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Dynastic Politics Bad for Nation

Funny...Anna Hazare made two comments yesterday: Dynastic politics bad for nation, and Modi has not implemented Lokayukta.

99% of Indian websites lead with his comments on Modi as the headline - excepting for the lone link above
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मोदी को PM पद के लिए बीजेपी करेगी प्रोजेक्ट, घोषणा जल्द!

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/91052/

and if this news of NaMo going to Kumbha is true then it`s a big development.

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^^Aha. So it is true then that NM will be attending the MahaKumbh and will be taking the blessings of Sadhu samaj....

Nice. after 1977, the next mahakumbh in 1989 also wrought up major political change by bringing the RJB issue centrestage and how.

The 2001 mahakumbh did not roil the polity as twas anyway an NDA sarkar (non-anti-Hindu, basically) in power then. Time again in 2013 for a roil, perhaps.

BTW, all these creatiove types from product designers to ad agencies are flocking to the sangam to get a pulse of the people. I hear from reliable sources that FMCG majors have put rural mktg spends on hold till after the kumbh gives signals as to who and what is hot or not in the semi-rural landscape of Bharat. Thats how the product endoresement quotient factor of a sonakshi sinha has jumped for instance - because her connect with the masses is much higher than some other glam names doing the rounds.
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शादी में कांग्रेस के नेताओं ने लगाए नारे, देश का प्रधानमंत्री कैसा हो, नरेंद्र मोदी जैसा हो

जयपुर. कांग्रेस के दिग्गज नेताओं की मौजूदगी में गुजरात के सीएम नरेंद्र मोदी को देखकर देश का प्रधानमंत्री कैसा हो, नरेंद्र मोदी जैसा हो, को लेकर लगे नारों की शनिवार को राजनीतिक हलकों में जोरदार चर्चा रही। इसे नरेंद्र मोदी की भारी लोकप्रियता और नायक की छवि के रूप में देखा जा रहा है।

माना जा रहा है कि मुख्यमंत्री अशोक गहलोत से नाराजगी के चलते मोदी को देखकर जाट समाज के कांग्रेसी नेताओं ने मोदी के पक्ष में प्रधानमंत्री बनने के बारे में नारे लगाए। दरअसल गुजरात की राज्यपाल कमला के बेटे आलोक बेनीवाल की बेटी अदिति की शादी कांग्रेस के महासचिव सुरेश चौधरी के बेटे विकास से शुक्रवार रात होटल राजमहल पैलेस में हुई।

इस शादी में राजस्थान कांग्रेस के सारे दिग्गज नेताओं ने शिरकत की। तब वरिष्ठ नेता रहे परसराम मदेरणा और उनकी पोती दिव्या मदेरणा भी वहीं थी। वहां गुजरात के सीएम नरेंद्र मोदी और भाजपा सांसद ओम माथुर रात दस बजे आए। मोदी को देखकर वहां कांग्रेस नेताओं और उनके परिवारजनों की भीड़ झलक पाने के लिए उमड़ पड़ी।


मोदी सीधे मंच की तरफ गए। वहां वर-वधू को आशीर्वाद दिया। इसके बाद राज्यपाल कमला और राजस्थान की राज्यपाल मार्गेट अल्वा से दुआ सलाम की। इसी दौरान दिलचस्प वाकया हो गया। सबसे दिलचस्प नजारा यह था कि यहां दिग्गज कांग्रेसी नेताओं की मौजूदगी में लोगों ने नरेंद्र मोदी के समर्थन में जमकर नारेबाजी की।

कांग्रेस नेताओं की मौजूदगी में भीड़ ने देश का प्रधानमंत्री कैसा हो, नरेंद्र मोदी जैसा हो के नारे से शादी के लॉन को गुंजा दिया।
इसके बाद नरेंद्र मोदी सीधे एयरपोर्ट चले गए।

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कुंभ में मोदी के भाग्य का फैसला

