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disha wrote:^^ Against Amit Shah? And trying to "seal the deal" before 29th Delhi address?
No it seems Modi.They are really disturbed with scenario post (in terms of other people joining Modi wagon) CBN joining Delhi rally.
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Since putting Modi in jail may be too risky they may go for next best option. But they are going too far now and after2014 there will be retaliation. In fact there shall be one without fail. Indics suffered too much under this mafia. Looting and treachery shall not go unpunished.
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BJP has opposed the ordinance and Akhilesh is busy blaming others.

BJP slams government over ordinance on convicted lawmakers: Will oppose such a step, govt should explain its hurry

Akhilesh Yadav to CNN-IBN: All the riots that have happened in UP are done by the BJP and BSP.
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Sushupti wrote:
disha wrote:^^ Against Amit Shah? And trying to "seal the deal" before 29th Delhi address?
No it seems Modi.They are really disturbed with scenario post (in terms of other people joining Modi wagon) CBN joining Delhi rally.
Then they should go and "make my day". I will not be surprised if NaMo and his team had planned for this as well!
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disha wrote: Personally, I felt SCs decision was half-ass'ed.

Some of the SC Lawyers and the judges themselves live in the world totally disconnected from reality - not some niche reality - but the average day-to-day reality of Indians. Case in point is Karuna Nundy. Totally disconnected from reality. And it is not their fault, blame it on their cocooned upbringing.

Another case in point is the NSA slapped on the BJP MLA in UP. If that MLA has done something wrong and unlawful that NSA is applicable, feel free to do that. But why the selective application of law to only a subset of MLAs? Why not NSA was slapped on the Sapa and Baspa MLAs? Why is not NSA slapped on Mani Shankar Aiyar? Why is not NSA slapped on DigVijay (Batla house) and any other CongIs?

Basically, any of those acts can be used to cut short a political career. Another example, on twitter - the CONmix-writer-turned-political-commentator-turned-rape-law-expert Rupa S accused a journo of "Sexual Harassment". That is a serious charge. And later Rupa retracted - with a lot of well-deserved egg on her face.

So SCs judgement had great potential to be abused.

BTW, I have met far worse babus and bolis than politicos. So let us keep our righteous indignation in check - we do need a law that debars criminal convicts from holding office and it should not be just a political office.
Well I am not able to understand your logic. My fault.

You are talking of few instances of discrimination. Well Laws can and are misused. How it is applied is entirely different matter.
The Judgement flowed from reading of the constitution and the reasoning.

If you are aware, detention laws don not amount to conviction and hence does not debar a person either from being elector or voter.

There are Babus and bolis who are worse and politicians as well. How does that support your point? You may have met far worse lot and might have become immune. How does that matter to the debate?

Once Babus and bolis decide to become politician, clearly they are crossing into a domain where they have great say in making laws which govern this country. So this judgement had potential to block that as well if a person is convicted.

but again , the proposed exception is only for existing legislators and not for others. meaning that if you are a legislator and convicted for more than three years and appealed within three months you are not debarred. But not so if you are not legislator. You will stand debarred.

And if you are , again aware, then you can not hold any post under the Govt if you are convicted in a court of Law, or you hide such fact, or if you have certain leanings, or if you have criminal case pending etc. It is only political executive which can hold office despite being convicted. But then again one could say that it does not stop babucracy or Bolisgiri to become corrupt or criminal. Sure, but if you get caught you don't get immunity. You are dismissed.

So please keep your calculated indifference in check.
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Taking lesson from Modi Gen. VK Singh decides to bypass DilliBilli media and go direct to the people through social media.

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^^^Ooh goody. This episode already shows all the signs of blowing up in congi faces bigtime. Bring it on.
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Facepalms just don't seem to end for diggy raja :rotfl: He's really getting dragged around...

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Another new. GOI released riot causality figures as per religion of the unfortunate.

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Sanjiv Bhatts Facebook page

Open calls to shoot and kill Modi..and this guy is trying to frame charges against NM for what?
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SC dismisses Swamy's petition on PC and Raja corruption

There is a pattern in this. SS rushes to file useless petition on the INC stalwarts and gets instant fame. Then SC turns around and dismisses them on technicalities.

SS kush that SC admitted his petition
and INC maha kush that SC dismissed the said petition.
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Sushupti wrote:Another new. GOI released riot causality figures as per religion of the unfortunate.

