Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 05 Sep 2013 21:24

^ Why would have been my only question to the assassinated Indian ?
Anyways May she find peace in Sri-Hari.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 05 Sep 2013 23:42

IMF rules : Dar unveils new tariff for agriculture sector

ISLAMABAD : A day after the International Monitory Fund approved a new programme worth $6.64 billion, Dar said that they will be making some changes in the electricity tariff for agricultural sector.

The Finance Minister defended the third programme that the government has sought from IMF saying that the $6.64 billion loan was a “better package” brought on by negotiating by the government.

Cheers

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 06 Sep 2013 01:13

National Bird Sends four to their 72

NORTH WAZIRISTAN: At least four people were killed when a US drone targeted a house with missiles in North Waziristan early on Friday, Express News reported.
The drone fired missile at a house located in Ghulam Khan area of North Waziristan. The attack left at least four people dead.........

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 06 Sep 2013 01:41

agastya wrote:National Bird Sends four to their 72

Drone testing ground

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 06 Sep 2013 02:15

venug wrote:Happened in Afg, but has Taliban connection:
Live! Indian author Sushmita Banerjee shot dead by militants in Afghanistan

May she find eternal peace at the lotus feet of Narayana.

Indian Diplomacy needs to stop harping about old tales of Kabuliwala's or Santa Claus on its YouTube channel .
The need of the hour is an Indian Lord of War supplying ANA to take on the Taleban and pummel them relentlessly till their end.

Let it be a MM grenade or a Mortar shell bearing her name and stamped with OFB Kolkata (Ayudh Bhavan) which dispatches this bunch of Talebs who murdered her .

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Sep 2013 06:14

Lilo wrote:
venug wrote:Happened in Afg, but has Taliban connection:
Live! Indian author Sushmita Banerjee shot dead by militants in Afghanistan
May she find eternal peace at the lotus feet of Narayana.

Indian Diplomacy needs to stop harping about old tales of Kabuliwala's or Santa Claus on its YouTube channel .
The need of the hour is an Indian Lord of War supplying ANA to take on the Taleban and pummel them relentlessly till their end.

Let it be a MM grenade or a Mortar shell bearing her name and stamped with OFB Kolkata (Ayudh Bhavan) which dispatches this bunch of Talebs who murdered her .

I have the exact same feelings and I completely agree.

However, we know that the above is not going to happen. India is yet to 'avenge' so many humiliations, murders and mutilations heaped on it. The standard refrain by those who are impotent is it would be done at a time and place of India's choice. The standard refrain by most is, let us move forward. I see therefore bleak chances for any retaliation of any kind at all.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Sep 2013 06:53

India bombing Taliban in Afghanistan?

We are yet to act against those behind the biggest terror attack on India (26/11). Hafeez Sayeed is roaming around holding anti India rallies while our diplomats hope to change the world's perception of south asia by talking to Pakistan and you think we will bomb Taliban?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Sep 2013 07:18

While the jingo wants retribution, moves are afoot for something else altogether.

Dates Being Worked Out for PMs' Meet in New York - Meena Menon, The Hindu

India and Pakistan were in touch with each other and dates were being worked out for a meeting between their leaders on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York, said Foreign Affairs Ministry spokesperson Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry on Thursday.

Addressing a weekly media briefing, Mr. Chaudhry reiterated that the meeting between the two Prime Ministers could be a useful opportunity to engage in a constructive dialogue to discuss ways of building mutual trust and improving bilateral relations. He, however, declined to confirm September 29 as a possible date for the meeting.