नरेंद्र मोदी के लिए पीएम की उम्मीदवारी का रास्ता अब महाकुंभ से साफ होगा। विश्व हिंदू परिषद से जुड़े संतों की यहां सात फरवरी को बैठक होगी। इसमें भाजपा की ओर से प्रधानमंत्री पद के लिए गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री नरेंद्र मोदी को उम्मीदवार बनाए जाने के लिए लामबंदी की जाएगी।

सात फरवरी को संत समाज नरेंद्र मोदी के नाम पर अपनी मुहर लगा सकता है।
इसके बाद भाजपा पर संत समाज नरेंद्र मोदी की उम्मीदवारी के लिए दबाव बनाएगा।

आपको बता दें कि भाजपा की कोर कमेटी की बैठक भी इसी महीने होने वाली है। भाजपा अध्यक्ष राजनाथ सिंह भी 6 फरवरी को कुंभ जाएंगे और साधु-संतों से मिलेंगे। राजनाथ सिंह ने सांस्कृतिक राष्ट्रवाद के प्रति अपनी प्रतिबद्धता जताई। हिंदुत्व को भाजपा का अभिन्न अंग बताया। राजनाथ सिंह ने कहा कि यह नफरत की नहीं बल्कि प्रेम की विचारधारा है। उधर विहिप भी अब राम जन्मभूमि को उठाने वाला है। विहिप के संरक्षक अशोक सिंघल ने कहा है कि भगवान रामलला को कपडे के मंदिर से मुक्त कर उनके गौरव के अनुरूप 70 एकड़ परिसर में विशाल मंदिर का निर्माण किया जाए। उन्होंने कहा कि तीर्थराज प्रयाग में चल रहा महाकुंभ बहुत महत्वपूर्ण है जिसमें संत ज्वलंत विषयों पर निर्णय लेंगे।

गौरतलब है कि आजकल भाजपा में पीएम पद की उम्मीदवारी के लिए नरेंद्र मोदी के नाम पर मुहिम सी चल पड़ी है। यशवंत सिन्हा से लेकर राम जेठमलानी तक लगातार पैरवी कर रहे हैं।

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I suspect that one of the ways the RSS can clear up its stand on the NM and signal an all clear with VHP, for the benefit of the karyakartas is by making this a success.

Basically send only one guy from the political wing to receive the blessings. The blessings be seen to be delivered with consensus. The one guy returning back to take on a role with some subtle changes that signify the initial steps towards a fuller campaign.

This will also avoid ringing the alarm bells at 10JP/7RCR since Kongi supporters will essentially treat this as regular stuff.

JMT.
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Rahul, Modi may visit Mahakumbh, seek blessing of Hindu seers for 2014 elections

Rahul plans to rediscover his 'Hindu' roots for a brief while, so he can play party-pooper ...??
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Arjun wrote:Rahul, Modi may visit Mahakumbh, seek blessing of Hindu seers for 2014 elections

Rahul plans to rediscover his 'Hindu' roots for a brief while, so he can play party-pooper ...??
Somebody should tell Ralph Gandhi that Mahakumbh is not in Orlando, Florida!
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but be assured, a huge team of paid MSM will be accompanying the clown prince and his horse cavalry...with a small harem of MSM anchors the designated 2 km behind in a separate convoy..just as aurangzeb used to travel in the deccan.
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For RaulG, path to success is to make NaMo look bad, and not much else if anything at all.
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Priyanka will be a fresh face for Congress if she is suddenly projected as PM candidate. Rahul maybe being used to deflect opposition focus. Ofcourse, she is just as pathetic as her brother but unlike him she doesn't carry the same baggage except for Vadra.
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This is quite unprecedented...MSM (aka "dork media") is capitulating one by one, & coming to grips with the wave sweeping the nation:

The Modi Wave
First it was the diplomats from countries such as England and the US, who had till then shunned contact with Narendra Modi, turning up to serenade him; then, it was the turn of industrialists to fete the chief minister of Gujarat; and, more recently, it was the turn of the top leaders of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) to line up behind Modi as the man to lead the party in the next general election, which is due in 2014. And, of course, sections of the urban middle class, even outside Gujarat, dote on him, drawing from his carefully crafted image of toughness and being incorruptible.