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total bakwas figures if on goes by SM.
No mention of Assam riots and many others including West Bengal.
The riots are based on FIRs which are done on the basis of the local strong man/politican/goonda with police.

twitterati say that numbers of Hindus dead are always made less than muslims or equal to muslims to prevent backlash.

This helps to reinforce the ghetto mentality of musslims and sickular parrties are its saviours.
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The ultimate pracharak...

Shiv Visvanathan

The Narendra Modi juggernaut is moving to Delhi. Most remarkable, how he not only controls the masses around him but determines the narratives about himself. In this essay, I want to break the stencil by going back to Modi and the bureaucracy.

As shrewd observers of power, they provide a sense of his control beyond the creation of riots and gated cities of the future. Listen to five bureaucrats who agreed to talk about his initial years.

Bureaucrats in the Gujarat cadre claimed they used to laugh at Narendra Modi when he first came to meetings. Unlike previous chief ministers who were either MLAs or had some political and administrative experience, this man was a novice, and a pracharak at that.

He came for meetings but sat through them silently. For a whole year, he said nothing. But he asked everyone else to speak. Meetings with secretaries would begin at 6.30 and last long into the night.

Everyone spoke. Everyone had to speak. Each department’s anatomy, agenda, problem, and tactic had to be presented. It was as if his mind and ears were tuning in, listening to notes of discord and making them bend to his will.

“Earlier, we senior bureaucrats would boast about our notes of dissent. We were as proud of them as if they were Supreme Court judgements, discuss them, and describe how we bought a minister's unreal proposal to heel with dissent notes till it sounded the way we wanted.

A few dissent notes could domesticate a minister. But Modi changed the rules of the game. A memo was returned or subject to silent dismissal till it came back the way he wanted it to be written,” the bureaucrat said.

As his knowledge of bureaucracy grew, the logic of evil intensified, increasing by scale from cadre to secretariat to city. Surveillance was high and it created organisations without dissent. He had a way with any opposition, a classic ability to dismember them.

Remember the Bhartiya Kisan Sangh? Raucously loud, they were powerful peasant leaders, people who could gather a lakh of people at a rally with ease. But for Modi, emasculating them was a day's work. They are gone. Modi knows how to dismantle institutionalised opposition, partly by changing the rules of the game.

The chamber of commerce in Gujarat is another example. It’s a powerful pressure group, confident, substantial a bulwark of civil society. Its secretary had this to say, only a few months ago when asked about the COC. He said “what can I tell you, instead of representing us, it is now an extension of the regime.”

These are not sentimental men. They understood the rigours of the politics of patronage. What Modi did to COC was to change its membership, change its content sociologically.

It is now a society of small time businessman, segmented and easy to handle
. It’s a skill that Modi employs to control institutions. The means are clean. He emasculates as a means to counter or dismember. And he is immaculately methodological.

Until Modi, the senior bureaucrats’ experience of other CMs were of men who were ready to please, ready to play by the new rules of the game. In Modi’s case, his initial silence may have been misleading.

Says a bureaucrat “Don't doubt the intelligence, the hegemonic intelligence of the man. He came as pracharak and created a pracharak's world at the secretariat. Two things by that time were clear; the intelligence of the man and his intolerance of dissent.

He was a sponge. He sat, listened, absorbed for a year. It is not as if he was assimilated or diluted by us. It is as if he domesticated and colonised us. He remained the pracharak but the secretariat became a magnified pracharak's world. We became a cadre of clerks, a shakha of bureaucrats. And he sat and listened….”, he adds.

“Modi grew in front of us. What we welcomed with contempt, we now treated with awe. The bumbler was more than a trickster; he was, to use TV terminology, the Mastermind. There is a vulnerability of bureaucrats that one must confront. Few dissent. Most who do, seek transfer, a different comfort zone, a move to Delhi. He who treats them with contempt, commands their awe, their allegiance. We want to please him, to share his power, his manliness, and his assertiveness. Power commands its own sacrament. There is a Masonic conviviality to closeness. Everyone knows the signs of power,” says another.

There is something about tyranny that we must understand, its intelligence. It is — I hate to use the term — a learning system. And Modi is a sponge. He learns from the right people. Look at his dress. The colours are mellow. If you are sharp, you look beyond the dress, and sense the face. It has matured but grown younger. There is an obvious hair transplant. But even that comes like a Modi fable. He begins wearing a woollen cap. News is spread that he is under Ayurvedic treatment which demands that his head be covered for a while. Which Indian does not understand the strictures of Ayurveda? It is more ritualistic than a widowed mother-in-law,” says this perceptive government official.

