republic Day Parade Preparation. Poor reporter. It looks like an assignment thrust on her. I don't think she had any clue of the weapon systems she was talking about. She say that Brahmos is supersonic with a speed of 290 kmph. And that Arjun is being displayed for the first time in Republic Day parade.

Please screen/moderate what goes on the home page of the forum.

+1

This forum needs mobile/smart phone compatibility. Who doesn't own a smart phone these days? Even migrant labourers working on a construction site know what android is.

Admins? Smartphones/tablets cutting desktop computer sales. That's a sign.

I think we need a clean up in the strategic forum. Dharmic philosophy, and comparative theology while being critical to defining the indian state may not be relevant to some threads. We may also have too much overlap regarding a few threads. Perhaps we should have a more defined framework and and consequences for those who don't follow the rules or stay within bounds of the discussion.

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It is upto the moderators. But the so called "Idea of India" is caught up by MSM and intelligentsia. We have have been discussing this for past 2+ years. Please see the debates I posted in Indian interests.

Moderators can decide if BRF is better off collecting propaganda from the MSM and debating on them OR become a thought leader of strategic interests of Bharat.

Two Newbie threads are running in parallel. I think the old one wasn't archived, so people are responding there too

New thread idea: Non Indian view of India.

Opinions about India and Indians by non Indians. We can tag them as positive, negative & propaganda.

+ 1 from me too

Want a Like button incorporated asap.Will help novices like me participate by atleast liking and appreciating guru's comments. But i guess it will require an overhaul of the forum software..

Taking the liberty of x-posting this to the forum feedback thread.

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The forum clock is iffy, though the time zone is displayed properly.

I may be hallucinating, but I cant find the Indo-US strategic thread anywhere. Can some one please help.

dont know if this is a bug or a feature.

clicked on


opens up in editor mode with pentiah's post in quote. when i look at the url, it is mode=quote. but shouldnt that type of a thing be prohibited. that sai was able to create a link to pentiah's post that i can readily respond in quotes is disconcerting. it went through on my login, and that is fine. still hot link to editor is kinda strange.

JEM garu,

I do not think your criticism of forum members is fair. We have gone thru the phases of 2007-09 where the civilizational identity of India is not Hindu to 2009-11 phase where criticism of GoI is unacceptable to current phase of associating multi-dimensional failures of India with GoI.

Off all the people you should know that it is not fair to blame forum members for the failures of current political dispensation. Every thread "seem" to drift into criticism of current political dispensation, because that is where buck stops. Yes, we can discuss any topic for eons to come without any intention to base it on reality and objective to guide the current reality towards a desired goal, whatever that may be.

The current political dispensation is at helm for 10 years and has "enforced" it's will on every known and unknown constitutional, administrative, political, intellectual and propaganda structure in the nation. Any corner you look into is nothing but the microcosm of this very political dispensation.

All the threads in strategic and economic forums are one way or other tied with current ruling disposition of India. When the same political disposition in power for 10 years, it is no wonder that all the discussions in these fora reflect the successes and failures of that dispensation. Recently military forum too started drifting into this abyss, only because this political dispensation started eating into that national structure as well.

The general discussion forum came into existence only to "temporarily" hide the failures of this dispensation from the world and the mandate for that forum was to discuss civilizational level topics, when they become not "strategic" for they fail the secular tests.

Irrespective of whether this forum stands right of center or left of it or stays as an outlier, the duty of this forum is to churn out a better understanding of and betterment of Bharat that we all love and where our existence and identity comes from.

The termite families and their political slaves are simply a passing in history of this great nation. There is a bigger objective at stake. The lilliput leadership of this nation continued colonial government's model, laws, justice system, administrative system, police, education system and most importantly the history of this great nation. Since these lilliputs are not colonizers themselves, they even failed to show the efficiency the colonizers demonstrated in harnessing those colonial structures.

This should be the focus of this forum, IMHO. If this happens to be right of right in colonial structure, so be it. But somehow the elders of this forum are behaving like the very leadership that tried to become brown British and failed at it.

It is upto the elders if they want to become the discussion forum of the mainstream media that peddles secularism/pseudo-secularism just because they believe Hindu identity of India is unacceptable?