In reply to a question whether the Indian Home Minister had said that Pakistan has agreed to hand over the people wanted by India, he said he had not seen Sushil Kumar Shinde’s statement being referred to. He clarified that the dialogue process between the two countries had not yet resumed and all matters of concern to both countries would be discussed. {Look at the Pakistani perfidy here. They are baiting India knowing that naive Indian leadership would fall for it for a thousandth time}

To a question on the recent views expressed by Indian High Commissioner T.C.A. Raghavan, Mr. Chaudhry said the Indian side could have its own views. Dr. Raghavan viewed the LoC incident as a “setback” for the dialogue process. Adding that while there was a feeling in India also to continue to engage with Pakistan, incidents such as the recent one on the LoC raised doubts on Pakistan’s sincerity, he reportedly said after a courtesy call paid to Sartaj Aziz, Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security & Foreign Affairs.

Obvoiusly, INC leaders are saying one thing to the nation and doing the diameterically opposite behind the back.

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Sep 2013 07:54

X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrlorism” thread.

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion inspired sectarian violence in Afghanistan sees citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan adhering to the Sunni sect of Mohammaddenism attack a place of worship used by Afghans belonging to the Shia sect of Mohammaddenism and for their effort get to enjoy 72 houri’s:

Kabul says Pakistan militants killed in mosque attack

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Sep 2013 08:03

SSridhar wrote:While the jingo wants retribution, moves are afoot for something else altogether.

Dates Being Worked Out for PMs' Meet in New York - Meena Menon, The Hindu

India and Pakistan were in touch with each other and dates were being worked out for a meeting between their leaders on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York, said Foreign Affairs Ministry spokesperson Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry on Thursday.

Addressing a weekly media briefing, Mr. Chaudhry reiterated that the meeting between the two Prime Ministers could be a useful opportunity to engage in a constructive dialogue to discuss ways of building mutual trust and improving bilateral relations. He, however, declined to confirm September 29 as a possible date for the meeting.

In reply to a question whether the Indian Home Minister had said that Pakistan has agreed to hand over the people wanted by India, he said he had not seen Sushil Kumar Shinde’s statement being referred to. He clarified that the dialogue process between the two countries had not yet resumed and all matters of concern to both countries would be discussed. {Look at the Pakistani perfidy here. They are baiting India knowing that naive Indian leadership would fall for it for a thousandth time}

To a question on the recent views expressed by Indian High Commissioner T.C.A. Raghavan, Mr. Chaudhry said the Indian side could have its own views. Dr. Raghavan viewed the LoC incident as a “setback” for the dialogue process. Adding that while there was a feeling in India also to continue to engage with Pakistan, incidents such as the recent one on the LoC raised doubts on Pakistan’s sincerity, he reportedly said after a courtesy call paid to Sartaj Aziz, Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security & Foreign Affairs.
Obvoiusly, INC leaders are saying one thing to the nation and doing the diameterically opposite behind the back.

Seems to be that it is easier to get to hear our Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh speak if you happen to be the Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan rather than if you are a legislator in our Rajya Sabha seeking an explanation on matters such as the coal scam

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Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 06 Sep 2013 09:19

Why does this government sound like a tactical "arm" of an enemy government. A bit like Charlie Wilsons war.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 06 Sep 2013 09:49

In the meanwhile, to borrow a phrase, back at the ranch, more cutlets being fried by Droneacharya.

US drone strike in North Waziristan kills six

MIRAMSHAH: At least six suspected militants were killed and three others wounded in a US drone strike on a compound in Ghulam Khan Tehsil of North Waziristan Agency near the Pak-Afghan border

Official intelligence sources told Dawn.com that the drone fired three missiles on a compound believed to be owned by the Haqqani network of Afghan Taliban in the village of Darga Mandi.

Six suspected militants were killed whereas three others were injured in the strike.

The un-manned spy-crafts continued their low-alitutde flights in the area after the incident, according to local residents.

“The identity of the dead could not be ascertained at this hour but this areas is mostly inhibited by the Afghan Haqqani Network of Taliban,” officials said.

US drone missiles have targeted areas near the Afghan border, including North Waziristan, the main stronghold for various militant groups aligned with al Qaeda and the Taliban, since 2004.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Sep 2013 13:42

The US is determined to spread Aman-ki-Asha even further.

