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When hell freezes over.
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Ralph Cramden
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Warning! There are hindu nationalists that live in the US and in India posting on this forum. They are anti-American and totalitarian in philosophy and out look. They support the russians in the Ukraine and Syria and despise the the US. Don't trust anything they say or write. It's pure venom. They are no better than their sworn enemies, the Pakistanis. They are professors and doctors who have lived in the US or,are still living in the US and have grown to loath the US. Warning!!!!!

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-indi ... z2ulpgDJlg
TJ that be you??? :rotfl:
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Coomi Kapoor's latest column:

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... tizenship/

Dual citizenship

Devyani Khobragade is in trouble not just with the US authorities but also with the Ministry of External Affairs. The MEA is keeping silent at the moment pending the resolution of the case in New York against the diplomat over alleged visa fraud and for making false statements regarding salary payments to her former maid Sangeeta Richard. After the squabble over Khobragade’s arrest, the MEA discovered that her two daughters hold dual citizenship. They were entitled to American passports because of their father’s nationality and being born in the US. But they have also been issued Indian passports. This is a clear offence.
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Gus wrote:
Ralph Cramden
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Warning! There are hindu nationalists that live in the US and in India posting on this forum. They are anti-American and totalitarian in philosophy and out look. They support the russians in the Ukraine and Syria and despise the the US. Don't trust anything they say or write. It's pure venom. They are no better than their sworn enemies, the Pakistanis. They are professors and doctors who have lived in the US or,are still living in the US and have grown to loath the US. Warning!!!!!

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-indi ... z2ulpgDJlg
TJ that be you??? :rotfl:
Could be a certain "Ralphy" :D

But what strikes me is the minute someone does something that pisses off the US, or Pakistan for that matter, they are no longer Indians or normal people. They are not even "nationalists" They are Hindu nationalists - those bigoted slave drivers and promoters of the caste system that the black and white people of America know nothing about.
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Something new and interesting (for me anyways) popped into my inbox. Check it out and spread it about..

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American University Prepares for Riots in India

The University of California at Berkeley has set up a project to “create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence” in India.

Their website is http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/rese ... objectives
It is claimed that “The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns”. However, the composition and well-known records of their staff raise some concerns.

The stated aim of the “Armed Conflict Resolution And People's Rights Project”, is “creating a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights”. It is set up by the Center for Nonprofit and Public Leadership at the Haas School of Business, University of California at Berkeley, near San Francisco. The Center is one of two under the Institute for Business and Social Impact under the Haas School. The Center lists 15 faculty. The Center Director is Dr. Nora Silver, listed as an Adjunct Professor at the Haas School. Her own project under the Center deals with Multi-Sector Leadership and Non-Profit Networks.

The Co-Chairs of the Armed Conflict Resolution project are Dr. Shashi Buluswar and Dr. Angana Chatterji. Dr. Buluswar is a Senior Fellow in International Development at the Haas School. He is prominent in the ASHANGO which raises funds for projects in India. He also holds a position as Executive Director of the Lawrence Berkeley Institute for Globally Transformative Technologies. The Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is operated under a Department of Energy contract by the University of California. Dr. Buluswar’s research area at the Haas School of Business is listed as “Armed Conflict in India”. Dr. Chatterji is not on the School’s list of 278 “faculty and executive leadership”.

The project lists a Working Group including Rajvinder Singh Bains, Lawyer, Punjab High Court and Haryana High Court, Mihir Desai, Lawyer, Mumbai High Court and Supreme Court of India, Meenakshi Ganguly, Human Rights Policy Expert and South Asia Director, Human Rights Watch, Parvez Imroz, Lawyer, Jammu & Kashmir High Court and President, Jammu & Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society, Srinagar, Harsh Mander, Director, Center for Equity Studies, Delhi, Jaykumar Menon, Legal Expert and Professor of Practice, McGill University, Binalakshmi Nepram, Founder, Manipur Women Gun Survivors Network, Delhi and Manipur, Sudhir Pattnaik, Human Rights Expert and Editor of Samadrusti, a human rights news magazine, Bhubaneswar, Teesta Setalvad, Secretary, Citizens for Justice and Peace, Mumbai.

Partner institutions include the Institute for the Study of Human Rights; Alliance for Historical Dialogue and Accountability, Columbia University, Asian Legal Resource Center, Hong Kong (holding general consultative status with the Economic and Social Council, United Nations), Asian Human Rights Commission, Hong Kong, Center for Equity Studies, Delhi, Manipur Women Gun Survivors Network, Prashant Center for Human Rights, Justice, and Peace, Gujarat, Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons, Jammu & Kashmir, Khalra Mission Organization, Punjab, Indian American Muslim Council, Asian Federation Against Involuntary Disappearances, Philippines.

Scholar-Affiliates are Paramjit Kaur Khalra, Khalra Mission Organization, Punjab, and Robert Nickelsberg, Photojournalist, New York.

The Project’s Advisory Group includes Amitava Kumar, Vassar College, Homi K. Bhabha, Harvard University, Jyoti Puri, Professor of Sociology, Simmons College, Khurram Parvez, Program Coordinator, Jammu & Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society, Srinagar, Vinay Lal, Associate Professor of History, University of California, Los Angeles.Quoting the project website: The Working Group plans to “engage with affected communities, and periodically engage with members of the Government of India and the Parliament of India”….Opportunities for Students: The project is engaging exceptional graduate students and select undergraduate students from UC Berkeley, Stanford University, other institutions, and from impacted communities in India and the Indian Diaspora in the U.S. The project will engage age-appropriate youth from affected communities in the work of creating archives, experimenting with photography and videography, and documenting remembrance.”