“The Emergency taught tyrants a lesson. Economise on brutality. Optimise through fear and populism. Why openly coerce people when they are more than ready to be compliant,” says the bureaucrat, who admits “his enthusiasm for his quota may exceed even Modi's targets.”

“Tyranny is an art form. Have you watched the demolitions around the city? Modi erased 650 temples which were seen as illegal, civic or traffic obstructions. Despite all the publicity there was not an iota of protest, merely articulations of surprise.”

The panarchy of evil has shifted upscale from one organisation to a whole secretariat. It is now ready to roar into the capital city. His logic moves upscale, it is clear he is thinking of a megacity.

It is only as master of the megapolis that Modi will seek to become PM. Desire, growth, mobility within the framework of the city. The inventiveness of evil, outrages the power of goodness to understand or resist it.

We cling to bits like Ashis Nandy's classic piece on Modi as an exemplar fascist. But the pracharak has grown, reinvented himself. Even his misanthropy adds to his integrity as he distances his wife, brothers. An evil deodorised is now ready for the next move.

You don't just vote for Modi, you subscribe to him. The mask is an example. You become vociferous, miniature replications of him, as he watches benignly. It is a logic of power we are only beginning to understand, clinging to fragments of understanding as we, like Peanuts’ Linus blanket for a coming crisis.

We strive to distance him but demon-ologies are deceptive. Modi is us. We amplified ourselves to create him. The bureaucrat's response to Modi as a combination of fear and awe and a sneaky admiration, that is now an epidemic. As Modi moves to power, more people see in him, a message and a messiah of modern India. The trouble with fascism is that it is so seductive.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130922/n ... ?page=show
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in that casualties snapshot above isnt there a discrepancy.
Hindus are injured more but dont die in the same proportion whereas muslims are injured less but die in greater proportion. Anyways it is a bakwaas statistic
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Sushupti wrote:The ultimate pracharak...

You become vociferous, miniature replications of him, as he watches benignly.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130922/n ... ?page=show
:mrgreen: 8) :D :twisted: :P

This is what the termite queendom fears. People become self-assertive, listening, absorbing and mending others (termite system) to become like them.
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Chutia article to seduce some jholawala to do the unthinkable
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RamaY wrote:
Sushupti wrote:The ultimate pracharak...

You become vociferous, miniature replications of him, as he watches benignly.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130922/n ... ?page=show
:mrgreen: 8) :D :twisted: :P

This is what the termite queendom fears. People become self-assertive, listening, absorbing and mending others (termite system) to become like them.
Yes, Vishwanathan guy can't decide which way to go? Continue with his current role in the play of Nehruvian secularism or try for new role under Modi. Hence, the speaking from both ends.
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suryag wrote:in that casualties snapshot above isnt there a discrepancy.
Hindus are injured more but dont die in the same proportion whereas muslims are injured less but die in greater proportion. Anyways it is a bakwaas statistic
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 998550.cms
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fanne wrote:Chutia article to seduce some jholawala to do the unthinkable
+100

evil intensified
panarchy of evil
inventiveness of evil
An evil deodorised

Tyranny - 3
Fascist - 2
Brutality - 1
Demon - 1
Surveillance - 1
Emasculates - 1
Dismember - 1
Demolishes - 1
Contempt - 1
Stricture - 1
Mastermind - 1
Hegemonic - 1

Even effing
Masonic -1

Finally has a photo shopped image ,
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We shouldnt underestimate our paid media. Few may seem dumb but many are trained in subliminal messaging . They often employ latest tricks only a professional training in massa can impart .
This artecal should go straight into paid media watch thread.
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Sushupti wrote:The ultimate pracharak...

Shiv Visvanathan
This guy needs to see a shrink as soon as possible...and pick up Di*kBJ Singh on the way.
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Vishwanathan is emptying his vocabulary trying to create a phantom menace. This guy is in love with himself and planning a book.
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:mrgreen:
Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 23 Sep
More @Gen_VKSingh speaks,more the government shall have to duck!Did they not know that this General was not expecting any reemployment?

Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 23 Sep
Wish even one DGP or CS or a HS be of the expressed courage as of @Gen_VKSingh, the Country would have been different today!

Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 23 Sep
India does not need enemies from across the border. It has enough within. Tragic! All for short term gains for entrenched interests.

Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 23 Sep
Because fmr Chief of Army @Gen_VKSingh did not wait for rehab or re-employment from Govt and chose an independent route, it decides to hit!

Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 23 Sep
(“this is the most probable hidden reason)@sheoran74: @Gen_VKSingh aim is to deter others to follow. And scare public servants generally

Kiran Bedi ‏@thekiranbedi 13h
All politi-parties not in power must thwart congress attempt to come up with a Ordinance to retain convicted reps! @narendramodi Sir pl lead
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disha wrote:
No it seems Modi.They are really disturbed with scenario post (in terms of other people joining Modi wagon) CBN joining Delhi rally.
Then they should go and "make my day". I will not be surprised if NaMo and his team had planned for this as well!
It seems congis have gone beyond arrogance of power and fear for gaddi--they are actually scared about their physical well-being now and will do anything to preserve their skins.
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Victor wrote: It seems congis have gone beyond arrogance of power and fear for gaddi--they are actually scared about their physical well-being now and will do anything to preserve their skins.
This is where I was coming from, with my prev. suggestion. Cut a deal with the die-nasty - they escape abroad, leave kangrez to die nasty. BJP sweeps elections with no opposition. Then retribution against dynasty by other means.
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http://m.indianexpress.com/news/hidden- ... t/1173756/
Hidden in plain sight
Pratap Bhanu Mehta


Our institutions have lost the credibility to project the truth.
( he should have just said BRF told you So for the last 9 years)
While we debate such serious matters as the battle for the soul of India, the transformation of Indian politics, the possibilities of growth, the real political battle of the moment remains hidden in plain sight. The ponderous debates over the big issues cannot throw a cloak over the really ugly battle: India’s elites are now like a crazed pack of wolves, completely out of control to the point that they are devouring each other in an unprecedented frenzy, taking down every institution with them. The real crisis is not order versus disorder, communalism versus secularism, growth versus stagnation. The real crisis is this: what happens to a society when everyone tears into each other without restraint? It is general versus general, chief justice versus chief justice, economist versus economist, media against media, bureaucrat against bureaucrat and all professions against each other. The real battle is among an old elite now in the last throes of self-destruction, where even minimal self-awareness is too much to expect. Much of this fight is a frenzy of rhetorical excess. But alas, most of it will have deadly consequences on the ground.
( shall we feel Vindicated ?)
But you know an elite has completely lost it when it does not understand one plain fact about truth and power. Truth is not about the facts. It depends on the credibility of the regimes that produce it. None of our truth producing regimes has any credibility left. From the judiciary to the media, the government to the opposition, no institution has the credibility to be able to project the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But whatever the truth, think of the harm already done. It will take years for the army to recover its credibility. Any large institution will have some degree of factional politics. But it has now reached proportions that are damaging the very credibility of the institution. The government had little credibility to begin with. It has compounded this by targeting opponents in such a way that the odour of politicisation hangs over everything. The entire decision-making structure of the defence ministry is culpable in bringing things to such a pass. But its credibility is so destroyed that even when it takes the correct action in future, you will not be able to trust whether it took it for the right motives ( Sant is Asant and Sinner)
But in miniature, this story is being repeated in every branch of government, wide sections of the media and civil society, and possibly even in business. On full display is an extraordinary lack of self-awareness. The real battle is that India’s plutocracy is overreaching: it is destroying from within the veils that granted it a modicum of legitimacy. It will not take a political scientist but a novelist of extraordinary psychological subtlety to explain how a ruling class came to internalise a shrill, self-destructive culture, where short-term interest triumphs over all norms, where personal goals override all processes, where a sense of entitlement overcomes judgement, where petty rivalries put all national interest at risk, and prejudgements and inchoate ambitions disable all reason and reasonableness. This is an elite so much in its own cocoon that it has lost sight of all consequences. Political history tells us that an order is about to collapse when the following is true of its elites: conspiracy supplants facts, ridicule replaces authority, jokes are the only mode of analysis that captures deep truths, an air of absurdity hangs over the liturgy of the state, generals are squabbling and the godmen are in the net of sex or wealth. We are getting pretty close to that point.
Many of these exposures could have produced a real cleansing had they been allied to progressive political change. This could have been part of the great manthan where all the old poison comes out. Initially, there was enthusiasm for this muck-raking because it was a sign that the system was being cleaned up. But mostly, it ended up producing cynicism and an environment of low trust. The sunlight is not proving to be much of a disinfectant. Rather, it is blinding us so that we often cannot see the truth even when it is in front of us. It is often feared that India, impatient with the governance deficit, will veer towards authoritarianism. But perhaps we are misreading this yearning. Our longing for a strong leader may not be so much an anti-democratic longing, the need for dictatorship to keep the masses at bay. The masses will do just fine. Rather, it is a distorted form of self-recognition of an elite, that it is no longer capable of self-mastery and restraint. It is the ruling classes yearning for a stout kick. It is the rulers hoping that someone from the inside disciplines them, before the bonfire of credibility turns into a real fire of demagoguery( Shahi French Moment For Traitors )
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The scenario above will probably happen. I spoke about it much earlier. Two things could happen at this point:

a) Congress leaders take care of Modi whether through imprisonment or other means. Problem with this scenario is that it would start a revolution in this country and the chance of them leaving becomes slim especially with men in uniform and spooks turn against them.

b) Cut a deal now and run. The only problem with this option is they can't carry everyone along with them either. What's to say that someone within their ranks wont turn against them before they leave? Personally, I feel she will just pretend like she is sick and go to the Americans or Italians for treatment along with her kids and give the one-finger salute to all the natives in her cabinet.

Congress has really dug itself a huge grave. I think everyone can really feel it this time. Just about everybody in this country is fed up. Heck I even spoke to a Christian NGO wallah and even he is rooting for Modi. Even if he isn't given the PM chair now he is just too big to contain. He would eventually sit on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if backroom deals are already taking place with Modi and Co.
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hun khato nathi, ane khavane deto nathi
let us take vote count here.. how many can religiously do this?

I am one. x=1. let us take on x += 1 post counts. of course if you have ever been corrupt or have participated in bribery (giver or taker), please don't respond, else just add one to x.
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Jhujar wrote:http://m.indianexpress.com/news/hidden- ... t/1173756/
Hidden in plain sight
Pratap Bhanu Mehta


Our institutions have lost the credibility to project the truth.
( he should have just said BRF told you So for the last 9 years)
In fact, PB Mehta here is simply continuing to don the "Neutralista" mask as usual. He rants and raves in general terms about "truth" and "institutional credibility" as if the institutions themselves... and not the Manmohan-Maino regime... are responsible for what is happening. Consider this excerpt:
But the fact that this battle had to be fought in public in this way has put so many other things at stake. In one stroke, the disclosures and V.K. Singh’s response have destroyed the credibility of the democratic process in Kashmir. You do not have to be very smart to recognise that in an atmosphere as conspiratorially thick as Kashmir’s, these disclosures are a bombshell, one that may cost both lives and the Indian Union.
If there had been no "disclosure"... i.e. if Manmohan Singh and Sonia Maino had not "leaked" to their kept-media rats a report that the government had shelved for months on end, and which was scheduled for official closure in June 2013... why would there have been a need for Gen. VK Singh to "respond" at all?

Yet what we see from PB Mehta is the same mealy-mouthed equivocation, proffered with a presumption of occupying a "neutral stance" between the rapist and the victim, between the Manmohan-Maino regime and the Institutions of India. Mehta says the disclosures and the response were "one stroke", but anyone who can count will clearly understand that there are, in fact, two strokes in play here.

The first stroke is a motivated piece of slander by the Manmohan-Maino regime, aimed solely at discrediting a retired officer for his perceived closeness to Narendra Modi, even at the cost of outing a secret MI cell (the TDS) and exposing to the wide world allegations about back-room deals between the Indian Army and J&K politicians. This alone has done the damage that will come back to haunt India at every level: from giving a new arsenal of pressure tactics to the US State Department, to achieving the abject demoralization of Indian soldiers, to supplying Pakistani internet warriors with the greatest ammunition they have received since Digivijay Singh's "Saffron Terrorism". The second stroke is General VK Singh defending himself from this slander.

