Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 24 Jul 2013 00:56

Yet BRFites like Pranav will worship him. Kujli onlee.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 26 Jul 2013 14:46

meantime Bayram khan, after a good meal of nihari and biryani eats his feet as well....been polishing some pearls lately he has.

firstport.com

Digvijaya Singh just can’t get it right now, can he? In the latest gaffe, the Congress General Secretary praised fellow party Secretary Meenakshi Natrajan at a rally in Madhya Pradesh by calling her ‘a 100 percent tunch maal’ .

Translated from Bhojpuri, the remark roughly means ’100 percent sexy woman’.

Headlines Today reported, the Congress leader chose to ‘praise’ Natarajan by first pointing out that she was hard-working, a social worker, Gandhian, honest and ended by calling her 100 percent tunch maal.

Singh also said that he knew this because ‘main purana johari hoon‘ (am an experienced jeweller) to cheers from his audience.

Natarajan chose not to react to the remark and refused to comment on it.

The remark has sparked controversy given how inappropriate, sexist, and deeply offensive it is.

Singh’s remark highlights the sexist attitude that is prevalent among Indian male politicians where even praise for their female counterparts seems impossible without objectifying them as Singh has done.

By referring to a ‘hard-working’ party member as a ‘maal‘, Singh has highlighted that women in Indian politics shall forever be seen in stereotypical roles: either a maal, a maa (mother) or a behen (sister).

Singh also recently courted controversy by sticking to his comments that the Batla House encounter was fake, despite a court verdict convicting one person for the murder of a Delhi police official.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Jul 2013 16:27

Singha wrote:meantime Bayram khan, after a good meal of nihari and biryani eats his feet as well....been polishing some pearls lately he has.

firstport.com

By referring to a ‘hard-working’ party member as a ‘maal‘, Singh has highlighted that women in Indian politics shall forever be seen in stereotypical roles: either a maal, a maa (mother) or a behen (sister).

The last part is an real underhanded attempt to make this a case of equal equal with NaMo's language by the reporter .

Guess this feminist type doesnt want to differentiate between "praising" a low profile party MP "tunch maall" while at the same time calling oneself "an experienced jeweller" is pathetically sexist and outright disrespectful, Addressing a woman as behen or mata is a traditional mark of showing one's respect to a woman in our society.
If the reporter thinks even this "stereotypes" a woman He/She can start addressing every woman as Catwoman or Wonderwoman or Monadarling or what ever he/she thinks to be "non stereotypical" and show us what should be "proper" way to address a woman in public life.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 Jul 2013 16:36

Dont bother arguing about it, she herself has no issues about it

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 27 Jul 2013 05:20

krishnan wrote:Dont bother arguing about it, she herself has no issues about it

diggy is 400% sickular hence kosher.

If from non congis it would be tantamount to murder.

Isnt this lady who said that NaMO should have said saree of secularism and not burkha od secularism.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 27 Jul 2013 11:23

Would it be Chandigarh v/s Har-Pun all over again in Telgu-Land ?

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jul 2013 14:31

14:45 Insiders say that it was not a wise idea to call Congress MPs, MLAs and Union ministers to New Delhi while the panchayat polls were underway in the Andhra and Rayalaseema regions, and that too for discussion on Telangana. The party is expected to suffer a defeat in the Andhra panchayat polls at the hands of Jaganmohan Reddy's YSR Congress.
14:42 Leaders from Andhra Pradesh have been demanding during their interaction with Digvijay Singh that they want Ghulam Nabi Azad back as AICC's political observer for the state. They have been complaining that Digvijay has a "foot-in-mouth" syndrome.
14:38 Union ministers K S Rao, Pallam Raju, D Purandeswari, Chiranjeevi warned that they would submit their resignations if Telangana was announced, reports our correspondent from New Delhi.
14:35 The All India Congress Committee is facing several threats from those who are against the formation of Telangana. Once statehood is announced there is a likelihood that the government in Andhra Pradesh will be toppled, say anti-Telangana supporters. Moreover, with the Congress facing internal threats in Kerala, they will only be strong in Karnataka (as far as south India goes) just before next years polls.
14:30 An insider gives an account of what transpired at meet on Telangana: 18 Congress MPs from Andhra Pradesh threatened that they would not let the Food Security Bill be passed in the Parliament. Hence, the announcement on Telangana has been temporarily suspended, reports our correspondent.
14:26 Postpone decision on Telangana till after Lok Sabha polls: Chiranjeevi to Sonia : Please postpone the decision on Telangana till Lok Sabha polls are held in 2014, Tourism Minister K Chiranjeevi is said to have suggested to Congress President Sonia Gandhi.
14:19 Telangana MPs, MLAs give Congress August 15 ultimatum: Sources tell our correspondent from New Delhi that Telangana Congress MPs, MLAs told Rahul Gandhi on Wednesday that if a formal announcement on Telangana is not made on August 15 from the Red Fort by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh the entire Telangana region will come to a stop. There will be a strike and buses and trains will not ply. No traffic will move into Hyderabad. By early September the people of Telangana will march towards Hyderabad. "Let the police fire on us, let there be curfew in entire Telangana," they told Rahul.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Jul 2013 15:12

