Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-370 goes missing

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Search for missing aircraft above politics: Hishamuddin
He urged everyone to put their differences aside to unite and devote all attention towards the search of the aircraft.
"I would like to state the search for MH370 is bigger than politics.

"I urge all Malaysians to put our differences aside and unite during this difficukt time as we focus on finding the aircraft and 239 people on baord," he said in a press conference at the Sama Sama Hotel here earlier.
Under the guise of telling malaysians, this I believe is a taunt for India. I know malays are quite nice people and they usually don't mean harm, but they are not strong and are unprepared to handle such international scenarios. And I am sure "someone else" is "guiding" them at every step. We need to be careful here.
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sattili wrote:While Chinese are at it..someone should tell them to look at thick forests of Vietnam and Cambodia as well.
+1. I too am saying this for a long time. Searching rainforest is as daunting as searching ocean. Also the forests are so dense they can hide the entire crashed plane under the cover of tall trees.
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The southern arc cuts off at where they assume the a/c might get to if it was flying at top speed and used up all its fuel. There is supposedly some leeway in the fuel consumption - with a 30-60 min more of fuel. Maybe that is where RAN/NTSB are getting their search area from.

The allegation that Hishamuddin is being protected on account of his connection to PM Razak is very suggestive that Hishamuddin screwed up. If this is a hijack and Hishamuddin botched the negotiations, then he would need protection.
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/the-curious-ca ... 45538.html
KUALA LUMPUR: Captain Zaharie Ahmed Shah, the commander of the Malaysia Airlines aircraft that went missing with 239 people aboard, had shown striking behavioural changes hours before he flew the plane. Investigations by the TVTN revealed that Captain Zaharie, who normally wished the Nepali security guards posted outside his colony in Laman Seri with a Muslim style of salutation as if saying salaam, saluted the guards in a military style on the fateful night.

“There was a striking change in the way he had saluted us that night,” said one of the guards on condition of anonymity, adding, “it was very unlike him”. Another abnormal thing noticed that night was that Zaharie used his own BMW 5 series car to commute to the airport.

Normally he used to take the airline cab for going to the airport before international flights. The cab arrived at his colony gate almost 20 minutes after he had left for the airport.

Another interesting angle that night was that he was accompanied by his wife in his car around 9 pm. Interestingly, his wife did not return home that night. She only returned on Saturday morning, almost a week after the suspected hijack.

Her visit to the posh Laman Seri house with lush green surroundings was followed by her son. Zaharie’s son is settled abroad and came to the house at around 2 pm on Saturday. He was weeping at the gate when the security guards tried to verify his antecedents over telecom from the colony’s security guardroom.

Investigation Sources said he was accompanied by three teams of Malaysian intelligence officials, who went with him to the house to carry out searches. Malaysian intelligence agencies are trying to look into Zaharie and other crew members’ political and religious affiliations.

Some media reports had suggested that Zaharie had affiliation with the leader of Opposition Anwar Ibrahim. A day before the plane vanished, Ibrahim was convicted of sodomy and sentenced to five years in prison. Zaharie is said to have attended proceedings of the trial. However, Ibrahim’s party refuted the allegation, describing them as highly ridiculous.

They are also examining their hobbies and behavioural patterns to get clues for unravelling the mystery. 53- year- old Captain Zaharie came under scanner after some of the photos posted by him on Facebook showed him with a flight simulator in the background at his residence. The Malaysian Police is examining the simulator and it believes this is an unusual thing for a pilot, who is highly experienced with over 18,000 hours of flying time. He has been associated with Malaysia Airlines for more than 30 years.
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abhijitm wrote:Under the guise of telling malaysians, this I believe is a taunt for India. I know malays are quite nice people and they usually don't mean harm, but they are not strong and are unprepared to handle such international scenarios. And I am sure "someone else" is "guiding" them at every step. We need to be careful here.
there are very high tensions (under normal circumstances) between the majority malays and the large chinese ethnic population (have been settled there for over a 100 years)