US Think Tank Website to Push India-Pakistan Dialogue

Working with bloggers in India and Pakistan, a US think-tank has launched a website to stimulate a cross-border dialogue on security issues and promote normal and cooperative relations between the two South Asian neighbours.

Called "South Asian Voices: Generation Why" the new "website is designed to serve a new generation of young analysts in India and Pakistan to enable them to find common ground and communicate directly with each other on security issues that now divide their nations", according to the Stimson Center President and CEO Ellen Laipson.

The address of the new site is www.southasianvoices.org

"The site will encourage analysts to seek out pragmatic solutions to disputes involving nuclear weapons, conventional forces, water disputes, migration, trade and other contentious issues," Laipson said.

Two Indian and two Pakistani security bloggers writing for the new website will be selected each year as visiting fellows at the Stimson Center in Washington.

The visiting fellows will work on research projects and meet with executive branch officials, visit Capitol Hill and interact with think tanks, said Stimson co-founder Michael Krepon, who is director of the Centre's South Asia Project.

The fellowships and the new website are being funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and the US Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration.

"We're calling this a website for 'Generation Why' because talented young analysts in India and Pakistan are questioning why relations remain so strained between their countries," Krepon said.

"They deserve a say in their region's future and Stimson intends to help them find their voices."

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Sep 2013 13:46

Promptly, the above website carried the following article.

India - Pak CBMs and Cricket: Duck, Six or Somewhere in Between

The Indo-Pak agreement, initiated in 1989, not to attack each others’ nuclear installations resulting in the yearly exchange of list of nuclear facilities and advance notification of missile launches, initiated in 2005, are examples of two limited yet successful Indo-Pak CBMs.

To which, I sent my comment, which of course is not to the liking of the Think Tank and they have chosen not to publish it. Below is what I wrote.

The author has a confused idea about CBMs going by his two citations of ‘Exchange of List of Nuclear Installations’ in each country that should not be attacked and the ‘Notification of Missile Launches’.

These are not CBMs in its true sense. They are borne out of necessity and probably coerced by the US to agree to because a strike on nuclear installations or a misinterpretation of a test launch of a missile as a missile attack against another (because of short distances and little reaction times) thus resulting in a conflagration which in turn may lead to a regional disaster.

The true CBM, which the author forgot to write about, was the Indus Water Treaty(IWT) in which an upper riparian state (India) willingly gave away over two-thirds of water to a lower riparian (Pakistan) which had not only parted ways but even attacked it in 1947 and 1948. Apart from being generous in apportioning water, India also gave Pakistan GBP 62 Million for related civil works at a time when its own foreign exchange reserve position was rather precarious. The IWT came into effect in January 1961 and India was attacked in the Rann of Kutch in April 1965 followed by a bigger and deceitful attack in Kashmir a few months later on August 5.

The greatest CBM in the present circumstances would be if Pakistan disbands its terrorist tanzeems and turns around its policy of asymmetrical warfare through employment of non-state actors to bleed India with a thousand cuts.Anything else would be futile. Pakistan cannot claim that it cannot do this overnight because one has not even seen any steps being taken in that direction by it. Even taking some verifiable and irreversible small steps in that direction would be a significant CBM. On the other hand, with the denouement approaching in Afghanistan, the Pakistan Army and the Establishment seem to experience a sense of deja vu in re-establishing the lost strategic depth in Afghanistan.

Let us therefore be realistic in suggesting the CBMs that would lead to thawing of the ‘enduring hostility’.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Sep 2013 13:52

SSridhar wrote:The US is determined to spread Aman-ki-Asha even further.

US Think Tank Website to Push India-Pakistan Dialogue
[=>quote]Two Indian and two Pakistani security bloggers writing for the new website will be selected each year as visiting fellows at the Stimson Center in Washington.