This is déjà vu. A similar trend had preceded the coronation of Atal Bihari Vajpayee as India’s first BJP prime minister in 1998. Indeed, if the current context holds up and if BJP does finally nominate Modi as its prime ministerial candidate, then there is a good chance of NaMo generating a wave in the next general election. Not only has he cleverly positioned himself as the option, the imagery that Modi has created around himself highlights the weakness of his opponents—whether in the BJP or outside it. And the mastery of the political manoeuvre is such that he has himself never articulated either his ambition or intent: everybody else, particularly critics, speak for him.

The dramatic loss of momentum of the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) in its second tenure together with fundamental concerns on governance (especially allegations of corruption in public office and its inexplicable inability to contain inflation) is what has created the political circumstance for the opposition; that the BJP has been unable to exploit this has only worked in Modi’s favour. Capital Calculus has in the past flagged that the resulting vacuum was waiting to be exploited and it does appear that a confluence of factors suggest that Modi is poised to seize it.

First, the only question mark over his candidature had been his performance in the just concluded Gujarat election; despite what critics said and did, Modi won decisively for the third time. Remarkable, since there were sections even within the BJP seeking to undermine his efforts. That he was going to win was a foregone conclusion, given that the Congress barely put up a fight; but critics, especially the armchair ones who surfaced on television shows, repeatedly argued otherwise. (The cleverer thing would have been to raise questions on his ability to manage a coalition at the centre; especially given that the only way he has dealt with dissent within the Gujarat BJP unit is by stamping it out—something that can’t work in a diverse coalition—and establishing himself as the supremo.)

The shining Gujarat story has only enhanced his image, especially to industry, as someone who can deliver on promises. (Recall Ratan Tata’s remark about the “good M” and the “bad M”, immediately after an agitation sponsored by Mamata Banerjee aborted the company’s small car project in West Bengal.) The business-friendly administration Modi seems to promise is critical in a country where industrialists, despite whatever they say, are crucially dependent on government not just for largesse but also bailouts in bad times.

Second, is the UPA’s apparent vulnerability or softness when it comes to dealing with Pakistan. While jingoism demands an eye for an eye, pragmatism suggests otherwise; a war or even a skirmish with a nuclear armed neighbour has the potential of catastrophe built into it. It is the UPA’s failure to make its case, say like Vajpayee did after the Parliament attack in 2001; mobilizing the troops without actually going to war was sufficient to beat some sense into Pakistan and appease middle class righteous angst. In politics, it is not what you do, but what you are seen to be doing that is critical. Modi’s belligerence works the middle class sentiment, subtly suggesting that he will be willing to stand up to Pakistan.

What the middle class, especially the younger populace, thinks is important. Due to the rapid growth, urbanization has got a big push. Officially, the proportion of urban population is estimated at 33% by the 2011 Census; include census towns, glorified villages that mimic urban characteristics, this proportion almost becomes half. Since voting patterns in urban India generally differ from rural India, the middle class, already under stress from joblessness, rampant inflation and failed aspirations, will in all probability be the key to the next general election.

Finally, there is a visible communal polarization happening across the country. And this time, unlike in the 1980s and 1990s, it is not being inspired by Hindutva ideological forces. Instead, the pressure is coming from an upsurge of fringe Muslim groups, which in a bid to unseat the moderate elements are playing a radical Islam card (Akbaruddin Owaisi was the latest such example); reports keep trickling in from Uttar Pradesh and elsewhere that in some instances this even leads to rioting. The overt attempt by political parties such as the Samajwadi Party and the Congress through policy interventions has only further reinforced this polarization; once again, creating in the minds of some Hindu voters the sentiment of persecution. Modi’s visible Hindutva credentials only make him the perfect candidate to tap such sentiment.

