Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 03 May 2014 09:18

Arre Bhaiyaa , let Rabri, Jalebi , Misa win their seats first. Biharis are no fool to strengthen congis and vote for RJD aka laloo again to witness dark decades again. All ego inflated ,self important impotent politicians from congis and RJD are biting dust. MY equation is blown into the winds. Y have been major slayer of M in various tandava nrityas.Tactical voting will be defeated in the face of large scale shift of Non aligned voters to NaMo. Therefore , I would say its 35 vs 5 at the most. I am yet to see from where JDU would open its account? NiKuamma , anyway , is gone and we are ready for that.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 03 May 2014 09:35

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 03 May 2014 09:41

subhamoy.das wrote:Some thing is not right in Bihar. I feel that the fact the Niku is no longer the local leader and Sushil Modi was not the option so the TINA effect will divert votes to RJD. Voters are feeling that if RJD is not made strong in LS then there are chances that NDA will pull down BJP local govt and Bihar will be in a limbo! What are the predictions for Bihar for BJP and RJD and CONGI? Can this loss be made up in South or East?

You took my post seriously, huh ?

vic · Post by **vic** » 03 May 2014 09:57

Congress will get around 75. NAMO should break congress, take out 25 seats-votes into BJP and bring BJP to simple majority.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 May 2014 10:13

Amitbhai Shah, saying it like it is, in his trademark deadpan tone.... sending (dhoti) shivers down oppn camp. Only.

niran · Post by **niran** » 03 May 2014 10:21

subhamoy.das wrote:Some thing is not right in Bihar.

depends upon which side you are looking from, from NaMo side it cannot be better than this not even in their wildest dreams.
from the other side it cannot be worse than this.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2014 10:31

TV9 Gujarat is reporting some fire in Surat. I don't k.now the language. Hope its not some terrorist attack.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 03 May 2014 10:36

ramana wrote:TV9 Gujarat is reporting some fire in Surat. I don't k.now the language. Hope its not some terrorist attack.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 May 2014 10:38

Ok thanks.

Shaktimaan · Post by **Shaktimaan** » 03 May 2014 11:40

Poof! And just like that, Twitter is no longer abuzz with reports of the BJP's demise in Bihar. Just goes to show, we should not fall prey to psy ops.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 11:56

Amit Malviya ‏@malviyamit 2h

All talk of Lalu’s come back disappears in thin air ! #Bihar #BJP pic.twitter.com/hXWzfds3NE

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 03 May 2014 11:57

^The former bullies are trying to intimidate. They are just putting on a show, when they are actually pissing their pants. Only fools fall prey to such obvious fake posturing. The above news seals the deal. So much for 40/40

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 12:12

Amit Malviya ‏@malviyamit 3h

Sharad Yadav ‘apologises’ for backing Nitish and Lalu Prasad http://shar.es/Sqdoh Rebellion in JD(U)! Nitish going down without a fight.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 03 May 2014 12:33

^I wonder if even this will convince the dhoti-shivering group.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 03 May 2014 12:34

pankajs wrote:
Amit Malviya ‏@malviyamit 3h

Sharad Yadav ‘apologises’ for backing Nitish and Lalu Prasad http://shar.es/Sqdoh Rebellion in JD(U)! Nitish going down without a fight.

O boy!!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 12:36

Jehangir Pocha ‏@JehangirPocha 4h

A nice headline to wake to. Kudos to the EC for preventing the outgoing govt from appointing the next Army Chief. pic.twitter.com/9Dv9HnQo5g

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 12:39

Good tactics to keep the pressure on EC and show them up as biased.

TIMES NOW ‏@timesnow 2h

BJP delegation to meet Central Election Commissioner at 11am, to complain against Rahul Gandhi's language towards Modi #India2014

TIMES NOW ‏@timesnow 2h

BJP to also lodge complaint with Central Election Commissioner about leaders like Lalu Prasad using bad language & targeting Modi #India2014

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 03 May 2014 13:00

Psych saar,
I think lotus actually gained due to not bringing NaMo to center for a decade and anointing him just before the contest. It was a little late(say a month). But, if NaMo had been brought very early, then it would have led to fatigue. I think one of the big mistakes of Loh Purush was anointing himself as the candidate in 2009 long back and no action on ground. That created fatigue.(Of course, there are other factors like people viewed the nuke deal positively and faux pas in regard to Babri. And of course, the vote katua parties along with magic).