The visiting fellows will work on research projects and meet with executive branch officials, visit Capitol Hill and interact with think tanks, said Stimson co-founder Michael Krepon, who is director of the Centre's South Asia Project.

The fellowships and the new website are being funded by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and the US Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration.

"We're calling this a website for 'Generation Why' because talented young analysts in India and Pakistan are questioning why relations remain so strained between their countries," Krepon said.

"They deserve a say in their region's future and Stimson intends to help them find their voices."{}[=>/quote]

Free US visit, etc for anyone who is willing to toe the US line on India Pak relations. After these worthies are properly groomed and trained, they will be unleashed on the unsuspecting Indian public as ex-farts with credentials certified by massa.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Sep 2013 15:55

As Pakistan condemns, second drone strike kills Haqqani network leader

ISLAMABAD: A senior leader of the Haqqani network was allegedly killed, among others, in a US drone strike in Miranshah on Friday, Express News reported.

This was the second drone strike in a single day.

Earlier this morning, the first drone strike of the day killed around four people in North Waziristan.

Pakistan condemns

Pakistan strongly condemned the US drone strike that took place early this morning.

Foreign office spokesperson in a statement said that these unilateral strikes are a violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

He further added that the government of Pakistan has consistently maintained that drone strikes are counter-productive, entail loss of innocent civilian lives and have human rights and humanitarian implications.

Additionally, such strikes also set dangerous precedents in the inter-state relations.{Is this a new line or has it been used before?}

The spokesperson said these drone strikes have a negative impact on the mutual desire of both countries to forge a cordial and cooperative relationship and to ensure peace and stability in the region.

Bakis have used condom to protect their sau-virginity.

saip · Post by **saip** » 06 Sep 2013 19:29

Now Bangla Desh exports more than Pakistan!

Unwanted Milestones

But the editor cant help doing equal equal!

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 06 Sep 2013 19:59

@Pankajs ^^: "they will be unleashed on the unsuspecting Indian public."

No worries. The Indian public like all publics want bread and circuses. In our case, make that bollywood, cricket and butter chicken.

These guys will be preaching to the choir.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 06 Sep 2013 20:01

"because talented young analysts in India and Pakistan are questioning why relations remain so strained between their countries," Krepon said.

What makes him think they have talent if they can't see what's in front of them?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Sep 2013 20:49

Perhaps "creep" Krepon can chew upon this,from his own country's assessment of Pak!

Top-secret U.S. intelligence files show new levels of distrust of Pakistan
By Greg Miller, Craig Whitlock and Barton Gellman,September 02, 2013

Pakistani security guards stand alert outside the U.S. consulate in Lahore on Aug. 12, 2013. The U.S. intelligence communitys black budget shows that the United States has ramped up its surveillance of Pakistans nuclear arms.

Pakistani security guards stand alert outside the U.S. consulate in Lahore… (ARIF ALI/AFP/Getty Images )

The $52.6 billion U.S. intelligence arsenal is aimed mainly at unambiguous adversaries, including al-Qaeda, North Korea and Iran. But top-secret budget documents reveal an equally intense focus on one purported ally: Pakistan.

No other nation draws as much scrutiny across so many categories of national security concern.

A 178-page summary of the U.S. intelligence community’s “black budget” shows that the United States has ramped up its surveillance of Pakistan’s nuclear arms, cites previously undisclosed concerns about biological and chemical sites there, and details efforts to assess the loyalties of counterterrorism sources recruited by the CIA.

Pakistan appears at the top of charts listing critical U.S. intelligence gaps. It is named as a target of newly formed analytic cells. And fears about the security of its nuclear program are so pervasive that a budget section on containing the spread of illicit weapons divides the world into two categories: Pakistan and everybody else.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 06 Sep 2013 21:30

No one from India and Pakistan is questioning why relations remain so strained between their countries,We all know the reason.
Only a dumb idiot would still question it. Strained relations with India are jugular vein of Paki existence. Take that away
and there is no reason d'etre for Pakistan or Djinna or ML to exist.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 07 Sep 2013 00:06

SSridhar wrote:Promptly, the above website carried the following article.