and now we have the PRC government browbeating the bumiputeras about the fate of ethnic chinese folks! this is a matter of great delicacy within malaysia and likely to lead to all manner of overspill issues

dont forget also that the memories of the (chinese) communist insurgency are not that far back - things can get out of hand easily
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Keeping the pax alive after a soft landing imposes high overhead costs. Physical security has to be provided at the landing site and this will not come cheap. The labour may be cheap but the political overhead will be significant.
The Container Ship The Cruise Ship "Amazing Grace". Now on IO cruise to sunny Somalia. How many ships and their crews have been kidnapped and held prisoner, totally incommunicado, for years in Sunny Somalia? Those are tough sailors. These are mothers and toddlers and office workers. Easy. "Keeping alive" is a subjective term for these types of Cruise Line Stewards.

Anyway, we have long rejected all such grand CTs and gone with the Simple Corporate-Dictatorial CT: bury the evidence.

There is one last step:
Step X: Pieces of wreckage "found" , say off New Zealand or Fiji, where the ocean is hajaar deep. Ts-tsk, no hope of EVAAAR phinding Plack Pox onlee, what to do?
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Quote- "Among the software we checked so far is the Male International Airport in Maldives, three airports in India and Sri Lanka, and one belonging to the US military base in Diego Garcia. All have a runway length of 1,000 metres," a source told the Malay daily."
If your job was to take a 250-ton aluminum tube up every din and zipping along at 16 km per minute, with very few places where you can properly land, you would also use all your spare living hours practising emergency landings at other places in your general area with at least SOME runway.

1000m runway is extremely short, but may save lives. I think most of those runways are much longer. DG takes off B-52s and B-2s with full loads, hain? And C-5s and KC-135s.

The chief pilot had 30 years of experience with the **** airline and they call him a terrorist and ransack his home and torture his family just because he is missing, probably dead? What sort of scumbags are his employers?
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For the last ten years the Burmese junta has been building up airbases along its eastern border. All of these are 5000 ft long runways and have military garrisons with perimeter fences and storage for weapons and aircraft.

There is a cluster of these in the Shan state, Mong Hsat, Nansang, Namtu, Kengtung and Tachilek. These are not small airfields. There is one more proposed at Mongton, but I don't know far they have got along in construction.

A decade ago, I spoke to Bertill Lintner and I asked him if the PRC was planning to put a pipeline across Myanmar. His reply was most likely. Apparently last year Petrochina worked up a deal to get a pipeline from Kyauk Phyu to Kunming.
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No individuals or groups had raised any political demands over the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, said China's ambassador to Malaysia on Tuesday.

Ambassador Huang Huikang also said that China had ruled out the possibility of terrorist or sabotage activity by any of its 153 nationals on board the Boeing 777-200ER, which cut off communication with controllers and fell off civilian radar screens in the early hours of March 8 while en route from Kualua Lumpur to Beijing.

China had "conducted meticulous investigation into all the (Chinese) passengers, and did not find any evidence of sabotage activity," Huang told a press briefing in Kuala Lumpur on Tuesday morning.

As the search enters its 10th day, China is focusing on eliminating one of the possible "corridors" where the missing plane might have flown to and landed, Huang said.

"The key now is to narrow the search area and eliminate one of the two corridors," Huang said, adding that China had started searching the areas where the northern corridor falls within Chinese territory.
There are major changes in our search strategy and plans due to the change of situations. The forces will head in two opposite directions, one northward and the other southward, starting today," a press official at the China Maritime Search and Rescue Centre in Beijing told the Post on Tuesday morning.

But she declined to reveal further details, saying "the intelligence is constantly changing, so is the arrangement."
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BANGKOK, March 18 - A Royal Thai Air Force radar station in the southern region detected a passenger aircraft departing Malaysia but which U-turned to Penang which may have been the Malaysian jetliner before it went missing, according to Thai Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Prachin Chantong.