In the final analysis, it is evident that the current context favours a Modi inspired wave. So when opinion polls claim that BJP is the front runner if polls are called today, they are right. But the best thing about politics is its fluidity and lack of permanence. The general election is still officially a year away; a lot can happen between now and then.
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If Modi does attain the gaddi, what are the realistic expectations from him?

will he be able to dent the Islamic consolidation in the North and places like Kerala in the South?

is the time even right to attempt such a thing?

has the "Hindu" woken up to the extent that he/she will back the leader who attempts such a thing?
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Deveshji

At the best
1. we can expect the law and order implemented based on the facts and not some political goals.
2. We can expect "efficient" use of national resources that will benefit all Indians without any "first claims"
3. We can expect businesses implement their plans in a fast-paced manner thus achieve the industrial growth in-time
4. We can expect some projects that will be beneficial to Indian cultural and heritage celebration (few examples are - river cleaning projects, better Eco-tourism infra around various rivers etc)
5. We can expect the TSUchiyapanti of Aman Ki Tamasha ends

NM should not be made responsible for
1. RJB project - a new leader (or VHP) should take this responsibility
2. UCC - some leader (Arun Jaitley?) should make it his life goal
3. A370 - some leader should make it his/her life goal

And so on..
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MSM may be coming around to BJP

a) because they were American enterprises in India, and USA has given them the green light

b) because when they all pile up on Modi later on, they can claim impartiality.
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Devesh ji, the bigger goals that are relevant to us because of our being hindu should be, pursued as a common goal of all Hindus. That requires time and scratch barrel effort.

Relying solely on NM without a fit and proper Hindu awakening would in itself be wrong. That kind of contortionist idea is essentially a Dynastic idea of getting things done through agents.

For Hindus the direct method of taking on responsibility for their common causes, basically a Kaar Seva is the key.

I do however expect a lot off cultural efforts that were scuttled by the Dynasty to gain ground. ASI will go ahead with big archeological projects. The efforts of Sant Mahants will increase and bear fruit.
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devesh wrote:If Modi does attain the gaddi, what are the realistic expectations from him?

will he be able to dent the Islamic consolidation in the North and places like Kerala in the South?

is the time even right to attempt such a thing?

has the "Hindu" woken up to the extent that he/she will back the leader who attempts such a thing?
Realistic expectations:
(1) Make sure that the institutions such as CBI, judiciary are really independent with no Sonia moles or any type moles.
(2) Intel agencies work for India rather congress party. Make them independent and lethal.
(3) Congress ruled India for 50+ years so it has advantage among the establishment. Destroy that advantage permanently. That itself will lead to automatic changes where real people power is represented. This is fundamental change that India needs. The Dilli billi that is created during Mughal times extended to British and is core of Congress party. This has to go if India really has to feel and breathe the freedom
(4) Good electoral reforms where there is no room for a winner getting less than 50% of votes polled. This will destroy the negatives of casteism, vote blocks and entitlement based coalitions.
(5) Economic liberalization that will abolish entitlements such as NRGEA and reduce labor costs so that competitive small scale industry develops to compete with other Asian nations.

Above is a tall order that ABV could not realize during his rule. If Modi can achieve just those in the next term that is enough.

The following are bonus (not required):
(1) stopping illegal immigration
(2) Constructing a massive Ram temple at Ayodhya
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M ji stopping illegal immigration is far more easier than all the items you have mentioned above :D

NaMo should strive for better defence procurement and indigenisation of defence products. that in itself will cut off the gravy train that high fliers of delhi live on but i guess it will be very hard to do that given the lobby is extremely strong
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what about cleaning up the "security apparatus"? something like dismissing all "managers" above a certain rank in CBI/IB/etc? perhaps even doing the "unthinkable": put a BJP/RSS worker/loyalist as head of one of these agencies and have them clean up the whole organization? this is the American style of govt: heads of major agencies are changed by each administration.

the "managers" who show a peculiar cruelty in going after INC/Dynasty's enemies should perhaps receive "special" treatment that will remind the others just what awaits them if they go out of control in service to dynasty?
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^ that cannot be done simply and overtly Devesh garu. They should be moved out in a subtle manner. There are many ways for it.
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For a model ring road, look to Modi’s Surat

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130204/j ... Q794B0Tg44
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RamaY wrote:^ that cannot be done simply and overtly Devesh garu. They should be moved out in a subtle manner. There are many ways for it.

agreed. but will Modi do it? can he do it?
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^^^^
NaMo has too much to do in short span, never have any expectations from non congis including NaMo or any other leader.