JMHT.

The rules are there, the tradition is there, adequate enforcement is lacking. The word religion IMO, does not apply to Indic traditions. As long as it does not call for exclusivity, we should be open to learning and applying lessons from our civilization history and traditions.

^ when someone calls for a religion to adapt and change, why not forum rules?

Eons ago I suggested something similar, admin log phoo-phooed and knocked it down. I tucked my tail and went to nukkad.

>>I do not think your criticism of forum members is fair.

That's fine. You have a right to your opinion about my action. Not everyone will like everything admins do. But so long as you are posting here, you will play by the rules or will get called out - if it is noticed.

folks...i believe anmol was a valuable poster in what he posted about microsoft and the bjp rss and other things. he may have made a mistake..but i vote for reinstating his posting rights

anmol's ban period is 1 month.

i would suggest a lesser period.....people lose interest. he is a good poster.

Anmol's ban period was reduced from a permanent ban to the minimum 1 month after discussions between moderators, due to his otherwise incident-free posting record working in his support. However, his ban was deserved - he was requested to cease and desist by multiple posters, in addition to multiple cautions by a moderator, all of which went unheeded.

Forum moderation requires users to back down when a moderation request is made. The actions may not seem fair then, and may even seem personal. That is a result of the order of priorities - we first seek to get the thread back on track, and then soothe ruffled feathers. The best course of action is to heed the request and if you feel you were unfairly cautioned, provide feedback here after a short cool down period. When someone responds by either ignoring or opposing efforts to moderate a heated discussion, than person becomes more likely to be warned or banned, even if (s)he wasn't the primary cause of the original derailment.

sometimes, when posters go postal on posting, it is hard for them to restrain and constrain themselves. ban (except for the word ban itself) could be a bane for such acts, and it helps mards and mullahs to get a ramzan time.

Well BRF took many years to degenerate to its current state of constant whinery and off topic arguments. But it has finally got there.

The mil forum was a refuge for some - but well all good things have to come to an end.

Congratulations one and all.

Hope you are not quitting posting.

I would like to create a thread on resource security (Food, water, precious metals and nonmetals, etc).

Mods I think it is time to learn, understand and discuss Buddhism, its socio-political contributions to India and world. This thread can go into Strategy forum.

Value proposition of this thread:
- It can help understand/explain how Buddhism as an ideology/religion inspired the social evolution in India. Readers can learn how many of current social practices came from Buddhism and not Hinduism.
- It can clarify if Buddhism really and unconditionally propagated "Peace at any cost" paradigm
- It can help understand how it strengthened/weakened Indian geopolitical interests.
- It can also help understand how Buddhism is guiding three/four key states in Bharatavarsha - Sri Lanka, Burma, China, Nepal and Tibet.

It would be sad to lose hakim sahib.

A question to mods. Sometimes, some of the replies or flow of gyan by BRF members are very exceptional. For those posts, can I mention that link in Twitter, is it okay?

Can't see why that would be an issue.

JEM garu,

Why do you think it is a BRF survival issue? BRF will survive and live the consequences of the choices the admins make.

It can be a reflection of contemporary social, national and political dispensation, in which case it would reflect the national mood as it has been doing now where the individual citizens/posters are disgusted with lack of national vision and capability to execute it, where the leadership/admins use propaganda, state machinery to suppress that anger and create diversions. In BRF we see this in unexplained secular, chanikiyan and piskology threads and discussions that go for fresh bowl movements every 72 pages.

Or It can offer a vision that reflects the true value proposition of the nation. This will require lot of vision, courage, political will and yes - risk taking mentality. It may or may not come to reality but the future generations will have the opportunity to build on top of it, instead of piles of media reports, which are nothing but propaganda articles spewed by the same Slave-India-Company interests.

There always exists a choice.

>>Or may be best to just let it die. Without a fight. So what... Detachment. Very dharmic.

JE Menon: Why does dharma get a rap This is a classic distortion of Sri Krishna's message. The detachment is from the fruits of works, not works themselves. To fight for what you believe is good and worth preserving is dharmic, to abandon station shall be adharmic. So, arise oh Arjuna!