ACM Prachin said that Malaysian authorities have requested radar information from Thailand for investigation into mysterious disappearance of the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777-200 flight MH370.

Flight 370 vanished March 8 with 239 people aboard a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

He said according to the information of Air Force radar system at Surat Thani that covering southern Thailand cities including Phuket, Hat Yai, Songkhla and Surat Thani has detected a passenger plane taking off from Kuala Lumpur and did a U-turn, diverting to Butterworth, Penang Island before heading into direction of the Strait of Malacca.

The information was in accordance with the announcement by Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak that the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777-200 aircraft was apparently deliberately diverted and flown for hours after vanishing from radar.

ACM Prachin said the Air Force would forward the information to Malaysian authorities to check whether it was a missing MH370. (MCOT online news)
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Q: Why is Thailand coming out with this information 10 days after the plane is gone?

Q: There is another conspicuous silence - Indonesia.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Captain Zaharie Ahmed Shah, ..had shown striking behavioural changes hours before he flew the plane. Captain Zaharie, who normally wished the Nepali security guards posted outside his colony in Laman Seri with a Muslim style of salutation as if saying salaam, saluted the guards in a military style on the fateful night. “There was a striking change in the way he had saluted us that night,” said one of the guards... “it was very unlike him”. Another abnormal thing noticed that night was that Zaharie used his own BMW 5 series car to commute to the airport.
OK! And they haven't read watched 007 THUNDERBALL ???? It clearly wasn't him then.. But all garbage. Maybe he had his mouth full with jalebi that night and couldn't say Salaam without spreading jalebi all over his fine Malaysian Airlines Field Marshal costume.

P.S. Royal Thailand Air Fauj: hu trains them?
P.S. 2: "the intelligence is constantly changing, so is the arrangement." They are trying multiplying the IQ by 1, 2/2, 3/3, 1000/1000, and always coming up with the same result: 0.

P.S. 3: U-turn towards Penang, and "mumbled transmission" were the last desperate measures b4 coming down on rubber plantation under steep cliff, maybe dumped fuel before that though I doubt it. Small fires are unremarkable in an area where there is a lot of routine burning occurring anyway. Before military operation kicked into gear, cordoning off the area and bringing in the earthmovers. We have to wait for the first defectors - but where will they defect? See Enn Enn won't publish their account, nor will NYT or WaPo. Russia? how will they get there? China? Swift trip to firing squad, or slower to Southern Ulan Bator Final Relaxation Resort to practise ditch digging for rest of life. India is about the only possible place, but how will they get through Indian polis without Malaysian exit vija?
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Lalmohan that's right. Has anyone noticed that when the Malay bhumiputeras (a wonderful sanskrit word) take to the stage to hold their press conferences, the master of ceremonies is a very towering Sikh chap who marshals the foreign press, and shields the Malay ministers from any hostile questioning.
I wonder whether ISRO receives data as part of GAGAN from its satellites hanging over the region. Would it be a distraction for them to selectively leak this data? As for Thailand, and the silence from Indonesia, there is no love lost between these guys I believe, and let's not forget the problems the chinese have had in Indonesia in 1965 and 1998.
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The Chinese are not only cowards; they have also sold their souls.

Signing off from here...
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http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062

Maldives island residents report sighting of 'low flying jet'
Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.

Whilst the disappearance of the Boeing 777 jet, carrying 239 passengers has left the whole world in bewilderment, several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8.

They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.

Eyewitnesses from the Kuda Huvadhoo concurred that the aeroplane was travelling North to South-East, towards the Southern tip of the Maldives – Addu. Going south of Addu will take you to guess what? Diego Garcia!!! From Addu Atoll DG is under 800 kilometer and there is a perfect Air Traffic Route going south from this atoll to DG.They also noted the incredibly loud noise that the flight made when it flew over the island.

"I've never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We've seen seaplanes, but I'm sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly," said an eyewitness.

"It's not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too."

Mohamed Zaheem, the Island Councilor of Kuda Huvadhoo, said that the residents of the island had spoken about the incident.