Fear of Jagan Criminal gang is forcing INC leaders of non Telangana areas. But what is the fear for INC leaders of Telangana???. They should be happy that in Telangana rural areas INC did quite well and TRS is no where except in two districts. TDP is also not a serious threat in T area as of now.

What is the role of Naxals in entire Telangana areas? Most of the leadership is from this area and now driven out of AP. Is there any tacit understanding to allow INC win T area and free run in Chatisgarh (BJP ruled state) with safe heavens in AP??? Is killing of Mahendra Karma facilitated by INC EJs (Jogi gang) for this purpose only??? Presence of senior over ground Naxals in NAC and in Planing commission can not be ignored here.

Naxal support to INC in the next Chatisgarh and T areas most likely in the cards.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 27 Jul 2013 15:18

DNA reported yesterday that the state will be called Hyderabad state not Telangana. Secularism zindabad!

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 27 Jul 2013 15:33

15:29 Andhra Cong ministers to Sonia: Will quit if state is split : Senior ministers from Andhra Pradesh writing a letter to party president Sonia Gandhi threatening to resign if the state is split. The leaders also met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Jul 2013 17:36

In several hundred pages of Telangana thread we have discussed. It may look foolish for not AP ites but the sentiment against division is as huge as the sentiment for division. Both sides go to work and laugh over the matter but no one wants to budge. This division not like making a Uttarakhand, Chattisgargh or a Jharkhand. For most of the people this is a hilarious thing as people will think "small states", "good admin" "what's the big deal".

Naming it as Hyderabad state is not going to go well. It will be called as Telangana state. It will have violent resistance. This time the resistance will come from leaders who are very rich and movers and shakers on the other side. They can bring down the central government too. The threat of not allowing food-security-bill is real.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jul 2013 18:11

^^ maybe, just maybe, the INC has overplayed its hand and is coming through as too clever by half. Only.

The Hyd state thing is a strict no-no. Won;t happen, its just an opening gambit, retreating from which to a more reasonable position will be spun as a major concession on the INC's part, am sure.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Jul 2013 18:15

VikasRaina wrote:Would it be Chandigarh v/s Har-Pun all over again in Telgu-Land ?

It will a situation of Haryana-Punjab-HP situation for AP. A tri-state is best solution in case of a division Vs no division at all. Just separation of Telangana is only invitation of more trouble.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jul 2013 22:27

Another thing being considered is separate Tirupati from Chittor and thus Rayalseema.

So I said why not give it back to TN as most of the pilgrims are from TN and Karnataka!

Its a plant to foster EJism.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 28 Jul 2013 00:50

Muppalla wrote:In several hundred pages of Telangana thread we have discussed. It may look foolish for not AP ites but the sentiment against division is as huge as the sentiment for division. Both sides go to work and laugh over the matter but no one wants to budge. This division not like making a Uttarakhand, Chattisgargh or a Jharkhand. For most of the people this is a hilarious thing as people will think "small states", "good admin" "what's the big deal".

