Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Apr 2013 00:48

RamaY wrote:Karnataka...

Karnataka 2013: No red carpet for Cong despite Yeddy-BJP war

And read this...
http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=160

PP guy started showing these predictions starting with 120 seats, 140, 160 seats decided and so on out of 224 seats.

The strength of BJP+KJP is growing from 40>60>80 to now 100/180 seats. If these two parties win 12 more out of 44 remaining seats, this combine is back.

I proposed this scenario many months ago/

New prediction came out from PP guy http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=160
Now he gives 60 for BJP, 40 for KJP out of 189. 35 seats dont know

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 23 Apr 2013 05:40

Rahul Gandhi, Narendra Modi stay away from Karnataka elections

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Modi will address only two public meetings in Karnataka, whose capital Bangalore is the hub of India's information technology and biotechnology industries. The Gujarat chief minister was inclined to be much more generous with his time for Karnataka but has had second thoughts since, people aware of the scheduling said.

Rahul Gandhi's schedule in Karnataka is slightly more active, but not by very much. The Congress vice president has backed off from an April 22 meeting in Bellary, the district at the centre of the iron-ore mining scandal that has shaken the country. His mother and Congress president Sonia Gandhi won a Lok Sabha seat in 1999 from Bellary but she gave it up in favour of the Amethi in UP.
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svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 23 Apr 2013 07:04

RamaY wrote:
RamaY wrote:Karnataka...

Karnataka 2013: No red carpet for Cong despite Yeddy-BJP war

And read this...
http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=160

PP guy started showing these predictions starting with 120 seats, 140, 160 seats decided and so on out of 224 seats.

The strength of BJP+KJP is growing from 40>60>80 to now 100/180 seats. If these two parties win 12 more out of 44 remaining seats, this combine is back.

I proposed this scenario many months ago/
New prediction came out from PP guy http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=160
Now he gives 60 for BJP, 40 for KJP out of 189. 35 seats dont know

I talked to the ruling party Lingayat. There is a breakdown in the social leadership which is bothering the electrorates
But finally the local guys will win and not the remote leaders who are not connected to the people

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 23 Apr 2013 07:16

Sushupti wrote:Mulayam fires another salvo, says UPA govt should quit

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 668327.cms

It is possible that before May 20 the govt may quit

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 23 Apr 2013 07:33

negi wrote:
jamwal wrote:If Congress comes to power in Karnatka, then all this Modi wave will be proven just another internet fad.
Karnataka is different; it's in the south zone elections will be won/lost on basis of local issues here. Modi is not coming here and I am glad that he is not cleaning up Yedurappa's potty. BJP deserves to get booted out of here so that if the top command has a sense of direction they better come up with better leadership here. There is actually no difference between BJP and INC in Karnataka.

Social order breakdown is causing lot of confusion. They are in two minds and unable to decide.

It is local issue and nothing against one party or the other. They want good candidates who can handle the situation

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 23 Apr 2013 07:54

Yeddiyurappa said and then disowned in election rallies that Advani was paid huge sums of money to let him stay in power.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Apr 2013 07:58

May 8th is 16days away

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Apr 2013 08:55

Sushupti wrote:Yeddiyurappa said and then disowned in election rallies that Advani was paid huge sums of money to let him stay in power.

Yeddy needs to be more candid and less afraid.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 23 Apr 2013 22:03

It wasn't without reason that PP guy used to call BJP "Broker Joker Party" during D4 days of prominence.

Advani accused of taking money from Yeddyurappa

The senior BJP leader allegedly took money to allow Yeddyurappa to remain in office after corruption scandals

BJP leader L.K. Advani had taken money from erstwhile Karnataka chief minister B.S. Yeddyurappa to allow him to remain in office after corruption scandals involving him surfaced, Yeddyurappa's Karnataka Janata Party (KJP) alleged Monday. The BJP rubbished the allegations.

"I have documents and will release them at the appropriate time," V. Dhananjaya Kumar, a former Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) MP and junior central minister in the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA) government at New Delhi, told reporters here.

Dhananjaya Kumar, the KJP's spokesman, made the claim a day after Advani indirectly attacked Yeddyurappa for tarnishing BJP's image by indulging in corruption.

Advani was here to launch BJP's campaign for the May 5 assembly poll.

"Advani has no moral right to criticize Yeddyurappa as he had used his children to threaten Yeddyurappa and extract money to allow him to remain in office," Dhananjaya Kumar alleged.