The question to ponder is: would it have made ANY difference to the damage done to the Army's institutional credibility, if Gen VK Singh had just kept quiet and not responded? What would we have seen then, except Sonia Maino's kept-media rats shoving their microphones in the General's face every time he stepped outside his house, begging and provoking him for a comment for weeks on end to keep the story alive at any cost, running a "breaking news" item every time he frowned at the cameras? If he had kept silent, wouldn't the Manmohan-Maino regime and their kept-media rats made a huge issue out of his silence, by imputing that if he is silent then he must have something to hide? Would all of these things not have been equally damaging to the Army's credibility, or more so, than the mere fact that General VK Singh responded? After all, they come from the Government of India!
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Mehta probably received favors from the maino regime. can you blame him?
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Modi paying special attention to Kerala. Earlier it was Onam greetings in Malyalam. Is he planning some surprise on 2014 election result day?
Narendra Modi to visit Bhopal,Kerala,Tamil Nadu on Wednesday/Thursday

Gujarat Chief Minister Shri Narendra Modi will be on Bhopal/Kerala/Tamil Nadu visit on Wednesday/Thursday.

Shri Modi will inaugurate a national conference on skill development at Gandhinagar on Wednesday. Later he will fly to Bhopal to attend Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister’s Karyakarta Mahakumbh rally.

Late in the evening he will fly to Kerala and address Kerala state BJP meeting as Chairman of party’s national campaign committee.

On Thursday, September 26th, Shri Modi will visit Padmanabha swamy temple and garland Mahatma Ayyankali’s statue. He will hold a meeting with Maharaja of Travancore.

Shri Modi will also visit Mata Amrutanandamayi on her 60th birthday and participate in the function at Amruta Vishwa Vidhyapeetham.


Shri Modi will move to Tamil Nadu in the afternoon and address a big BJP rally of youths at Trichy. He will also address Tamil Nadu BJP office bearers and party workers.


http://deshgujarat.com/2013/09/24/naren ... ythursday/
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@harbans, where is the open call to $hoot Modi in Sanjiv Bhatt's page, any pointers to the post/ comment ?
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/bjp- ... 10223.html
this plan is big! hope it works out for modi - the nod has to come from rajini. if you have coin just flip it and check out the odds.
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Rudradev wrote: If he had kept silent, wouldn't the Manmohan-Maino regime and their kept-media rats made a huge issue out of his silence, by imputing that if he is silent then he must have something to hide? Would all of these things not have been equally damaging to the Army's credibility, or more so, than the mere fact that General VK Singh responded? After all, they come from the Government of India!
This is exactly why Gen VKS stated, while responding, that many people will face murder charges for this treasonous leak. The entire congi brass from top to bottom are in deeper sh!t than they could have imagined.
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Candidate Modi

Modi is determined to kill the image of an anti-Muslim zealot; all the effort now is to become the reconciler, the unifier.

By Uday Mahurkar and Bhavna Vij-Aurora

Three days before Narendra Modi was anointed BJP's prime ministerial candidate for General Elections 2014 on September 13, members of the party's minority cell boarded 14 boats to reach the picturesque bird sanctuary of Nal Sarovar, 60 km from Ahmedabad. They chose such a bucolic backdrop to devise a defence for Modi's most vulnerable plank: Gujarat 2002. They were not worried about India's most popular politician's capacity to overcome: His evolutionary tale, from the embers of one of India's bloodiest communal riots to the centre stage of Indian politics, is a thriller in making the best out of worst situations. To the discerning, it can't be missed that the man who has changed the political conversation of India is careful not to use either the H-word or the M-word. He talks India, and he has been doing so ever since he started his campaign a decade ago. Still, the worthies at the lakeside were eager to formulate an argument to defend the warrior, the chosen one to bring an end to BJP's ten wasted years.

Modi himself, even as he keeps talking to India in a breathless pace from carefully chosen platforms, is yet to build a slogan of change. He debunks and promises. His stump rhetoric is still dominated by the evil trinity of Mother, Son and the Dysfunctional Puppet; and the promise is about India as a larger, Congress-free edition of Gujarat. The argument is still in the making, and Congress has not yet come out with a counterpoint, let alone a counter force to the man who has already covered a long distance in the race to power. Time is on his side, for the elections are still more than seven months away; and towards the end of the year, five Assembly elections will provide a glimpse into the mood of the nation. Modi cannot afford to relax though. He needs a theme to match the sweep and the choreographed perfection of his campaign.

He won the first battle the day he was chosen the candidate. By sheer force of his action, ideas and ambition, he made that day inevitable for the party. For ten years, it was a lone campaign from Gandhinagar in spite of the party, which had the largest collection of prime ministerial wannabes. After the pre-Ayodhya L.K. Advani, no other leader from BJP got this kind of a groundswell of support. The base erupted for him, and the growing legion of disillusioned Indians from corporate boardrooms to middle-class drawing rooms endorsed his idea of a no-nonsense India well governed after the Manmohan Singh years. The challenge for Modi now is to turn the personal triumph of September 13 into a historic moment in 2014.