Naming it as Hyderabad state is not going to go well. It will be called as Telangana state. It will have violent resistance. This time the resistance will come from leaders who are very rich and movers and shakers on the other side. They can bring down the central government too. The threat of not allowing food-security-bill is real.

Rayala Telangana (RT)/Hyderabad state is much more sinister than Telangana. Kurnool going to RT means Krishna river is also not in control of Coastal and Rayala Seema. Water release will be at the mercy of T after at the mercy of Karnataka/Maharastra.

Center wants to control remaining Andhra state with Hyderabad (financial control) and water (resource control). With Hyderabad being under Central control means all the investments and effort will be devoured by Center also. It points to some deep hatred they have with Coastal and Rayalaseema folks.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jul 2013 01:00

Has Kiran Kumar Reddy submitted resignation?

Stating that he would not be able to oversee the process of the division of the state as decided upon by the Congress high command, chief minister Kiran Kumar Reddy is believed to have submitted his resignation to party president Sonia Gandhi. The resignation letter was handed over to Sonia at her 10 Janpath residence around 5 pm on Friday, highly-placed sources privy to the development said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 409780.cms

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 28 Jul 2013 01:45

Had a talk with my friend who is from AP--he is from his neighbouring constituency.
KRK family has amassed fortune. His brother in a short while has accumulated lot of money properties etc.
KRK knows he is a stop gap cm till elections. he has been holding fort well despite threats to his leadeership.
He wont be a cm once he is toppled or removed by HC. he is not ysr in corruption or in rowdyism.

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he is against division- wants a united AP.

Overall a better politican compared to the ones like ysr from congi stable.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jul 2013 01:53

Whether UPA or NDA comes to power Andhra Pradesh will get divided. Only how much is the question?

Will a future T leadership accept a T state without further split of Rayalseema now that INC has whetted their expectations? They were asking for only T region and are getting two more for free from INC!!!

How will Raylaseema folks take the gratuitous division?
How will the T folks think of Hyderabad as Union Territory for INC to loot?
Is that what they wanted?
Will NDA announce only T region as the new state?

Will Tirupati get divided from Chitoor?
Lots of questions for AP folks.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 01:59

Why would tirupati be divided? A state 's division is possible but reorganization with something else is not possible. We have only seen agitation of T . The R revolt will lead to too many assassinations and violence.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 28 Jul 2013 02:02

ramana wrote:So I said why not give it back to TN as most of the pilgrims are from TN and Karnataka!

I don't think they want to be part of TN. Long time back at the first division areas Madras state included the Nangala/satyveedu hills and extended all the way to Sullurpeta IIRC. The border was within sight of Tirupati town, but not the hills. A chunk of Pulicat lake too was part of what would become TN. After a lot of argument back and forth these areas went to AP and TN got Tirutani Sholingur & even Arakonam IIRC back in exchange. For some reason my memory tells me Katpadi too but that can not be right. So unlikely. chitoor is possibly the only exception. Even back then there was a big fight as chittor is/was largely Tamil speaking, and old school tamil too, but is surrounded by Telugu speaking rural areas. What Andhra really coveted was Madras it self. Tamils were a minority in Chennai back then and Telugu speakers were 25%-30% of Chennai. Rajaji fortunately played some politics and snagged Chennai for TN. IF Madras had gone to Andhra, The Capital of TN would probably have become Madurai or Tiruchi, and Chennai would probably have become the capital of a Rayalaseema/Nellore based state by now. It should be pointed out that Kurnool/Cuddapah used to be the capital of Andhra, IMHO should have stayed the capital. Kurnool land owners were shafted. Land owners in Madurai and Tiruchi would have been sumptuously rewarded and Madras would have been much much smaller.

Why this unraveling of Andhra? seems to be a fight over water. Telangana is very high but surrounded by rivers in low valleys. How can they possible get the water up there and stay productive?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2013 02:06

T-state is a reality.

On one hand we (whoever that is) need INC to lose in 2014 so want AP to defeat INC. We cannot commit to sacrifice India for the sake of protecting AP.

INC is trying to maximize its benefits and minimize losses by doing what it is doing with different formulations.