He said several central BJP leaders were known to take money from party chief ministers.

BJP president Rajnath Singh and state BJP leaders lashed out at Dhananjaya Kumar for making "baseless" allegation.

Rajnath Singh, who was in Bellary in north Karnataka for election campaign, told reporters that the claims were not worth taking note of.

State BJP chief Pralhad Joshi told reporters in Shimoga, about 280 km from here: "Let him release the documents instead of simply leveling allegations and we want Yeddyurappa to respond."

Chief Minister Jagadish Shettar dismissed the charges as "baseless" while his predecessor D.V. Sadananda Gowda said "if he proves the allegations, we will shut down BJP in Karnataka".

Yeddyurappa, BJP's first chief minister in Karnataka, was forced to quit in July 2011 over mining bribery charges. He left BJP late last year and is heading Karnataka Janata Party.

Ever since he quit the chief minister's post, Yeddyurappa has been saying that he was "a victim of conspiracy by state and central BJP leaders".

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 718_1.html

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 23 Apr 2013 22:10

Is this part of Yeddy-NaMo deal ? or is it as usual trying to smell chanakiannes where there is none

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Apr 2013 22:16

suryag wrote:Is this part of Yeddy-NaMo deal ? or is it as usual trying to smell chanakiannes where there is none

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 23 Apr 2013 23:27

suryag wrote:Is this part of Yeddy-NaMo deal ? or is it as usual trying to smell chanakiannes where there is none

It came from Dhananjay Kumar and then BSY asking D Kumar to shut up. So smoke is there for everyone to see unless one has decides to put his head into his rear for whatever reason; such a his ego invested in the party/personalty etc.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 23 Apr 2013 23:34

kmkraoind wrote:

SRT is going to break many hearts with his uncalled legions (may be Madam has a dossier on him). Anyhow, the occasion is Rajiv Shukla's online news paper (its not a sports news) launch.

Endorsement fee from biggies.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Apr 2013 23:42

Marten wrote:Gents, Game this situation:
Consider a border skirmish or a short "localized conflict" with China where the response is tough. China moves back to pre-issue locations.

The biggest gainer from any patriotic fervor will be Amul baba. It's a stupid CT, but stranger things have been known to happen.

If INC recaptures PoK and Builds Bhavya Ram temple it can get absolute majority on its own.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Apr 2013 08:54

ha ha ha. If Pigs can fly also INC willget its own majority. I wonder why MMS is still aroung with all these allegations flying around. After almost 10 years and the kind of allegations and crimes commiitted under his watch any reasonable honest man will resign and go. What is complusion for MMS to continue at all cost???

Is he under blackmail???

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 24 Apr 2013 16:48

Published on Apr 24, 2013
By Ravish Tiwari
Advani: Will contest LS polls from Gujarat: Indian Express

Yogesh · Post by **Yogesh** » 24 Apr 2013 18:29

Marten wrote:Gents, Game this situation:
Consider a border skirmish or a short "localized conflict" with China where the response is tough. China moves back to pre-issue locations.

The biggest gainer from any patriotic fervor will be Amul baba. It's a stupid CT, but stranger things have been known to happen.

Ditto ..same thought I had this morning on all these news

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 24 Apr 2013 19:36

^^^

But the ccp will be finished. If India wins the fight.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 25 Apr 2013 00:10

^^^^
china does not care about internal dynamics of India.

yes of course expect the DDM to spin it as tougness of MMS and roar of Raol baba.

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 25 Apr 2013 02:35

I think the pandas started this aggression after amul baby showed how clueless he was during the CII speech. His stupid descriptions of the chini way of doing things emboldened them to take this step.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Apr 2013 02:53

Narayana Rao wrote:What is complusion for MMS to continue at all cost???

Is he under blackmail???

miles to go before he sleeps. India hasn't yet signed CTBT, NPT. It is yet to handover all the Nukes to US. It is yet to but F16s etc.

ranjbe · Post by **ranjbe** » 25 Apr 2013 06:07

merlin wrote:UPA and more specifically the Congress will still win handsomely in the urban areas in 2014. People forget the elections in Maharashtra after 26/11 far too easily.

Bad analogy. The Shiv Sena votes split between Raj Thakeray's MNS and original Shiv Sena. Please note that BJP + MNS + SS vote percent has been consistently larger than Congress + NCP in the last 15 years.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Apr 2013 11:03

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/why-s ... -/1107373/

'Why should allies interfere in BJP's choice of PM candidate?'