A Few Issues

1. The project list reads like a “Who’s Who” of the Forum of Indian/Inquilabi Leftists (FOIL), and the “Coalition Against Genocide” (CAG), a loose coalition of groups including the FOIL and IAMC. Members of this Coalition have been associated with the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence Agency, and other suspected connections to international organizations as well as political parties, particularly the Indian National Congress, the Communist Party of India (Marxist/Leninist/Maoist) and to Evangelist Christian organizations and their activist arms such as the Christian Aid group. There are some suspected links to foreign terrorist organizations such as the Khalistan groups, the SIMI, through the Indian Muslim Council, the Maoists in India, to secessionist groups active in Jammu-Kashmir, and to interests in Odisha and Chattisgarh. The FOIL and CAG have been studied in articles in the early 2000s, in the book titled “NGOs and Foreign Funding: Anti-National Industry” edited by Kishan Kak and Radha Rajanand a recent report by the Hindu American Foundation. In 1997-2002, Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s “Sabrang” organization channeled funds to the FOIL to develop a “5-year comprehensive research report” that attacked the India Development and Relief Fund. Dr. Angana Chatterji was a primary author of that report. Dr. Vinay Lal was the spokesman for the FOIL. The attack was proven to be baseless. The thorough debunking of that report was published in the book “IDRF: Let the Facts Speak”. Since then, the FOIL has reorganized on several occasions to launch campaigns, generally against India and particularly against the government of Gujarat.

2. It may be useful to remember the past.In October 2001, while the world was in upheaval after the 9/11 attacks in the USA, and Pakistani terrorism was spiking in Kashmir, the Oberlin College Trust in Ohio announced a conference to be held in April 2002, titled: “Siting Secularism in India”. The Oberlin Foundation, a Christian missionary organization, has excellent relations with the Shanxi University in China, with specific approval from the government of the PRC. (see http://shansi.org/about-shansi/history/ for a recently sanitized version). Around that time, the FOIL seemed to have received a sudden influx of funding, and started an active campaign. They hurriedly revived their dormant publication, “Ghadar” citing the urgent need to get organized and conduct a media campaign, since they expected “a loud noise that will be heard around the world” or words to that effect. In January they held a meeting in Maryland, USA. The Siting Secularism in India conference occurred just a few weeks after the events of late February 2002, with many visitors from the US, India, UK and France, most of them with Communist/Islamist leanings. The only business at that conference for which any record can be found, is an Oberlin Resolution condemning the government of India for alleged genocide against minorities. Those who remember this, find the parallels with the present Project to be chilling. We wonder what “loud noise” is anticipated this time. Note that we have no evidence to link any of these entities directly to any violence, and are not claiming any. However, their apparent foresight and timing seem remarkable.

3. Dr. Angana Chatterji’s activities and visits in India have perhaps coincidentally, preceded violence in the parts where she focused her activities. Examples are Gujarat, Chattisgarh, Odisha, and Jammu-Kashmir.

4. Circa 2010, Dr. Chatterji and her US citizen husband Dr. Richard Shapiro, were asked to terminate their visit to Jammu-Kashmir. Shapiro was asked to leave India, and later denied a visa to enter India.

5. On July 19, 2011, Ghulam Nabi Fai, Kashmir activist in the USA, was indicted in US Federal Court for being an agent of the Pakistani ISI. The indictment listed his contacts with/ funding of a woman code-named “Mary” for making a presentation before a UN panel, presenting the Pakistani point of view on Jammu-Kashmir. In May 2011, Dr. Chatterji made a presentation to a UN Panel to raise Kashmir issues. On July 19, 2011, the California Institute for Integral Studies suspended Drs. Chatterji and Shapiro, tenured full professors (he was Department Head), citing financial and other irregularities. Both were later dismissed after faculty hearings. CIIS denied any link to their outside activities.

6. Although the project claims to develop policies and protocols for nations around the world, there is no indication of any activities directed at any nation other than India.

7. The project claims interest in various troubled parts of India, including Jammu-Kashmir, Odisha, Chattisgarh, the Northeast, and Punjab. The inclusion of Teesta Setalwad and Harsh Mander suggest that the main interest is in Gujarat. Ms. Setalwad has several allegations filed against her in India and has sought anticipatory bail again. Mr. Mander, during and after his tenure as IAS officer, has a history of association with the British NGO Action Aid, which shares origins and close synergy with Christian Aid, which is active in conversions in the tribal regions of Gujarat and elsewhere in India.

8. The Lok Sabha elections in India are only two and a half months away.


Some Questions
1. Who is sponsoring this project?

2. Who are the Members of the Indian Parliament and other lawmakers in India that this project intends to “engage” or co-opt? Have they already been approached and have they agreed? Are they also sponsoring it?

3. Given the background of Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s fundraising and past activities, is the Congress Party funding this enterprise as well?

4. Why are such Protocols and Policies for India, the largest sovereign democracy in the world, being developed in America, and by a group that has a clearly one-sided political bias and record?

5. Why is a person whose primary employment is with a US Federal Laboratory focused on bringing science to public welfare, engaged in such a project which has clear overtones and undertones of interfering in the politics/public policy dealing with internal armed conflict of a friendly foreign nation?