The long term interests of AP (on both sides) lie with benefits of India, so naturally the destruction of Congress.

So the best strategy is to work for an outcome that will be seen as a 'lose-lose' scenario by both groups of Andhras. Hyderabad is that Mohini, IMHO. Give it to Congress so they will do a Bhasmasura.

I hope mandhara gets to ears of Kaikeyi.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2013 02:17

Theo_Fidel wrote: Why this unraveling of Andhra? seems to be a fight over water. Telangana is very high but surrounded by rivers in low valleys. How can they possible get the water up there and stay productive?

Lack of logic and playing with emotions. Relatively the economic progress benefited T-state as much as, if not more, other areas. But the past inequalities cannot be solved in a decade or two especially given the mind set and lack of access intellectual property especially in Agri-sector.

I know of many Andhra farmers who migrated to t-area and do better than locals in production. The main differentiators are access to capital and farming IPR, which t-farmers lack. A 1 acre Agri land in Andhra will get you 3-5 acres in T area and some cash for investment. Somehow the past and present govts missed this.

Instead of asking/giving 1-1.5 Lakh crore (the number doing rounds) package for this party or that party, if they established that as a Agri/business loan fund for only T-farmers in addition to building some renewable lift-irrigation projects would have removed this resentment.

Anyways, now it is too late for anything. My sources say the Andhra people are hoping to get a good package (above said amount) and the economic activity/progress that will bring.

To avoid future inequalities, I hope they will setup Andhra capital in Rayala seema - border to coastal Andhra and also develop Vizag as a ITES hub (they started it but some how lost the momentum).

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 28 Jul 2013 02:17

ramana wrote:Another thing being considered is separate Tirupati from Chittor and thus Rayalseema.

So I said why not give it back to TN as most of the pilgrims are from TN and Karnataka!

Its a plant to foster EJism.

Except for some Iyengars, Tirupati is Telugu town. In terms of pilgrims, Telugus make up bulk of visitors compared to any other states.
I don't see any logic in this.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jul 2013 03:58

Interesting reactions from the country:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/after ... /1147720/0

Two years ago most of those who might be impacted were allies on INC. Now they are unleashing a firestorm in those states to survive.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Jul 2013 05:32

1. Rayala Telangana means the road to keeping the Ashraf-power alive in that region. Also keeps the possibility of M-EJ collaboration open.

2. actually, dividing Rayalaseema is crucial for keeping the water wars from breaking out. the Reddys of that region will become a crucial node between the 2 sides. ShyamSP has pointed out that this division of Rayalaseema is prompted by "hatred of coastals". but let's get out of rhetoric and see what it really means. it is a hedge by INC to keep both sides from gaining too much power. keep them balanced so that neither side gets any "crazy" ideas. in one stroke, this neutralizes the Telangana hotheads who might be thinking about overplaying their hand. it keeps them in check.

3. we might not realize this right now, but this bifurcation makes both sides heavily dependent on INC. it is practically guaranteed that any alternative power will have no chance of taking AP now. even after this division, the expected beating of INC at the elections might not happen. in fact, they might gain the kind of staying power that will surprise many, simply because they will place themselves in the position to be intermediaries between the 2 sides.

4. contrary to the public protestations, there will be elites on the coastal side who will be eager to jump into the new role. whoever proves to be most eager, ready, and willing to play the role of intermediary will be rewarded richly. the same is the case for Rayala-Telangana/Hyd. on both sides, the existing elites will throw up candidates who will fill this role, and nothing major will change on that front. we would be foolish to believe that one set of elites of either region will be hurt by this move. they will not. particularly on the coastal side, this might be regarded as a "boon" by many. even if they don't say it out loud. the feeling that the Deccan portion is nothing but a rump region which is "taken care by M's and Naxalites" is widely prevalent among the coastal elites. the profit sharing and agreements of the business/trade networks will not be hurt by this.

5. we should not be surprised if 5 years down the road, this becomes easily "accepted" as a boon.
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all this is assuming that the news is true.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 06:16

^^^
I will take a friendly bet with anyone who is willing - This entire AP episode of manufactured crisis is a basmasura episode of INC. The exit of INC from all future state of AP is imminent and in turn INC will exit from India. The current surveys, leaders may point a disappointing picture but the final result will be an exit of INC from AP and India.