Dislodging congis and its supporters itself is a monumental one due to the criminal nexus between congis- media- some sections of judiciary etc.

simply put NaMo if he ever attains the PM gaddi should just concentrate on good governance.
If he just get the good governance with reforms the rest will take care of itself.
Just free the people. They will take care of the rest.
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As a die-hard NaMo fan, am aghast to say this: But aren't we nationalists putting all our hopes in the one NM basket?

The low-lives NM is ranged against can stoop very low indeed. Attempted assassinations etc cannot be ruled out. I fear for the man's safety.

As for NM doing something or not once he beoomes PM, I'd say have no fears on any account. NM has shown, repeatedly that he is predictably unpredictable. And if something is in national interest, he'll find a way to get it done - a way that'll fox both bitter-critic and ardent-admirer alike. Only.
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Gujarat’s good show in urban projects puts UPA in a spot
NEW DELHI: Gujarat's high rating in urban infrastructure development projects under the Centre's flagship JNNURM scheme seems to have become a new headache for the government at a time when UPA-2 would like to highlight its achievements before the next national polls.

So far, a majority of models suggested by the Union urban development (UD) ministry to state governments are from Gujarat, whether it's self-financing of a road project or intelligent traffic system for safe public transport.

While another 'best model' in public transport system has become a reality in BJP-ruled Karnataka, only one Congress-ruled state has followed suit — Rajasthan with 'Alwar Vahini'.

In recent months, the UD ministry has issued four circulars on successful transport models which it recommended to state governments to adopt/emulate. The latest one was the Centre pushing the Surat model of developing an outer ring road without any government investment. Under this model, the project would generate about Rs 11,960 crore over five years against an investment of Rs 5,796 crore.

Earlier, the ministry had asked the states to follow the G-Auto model of Ahmedabad where a cluster of auto rickshaws is managed through a common control room. The advisory for states had come after the Nirbhaya gang rape incident. "There is no doubt that Gujarat has the best performance when it comes to urban infrastructure development and this cannot be ignored by anyone. So, there is nothing wrong if the Centre has asked others to learn and set such examples," said a ministry official.

However, for the Congress-led UPA, this is a sour pill to swallow and allow Narendra Modi's government to take the credit of successfully demonstrating best models of urban development.

In fact, now with the Cabinet allowing the UD ministry to sanction new projects and capacity building of cities and municipal bodies till March 2014 totaling an investment of Rs 15,000 crore, the ministry is likely to take a decision on the criteria of sanctioning projects — success rate or population.

On January 31, the ministry issued an office memorandum stating that projects to be sanctioned are under the sub-mission of JNNURM relating to Urban Infrastructure and Governance (UIG) and Urban Infrastructure Development for Small and Medium Towns (UIDSSMT).

This should bring some relief to the UPA. The latest data on completion of UIG and UIDSSMT till December end publicized by the ministry shows that Arunachal Pradesh had 75% completion in both the categories, which is the highest. AIADMK-ruled Tamil Nadu ranked second with 68% completion and Andhra Pradesh came third with 57%. Gujarat ranked fourth in this category with 54% of projects getting completed.
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Hari Seldon wrote:As a die-hard NaMo fan, am aghast to say this: But aren't we nationalists putting all our hopes in the one NM basket?

The low-lives NM is ranged against can stoop very low indeed. Attempted assassinations etc cannot be ruled out. I fear for the man's safety.

As for NM doing something or not once he beoomes PM, I'd say have no fears on any account. NM has shown, repeatedly that he is predictably unpredictable. And if something is in national interest, he'll find a way to get it done - a way that'll fox both bitter-critic and ardent-admirer alike. Only.
I agree. He will be taking on the entire sec-left-corrupt-mafia-terrorist nexus. They will be done if they don't send him to his next life. Assassination cannot be ruled out. Hopefully, he has some allies in the intelligence/military who are giving him extra cover.
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Hari Seldon wrote:As a die-hard NaMo fan, am aghast to say this: But aren't we nationalists putting all our hopes in the one NM basket?