India - Pak CBMs and Cricket: Duck, Six or Somewhere in Between

The Indo-Pak agreement, initiated in 1989, not to attack each others’ nuclear installations resulting in the yearly exchange of list of nuclear facilities and advance notification of missile launches, initiated in 2005, are examples of two limited yet successful Indo-Pak CBMs.

SSridhar Ji :

1. With respect J. L. Nehru “GAVE AWAY” 80.2 Per Cent of the Indus Waters to Pakistan i.e. OVER FOUR FIFTH.

2. Of the 18 “Authors” - Generation Why – Eleven are Pakistanis and Seven are Indians.

Three including Dr. Arun Vishwanathan - E-maila: arun_summerhill@yahoo.com, arun.vishwanathan@gmail.com – are from JNU.

What else can we expect as the Indian “representation” is Totally Secular and the Pakistani "representation" is "Totally Sharia (for want of a better word)"!

Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Sep 2013 01:42

Sheraton's NLI Act
Hotel chains: Sheraton exits as Karachi loses its sparkle

KARACHI:
The exit of Sheraton Hotel (Karachi) from Pakistan’s hospitality industry, primarily due to the city’s poor security situation, has raised an obvious question: is Karachi still an attractive market for international luxury hotel chains?The answer to this question, according to sources in the hotel industry, depends on how the present government, which is about to launch a clean-up operation against criminals, tackles the law and order situation in the city.“Shortly after the news of the Karachi operation broke, we received numerous ‘calculations’ from international visitors, expected this month, that they won’t be travelling now,” said an official working for one of the upscale hotels in the city.In response to The Express Tribune queries, Starwood confirmed the development.The News reported that ASE has entered into a deal with Mövenpick Hotels and Resorts, an international hotel chain based in Switzerland. The property will be renamed as Mövenpick Hotel Karachi.The Kuwaiti owner of the country’s only Sheraton Hotel cited the poor security situation and adverse government policies, which dented its revenues, as reasons for its decision, according to the report.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Sep 2013 02:16

eBaloch ‏@BalaachMarri 36m Kiyani visits Sui: welcomed with rockets, mortars; 6 army personnel killed, several injured. BRA claims responsibility. #BalochistanWar

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BalochistanWar&src=hash

Please follow them on Twitter. These brave people are fighting against Pak Rats. Like Badshah Khan Said, Lions left at the mercy of Hyenas and Street Dogs. Indians have the moral duty to support these braves.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 03:54

Peregrine wrote:1. With respect J. L. Nehru “GAVE AWAY” 80.2 Per Cent of the Indus Waters to Pakistan i.e. OVER FOUR FIFTH.

Peregrine ji, I excluded the contribution of the Kabul river to the Indus.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 07 Sep 2013 03:59

Cosmo_R wrote:"because talented young analysts in India and Pakistan are questioning why relations remain so strained between their countries," Krepon said.

What makes him think they have talent if they can't see what's in front of them?

In some circles the talent is defined by their ability to do == between the siblings, Devas and ahuras

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 04:12

Pakistan Militants Prepare for War in Afghanistan After Foreign Forces Withdraw - ToI

Militants in Pakistan's most populous province are said to be training for what they expect will be an ethnic-based civil war in neighbouring Afghanistan after foreign forces withdraw in 16 months.

In the past two years, the number of Punjab-based militants deploying to regions bordering on Afghanistan has tripled and is now believed to be in the thousands, says analyst Mansur Mehsud.

He runs the FATA Institute, an Islamabad-based think tank studying the mix of militant groups that operate in Pakistan's tribal belt running along much of the 2,600-kilometre Afghan-Pakistan border.