6. Why is this project within Dr. Buluswar’s or the LBNL’s mandate?

7. Why is this project dealing with making protocols for armed conflict, sited within a Business School?

8. Why is the staffing of such a project done exclusively with people who have such a colored record, with no effort to strike a balance between law enforcement interests and secessionist/subversive interests?

9. Is the University of California, Berkeley, aware of Dr. Angana Chatterji’s prior activities involving Kashmir and the United Nations, among others?


APPENDIX: Quotes from the website
http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/rese ... ml#Network

“This project seeks to create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence. Interdisciplinary in practice and rooted in local knowledge, this project seeks to define steps in conflict resolution through capacity building for psychosocial healing and the amelioration of abuses. In so doing, we contend with the condition of violence and the contested terrain of human rights and transitional justice.

India serves as a case in point, given that several diverse parts of the country are beset by armed conflict. Civilian populations—especially children, youth, women and minorities—suffer in the absence of adequate governance, access to responsible development, and the preservation of human rights.

The National Human Rights Commission of India, in its submission to the UN Human Rights Council for India’s Second Universal Periodic Review (2008), stated: “There are inordinate delays in the provision of justice... There is still no national action plan for human rights.”

Drawing on international, regional, and local expertise, the project aims to develop two inter-related but separate outputs: a Policy document and several Protocols.

Contemporary conflicts and transitional contexts will inform the development of this policy and the protocols.

The regions of Jammu & Kashmir, Manipur, and Chhattisgarh are differently but persistently affected by conflict, with conflict-related issues intermittently occurring in Punjab. Additionally, areas such as Gujarat and Odisha have been impacted by far-reaching violence on minority communities in recent history.

These conflicts are spurred by a myriad of issues, including cultural and communal identity, religionization, self-determination, and economic empowerment. Such conflicts can have far-reaching human impact and lead to intense psychosocial and economic suffering of civilian populations in the affected areas, collapse of responsible governance, development, and social protection mechanisms, and can also have a broader disruptive effect impacting national, regional, and global security.

The importance of this project lies in the fact that nothing close to a policy framework with attendant protocols currently exists in India that protects civilians and their rights in areas of armed conflict and mass violence, in a way that is consistent with India’s legal, ethical, and constitutional obligations, even as brutal conflicts and suffering continue.

If such a policy framework is adopted in India, and appropriate technical protocols are implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations, it would serve as a model for other countries.”



Objectives

In the development of the Policy and Protocols, this project will focus on questions of transitional and transformative justice.

These questions pertain to issues of access to justice and conflict resolution; accountability and human rights; governance and the rule of law; gendered violence; minority rights; religious freedom; memory and healing; commitment to nonviolence; mechanisms for restitution and redressal; and people’s rights and humanitarian considerations during and after conflict; as well as multi-sectoral approaches, including involving education technology and social enterprise, toward inclusive development.

Policy and Protocols:

The Policy will be a document proposing a general course of action with the long-term goal of justice and stability across the country.

The Protocols --blueprints of standards and steps for accountability and reparation pertaining to healing through reparatory, transitional, and transformative justice in areas of current conflict and post-conflict--will be specific to the issues presented by various conflicts in India. Topics of the protocols will include:

• Gendered violence and human rights during armed conflict and massified violence.
• Casualties and missing persons.
• Supporting survivors through holding all parties to the conflict accountable (army, paramilitary, police, and non-state armed groups).
• Impunity laws and failures of legal justice.
• Historical dialogue and alliance-building.
• Social trauma, memory, and psychosocial restitution.
• Humanitarian and socioeconomic development, such as women’s health, and access to education.

In the course of producing these outputs, the project will involve those affected by conflict in conceiving redress. It will initiate cross-cultural dialogue. The project will facilitate remembrance and documentation, and undertake to create an archive and web-based memorialization installations. It will involve progressive civil society and the next generation in India, the Diaspora, and the global community in dialogue on peace, nonviolence, and justice. The project will initiate pilot processes through which to identify mechanisms for psychosocial restitution and humanitarian efforts.

The project will draw on diverse and plural imaginations of rights and justice in local, customary, and global traditions, in creating a framework for acknowledgement and remorse, accountability and justice, and healing and restitution.

The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns.”
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shiv wrote:But what strikes me is the minute someone does something that pisses off the US, or Pakistan for that matter, they are no longer Indians or normal people. They are not even "nationalists" They are Hindu nationalists - those bigoted slave drivers and promoters of the caste system that the black and white people of America know nothing about.
This following is off-topic in a sense, but on-topic in another sense. This is a blog conversation with an American, avatar CIP.

