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The mockup was shown on L7T site at AI 2010. Saya from defenceforum india had taken the pics.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/stra ... post694552
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/stra ... post694552
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I think this is the older TEL. I think TATA reported at DefExpo'12, that Nirbhay will be based on the indigenous TATA 12X12. I remember Dr. Saraswat citing this change as the reason for the delay (though he did not say TATA, he said indigenous).
Tata Motors’ Defence Vehicles
Tata Motors’ Defence Vehicles
Tata 12x12 Prahaar Missile System:
Tata Motors Ltd has developed an indigenous high mobility, all-terrain and all-wheel drive, Tata LPTA 5252-12 X12 vehicle, specifically for missile launcher cum carrier applications like integration of Prahar, BrahMos and Nirbhay Missiles, in close coordination with R&DE – DRDO.
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Interestingly, Frontline magazine had an article as far back as Dec 1996-Jan 1997, which referred to Lakshya as a possible cruise missile. Around the same time, the "Economist" magazine hinted that it could be one.geeth wrote:I have always wondered why the DRDO guys kept on flight testing Lakshya for decades. With limited funds, may be they could do only that. But, if what is claimed is TRUE, Hats off to their ingenuity and concealment.
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It is like 2 meter long and 1 meter wide Trishul flights (which was Anti Missile system testes)
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Only possibility is a small diameter tail mounted contra rotating prop fan but that is an odd choice that goes against everything done so far in the field. The stuff about being reusable and releasing bombs sounds too starship enterprisey and impractical. Hope we just have a usable, medium range cruise missile that will become operational in 2-4 years max and not another 20 yr black hole project. Fingers crossed and good luck to DRDO.
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V1 on steroids?
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I wonder what those 3 huge "rooms" on the nirbhay TEL are for. seems like quite a lot for a GLCM launcher.
the missile themselves look of huge size and length and likely sized for naval VL tubes ... could be 25" diameter and not 21" and be more than 18feet in length.
the middle one seems like a proper room with the launching controls and seen in brahmos TEL as well which has two "rooms" not three.
here is the old tomahawk launcher - very similar to our layout
http://www.atomicexpress.net/wp-content ... glcm_5.jpg
cheen long sword appears to be a more compact system with just 8 wheels and no semi-trailer ... the two front axles are likely steerable
http://www.chinamilitary.net/wp-content ... -sword.jpg
the missile themselves look of huge size and length and likely sized for naval VL tubes ... could be 25" diameter and not 21" and be more than 18feet in length.
the middle one seems like a proper room with the launching controls and seen in brahmos TEL as well which has two "rooms" not three.
here is the old tomahawk launcher - very similar to our layout
http://www.atomicexpress.net/wp-content ... glcm_5.jpg
cheen long sword appears to be a more compact system with just 8 wheels and no semi-trailer ... the two front axles are likely steerable
http://www.chinamilitary.net/wp-content ... -sword.jpg
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The dimensions of the Nirbhay are available on the previous page in a post by Indranil Roy which contains a line drawing of the Nirbhay (Clicky). The diameter is not 25 inches and the length is greater than 18 feet.Singha wrote:... could be 25" diameter and not 21" and be more than 18feet in length.
As that line drawing of the Nirbhay has been extracted from a DRDO tender it also has the ring of authenticity.
As an aside, no propfan in evidence.
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Flash news from Taramak... Nirbhay countdown begins
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... tdown.html
Missile launch @ 11:30 AM IST... all the best DRDO...
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... tdown.html
Missile launch @ 11:30 AM IST... all the best DRDO...
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Just compared physical parameters of Tomahawk and Nirbhay which are on very similar lines, so simple logic says Nirbhay on a mission 1000 KM away will do the job and will be able to return home even if it used its loitering feature. Sounds good isn't it...
Experts easily look beyond the punch lines, they must be knowing it can do missions 2000 to 2500 KM away if it need not come back home.
Waiting for the sweet news of success with fingers crossed.
Question though
If they are using Nirbhay for full range of 1000 KM (and as a fact its just a test) they must not be wasting its body they will be calling it back home, Gurus please shed some light.......
If answer is affirmative then the whole test should last for not less than 3 hrs, it will be a good test of all guidance systems, communication links and various other subsystems.
Eagerly waiting to hear news of "Success"
Jai Hind
Experts easily look beyond the punch lines, they must be knowing it can do missions 2000 to 2500 KM away if it need not come back home.
Waiting for the sweet news of success with fingers crossed.