Mehsud, himself from South Waziristan where militants also hide out, says more than 150 militant groups operate in the tribal regions, mostly in mountainous, heavily forested North Waziristan. Pocked with hideouts, it is there that al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahri is believed to be hiding and where Afghanistan says many of its enemies have found sanctuary.

While militants from Punjab province have long sought refuge and training in the tribal regions, they were fewer in number and confined their hostility to Pakistan's neighbour and foe, India.

All that is changing, say analysts. "Before, they were keeping a low profile. But just in the last two or three years hundreds have been coming from Punjab," said Mehsud. "Everyone knows that when Nato and the American troops leave Afghanistan there will be fighting between Pashtuns and non-Pashtuns."

And the Punjabis in all likelihood will side with their fellow Pashtuns, who make up the backbone of the Afghan Taliban.

"We will go to Afghanistan to fight alongside the Taliban as we have done in the past," said a senior member of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), a militant Sunni Muslim group, who goes by a nom du guerre, Ahmed Zia Siddiqui.

In an interview with Associated Press in Pakistan, he said the Taliban haven't yet requested help, but when asked whether Punjab-based militants were preparing for war in Afghanistan after the foreign withdrawal, he replied: "Absolutely."

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 06:57

From the archives of The Hindu dated Sep 07, 1963,

Kennedy’s letter

A spokesman of the External Affairs Ministry on September 5 confirmed that Mr. Nehru had received a letter from President Kennedy on the Kashmir issue. He said the letter was received about the middle of last month and it had been answered. According to informed sources, Mr. Nehru’s reply is believed to be on the lines of the Prime Minister’s reply to the debate on international affairs in the Rajya Sabha. The sources recalled that Mr. Nehru in his speech referred to suggestions by some countries that India had to be generous with regard to Kashmir and asked whether India had to be generous at the cost of the people of Kashmir.

The 'generous' refrain has been there for a long time.

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Sep 2013 07:04

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2013\09\07\story_7-9-2013_pg7_5

More than two dozen rockets fired on army settlements

DERA BUGTI: Unidentified gunmen fired more than two-dozen rockets in a Pakistan Army cantonment and nearby checkposts. According to sources, the long-range rockets were fired on Sui cantonment and nearby checkposts as the army chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and Balochistan Chief Minister Dr Abdul Malik Baloch were visiting the area. According to local sources, several blasts took place inside the cantonment during the attack. The Balochistan CM and the army chief left their visit uncompleted due to security threats from Baloch militants. A militant organisation – Baloch Republican Army – claimed responsibility for the rocket attacks. BRA spokesman Sarbaaz Baloch phoned a local media outlet via satellite phone from an undisclosed location and claimed that fighters from their organisation had attacked several army outposts located between Sui town and the army cantonment where forces faced heavy casualties.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Sep 2013 07:19

Where are the drones when you need one? Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Islamabad.

Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) founder Hafiz Saeed appeared openly at a rally in Islamabad on Friday, denouncing India as a terrorist state

The United States has offered $10 million for information leading to his arrest and conviction. Hiyar he ij. Bhere ij my $10M?

Saeed is the founder of the LeT, a militant group banned in Pakistan but tolerated unofficially and believed to be close to the army.

How close? Everyone's favorite dyed-in-wool jihadi general and a live PA/ISI representative had this to say:

“They should know there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the conquest of India,” Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI intelligence service, told the crowd. “It will be our privilege to take part in this war.”

Meanwhile, back at the mental asylum:

As the crowd cheered, two men performed a patriotic song threatening to “turn the whole of India into Mumbai”.