Unlike the JD(U) which has sought a "secular" prime ministerial candidate, the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) is willing to support whoever the BJP selects.

Speaking at the Express Adda organised in Mumbai on Tuesday, Punjab Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal said, "BJP is the largest party of the NDA and it is their right to decide who the prime ministerial candidate should be. Why should the allies interfere?"

Describing Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as a "very fine man... dynamic and decisive", Badal said, "we have sent our teams to Gujarat a number of times to learn the best practices followed by that state."

However, he said "nobody can replace" former prime minister A B Vajpayee. "I think we need to preserve the qualities of the old leadership. Their commitment to the cause and struggle cannot be found in the current leadership," he said.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Apr 2013 13:53

BJP hits back at Yeddy: 'Why did you disrespect Advani?'
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/karna ... 130425.htm

The Bharatiya Janata Party [ Images ] has hit back at the Karnataka [ Images ] Janatha Party, which recently made some serious allegations against the party’s top leaders, by releasing a list of probing questions.
Click here!

The saffron party has termed the allegations by KJP as a “cheap publicity stunt”.

Here are the questions BJP is asking former party leader and KJP senior leader B S Yeddyurappa [ Images ].

"You swore to wipe out the Janata Dal – Secular after a private complaint was registered against you, for which you blamed JD-S leader H D Kumaraswamy. What happened to that?

Do you remember L K Advani [ Images ] led a protest when the governor had recommended President’s rule in Karnataka? Have you forgotten that and why have you resorted to such cheap publicity against Advani?

Do you remember leading Members of Legislative Assembly to a resort when there was a motion against your aide V S Acharya in the assembly? Why did you show such disrespect?

Which court has given you a clean chit in the illegal mining case? If there is a clean chit, why don’t you release it to the media?

How has Renukacharya become your well wisher today? Wasn’t he the same person who led a dissident movement against you twice? At that time, BJP’s national leaders saved your government.

You have always maintained that you were backstabbed by Kumaraswamy. Today, you say the BJP has backstabbed you. Why are there no statements against Kumaraswamy today?

Do you remember that you wanted to quit the party and join a Congress-JD-S coalition in 2005?"

KJP leader Dhananjay Kumar had alleged that Advani and other senior leaders had received funds from Yeddyurappa.

Kumar has said that he will provide proof to corroborate his claims when the time is right.

Meanwhile, Yeddyurappa has apologised to Advani for the statement and said that he has already spoken to the KJP leader who had made the allegations.

“I have no problems with Advani,” Yeddyurappa told media personnel.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Apr 2013 15:39

^^^
From the above article if one reads between the lines, Yeddi will be back in BJP and that may not take that long.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 25 Apr 2013 15:47

Sorry if this has been posted before(please delete), but Indians overseas can also make their vote count.

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/nri.aspx

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Apr 2013 18:55

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/jdss-kumaras ... 2-129.html

JDS's Kumaraswamy most preferred K'taka CM candidate: Survey

New Delhi: A CNN-IBN-The Week pre-poll survey has revealed that Janata Dal (Secular) president and former Chief Minsiter HD Kumaraswamy is the most preferred CM candidate, with 18 per cent people voting in favour of him.

While ex-BJP strongman BS Yeddyurappa came a close second, garnering 10 per cent votes, present Chief Minister Jagadish Shettar came last, with 6 per cent votes.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 25 Apr 2013 18:59

^^ this is IBN, but still if we believe this Poll, then on what basis BJP-Karnataka has gone with Shettar if he has no people support on ground.
BJP need to get it's act together, else the only South state where they have some base will slip away.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Apr 2013 21:13

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:^^ this is IBN, but still if we believe this Poll, then on what basis BJP-Karnataka has gone with Shettar if he has no people support on ground.
BJP need to get it's act together, else the only South state where they have some base will slip away.

Wait and watch Saar.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Apr 2013 21:27

krisna wrote:^^^^
china does not care about internal dynamics of India.

yes of course expect the DDM to spin it as tougness of MMS and roar of Raol baba.

Plus madam Maino can retire, or for even more piskology even die like chacha Jawahar, after undermining moral of armed forces for a decade at the expense of defense personnel and moral. Italian beehive effect at cost of national security?