A local aviation expert told Haveeru that it is "likely" for MH370 to have flown over the Maldives. The possibility of any aircraft flying over the island at the reported time is extremely low, the expert added.

The Malaysia airlines jet disappeared on March 8 with 239 people on board after taking off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing. Investigators say it was deliberately diverted off course.

Twenty-six countries are now helping to hunt for the plane after satellite and military radar data projected two huge corridors through which it might have flown.

Satellite data suggests that the last "ping" was recieved from the flight somwhere close to the Maldives and the US naval base on Diego Garcia.

But the Maldives is not amongst the countries that Malaysian authorities had sought help from in its search for the missing jet. Malaysia has listed the countries that it had appealed for assistance: Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, China, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, Australia and France.
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I think the Thailand news makes it very clear that just like the Thais made public what they know 10 days later, other governments, including the Malaysian and Chinese, may make public what they know 30 days later or even never. Politics, rivalries, saving face, etc., etc., are of a far higher priority to these people than the finding of the plane. They are willing to spend a lot of other peoples' time and resources in searches known beforehand to be pointless rather than come clean with what they know. Even if they don't want to say what they know, they should not ask others to engage in pointless searches.

Screw the entire lot of them, and have a little sympathy for their citizens, who will one day or the other overthrow the entire rotten lot of them.

PS: contrary to what might have been misread into what I wrote some pages ago, I'm not so concerned that they are not telling aam aadmi what they know. But e.g., to ask India to search the Bay of Bengal or to ask Australia to search the ocean off of Perth is simply **wrong** IF they already know that the plane cannot be there. Or to allow the search to continue **after** they discover that the plane cannot be there.
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We have five Indians on that lost plane. It is responsibility of Indian Govt to find answers to their disappearance.
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Dilbu wrote:So either it crashed or it is sitting somewhere in IOR ready to be used as a ram rod. Neither of these are comforting thoughts. The second one is very very dangerous for India.
Dilbu I am not sure why anyone believes that one civilian airliner can be so dangerous for anyone other than the passengers on board. Fully loaded and fuelled planes are flying over most cities of the world and every now and again one of them crashes inadvertently and not a lot happens. Yes, sometimes building fall if the plane hits a building - the taller the building the bigger the fall. But exactly what is so dangerous about one huge non stealthy plane for a country like India when we are more accustomed to expecting 200 Paki aircraft to come attack us? One plane? Personally, I don't see it being as dangerous as being made out to be in panicky news reports. OK no one wants to die suddenly, but let me say that the scare of planes being crashed has been sparked mainly by 9-11, and fails to note that thousands more are killed by Akphyrr and IEDmubaraks - which are scarier.

The Malaysians are clods. They dropped the ball that night and are simply bullshitting that the flight hijackers were so soooooooo clever that they fooled everyone and that the Malays are not ulloos after all since everyone else is an ulloo too.
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All said and done, MH 370 by pinging 7 hours communicated more than what our PMO communicated in the last 10 years.
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Could also have been a US B-52 or tanker coming in to DG from K'rachi, but not painted in camouflage? Was it Air Force 1? :eek: :mrgreen: Or Ars*nic UkBapziputri coming in for secret meeting with BO? Now if I go to Maps.Google.com, I will find that this island is conveniently located exactly on the vector from Malacca Straits to DG, so I won't even bother with that "discovery". I suppose Google Maps are available to other CT-peddlers as well? This sounds like the GRU/911-Pentagon-Was-Not-Hit source has linked up with the INMARSAT Pinger (using the Miracle Transponder that Transponds Even When Shut Off and No Subscription) and Deep Throat at WSJ. Now for that miraculous wreckage*-piece finding, we will have "closure".