It is a challenge both physical and emotional: Even as he criss-crosses the treacherous landscape of political India, he has to conquer the mindscape of the nation, say, as Atal Bihari Vajpayee did. The first part is feeding the media frenzy, and the soundbites keep coming. The second part demands reinvention and reconciliation, and Modi is trying hard. The candidate has even started speaking in a more moderate language. Candidate Modi's Mission India is a political project with few parallels in this country.

India is one big constituency

A typical Modi rally today is like a focus group where Brand Modi is being tested. He will also have small, intimate meetings with select groups of firsttime voters (students and youth), women, IT professionals, businessmen and Muslims. He intends to visit madrasas in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Andhra Pradesh to dispel the anti-Muslim, anti-secular tag. "Modiji is very keen to visit at least two-three madrasas and interact with the youth there. He is projected as evil-personified to fuel fear among Muslims. He wants to take the facts to them-facts about the status of minorities in Gujarat and his own brand of non-appeasement and development," reveals a BJP leader involved with the campaign planning. Though the campaign slogans are still not finalised, the general theme will remain 'hope' and a 'Congress-mukt (Congress-free)' India.

The immediate focus will be on states going for Assembly elections later this year-Delhi, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Mizoram. "The Assembly elections will be a bellwether. The campaign plan will be finalised only after dates are announced. It is likely to be a fivephase election, so the party resources will have to be spread out judiciously," says a senior leader. Modi also wants to focus on states that send large number of MPs to Lok Sabha. These include Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra, Bihar and Andhra Pradesh. By giving his trusted lieutenant Amit Shah charge of Uttar Pradesh, which has 80 parliamentary seats, Modi has made it clear that the state will play a crucial role in getting BJP to its declared target of 272-plus seats.

A senior party leader closely associated with the campaign plan says, "Modi's clear message is to make an all-out effort to get a majority on our own. The 272-plus message is being drilled into each and every member, down to the grassroots level." The message on walls in every village across the country will be that of hope and change: 'Nayi soch, nayi ummeed', with Modi's picture. According to this leader, Modi wants to focus on target groups rather than rallies. "Rallies need too much organisation. Modi thinks one-on-ones with smaller groups work better and the cadre is free for door-to-door campaigning and mobilising the youth and first-time voters," the leader adds. Modi possibly cannot do big rallies in more than 100 constituencies. The rallies will have a very specific target audience and slogans. For example, the September 15 ex-servicemen rally in Rewari, Haryana, focused on one rank, one pension. The October 27 rally in Patna will try to consolidate the aspirations of youth.

Woo without appeasement

Modi is aware of his portrayal by the so-called secular lobbies as a polarising figure who continues to instil fear in Muslims. He is determined to kill the image of an anti-Muslim zealot; all the effort now is to become the reconciler, the unifier. He is going all out to spread the message of 'Sadbhavana' across the country. The message to the minority cell in each state is clear: Get Muslims to enrol as BJP members as the first step, and then get them to garner support from the community for Modi as prime minister. Modi's team is preparing publicity material-cum-vision documents aimed at wooing Muslims. He has asked his team to ensure that all his rallies should have a strong, visible Muslim presence. At the September 17 Jaipur rally, Muslims were asked to turn up in skull caps and burqas. A similar directive has been issued for the September 25 rally in Bhopal.

Team Modi is of the view that what is going in his favour is a debate that has begun in a section of highly anti-Modi and orthodox Deobandi Muslims. A small section therein feels that with Modi having a good chance of becoming PM, they should not make an enemy of him, given that he himself has come a long way since 2002, selling his dream of development without discriminating against minorities. This explains Modi's silence on the Muzaffarnagar riots. His aim is to isolate the hawks by making an appeal to the common Muslims through intermediaries and convincing them that minority appeasement is the main cause of communal riots.

Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind leader Mahmood Madani's statement on September 16 hinting that Muslims would engage Modi in case he makes honest moves towards them assumes significance because Madani is an important Deoband leader. On the other hand, Modi has already made some inroads into the moderate Sufi or Barelvi Muslim sections which see him as more acceptable than the Deobandis. On the issue of Ram Mandir in Ayodhya, Modi reportedly made his stand informally clear before party leaders: He will go by the court judgment or a mutually acceptable compromise.