“Whoever is a friend of India is a traitor”

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Sep 2013 07:32

Blasphemy case against columnist: Complaint lodged for use of word 'secular'

Malsi mahan Ki Pehachan ,Pakistan

A complaint was lodged against columnist Ajmal Khan Niazi at the behest of Mazhar Khan Ashraf on charges of blasphemy on Thursday. Mazhar Khan Ashraf initially attempted to lodge the complaint at the Islampura Police Station Lahore, but the SHO dismissed his claim.He then proceeded to seek the courts assistance, where he argued that the columnist had published a column in the daily Nawa-i-Waqt, which stated that Allah and His Prophet are both secular. He stated in court that he had consulted a dictionary, which revealed the meaning of secular as being a non-believer. The statement, according to Ashraf, hurt not only his sentiments, but thousands of his fellow believers.Additional District and Sessions Judge Akmal Khan, directed the SHO Islampura to file an official complaint and look into the matter. What manner of investigation is to be conducted is not known. Mr Niazi when contacted confirmed the report and said he was not acquainted with the complainant and had never met him or had any dealings with him before this.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 09:03

Nawaz Sharif Govt to opt for 'Peace Talks' with the Taliban - The Express Tribune

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his cabinet members will present a proposed roadmap for engagement to representatives of all parliamentary parties, according to an official of the interior ministry.

The government has relied on multiple sources to formulate prerequisites and an agenda for the talks with the TTP, including recommendations by the APC organised by the Jamiat-e-Ulema Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) earlier last year.

Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan met the JUI-F chief on Friday and besides inviting him to the APC sought his advice on talks with the Taliban, said a PML-N official.

Speaking at a news conference after the meeting, the interior minister assured Maulana Fazl that the army also favoured the dialogue option. Drawing attention to an earlier statement by the federal defence secretary opposing talks with the militants, Fazl said the secretary was a retired army officer and was only a bureaucrat. “Bureaucrats should refrain from making such statements,” he said.

Meanwhile, Nisar sanguinely said, “All political parties are on the same page for holding talks with the Taliban and a positive outcome is expected from the APC.” {They are all seeing the virtues of a 'strategic depth' being re-established}

Talking to The Express Tribune, interior ministry spokesperson Omar Hameed Khan explained, “The government will start negotiations with the TTP only after developing a consensus on the issue.”

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan also accepted the invitation to attend the APC. His party’s spokesperson confirmed that Imran would personally attend the conference. Besides giving his suggestions on the Taliban talks, the PTI chief would also take up the issue of drone strikes in North Waziristan.

The Awami National Party (ANP) also confirmed its participation. The party’s information secretary, Senator Zahid Khan, said the ANP planned on giving its recommendations not only on a national security policy but also on the Karachi law and order situation. ANP chief Asfandyar Wali Khan has excused himself, but asked Chaudhry Nisar to invite senior party leader Senator Haji Adeel instead. {Asfandyar Wali Khan never regained his composure after he was so badly rattled by the suicide attack on him which he escaped narrowly}

So, the post-2014 scenario is too tempting for everyone in Pakistan to forge a unity .

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 09:29

Peregrine wrote:Three including Dr. Arun Vishwanathan - E-maila: arun_summerhill@yahoo.com, arun.vishwanathan@gmail.com – are from JNU.

Thanks, Peregrine ji. Forwarded my comments to him FWIW.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Sep 2013 12:36

7 Shi'a Gunned Down in the Punjab - ToI

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 07 Sep 2013 17:39

Wedding celebrates cross-border harmony

On either side of the border between India and Pakistan, two elite influential families, including one of Pakistan’s top political family currently in power, ceremoniously entered into a relationship by virtue of the marriage of their children in Chandigarh on Friday.

Daughter of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s younger brother Shahbaz Sharif, who is presently the Chief Minister of Punjab province of Pakistan, got married with the grandson of Lt General (retd) P N Hoon, a former Indian Army commander.

Khabija is Sharif’s daughter from his third wife, family sources said. He was not present during any of the ceremonies. For reasons best known to the family, the welcome notice outside the venue read “Somya weds Kanv.” The high profile reception witnessed a host of VVIP’s from the two nations. The list of invitees was carefully crafted and later pruned to make the event a close-knit wedding. Some Punjab MLAs were also present at the marriage.