In my main post, I point out that the Catholic doctrine of transubstantion and the practice of Mass would make them into ritual cannibals, but that is not how western academics write about them. And I wrote in subsequent comments,
"And this is the type of book academics write: http://books.google.com/books?id=1BWORikfM-0C (The Poetics of Transubstantiation), rather than converting European culture into that of a race of sublimated cannibals. "
This drew an immediate charge of racism from CIP. This is a guy I've been "talking to" for years, and yet suddenly my previously undetected racism is becoming manifest? On inquiry, it turned out he did not like "...race of sublimated cannibals". My reply included:
Which I tire of repeating, is the analog of what Wendy and her Children do to Hindus in their writings. I have no desire of terming European culture as (that of) a race of sublimated cannibals. But that is what I must do if Wendy Doniger, Jeffrey Kripal, Paul Courtright, etc, are the standard of scholarship.
All I can say, is - illuminating. My own delusions - I have shed a lot of them. Everyone wonders about meeting alien intelligent life from another planet. Our human cultures are actually alien to each other, we only have the illusion of understanding cultures other than our own because of the underlying common humanness.
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^^
Any url I can see firsthand?
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http://arunsmusings.blogspot.com/2014/0 ... ademy.html

if you were asking for my URL, shiv, it is the above.
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UlanBatori wrote:
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Me 2!!
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New exhibit in the Smithsonian:
Beyond Bollywood: Indian Americans Shape the Nation
"Beyond Bollywood: Indian Americans Shape the Nation" is the Smithsonian's first major exhibit to examine the history of Indian immigration to the United States and the influence of Indian-Americans.

It's a story that dates to the first Indians arriving in 1790, those who helped build the nation's railroads and farms, and those who fought for citizenship when immigration from Asia was discouraged. There are also plenty of more recent contributions of leading Indian-American writers, entertainers, athletes and a fashion designer favored by first lady Michelle Obama.
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A_Gupta wrote:http://arunsmusings.blogspot.com/2014/0 ... ademy.html

if you were asking for my URL, shiv, it is the above.
Should we call Americans - a functionally illiterate race of sublimated cannibals?
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A folowup post to the "American University prepares for riots in India" on the Kalyanaraman blog site:

http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2014/ ... armed.html

This one gets into the background and profiles of the players behind the Berkeley project.

Reproducing in full, because, well, you never know...
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Peoples' rights provocateurs and armed conflict resolvers -- profiles.

The key statement is here: "... technical protocols... implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations, it would serve as a model for other countries."

In American idiom, this can be countered: Don't fix things that ain't broke. Mind your business. Don't make India an American academic guinea pig for armed conflicts.

It is time for Capitol Hill and Whitehouse to re-evaluate purpose of 'scholarly' American traditions while engaging in 'Hindu studies'.

American academe, mind your own business of education. Don't step on India's toes. Don't try to make a model for your protocols of armed conflicts.

This is a follow-up of http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2014/ ... riots.html American University prepares for riots in India. Should this be called academic research activism?

On further deliberation, the University research project in collaboration with an affiliate apparent 'science' outfit called Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is clearly an interference in the internal affairs of an independent, sovereign nation -- India.

The usual cover for the covert initiative is human rights and conflict resolution.

Why does it take an American institution to be uninvited guests for resolution of an imagined conflict? Shouldn't Obama administration get concerned that such parallel academic interventions undermine the US foreign policy and the imperative of maintaining peaceful, friendly relations with a nation with over 1250 million people striding an Indian Ocean Rim with over 59 nations which live under the traditions of dharma-dhamma?

Has American academe forgotten the wisdom imparted by the great American historian: Will Durant? Will Durant who authored a 11-volume history of philosophy and narrated the story of civilizations observed: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all". See more at: http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2014/ ... ill+durant

The analyses of the American University project are presented in two parts: 1. A Few issues; 2. Some Questions

We hope that the deliberations will be joined by many citizens of the world elaborating further on the issues and answering some questions raised.