Let us see how AP unwinds in its finality.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Jul 2013 06:29

^^I hope you are right, muppalla garu. Sadly, I fear devesh is closer tot he truth here.

INC is manouvering to be in a position wherein neither side (kosta or RT) can afford to grow bold and cast INC away as the INC in the other part will conspire to screw the bold part only.

Neat. first FUD your way to a MAD scenario. Predates Cold war logic and harks back all the way to the Brit era's "divide and rule forever" only. It took a WWII to drive the brits away reluctantly, wonder what it'll take to drive INC away permanently though...

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Jul 2013 07:03

^^^
Hari garu, it shows us where the real roots of INC thinking lays. it shows where they've learned their lessons from, perhaps even now continuously receiving inputs from.

naming it "Hyderabad" is an ominous sign. a slap on the face of the Hindu collaborators in AP who thought they could "manage" the Islamics to their favor. if this happens, effectively, Op-Polo is neutralized within 65 years.

it shows the Hindu elites what a blunder it is to keep the Mullahs and their imperial dreamers alive, in the hopes of "taking care" of other Hindus who they don't like or perceive as a hindrance to their own power-sharing.

but we should not forget who the real victors of this move are: the proselytizing religions, and the ever-vacillating/hedging-between-sides Hindu elites on both sides of this divide. Those 3 groups are the winners. the Hindu hothead commoners on both sides have proven mere pawns in the larger game. used and thrown away. I am disgusted.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2013 07:12

Devesh garu, AG is a nut case and that thinking has very little org support on the ground. I recommend you don't think that is a gross-root/elite perspective. If what he said is even 5% right, then his group wouldn't be in the position they are today. So take that point with a bucket of salt.

Muppala Gary's point is also possible. Especially if CBN plays his cards properly. If we look in AP now, any congress leaders who will win in 2014 elections are winning because of their networks and money power. There is not even 5% value addition from INC high command. The UPA2 schemes at best negate the failures of UPA. So what is the incentive for these strong neo-feudals to stick to INC when the whole country is disgusted with INC?

On the other hand AP has the history of supporting INC when the whole world spits on it. So there is a possibility for INC to survive this chaos.

It all depends on how CBN, KCR and the coastal congress powers think. If they come together and form a new new network, they can destroy congress for good.

P.S: our model predicted YSRCP and MIM joining hands in this episode. I am looking forward to it.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 07:17

RamaY wrote:Devesh garu, AG is a nut case and that thinking has very little org support on the ground. I recommend you don't think that is a gross-root/elite perspective. If what he said is even 5% right, then his group wouldn't be in the position they are today. So take that point with a bucket of salt.

+100. There is a huge (really huge) common population who are neither belonging to this so called elites or EJs or conspirators on the coastal side.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 28 Jul 2013 07:26

ShyamSP wrote:
ramana wrote:Another thing being considered is separate Tirupati from Chittor and thus Rayalseema.

So I said why not give it back to TN as most of the pilgrims are from TN and Karnataka!

Its a plant to foster EJism.
Except for some Iyengars, Tirupati is Telugu town. In terms of pilgrims, Telugus make up bulk of visitors compared to any other states.
I don't see any logic in this.

Though in ancient literature the lands of tamil goes up to "Thiru Vengadam"; only some Iyengars value Tirupati. Between the U and V types, there is hierarchy. For some Srirangam and Kanchi rank higher than Tirupati. It is all Maya onlee. It used to be a border town

If one sees so many Telugus in Madras these days, it is reasonable to assume there were Tamils, in larger numbers, earlier.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 28 Jul 2013 07:36

If the state has to be divided, Hyderabad should not be split. It has to go with one state, and there is just one logical way it can go.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 07:37

Hari Seldon wrote:^^I hope you are right, muppalla garu. Sadly, I fear devesh is closer tot he truth here.

INC is manouvering to be in a position wherein neither side (kosta or RT) can afford to grow bold and cast INC away as the INC in the other part will conspire to screw the bold part only.