The low-lives NM is ranged against can stoop very low indeed. Attempted assassinations etc cannot be ruled out. I fear for the man's safety.

As for NM doing something or not once he beoomes PM, I'd say have no fears on any account. NM has shown, repeatedly that he is predictably unpredictable. And if something is in national interest, he'll find a way to get it done - a way that'll fox both bitter-critic and ardent-admirer alike. Only.
Can you figure out how to create many numbers of NaMo type of leaders
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RG baba wants to try Chellum and new stuff he got from Columbia at the maha kumbh, how does combustion create Smoke and mirrors, is what he wants from Sadhu Rams so that he can become Aa_gaya Ram Rahul
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Modi as PM: Shobha De and Prahlad kakkar tussle at Taj Litfest

Agra: More than literature, it was politics that got highlighted at the concluding day of the Taj Literature Festival Sunday with a tussle over Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as a prime ministerial candidate.

Author Shobha De targeted Modi for post-Godhra riots and ruled out his candidature for prime ministership. She said if the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) wanted to project him as its candidate for the top post, "Why don't they announce his name right now?"

BJP leader Vani Tripathi countered her, saying: "When the time comes, it will be done."

Ad guru Prahlad Kakkar was more categorical. He not only supported Modi but said the youths of India want him.

The big gathering did not support De, as no one appeared to agree with her. Other leaders did not fare well.

Photographer Raghu Rai termed Congress's new vice president Rahul Gandhi a "bhaiyya," while De said Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav was ok in parts, but appeared to have lost his political track.

Kakkar said the country needed a strong dose of purgative to get rid of constipation.

Media persons tried hard to drag writers and celebrities into controversial politics, but they most carefully avoided making any critical political comments, perhaps learning from the fallout of Jaipur Festival.

http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/UP-mod ... 4-NOR.html
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if people vote for modi, then by the time end of 5 years, it would be horrors and nightmares for him and honest afsars executing projects. i am not sure what is the plan for corrupted junta out there with no controls or measurements. everything is lose in many parts of the country, where without corruption means, life is dead kinds. well, it is way too much to rectify, and one term is not enough to undo the wrong doings thus far.

we need many modi-lets. can he make more modies to take up this job? m-robots.
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Hariji, brand namo has moved from being a person to a ideology. Ideology of good governance and innovative thinking. Thanks to internet he must have already inspired many next gen leaders. No amount of paid news is going to wipeout whats in the subconsious.
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Hari Seldon wrote:As a die-hard NaMo fan, am aghast to say this: But aren't we nationalists putting all our hopes in the one NM basket?

The low-lives NM is ranged against can stoop very low indeed. Attempted assassinations etc cannot be ruled out. I fear for the man's safety.

As for NM doing something or not once he beoomes PM, I'd say have no fears on any account. NM has shown, repeatedly that he is predictably unpredictable. And if something is in national interest, he'll find a way to get it done - a way that'll fox both bitter-critic and ardent-admirer alike. Only.

Hari bhai, there are two consittuent inputs in this equation.

No one man is perfect. Not at least for a desirable length of time. But the desires are an elastic idea and can be managed. Men on the other hand are subject to time. They are nashwar. Modi will not be there in some years (~20 years). Modi will not be there politically much before that (~5-10 years).

The other part of equation is the public. This public needs an Axis/Dhuri to go around. Modi is juist as good a dhuri as any other. Better by most accounts. People had used MKG as a dhuri. MKG was not a perfect man. But the people could use him as a their dhuri. Dhuri is not a temporal structure that can be made subject to dangers and tribulations of partisan attacks. It is basically the desire of people to aggregate. It is more a 'property' of the masses.

The point is if this axle breaks the public will immidiately start looking for another one. Our job is to ensure it that the alignment is not disturbed and later on just about any decently manufactured axle can be used. There is just no way a mass of people who have witnessed the work of Modi will let go of this desire to replicate his progress. That part is ingrained in us. We need to ensure that it reaches the maxx. number of people get infected. Modi may not eventually come. Hardly matters. The 'need to feel' is much more important. This public should not just accept the 'received wisdom' manufactured in dust free aseptic rooms called 'Humanities department'.
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Acharya wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:As a die-hard NaMo fan, am aghast to say this: But aren't we nationalists putting all our hopes in the one NM basket?