Part 1: A Few Issues
1. The project list reads like a “Who’s Who” of the Forum of Indian/Inquilabi Leftists (FOIL), and the “Coalition Against Genocide”(CAG), a loose coalition of groups including the FOIL and IAMC. Members of this Coalition have been associated with the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence Agency, and other suspected connections to international organizations as well as political parties, particularly the Indian National Congress, the Communist Party of India (Marxist/Leninist/Maoist) and to Evangelist Christian organizations and their activist arms such as the Christian Aid group. There are some suspected links to foreign terrorist organizations such as the Khalistan groups, the SIMI, through the Indian Muslim Council, the Maoists in India, to secessionist groups active in Jammu-Kashmir, and to interests in Odisha and Chattisgarh. The FOIL and CAG have been studied in articles in the early 2000s, in the book titled “NGOs and Foreign Funding: Anti-National Industry” edited by Kishan Kak and Radha Rajan and a recent report by the Hindu American Foundation. In 1997-2002, Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s “Sabrang” organization channeled funds to the FOIL to develop a “5-year comprehensive research report” that attacked the India Development and Relief Fund. Dr. Angana Chatterji was a primary author of that report. Dr. Vinay Lal was the spokesman for the FOIL. The attack was proven to be baseless. The thorough debunking of that report was published in the book “IDRF: Let the Facts Speak”. Since then, the FOIL has reorganized on several occasions to launch campaigns, generally against India and particularly against the government of Gujarat.
2. It may be useful to remember the past. In October 2001, while the world was in upheaval after the 9/11 attacks in the USA, and Pakistani terrorism was spiking in Kashmir, the Oberlin College Trust in Ohio announced a conference to be held in April 2002, titled: “Siting Secularism in India”. The Oberlin Foundation, a Christian missionary organization, has excellent relations with the Shanxi University in China, with specific approval from the government of the PRC. (see http://shansi.org/about-shansi/history/ for a recently sanitized version). Around that time, the FOIL seemed to have received a sudden influx of funding, and started an active campaign. They hurriedly revived their dormant publication, “Ghadar” citing the urgent need to get organized and conduct a media campaign, since they expected “a loud noise that will be heard around the world” or words to that effect. In January they held a meeting in Maryland, USA. The Siting Secularism in India conference occurred just a few weeks after the events of late February 2002, with many visitors from the US, India, UK and France, most of them with Communist/Islamist leanings. The only business at that conference for which any record can be found, is an Oberlin Resolution condemning the government of India for alleged genocide against minorities. Those who remember this, find the parallels with the present Project to be chilling. We wonder what “loud noise” is anticipated this time. Note that we have no evidence to link any of these entities directly to any violence, and are not claiming any. However, their apparent foresight and timing seem remarkable.
3. Dr. Angana Chatterji’s activities and visits in India have perhaps coincidentally, preceded violence in the parts where she focused her activities. Examples are Gujarat, Chattisgarh, Odisha, and Jammu-Kashmir.
4. Circa 2010, Dr. Chatterji and her US citizen husband Dr. Richard Shapiro, were asked to terminate their visit to Jammu-Kashmir. Shapiro was asked to leave India, and later denied a visa to enter India.
5. On July 19, 2011, GhulamNabi Fai, Kashmir activist in the USA, was indicted in US Federal Court for being an agent of the Pakistani ISI. The indictment listed his contacts with/ funding of a woman code-named “Mary” for making a presentation before a UN panel, presenting the Pakistani point of view on Jammu-Kashmir. In May 2011, Dr. Chatterji made a presentation to a UN Panel to raise Kashmir issues. On July 19, 2011, the California Institute for Integral Studies suspended Drs. Chatterji and Shapiro, tenured full professors (he was Department Head), citing financial and other irregularities. Both were later dismissed after faculty hearings. CIIS denied any link to their outside activities.
6. Although the project claims to develop policies and protocols for nations around the world, there is no indication of any activities directed at any nation other than India.
7. The project claims interest in various troubled parts of India, including Jammu-Kashmir, Odisha, Chattisgarh, the Northeast, and Punjab. The inclusion of Teesta Setalwad and Harsh Mander suggest that the main interest is in Gujarat. Ms. Setalwad has several allegations filed against her in India and has sought anticipatory bail again. Mr. Mander, during and after his tenure as IAS officer, has a history of association with the British NGO Action Aid, which shares origins and close synergy with Christian Aid, which is active in conversions in the tribal regions of Gujarat and elsewhere in India.
8. The Lok Sabha elections in India are only two and a half months away.
Part 2: Some Questions
1. Who is sponsoring this project?
2. Who are the Members of the Indian Parliament and other lawmakers in India that this project intends to “engage” or co-opt? Have they already been approached and have they agreed? Are they also sponsoring it?
3. Given the background of Ms. Teesta Setalwad’s fundraising and past activities, is the Congress Party funding this enterprise as well?
4. Why are such Protocols and Policies for India, the largest sovereign democracy in the world, being developed in America, and by a group that has a clearly one-sided political bias and record?
5. Why is a person whose primary employment is with a US Federal Laboratory focused on bringing science to public welfare, engaged in such a project which has clear overtones and undertones of interfering in the politics/public policy dealing with internal armed conflict of a friendly foreign nation?
6. Why is this project within Dr. Buluswar’s or the LBNL’s mandate?
7. Why is this project dealing with making protocols for armed conflict, sited within a Business School?
8. Why is the staffing of such a project done exclusively with people who have such a colored record, with no effort to strike a balance between law enforcement interests and secessionist/subversive interests?
9. Is the University of California, Berkeley, aware of Dr. Angana Chatterji’s prior activities involving Kashmir and the United Nations, among others?

APPENDIX: Quotes from the website
http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/rese ... ml#Network
“This project seeks to create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence. Interdisciplinary in practice and rooted in local knowledge, this project seeks to define steps in conflict resolution through capacity building for psychosocial healing and the amelioration of abuses. In so doing, we contend with the condition of violence and the contested terrain of human rights and transitional justice.
India serves as a case in point, given that several diverse parts of the country are beset by armed conflict. Civilian populations—especially children, youth, women and minorities—suffer in the absence of adequate governance, access to responsible development, and the preservation of human rights.
The National Human Rights Commission of India, in its submission to the UN Human Rights Council for India’s Second Universal Periodic Review (2008), stated: “There are inordinate delays in the provision of justice... There is still no national action plan for human rights.”
Drawing on international, regional, and local expertise, the project aims to develop two inter-related but separate outputs: a Policy document and several Protocols.
Contemporary conflicts and transitional contexts will inform the development of this policy and the protocols.
The regions of Jammu & Kashmir, Manipur, and Chhattisgarh are differently but persistently affected by conflict, with conflict-related issues intermittently occurring in Punjab. Additionally, areas such as Gujarat and Odisha have been impacted by far-reaching violence on minority communities in recent history.
These conflicts are spurred by a myriad of issues, including cultural and communal identity, religionization, self-determination, and economic empowerment. Such conflicts can have far-reaching human impact and lead to intense psychosocial and economic suffering of civilian populations in the affected areas, collapse of responsible governance, development, and social protection mechanisms, and can also have a broader disruptive effect impacting national, regional, and global security.
The importance of this project lies in the fact that nothing close to a policy framework with attendant protocols currently exists in India that protects civilians and their rights in areas of armed conflict and mass violence, in a way that is consistent with India’s legal, ethical, and constitutional obligations, even as brutal conflicts and suffering continue.
If such a policy framework is adopted in India, and appropriate technical protocols are implemented with the aid and participation of civil society and affected populations, it would serve as a model for other countries.”