Of course pukis attacked too in 1965 but who could think that India was ill prepared against China earlier because of lack of political foresight?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 25 Apr 2013 22:15

Sanku wrote:BJP hits back at Yeddy: 'Why did you disrespect Advani?'
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/karna ... 130425.htm

Here are the questions BJP is asking former party leader and KJP senior leader B S Yeddyurappa [ Images ].

interestingly they have not denied that Advani's people took money from Yeddy.

“I have no problems with Advani,” Yeddyurappa told media personnel.

Yeddy has also not said that what his man alleged was false. But Yeddy seems scared to tell everything.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Apr 2013 09:38

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Apr 2013 11:23

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130426.htm

Pre-poll survey: Cong likely to DEMOLISH BJP in K'taka

The pre-poll conducted by CSDS for CNN-IBN shows that the Congress party is set to improve its position in the upcoming Karnataka assembly elections and the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party will likely suffer major losses.

In the 224-member assembly, the Congress is set to get estimated 117-129 seats while the BJP may get only 39-49 seats.

The Janata Dal-Secular is likely to get 34-44 seats.

Former Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa's newly-launched Karnataka Janata Paksha and independents together may end up with only 14-22 seats.

The survey was conducted by CSDS between 10-17 April in 75 assembly constituencies of Karnataka covering 294 polling stations.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 26 Apr 2013 13:39

^ The fake pollsters of CSDS/CNN-IBN just rehashed their 2008 survey numbers.

Recap from 2008.

Cong clear leader in race for Karnataka Assembly

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cong-clear-l ... 195-3.html

CNN-IBN | Updated Apr 30, 2008

The poll conducted in the state during April 2008 reports the current mood of the electorate indicates Congress winning 114 seats in the 224-seat Assembly, giving the party a slender, but clear majority. This means a gain of 49 seats for the Congress over the last elections held in 2004.

The poll also suggests losses for the BJP, which is projected to win 60 seats, a decline of 19 seats over the last elections. The situation for Janata Dal (S) doesn’t seem any better with the party projected to win 37 seats, a decline of 21 seats.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Apr 2013 14:26

Every one seems agree BJP will lose Karnataka and INC will win. So the result may not be seriously in doubt. Yaddi is a difficult person and once he has "prove' his "value" by causing maximum damage to BJP he may try to come back to BJP. Central BJP should have delt with Yaddi better. When you have done well with Gadkari there is no reason to let Yaddi go. NOthing prevented BJP from accomidating Yaddi somewhere else in the party position. Even giving him some state level resposibilities, get him to Delhi etc. See to the his ego is satisfied. Had they done that today they could have won Karnataka.

Nagam Janardhana Reddy an independent MLA who left TDP during Telangana agitation now joining BJP. He was ex-ABVP activist and was in TDP for a long time. Some of the INC and TDP MPs and MLAs are leaving INC and joining TRS in Telangana and this joining of BJP is the first one. earlier Warangal leaders of TDP also asked CBN to join with BJP in the next elections. But CBN is not saying anything. Till resently he was singing 3rd front songs. But with CPI planing to join poll pack with Jagan criminal gang and BJP having capacility to add workers and votes to TDP he may reconsider. Muslim leadership may be purchased to Jagan and Cristhan EJs are already with him. So CBN is not going to lose anything by joining with BJP. Even if AP CM post is not won he may get some good position in Delhi if NDA forms next goverment at Delhi.

Hope CBN gets good thoughts

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Apr 2013 16:58

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nitis ... a/1108036/

NDA alliance strong, says Nitish Kumar

Seeking to put a full stop on speculations if ties between JD(U) and BJP were under strain after recent bickering, Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar today said the alliance was working well and will continue to do so in future.

"We work together in coordination and mutual agreement," Kumar told reporters after filing of nominations by two JD(U) and one BJP candidates for the three seats of Bihar Legislative Council.

"Seat-sharing agreement among partners for the Council elections has strengthened the alliance and we will work together for the welfare of people of Bihar in future too," Kumar, flanked by Deputy Chief Minister Sushil Kumar Modi, said.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Apr 2013 17:53

^^^

So why is Nitish now singing this song. Everyday his song changes.

So JD(U) gets to contest in two seats, and BJP gets one! Hmmmh!

So has he now done his maths and concluded that Modi would eat up his whole house of EBCs and Mahadalits? Is he afraid, that his own legislators would split the party and make the government with BJP dumping him? Or is he afraid that as the date approaches after the Karnataka polls when BJP may make Modi their PM candidate, they would have to go and so is not trying to swim back?