The low-lives NM is ranged against can stoop very low indeed. Attempted assassinations etc cannot be ruled out. I fear for the man's safety.

As for NM doing something or not once he beoomes PM, I'd say have no fears on any account. NM has shown, repeatedly that he is predictably unpredictable. And if something is in national interest, he'll find a way to get it done - a way that'll fox both bitter-critic and ardent-admirer alike. Only.
Can you figure out how to create many numbers of NaMo type of leaders
Depends on the tree. If the tree is unhealthy, may be only the rare fruit will grow, but if it is healthy, then the tree would be laden with good fruit.

Or one can try to improve the soil, water and air bit by bit a hope the tree gets healthier.

One can of course also try to use the seed of only the good fruit to sow healthier trees, and concentrate all resources on them.
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Ha! Positive news about Gujarat - "Gujarat government". Negative news - "Modi government". Recent report - http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... rd-victims
Narendra Modi government lets funds for rape victims lapse
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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/flags ... 12790.html
Flagship schemes for poor are falling apart. Will Cong learn?
According to a report in The Times of India on Sunday, over three years from 2009-10, total work generated under MGNREGS witnessed about 25 percent decline from 284 crore person-days to 211 crore person-days.

Further, Dalit households witnessed a 46 percent decline in work days by a staggering 46 percent over the same period, from about 86 crore to 47 crore person-days. Meanwhile, for adivasis the decline was 35 percent, from 59 crore to 38 crore person-days, the report said.

The MGNREGS is being criticised by a section of economists and experts for various reasons, the important among them being that it is resulting in a spiral of wage inflation in the rural area and distorting the labour market there.
According to the report, which is a follow-up of an item that was shown on Headlines Today channel, a CAG audit of 1,00,000 cases in 800 bank branches has revealed that ineligible farmers and entities have benefitted from the scheme.

Towards this end, documents were tampered with. In some cases, banks even charged the farmers for the services and curiously, a few microfinance institutions have got the relief.

For beginners, the farm loan waiver scheme was aimed to write off farmers’ loans worth about Rs 52,000 crore. Those eligible were small and marginal farmers holding up to 5 acres of agriculture land and loans up to Rs 50,000. As many as 3.45 crore farmers were to benefit from the waiver.
It is clear that most of the criticism against both the schemes have turned out to be true. In most cases, benefits are not reaching the intended beneficiaries and are being pocketed by the middle men.

In the case of MGNREGS, lack of political will to implement the scheme in letter and spirit was evident from the beginning.

The scheme, if implemented as envisaged in the Act, would have resulted in devolution of power, which to a large extent could have helped plug the leaks.

According to the ToI report, Pramathesh Ambasta of the NREGA Consortium, an advocacy group, is of the opinion that one of the reasons for the decline in persondays “is lack of awareness that MGNREGS work is a right rather than something the system will provide”.
The Congress is projecting direct cash transfer as its next big move that takes its inclusive development theme forward. But here too critics have warned of likely leakages, which may result in the benefits not reaching the intended beneficiaries.
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http://newsinsight.net/TheriseAndrise.aspx#page=page-1
THE RISE & RISE
After Vajpayee, the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha finds in Modi a leader of doughty and thorough imponderability. There is nobody who can claim to know Modi. This man who is accused of the riots should have bent backwards to save supposed fellow-travellers in the Sangha Parivar to save his own skin. He did nothing of the sort, which is one reason the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the Gujarat RSS hated him, and opposed his third term, to the extent of backing Keshubhai Patel, and trucking with the Congress. The industrialists who buttress him want no more of the Congress at the Centre, its corruptibility and venality being no guarantee for growth, but realize he is not their man in the long haul. In a phrase, Modi is nobody’s stooge. He is a man driven by pure nationalism, and such a man is impossible to cage and contain, as jejune Delhi is discovering to its dismay.