Objectives
In the development of the Policy and Protocols, this project will focus on questions of transitional and transformative justice.
These questions pertain to issues of access to justice and conflict resolution; accountability and human rights; governance and the rule of law; gendered violence; minority rights; religious freedom; memory and healing; commitment to nonviolence; mechanisms for restitution and redressal; and people’s rights and humanitarian considerations during and after conflict; as well as multi-sectoral approaches, including involving education technology and social enterprise, toward inclusive development.
Policy and Protocols:
The Policy will be a document proposing a general course of action with the long-term goal of justice and stability across the country.
The Protocols --blueprints of standards and steps for accountability and reparation pertaining to healing through reparatory, transitional, and transformative justice in areas of current conflict and post-conflict--will be specific to the issues presented by various conflicts in India. Topics of the protocols will include:
· Gendered violence and human rights during armed conflict and massified violence.
· Casualties and missing persons.
· Supporting survivors through holding all parties to the conflict accountable (army, paramilitary, police, and non-state armed groups).
· Impunity laws and failures of legal justice.
· Historical dialogue and alliance-building.
· Social trauma, memory, and psychosocial restitution.
· Humanitarian and socioeconomic development, such as women’s health, and access to education.
In the course of producing these outputs, the project will involve those affected by conflict in conceiving redress. It will initiate cross-cultural dialogue. The project will facilitate remembrance and documentation, and undertake to create an archive and web-based memorialization installations. It will involve progressive civil society and the next generation in India, the Diaspora, and the global community in dialogue on peace, nonviolence, and justice. The project will initiate pilot processes through which to identify mechanisms for psychosocial restitution and humanitarian efforts.
The project will draw on diverse and plural imaginations of rights and justice in local, customary, and global traditions, in creating a framework for acknowledgement and remorse, accountability and justice, and healing and restitution.
The project will avoid taking positions on political questions, focusing instead on human rights and humanitarian concerns.”

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On further deliberation, the University research project in collaboration with an affiliate apparent 'science' outfit called Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is clearly an interference in the internal affairs of an independent, sovereign nation -- India.
The usual cover for the covert initiative is human rights and conflict resolution.
Why does it take an American institution to be uninvited guests for resolution of an imagined conflict? Shouldn't Obama administration get concerned that such parallel academic interventions undermine the US foreign policy and the imperative of maintaining peaceful, friendly relations with a nation with over 1250 million people striding an Indian Ocean Rim with over 59 nations which live under the traditions of dharma-dhamma?
Maybe the answers are:
1. The conflict is not "imagined": they will "help" generate it. Look at the history of Mossadegh, Iran.
2. The usual cover is "human rights". Start a civil war, then point to the atrocities on just one side. As seen in Serbia, Ukraine, Syria...
3. What imperative of peaceful, friendly relations? The stock price of Halliburton Reconstructions Inc depends on there being a stream of countries to "reconstruct".
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Look at this strange report on a report
WASHINGTON: There is a striking omission of any reference to Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi in the annual US Human Rights report for 2013 released this week, compared to previous such accounts. But US officials maintained on Friday that there is no change in Washington's position regarding the 2002 communal riots
Huh???? :?: Notice that the report on a report is being reported by INDIAN media.
I am waiting for shiv's analysis of this news report.
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^Yup, so now they consider Modi subhuman maybe. Which is why his alleged crimes don't find mention in the 'human' rights report (lahori logic I know but hey, who's counting anyway?)
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That was extremely illuminating.
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Interesting reasoning.

And he was released.
Over the course of many hours of debriefings, Fai provided truthful and helpful information with respect to some areas of inquiry, including the financing of the KAC by the ISI, and the use of straw donors by Zaheer Ahmad to arrange the transfer of ISI money to the KAC," Kromberg said.

“At least in part as a result of Fai’s information, one of the straw donors signed an agreement November 4, to plead guilty to a tax conspiracy involving asserting deductions for transfers to the KAC that were reimbursed by Ahmad in Pakistan. That plea agreement has yet to be entered in court.”

“As a result of Fai’s information, indictments were returned in the district November 7 against Abdul Akif, Saeed Bajwa, Javed Rehmat, and another individual who has yet to be arrested,” he added.

District Judge Liam O’Grady of Virginia, said in his order November 22, “Upon consideration of the government’s motion for reduction of sentence and... after having found that the defendant has rendered substantial assistance to the government, it is accordingly ordered that the government’s motion for reduction of sentence is granted.” O’Grady added, “This was a difficult case when it came before me for sentencing. Fai, although conflicted as to what he was doing, lost his way and took funds that he shouldn’t have, committed a serious offense.” Fai was arrested on July 19, 2011, for concealing the transfer of $3.5 million from the ISI to fund his illegal lobbying efforts that sought to influence the US government with regard to the Kashmir imbroglio. This was in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
Here's the full document

Others who have been helping make India more secure (for the ISI)