Basically he is not to be trusted. BJP should take contingency measures.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 26 Apr 2013 18:21

Set aside ego and bring back 'elder brother' Yeddyurappa , Uma Bharti tells BJP

BJP Vice-President Uma Bharti today favoured bringing former Karnataka Chief Minister BS Yeddyurappa back into the party fold by "setting aside ego".

The firebrand leader said those "at the helm of affairs" should take the initiative as "we should toe the line that 'the country first, individuals second'. Ego has to be set aside".

Asked if she would take the initiative to bring Yeddyurappa back into the party fold, the former Madhya Pradesh chief minister said she was not a senior leader and does not consider herself eligible for the task.

"Those who are at the helm of affairs... they should do it," said Bharti, who was in the city for campaigning for party candidates of the May 5 Assembly elections.

Describing Yeddyurappa, who quit BJP late last year and formed a regional party Karnataka Janatha Paksha, as a "swayamsevak" who had been a dedicated BJP worker, Bharti said she had been attached to the former Karnataka chief minister. "He is like my elder brother."

"... and the message is that right now, our country is facing a crisis, the crisis in many forms, like never before. So, we all have to be together," she said favouring Yeddyurappa's return, adding, the BJP should not make any attempts to weaken the party.

Asked if BJP electoral prospects are better with or without Yeddyurappa, she said it's very difficult to say, but added that BJP is a cadre-based party.

Recalling that she was out of BJP for about five years, Bharti said she has realised that fighting the BJP only harmed "national interests", adding, she is sure others who had left BJP felt exactly the same way.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 Apr 2013 19:23

RajeshA wrote:^^^

So why is Nitish now singing this song. Everyday his song changes.

So JD(U) gets to contest in two seats, and BJP gets one! Hmmmh!

So has he now done his maths and concluded that Modi would eat up his whole house of EBCs and Mahadalits? Is he afraid, that his own legislators would split the party and make the government with BJP dumping him? Or is he afraid that as the date approaches after the Karnataka polls when BJP may make Modi their PM candidate, they would have to go and so is not trying to swim back?

Basically he is not to be trusted. BJP should take contingency measures.

usko phati hui hai. His own party will be split and he will become nanga in no time and that sword is there on the neck. This whole thing is about number of seats and not about Modi. Also link this to another Badal's statement of who the BJP's PM candidate is BJP's problem and not its allies.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Apr 2013 03:04

Poll plans go awry for Karnataka satraps

By Vanu Dev in Bangalore

THEY had taken a vow to “ decimate” the BJP in the Karnataka assembly elections. But the plans of former chief minister B. S. Yeddyurappa and former state minister B. Sriramulu have gone awry.

Both leaders, who left the BJP alleging they were backstabbed and launched their own political parties, are staring at defeat.

While Yeddyurappa was forced to step down from the CM’s chair following his alleged involvement in the ` 16 crore mining scam, Sriramulu exited from the party because his once- upon- a- time ‘ Godmother’ Sushma Swaraj “ abandoned him”. Yeddyurappa’s Karnataka Janata Paksha ( KJP) is suffering because of a dearth of strong leaders, while Sriramulu’s BSR Congress is struggling to find candidates to contest the polls.

For Yeddyurappa, other than former ministers Shobha Karandlaje and M. P. Renukacharya, the support from his erstwhile followers has also eroded. As many as 14 ministers stood by him when he was ousted from the CM’s chair. Twelve of them, however, later stayed back with the BJP damaging Yeddyurappa’s poll prospects.

The KJP has fielded candidates from over 200 seats out of 224 constituencies. The former CM was aiming to capture at least 35 seats, but that would remain a dream for him now.

“ Yeddyurappa, Shobha and Renukacharya might be reelected, but there is no other leader with a mass support.

Consequently, the KJP is trying other tricks like accusing senior BJP leaders of indulging in corruption,” political historian Dr. A. Veerappa said.

The fate of Sriramulu, who was asked by the mining baron Reddys Brothers to float the BSR Congress, too is no different. In the last two days, 10 candidates of his party have withdrawn from the fray or declared support for other parties because they felt “ abandoned”. The BJP seems to be relieved with the competition from the KJP and BSR Congress fizzling out. BJP leader Sushma Swaraj, who is campaigning in Bangalore, termed the competition from the two parties as “ inconsequential”.

http://epaper.mailtoday.in/showtext.asp ... te=2742013