Reliable media reports say Narendra Modi will kick off his national campaign, as it were, with an interaction with students in Delhi. He is apparently giving it priority over a Kumbh engagement which the VHP will apparently employ to ceremonially declare him its PM candidate. With Modi, this is true to form, if you get to the essence of the man, as he has evolved. His religion is important to him, as it would be to any believer, but it doesn’t come in the way of his official duties. Which is why he has gotten a third term in Gujarat, where his speeches are about the 6 crore Gujaratis, whilst the opposition tries to divide votes on caste and communal lines. He may visit Kumbh, the reports said, but for perhaps personal religious observances. This should also tell you that Modi follows his own lights.
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-t ... 12816.html
When asked about the potential declaration of Narendra Modi as the Prime Ministerial candidate at a two-day meet of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad at Allahabad during the Mahakumbh, a leader who works with both the RSS and BJP said,”“Mahakubmh me toh dubki lagti hai, Rajtilak ki muhar toh Dilli me hi lagti hai (Mahakumbh is for a holy dip, the anointment for a throne is done in Delhi).”
Modi is also all set to expand his youth constituency, as seen through an interaction he will have with students of Delhi’s Sri Ram College of Commerce on 6 February. This will be his first interaction with students outside Gujarat. Though Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha, Arun Jaitley, a prominent alumnus of that college was seen to be the architect behind the move, he is unlikely to be present there.

It is in this context that Modi supporters believe that his projection as Prime Ministerial candidate at the Kumbh Sant conclave is a design to portray him as Hindutava ideology poster boy by political rivals outside of the BJP so that he his appeal gets limited only to certain sections of society.
Looks like we will have Buddhu vs Modiji video comparision of their dialogue with young citizens ( a.ka. young Indians not citizens as Buddhu calls). Lets compare and contrast.
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Good interview. What a great leader. Favors creating an environment where states should bring forth the best that they have to offer and learn from each other. While public sector dominance in education is fine I feel that moving away from the traditional European classroom model is key. We also need to give students more specialized skills so that they can compete.
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From the Namo vide i picked up a new tagline "clarity on objectives shouldnt be confused for autocracy"
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Didn't ask BJP to announce PM candidate in advance, clarifies Nitish

Could it really be? Streaks of reasonableness from the allegedly prince-pled skewlar Nitish kr ji, eh? Nitish's bloated ego has been desperately asking for a few tight jhapads only. Can only hope they're delivered soon, preferably publicly.
Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar - whose opposition to the candidature of his Gujarat counterpart Narendra Modi for the 2014 general election has been well known - on Sunday hastily declined to have given any interview to a leading Hindi daily which had quoted him as saying that the BJP should declare its prime ministerial candidate well in advance of the Lok Sabha election.

Nitish said that he had not given any interview in this regard. A press release issued by his public relation officer also said that the chief minister had not given any interview to the Hindi daily in the first place which was being quoted by a television channel.

The daily had quoted Nitish as saying that the name of the prime ministerial candidate should be announced before the general elections the way it had been done in case of Atal Bihari Vajpayee in 2004.

This was the second time in recent times when Nitish had to issue a quick denial after a purported interview on the issue of the prime ministerial candidate came out. In August last year, Nitish had denied giving an interview to a weekly news magazine which had also quoted him on the controversial topic. In that interview, Nitish had been quoted as saying that he would snap ties with BJP if Narendra Modi was declared as the prime ministerial candidate of the BJP.
Shouldn't be hard to see the presstitues are on a mission to force a stumble. WHy not such pointed Qs on RG's PM candidature? After all INC only made him VP, didn't officially declare him PM candidate now, did it?
DU's national spokesman Shivanand Tiwari said that the media seemed to be obsessed with the question of the prime ministerial candidate.
Yawn. So whats new, eh?

Meanwhile...
From the Namo vide i picked up a new tagline "clarity on objectives shouldnt be confused for autocracy"
Ah. the vision+will thing. Which will be defamed by the whiners, as usual. NM keeps well above their cheap tricks & their small minds, though.
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Note the anxiety across the border in TSP.
They might do the INC a favor.
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