Neat. first FUD your way to a MAD scenario. Predates Cold war logic and harks back all the way to the Brit era's "divide and rule forever" only. It took a WWII to drive the brits away reluctantly, wonder what it'll take to drive INC away permanently though...

Let us see. I have never seen such a max level exploitation of divide and rule. This is not going to continue for ever as far as my knowledge goes. It has a limitation as everything does have an end. This is truly a basmasura repeat by INC as far as I can see. The panchayat polls which are real grassroot ones are a pointer. Drama baazi based stuff is never permanent.

Here is my take - Even after making a raw snap count of INC, it is not going to cross 130 even with TRS merger and separation of T taken into consideration. If you read the Sunday Gaurdian article, congress is looking for a soft landing and is really in search of a IK Gujral type government in 2014. Even after fudging too much, the CNN-IBN and the darlings like Hindu are giving BJP at 175.

As I said earlier, AP is a collateral that India has put in its future destiny but I do think giving away T will unravel such a situation like Manda-Kamandal level of INC exit.

once T is given there is no INC in non-T areas. Jagan's assent doesn't look promising based on grass root results. (the entire reason of Diggy Raja's involvement was to bring Jagan back in the fold). TDP did exceptionally well. All that INC is hoping is not easy. It has won based on individuals and no individual will be there on its side after separation. The vengeance is something we haven't seen in a generation. All this EJ, M and other bs is out of the door. It is a pure regional vengeance that is above caste and creed which will emerge.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 07:40

RamaY wrote:Muppala Gary's point is also possible. Especially if CBN plays his cards properly. If we look in AP now, any congress leaders who will win in 2014 elections are winning because of their networks and money power. There is not even 5% value addition from INC high command. The UPA2 schemes at best negate the failures of UPA. So what is the incentive for these strong neo-feudals to stick to INC when the whole country is disgusted with INC?

Just mark this sentence and keep watching. This is exactly what is going to unravel.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Jul 2013 07:56

RamaY garu, let me just say that there is at least one poster here who has said the same just recently. I'll rest my case at that.

there are at least 2 crucial links in the tyrannical chain that allowed the Ashrafis to hold their dominion in the region, which are now gone.

joining the 2 districts in Seema is partially a corrective measure to assuage the Ashraf class. but is it enough? they are rushing madly to reclaim their fantasized old glory. things are different this time. best scenario for India is if they show their hand prematurely. they must drop their masks there.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2013 08:05

Devesh garu,

Only one AP leader who gave support the Ashraf group is YSR. And he is dead. If your remember AG was talking about the alliance between his nut-kind and YSR groups and utility of Ms. That network is dead now for all practical purposes. Even at its highs that group was only useful to start communal riots and protect jihadi sleeper cells and was never strong enough to create/control an election campaign leave alone gross-roots campaign.

JMHT

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Jul 2013 08:06

devesh wrote: joining the 2 districts in Seema is partially a corrective measure to assuage the Ashraf class. but is it enough? they are rushing madly to reclaim their fantasized old glory. things are different this time. best scenario for India is if they show their hand prematurely. they must drop their masks there.

What way Anantpur and Kurnool districts will assuage Ashraf class? I am really confused when MIM proposed this Rayala-T proposition. Within no time they will start discrimination bogey by T-politics after this imaginary state is formed. I really don't understand logic behind this other than a strawman that is unacceptable to everyone. Even the Muslim community in these districts is hardly any Ashraf and an insignificant too.

The simple thing is to take few steps back and find a way to stay together and if there is no rapprochement just get to brass-tacks and divide on the coast/T/R borderlines. The only change I can see if acceptable is to add Nellore and Prakasam to R state. Division means trifurcation.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2013 08:12

One thing T-vadis need to learn is that T-state is not coming because of him, for their agitation or even for their benefit.

T-state is coming of INC interests, by INC and for INC. I have a fair confidence that T-state commoners will be the biggest losers in next gen or two.

I hope they make best of their destiny. My prayers are with them. They have suffered a lot under Nizam and my sympathies are with them all the time.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jul 2013 08:37

Doggy Raja is truly Shakuni mama to Rahul baba.