(*a piece that will fit easily in an SUV)
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chaanakya wrote:We have five Indians on that lost plane. It is responsibility of Indian Govt to find answers to their disappearance.
:D Good one. No money for Rafale. No money for Artillery. No money for soldiers pensions. No money to keep radars on 24x7. No time for dying soldiers - but GoI will now shoulder the "responsibility" of finding answers for those five Indians flying from Malaysia to China. Problem is that Indian politicians such as Khurshid and Sri Sri Sri Chidambaram will promise exactly that and other than 22.5 people on BRF the entire country will swallow that statement and say Jai ho!

Better not to ask politicians to make useless symbolic gestures.
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3 hr time diff between Malaysia and Maldives. 615 is 915 Malaysia time. Last sat ping was 811. Still does not fit into the arc
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What will happen if a plane crashes on Diego Garcia? Will the island sink? I mean if bin Laden had an IQ of 150, clearly bin Fartin has an IQ of 15.
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When a big terrorist event occurs - there will always be chatter in certain channels and that chatter is instantly picked up by intel agencies. The organization required to "own" an airfield big enough to hide a 777 and dispose off the passengers would require communication that would be picked up. Nothing of the sort is happening. The Malaysians are clutching at straws and the rest of us are farting into the wind.

The plane is down where no one will find any remains for a long long time. As someone said the southern Indian ocean is a radar "black hole". Or else some jungle in SE Asia.
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All said and done, MH 370 by pinging 7 hours communicated more than what our PMO communicated in the last 10 years.
:mrgreen: A good point to take with me as I try to get out of this sick tamasha by all these guvrmands.

Rishi: At "last ping" it had conveniently about "1 hr of fuel left" Not counting Miracle Amphibious Glide System (MAGS) that the See Eye Ayh has installed on all US airliners since 9/11. Let's see: ORIGINAL story was "7.5 hours fuel left at last contact", which was 1:30AM? So exactly 9AM fuel-out. No wonder it was flying so low: coming in for landing in the ocean near DG, to row/sail the rest of the way. Open the emergency doors and put out the slides, the Telescoping Oar Systems (TOS) will be deployed through the windows, and the passengers row-row-row like an old Roman galleon. The CT experts do their madarssa math, Rishi. 8) No hope of catching them there.

But now... SURELY it would have been on DG radar, ships' radar, planes' radar, hain? Lit up with missile launch radars too. So can SeeEnnEnn and WaPO and WSJ report this new CT? THAT's going to be the interesting thing to watch.

shiv: NO way can DG take another 250 TONS! I am more worried about the VilanganKunnu Volcano near Ulan Bator that will surely explode with this added pressure on the ground so close to Northern Himachal.
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Does anyone know if DG is still operational? WILL anyone be allowed to know?
shiv: Something just hit me (yes, I succumbed to temptation and went on Google maps).
U know what Maldives are called in the original Ulan Batori? "Mala Dveep" meaning "Necklace Islands" Take a look at Google maps. HOW did the Djinns of Ulan Bator know how it looked on a map? PROOF that Ulan Batoris used to do regular Space Station passes in LEO 1,700,000,000 years ago! :shock:

Added: there is actually no need at all to overfly KudaHuvadhoo to reach DG from the Straits of Malacca. Unless one wanted to say hello to the houris sunning themselves in the backyards or buying Rooh Afza at the FahiMart, which only opens at 9AM, BTW, and is closed Sundays. Quite a detour, in fact.
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chaanakya wrote:We have five Indians on that lost plane. It is responsibility of Indian Govt to find answers to their disappearance.
Also hold slack security of Malaysia responsible.

If you notice, those who were taunting NDA government for a decade about Kandahar hijack of IA are totally silent now, when 5 passengers from India are at risk of terror attack. No taunting when foreigners are involved; but if paki hijackers kill Indians it is NDA political parties that are at the receiving end.