Question though
If they are using Nirbhay for full range of 1000 KM (and as a fact its just a test) they must not be wasting its body they will be calling it back home, Gurus please shed some light.......
If answer is affirmative then the whole test should last for not less than 3 hrs, it will be a good test of all guidance systems, communication links and various other subsystems.
Eagerly waiting to hear news of "Success"
Jai Hind
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its Hind....
less than 5 mins
less than 5 mins
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launch was at 11:55am...it is on the way finally ..hope all goes well.
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news flash confirming nirbhay was launched successfully..awaiting further details..
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so 12:55 expected hit time
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wow the excruciating wait begins .... nirbhay is like a passenger mail it is slowly on its way to the destination, brahmos is like rajdhani
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so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?
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Someone should upload the launch pics, that would be soothing...
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12:55 , if its 1 hr flight timesameer_shelavale wrote:so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?
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I am waiting for fish fry from the sea(made by nirbhay) for lunch.
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The flight time is a bit more than 1 hour. Hit time will be about 1:10 if tested for 1000km.krishnan wrote:12:55 , if its 1 hr flight timesameer_shelavale wrote:so it shall hit target by 1:15 ?
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Hope we get the launch pis soon..........................
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... nched.html
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... nched.html
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DDM strikes, "successful launch" gets replaced with "successful test fired"
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Just race for first time reported on ... channel.
These channels change the word in a matter of minutes.
Anyway ..they might have gone by conviction like ourselves..that the test is a full success.
These channels change the word in a matter of minutes.
Anyway ..they might have gone by conviction like ourselves..that the test is a full success.
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http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/Breaking on Tarmak007! Nirbhay launched at 11:55 am
Breaking Now!
Nirbhay missile launched from Integrated Test Range (ITR) off the Odisha coast at about 11.55 am.
(Source: My Express colleague Hemant Kumar Rawat from Orissa)
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Tarmak is reporting a failure. The flight of the missile was terminated after 20 minutes.
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oops..mody wrote:Tarmak is reporting a failure. The flight of the missile was terminated after 20 minutes.
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Doesnt say failure...says it was terminated, wonder why when everything was working fine
"All systems onboard the missiles performed perfectly for the first 20 minutes. The radars tracking reported good health till then. But after 20 minutes, the missile drifted away from the path.
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krishnan wrote:Doesnt say failure...says it was terminated, wonder why when everything was working fine
All systems onboard the missiles performed perfectly for the first 20 minutes. The radars tracking reported good health.
Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1
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livefist reports it started veering after 17 mins and was aborted
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Did someone switched off GPS signal again?juvva wrote: Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1
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So all this means .. partial success and a way to never failing weapon from next time.
Come back DRDO, like you did with Agni-3.
Come back DRDO, like you did with Agni-3.
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DRDO Press Release
Launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha
Long range cruise missile Nirbhay launched
Long range cruise missile Nirbhay was successfully launched today at 1150 hrs from launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha, meeting the basic mission objectives successfully. After travelling approximately mid-way, deviations were observed from its intended course. Further, flight was terminated to ensure coastal safety.
Ravi Kumar Gupta
Scientist G & Director
Directorate of Public Interface,
DRDO Hqrs, Room 117, DRDO Bhawan
Launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha
Long range cruise missile Nirbhay launched
Long range cruise missile Nirbhay was successfully launched today at 1150 hrs from launch complex, Chandipur, Odisha, meeting the basic mission objectives successfully. After travelling approximately mid-way, deviations were observed from its intended course. Further, flight was terminated to ensure coastal safety.
Ravi Kumar Gupta
Scientist G & Director
Directorate of Public Interface,
DRDO Hqrs, Room 117, DRDO Bhawan
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Unlikely, I think...more likely failure in mechanicals/hydraulics/control surfaces.....Would be interesting to knowReddy wrote:Did someone switched off GPS signal again?juvva wrote: Apparently because it drifted ofcourse...
http://tarmak007.blogspot.in/2013/03/br ... n.html?m=1
If it was flying level and straight at that time or executing some manouevere.
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I hope the whiners don't have a whining orgy this time around. Failure is just a stepping stone to success. All the same, because of the constantly whining and traitorous glee of the DDM in our failures, sometimes I wish that they just launch a finished product at a media event like they did with Sagarika.
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Any pictures of the missile? The picture would give clue to the exact nature of the missile.
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Times is reporting test a failure and the missile deviated from its path.