More people interested in India's internal security

And more..
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Seek and Ye Shall Find! Investigative Team Report, United States of America vs. Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai
The parties stipulate that the allegations in the Criminal Information and the following facts are true and correct, and that had the matter gone to trial the United States would have proven them beyond a reasonable doubt
...1. From approximately 1990, and continuing thereafter until approximately July 18, 2011, in the Eastern District of Virginia and elsewhere, defendant GHULAM NABI FAI unlawfully and knowingly conspired with others to (a) falsify, conceal, and cover up material facts they had a duty to disclose by tricks, schemes and devices, in matters within the jurisdiction of the agencies of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, in violation of Section 1001 of Title 18 of
the United States Code; and (b) defraud the United States Department of the Treasury by impeding, impairing, obstructing and defeating the lawful functions of the Internal Revenue Service in the ascertainment, computation, assessment, and collection of the revenue.
2. The purpose of the scheme to conceal and falsify was to obtain money from officials employed by the Government of Pakistan, including the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate ("ISI"), for the operation of the Kashmiri American Council ("KAC")
75. On March 15,2011, FAI sent an email to Butt advising him that an individual referred to here as "Mary" would be testifying in front of a United Nations working group. Mary is a human rights activist; Major General Mumtaz Ahmad Bajwa had requested that FAI introduce him to Mary in July 2009. The next day, Butt asked FAI to provide Butt with information about the hearing. On March 26,
2011, FAI responded to Butt's request with an email that described Mary's testimony before the U.N. working group. On March 28,2011, Butt wrote back to FAI with several questions, commenting that he needed additional information to "complete my update for elders." FAI knew that Butt was briefing FAI's information up his chain of command, and that his information had a greater audience than just Butt.
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What it shows is how discredited this Berkeley group is and someone who has more gravitas than me should point this out to the mandarins of Berkeley, as it risks tarnishing them. With three degrees of separation we get to Dan Burton. How lower can one sink?
It might be interested to look at whether visas have been granted to them prior to this year and to have them revoked. As for the resident gungadins, those with dual nationalities can be taxed or have their citizenship revoked a la Snowden.
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And what happened to end all this fun on July 18, 2011??

a) He was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on July 19, 2011, for concealing transfer of USD 3.5 million from Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to fund his illegal lobbying efforts and influence the U.S. government on the Kashmir conflict in violation of Foreign Agents Registration Act.

b) Purely coincidental: At a San Francisco garbage dump:
On July 19, 2011, Professor Angana Chatterji and Professor Richard Shapiro were suspended by the Academic Vice President (AVP) at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS).
TOTALLY COINCIDENTAL:
Angana P. Chatterji, Brief on Human Rights Issues: Submission to a United Nations Working Group (Srinagar, March 2011), 11 pages.
Utterly coincidental:
(Angana) Chatterji has served on human rights commissions, offered expert testimony on cases, testified at briefings and hearings, including to United Nations Bodies, the European Parliament Human Rights Subcommittee, United Kingdom Parliament, and United States Congressional Commissions and Task Forces. Chatterji co-founded the International People’s Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Kashmir with Parvez Imroz in 2008 and was its co-convener between 2008-2012. Between 2008-2012, the Tribunal documented human rights violations and witness/survivor testimonies related states of exception, disappearances, gendered violences, torture, extrajudicial killings, unknown and mass graves.
Groups and Associations:

Chatterji serves on the board of directors of Vasundhara. She has previously served on the advisory boards of the Kashmir Initiative at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University, and Green Institute, and the board of directors of the International Rivers Network, Earth Island Institute, and Community Forestry International.
Press Releases on the 800,000,000,000 rapes daily by the 1,700,000,000 Indian troops in Kashmir


And more concern for riots in India, specifically Orissa
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Most likely she was directly supended from the CIIS for consorting with FAI and the ISI. And doing their work without registering as a 'foreign agent'.
Further she is the most likely "Mary".
Looks like she is theri!*

*crooked.
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ramana, how CAN U? :eek: :((

The Free Biscuit Institute does not advertise impending arrests etc. So the July 19 2011 Fai-event must have come as TOTAL surprise to CIIS admins. So what they did on July 19 2011 HAD to be TOTALLY unconnected from ANYTHING to do with the ISI. The two visitors in the unmarked white car that parked next to a parking meter without paying a couple of weeks before, and the campus police just ignored them, were just there to check out the status of their Nuclear Attack Preparedness SOP* and have a chai-biscoot, nothing else.

*In case of nuclear attack, put your head between your knees and kiss ur a** goodbye
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http://www.ciis.edu/About_CIIS/Trustees.html

Dont understand how they got into FAIology of Cashmere.

Will ask them one of these days and how AC got the order of the boot.
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And a big thanks to all who worte on the LA Times article drivel and exposed the fallacy in it.

Including you Ralphy!
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Ramana: See under the url (b) above. Pretty-much confirms about the Effect Of Vijit-e-FreeBiscoots. But I personally agree with that protest: they should have had the guts to call a spade a spade and a paki a paki, instead of doing the equivalent of putting Jack the Ripper in jail for jaywalking. Wonder what was in the Settlement of December 2012, or Jan, 2013 - I saw something like that in the Wikipedia article.

Very troubling that the Faculty Panel confirmed the firing. Of course they were just Ass-osculate Dean wannanes.
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ramana wrote:And a big thanks to all who worte on the LA Times article drivel and exposed the fallacy in it.

Including you Ralphy!
Ramana, are the comments now deleted? I see '0' comments there.
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Comments are still there. Need to muck around to enable the comments to be viewed.