Are we seeing Indization of PaKJab. It seems they are learning what is the real face of Islam through AQ and Taliban.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Sep 2013 19:34

^^^ Shahbaz Shariff''s third wife was(?) Tehmina Durrani. I do not think they had children at least of marriageable age. I say that as they got married in 2003.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 07 Sep 2013 19:59

Six killed in militant attack on Kohat Road

PESHAWAR: At least six people were killed and one was injured when militants ambushed a passenger coach and other vehicles on Kohat Road Friday night.
Taliban militants ambushed the passenger coach which has killed six passengers and injured one more, confirmed additional SHO Mattani Gohar Khan while talking to The Express Tribune.
Unaware of the deadly fate that awaited the Karachi-bound bus passengers, the vehicle ran straight into the trap. The passengers were attacked with heavy and medium machine guns.
The militants had taken positions on both sides of the Kohat Road and opened gunfire at around 10pm, hitting more than a dozen vehicles plying on the dark road.
Some half a dozen vehicles on the road were hit by the bullets and it is really difficult to say which one was their target, a member of local Aman Lashker told The Express Tribune.
Following the guerilla attack, a gun battle ensued between the security officials and the attackers. The Pakistan Army was engaged with the Taliban attackers for more than an hour, but in vain.

The militants escaped from the scene, unhurt, taking complete advantage of the darkness. They escaped to Akka Khel area of Khyber Agency.
“We don’t know about the exact cause of the attack on civilian vehicles,” said SHO Khan, adding that the deceased have been shifted to Lady Reading Hospital.
It is worth mentioning here that in the same area militants previously ambushed DPO Kohat Dilwar Khan and two military convoys which had left at least a dozen people killed and another dozen injured.
A massive search operation is underway.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 07 Sep 2013 20:05

kmkraoind wrote:Wedding celebrates cross-border harmony

Does not seem to be a credible news.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Punjab/Ch ... 18438.aspx

Cross-border bonhomie couldn’t get more pronounced. In Panchkula on Friday, Kanav Pratap Hoon, the grandson of Siachen hero Lt Gen Prem Nath Hoon (retd), tied the knot with Samiya Siddiq of Lahore, Pakistan, in a court marriage.

Kanav, 27, and Samiya, 26, had met in Dubai for the first time and fell in love. Samiya is the daughter of Shazia Siddiq and Mian Muhammad Siddiq while the Hoons are natives of Abottabad in Pakistan. Kanav helps in his family’s business of Hyundai dealership at Chandigarh’s Industrial Area.

At the lunch organised on Friday at Taj Chandigarh, Sector 17, for close friends and relatives of the bride and groom, many guests from Pakistan were also in attendance. Prominent local politicians included Punjab MLAs Kewal Singh Dhillon, Rana Gurmit Singh Sodhi and Rana Gurjit Singh.

Though the bride and groom refused to talk to the media, Lt Gen Hoon came forth to clear the rumour that the girl belongs to Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s family. “It is a lie. People should do their homework (before making such statements),” he said.

On getting a Pakistani bride for his grandson, Lt Gen Hoon remarked, “It is a good development that relations are being tied across the border,” and added, “People across the border should meet often. Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif should talk to our prime minister.

Recently, they had talked about a demographic change being introduced in Rajouri [a district in Jammu].” Hoon said “whosoever is living in India is an Indian,” and that “giving respect and talking are two different things.”

The former commander of Indian Army’s Western Command, Lt Gen Hoon was heading 15 Corps regiment when India took over the highest battlefield in the world, Siachen. Operation Meghdoot was the codename of the military exercise undertaken to capture Siachen and launched on April 13, 1984.

Till today, Pakistan lays claim on the glacier.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 07 Sep 2013 20:57

http://www.dawn.com/news/1041213/fashio ... n-peshawar

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 07 Sep 2013 21:39

Ahem uh duh li lah - A lot of cutlets waiting to get fried.