We also have extraordinary situations where TV news anchors pointing out loud on TV if there are more hostages during ongoing hostage crisis.
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Funny. Off Topic, it seems Maldives has a LOT of flights directly from China.
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shiv wrote:
chaanakya wrote:We have five Indians on that lost plane. It is responsibility of Indian Govt to find answers to their disappearance.
:D Good one. No money for Rafale. No money for Artillery. No money for soldiers pensions. No money to keep radars on 24x7. No time for dying soldiers - but GoI will now shoulder the "responsibility" of finding answers for those five Indians flying from Malaysia to China. Problem is that Indian politicians such as Khurshid and Sri Sri Sri Chidambaram will promise exactly that and other than 22.5 people on BRF the entire country will swallow that statement and say Jai ho!

Better not to ask politicians to make useless symbolic gestures.
I don't know about damned politicians but sure I expect that as a citizen.

Who do you think would take that responsibility? Are Indians orphan if they fly any other Airlines from one country to another not originating in India or that GOI would not worry about their well being as it is often accused off.

MEA has a big responsibility, money or no money. Do Ills of Indian system as narrated by you and not disputed by me absolve the Govt of this responsibility?

And India has to haul up Malaysian Airlines as well .
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Wellaaaare the Americans keeping quiet since a civilian airccraft was shot down by defences in DG, imagine how this will play up with the Chinese.
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Man! Looking at pictures of ppl cycling past the nice homes on KudaHuvadhoo was a transformative experience. How does one get a job going and sticking a microphone in front of a houri there, I wonder..
Excuse me, Mohterma, I yam from Ulan Bator News & Conspiraces (UBNC). Did joo see a big fat-bodied thing wearing red white and blue colors last Sundin sabere, heading towards the South Beach?

Oh, yess! Was kind of shaky, so I caught up and ate most of it, but much of it was fat and smelled of whisky and pakistan and Polo, yuck! Put the rest in coujin Abdul's freezer: he's got a large Samsung one big enough to take a couple of these. Would joo like to come see coujin Abdul? I am going there with this knife I just got sharpened at the FahiMart after vijiting my coujin Ayesha at the PrintZone (960 786-26xx) at Olhuveli 1x4 Iskandaru Magu. Wanna come for lunch with us?
:eek: :eek:

Just remembered that coujins Abdul and Ayesha could be reading this as I type, and sharpening their knives..
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big fat-bodied white thing wearing red white and blue colors
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harbans wrote:All said and done, MH 370 by pinging 7 hours communicated more than what our PMO communicated in the last 10 years.
To me the issue is not so much about secrecy, but very much about efficacy.
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CT No 420. Pilot/Copilot was a military enthusiast/amateur and intentionally suicided his plane by shutting off his transponders and approached DG. Plane was shot down as it approached DG without warning. The intention was to cause an international incident between China and US. Quite possible the pilot was disturbed by Malaysian's govt's jailing of Anwar Ibrahim of whom he was a supporter. BTW this democracy business, that is of the daily dharna and Euromaiden type, is a Ford Foundation export, ain't it.
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Marten wrote:I don't think this plane could be fireballed without someone picking it up on a sat or radar. It's a possibility for sure, but just not the best out there.
Marten: That was my thought also. But on the other hand, how much sat coverage is there of south IO? It is devoid of any reasonable sized islands of any strategic importance (other than DG), so any computer image recognition and sorting algorithms would aggressively prune the data to small size to be transmitted back to to ground stations.
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Just watching/ listening to a literacy class in progress:
My friend's friend - was the lady in the family. She, her husband, her father, mother, children.. whole family... 240 people! .. all this technology.... 11 days .... Not ONE indication?? Ocean there... very deep..
Ultimately that's what this is about. Tragic.
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MH370: Diego Garcia runway found in Captain Zaharie's flight simulator
Read more at: http://english.astroawani.com/news/show ... r-32034?cp
why should a commercial airline captain, have the run way of Diego Garcia on his simulator?
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why should a commercial airline captain, have the run way of Diego Garcia on his simulator?
Because it is his job, and it may save his life, to know how to land there?
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DG is allegedly an emergency landing site for commercial aviation.
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Harpal Bector wrote:DG is allegedly an emergency landing site for commercial aviation.
In that case they cannot shoot down an unannounced airline coming their way in a jiffy, can they?
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