The Swede, sleeping aid and Hari Om were on a roll.
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ok :)
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BTW, this CIIS group along with Steve Farmer's Eurasia review are all komrades-in-arms, and they do a lot of work for "under-represented" this and that and "community" organizin'. Here is a list (taken from https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Ind ... pics/15506
Affected MA and PhD students are of diverse backgrounds. The department has approximately 49% students 'of color'� and 68% that are LBGTQIQ identified, with, and many students from working class backgrounds. A significant majority of the students of the Department insist that their education continue with Professors Chatterji and Shapiro and demand administrative accountability.

Students in the Anthropology Department use their education and scholarship to focus on social activism around the globe. Students' academic and scholarly foci include:

�� Social and health disparities in the Watts community of Los Angeles, California

�� Education reform in communities of queer youth in California

�� Refugee rights in Southeast Asia

�� Enforced and involuntary disappearances in Afro-Colombian communities in Colombia

�� Feminization of labor and its effects on women's groups in Matagalpa, Nicaragua

�� Indigenous rights, militarization, and birthing issues :rotfl: in Israel-Palestine

�� Displacement and poverty in rural communities in Haiti

�� Gender politics in Afghanistan

�� Patriarchy and U.S. national policies

�� Mental health issues in the U.S.

�� Ecological sustainability in Brazil

�� Cultural politics of overseas charitable funding by U.S.-based Hindu nationalist groups

�� The prison industrial complex and the criminalization of immigrants in the U.S.

�� The constitution of indigeneity, cultural survival, and the role of scarcity in the U.S. Federal Recognition Process

�� Reproductive justice and youth advocacy in the U.S.

�� State violence against Roma communities in Europe
But absolutely zilch about Tibet, Xinkiang or Land of the pure. Pei Wu and Jessica Hsu Quien?

Quite suprising, or not, as they are komlades aftel arr!
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68% that are LBGTQIQ identified
birthing issues
Hmmmmm!!!! There's clearly an issue here, no pun intended.
Reminds me of the story of the Admiral's Daughter and her new sailor bridegroom on their honeymoon, with the story that ends in
WHAT! And fill the whole ******* house with brats????
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Reading the bios of all these openly Marxist and Socialist comrades (incl. one Snehal Singhavi at UT Austin now), they all have "community organizer" in their list of achievements. Only now do I understand the right wing rage in the US against that particular line in Obama's resume. Never had understood why they harped on it so much, or heaped as much ridicule on it.
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"Organizing a community" is part of Social Work curriculum. The projects are all worthy if done under somebody other than the agenda pushing ideologues like Dr. Chatterji and Dr. Shapiro couple.
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Follow up on DK Affair

Devyani Khobragade’s husband to join teaching faculty at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi
WASHINGTON, DC: Devyani Khobragade scored a small victory in her ongoing diplomatic saga when her husband, Aakash Singh Rathore, was offered and subsequently accepted a job to teach at Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) in New Delhi, thus reuniting Khobragade with her husband and two young children.
Read in full for other details, some of which may be inaccurate.
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Post Devyani Khobragade affair, top US diplomat to visit India next week

Nisha Desai Biswal, the Indian-origin US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, will visit Bangalore and New Delhi during March 4-6.

She will seek to broaden and deepen the bilateral relationship, which President Barack Obama has called "one of the defining partnerships of the 21st century".

"The breadth and quality of our strategic partnership with India attests to the underlying strength and salience of our relations," Ms Biswal said.

Ms Biswal had planned to visit India in January but the trip had to be postponed over the diplomatic row caused by the US arresting Ms Khobragade on visa fraud charges in December.

On March 4, she will meet government and business leaders in Bangalore to discuss joint efforts to foster innovation, increase hi-tech and engineering engagement, and strengthen economic ties.

From Bangalore, Ms Biswal will travel to New Delhi, where she will meet senior Indian officials to discuss the full range of bilateral and regional issues, including shared defence, security, and economic engagement across the Indo-Pacific corridor, the State Department said.

On March 6, Ms Biswal will deliver remarks on the US-India economic relationship at the American Centre in New Delhi.

"The United States is proud to partner with India on virtually every field of human endeavour, from innovative solutions to poverty and disease to space exploration, from counter terrorism and security cooperation to higher education and people-to-people ties," Ms Biswal said.

"I look forward to discussing these and other issues that are vital to the well-being of our two peoples," she said in a statement.

"She is going to meet the government officials, and it is - mostly the focus is on the economic cooperation and all," State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki said.
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US wants to repair relationship with India after diplomatic spat
"The Secretary (John Kerry) is sending with her (Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Nisha Desai Biswal) a message that this relationship is important," State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said on Monday.

Biswal, the Indian-origin US diplomat, is on her maiden trip to India in her current position during 4-6 March.

"We want to move past disagreements we've had because we have so many issues that are important for us to work closely on. So that is the purpose of her trip. But obviously, she has an expansive itinerary while she's there," Psaki said. During the trip, Biswal would be travelling to Bangalore and then to New Delhi.

Another Visit by US Official.

India hardens stance against U.S. protectionism ahead of visits
U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz is also due to travel to India next week. His visit was also postponed because of the diplomatic row.
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In fact it was in USA where the whole 'spat' occurred, not in india. It is USA that hasn't ratified international diplomatic treaties and it is in USA that litigation is still ongoing. So what will Indians need to do here to 'repair' what is going on in new York which is surely an 'international' more than bilateral issue.
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That's because India doesn't have a Putin to say
U broke it u fix it

The GOI hasn't even moved against the scofflaw American Embassy School!!!
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