Invest in young India

With as many as 20 per cent voters likely to be first-timers between the age group of 18-22, Modi's plan is to first ensure that they are enrolled in the voters' list and then get them to vote for BJP. Modi and his strategists believe that the youth are most affected by increasing rapes, falling rupee, sinking growth rate, shrinking job opportunities and external threats from Pakistan and China. So the plan is to sell Modi as a strong and visionary leader of a new scientific age who will deliver on all issues.

A team is being organised to use social media as the main weapon in this strategy. Modi's speeches, his landmark economic and development initiatives in all fields including rural development, his detachment from family-a big plus for a leader in an age of dynastic politics-besides a range of other things, will be uploaded on social media. Moreover, at least four huge Vivekanand Youth meets will be planned in major states and many more at district levels by BJP and RSS workers. Modi or a top BJP leader will attend at least two of the four big meets in every state. Such rallies were the backbone of Modi's youth strategy for the 2012 Gujarat Assembly polls.

Modi's team is in the process of carrying out a sensitisation drive to ensure an increase in voter percentage. "If there is an increase of 10 per cent in voting, then we have made it," says senior BJP leader Ananth Kumar. "We don't want to be at the mercy of parties that can blackmail you," says another leader. Booth management is extremely crucial for this. Modi's trusted dotcom poster boys Rajesh Jain{Niticentral owner}, along with B.G. Mahesh, have rolled out the Mission 272-plus for the party, working out a micro-strategy that starts at the booth level. A booth has about 1,000 voters and each parliamentary constituency has about 1,500 to 2,000 booths. BJP will organise conferences where 15-20 workers from each booth will be trained. "The focus for the ground action has to be to 'max the booth', that is to ensure that every voter favourable to the BJP votes on Election Day. If we can win each booth, we can win the constituency," says Jain in one of his presentations. Modi's team is also busy working out strategies to use technology, especially mobile phones, to reach out to the voters. While there are 725 million voters in India, the number of mobile phone connections is 800 million.

Price rise and insecurity in the backdrop of increasing rapes are the twin issues Modi's strategists are going to use to woo women voters, in addition to highlighting Gujarat's success in raising self-help groups. "The past eight years have seen the highest inflation ever. With such facts, Modi won't have to labour much to convince the people that UPA has totally mismanaged the country," says Amit Shah, his close aide.

Win up,win India


BJP's campaign plan in Uttar Pradesh was launched at a meeting of the state core group on September 17 at party President Rajnath Singh's house. Sources say Shah had come prepared with most of the plan. It was decided that the state would be divided into eight campaign zones, and each zone would have at least one mega rally addressed by Modi spread over a 45-day period. Sources say that the biggest rally would be in Lucknow in December, Shah instructing that it should draw more crowds than those of Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) chief Mayawati. Post-Muzzafarnagar riots, the party has decided to look for "suitable candidates for the Lok Sabha polls keeping in mind the social fabric of each constituency".

BJP has not completely given up its Hindutva agenda to cater to its core constituency but plans to keep it low profile. With Samajwadi Party (SP), BSP and Congress demanding job and education reservations for Muslims in Uttar Pradesh in varying percentages which, given the Supreme Court cap of 50 per cent, it would imply cutting the reservation earmarked for OBCs. Modi sees in this an opportunity to woo OBC communities such as Kurmis, Kevats, Nishads, Gujjars, Lodhis and Mauryas.

The OBC vote is Uttar Pradesh is a sizeable 32 per cent. Such is Modi's charisma, his strategists believe, that a substantial number of Yadavs-SP's core vote bank-could also go along with him. Says a top BJP leader, "Over 60 per cent OBCs will vote for us." At the moment, Modi is the sole warrior in the battlefield, and he has already made it a presidential fight: The man is the message. Few candidates with a back story as contentious and inspiring as Modi's have come this far in the race for future in a democracy. The stage has been set for him: Make history or become history.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/candidate-modi-102410667.html
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^Is above LKAji's way of keeping in the limelight?
So far he has shown himself to be a reluctant follower of his party's decision to announce N Modi as the PM candidate for 2014.

What does he mean "majority in the party have taken decision"? He still has some otherwise hopes?
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LKji should realize his brand equity has gone below zero whereas modi is above 10 now, and looking up on the scale of 10.
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