Now, some people seem to have lot of faith in people and machines, but I cannot share that faith. I think both machines and people are generally vulnerable. I think there was magic in 2009 specially in AP along with the chiru factor. And remember it was AP that gave so many seats and as a consequence AP is broken into pieces.

If NaMo had been brought on to the center earlier, it gives enough opportunities for the detractors to come with plans. In a way, D4 shielded NaMo. The amirkhans and bakis had faith in dynasty. Dynasty had faith in D4.

The D4 game was to keep the Aar-Yes-Yes and NaMo divided while the D4 sided with both of them to thwart the other. But, this game backfired when Aar-Yes-Yes and NaMo joined hands. D4 failed. Dynasty was hoping that D4 would succeed and didn't have contingency plans. Then, Pune blasts. NaMo was lucky. I think he has thapas shakthi.(Vivekananda and many others talk about this. Supposedly, it is a shakthi that comes to people who perform certain austerities). It is almost as if NaMo is going ahead with a plan made in heaven. Everything and anything is going in his favor.

My prediction: 270 for lotus. It is a tad optimistic. A more neutral prediction is: 240-280. I think lotus would have been around 160-180 and NaMo added 100 seats to the tally.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 May 2014 13:10

Persons who serve people will get blessings of god. It may not be always there but many times it can be seen. The confidence and drive levels in such people will be unparalleled. Shivaji, Swamy Vivekananda and many other great souls proved that. They fear nothing and always do their best.

I do not compare NM with Swamy Vivekananda whose name he shares but he has proven himself to be a person with commitment to serve motherland and from this commitment to serve everything else flows.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 03 May 2014 13:13

vnmshyam wrote:[Semi OT]
This thread is awesome for many reasons. Any one interested in psychology, should visit this forum.

BRF ( at least this thread ) is becoming an echo chamber. But there are differences.

The general mood can be gauged by the posts ( frequency, content and posters ). I have formed a picture in my mind of the nature, as in tendencies, of various posters.
1) Some of them are very conservative in life.
2) Some get easily discouraged.
3) Some jump to conclusions.
4) Some are stubborn.
5) Some are disingenious.
6) Some of them, quite often, pull a fast one and assume that they have fooled everyone.
7) Some of them genuine and passionate beliefs regardless of whether they are right or wrong.

Note: Some are a mix of all the above.
[/Semi OT]

Saar,
why don't you give an example(poster name) for each type that you have mentioned?

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 03 May 2014 13:22

In Bengal there was wide scale rigging by TMC inline with what the CPM used to do. Heard from co-workers. Central forces kept in stand by mode in such a manner that EC did nothing or it did not register in EC rudder. Are we still on for 4-6 seats in Bengal?

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 03 May 2014 13:41

Well my RTI dream was shattered 10 years ago when AVP lost against odd. A lot is riding on 2014 so that the next 10 years can comfort me that the RTI decision was after all a right one. Even though all data points are all telling that NAMO is home comfortably , yet at times deep down, the faith on the indic electorate, to be preferring good governance over dynastic governance ( RJD is a prime example of the same ), takes a beating! I agree we need to keep the faith.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 03 May 2014 13:45

subhamoy.das wrote:In Bengal there was wide scale rigging by TMC inline with what the CPM used to do. Heard from co-workers. Central forces kept in stand by mode in such a manner that EC did nothing or it did not register in EC rudder. Are we still on for 4-6 seats in Bengal?

not any longer. spoke to a mid level cpm karyakarta. he claims bjp was in fight for serampore, krishnanagar but won't make it due to rigging. huge rigging in last phase after tmc discovered they were facing uphill battle in ALL the seats that had gone to polls before that. TIFWIW.

claims EC special observer, rakesh something came to an understanding after much haggling. the price, 10 Cr.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 May 2014 13:50

TMC simply replaced CPM and gang. Nothing else changed in WB. Same goondas who were with CPM are now with TMC. Mumta didi who fight CPM all her life has become like one. Pity - I really used to admire her for her courage to fight against CPM.

gashish · Post by **gashish** » 03 May 2014 14:06

5Forty3 calls 2014 elections. History takes a definite right turn..

BJP: Min 240- Max 260
NDA: Min 280-Max 320!!!!

Projected BJP vote-share nationally: 30%, never before in the history

April 30 projections:

Bihar: 4 (BJP), Con-RJD (3)

Punjab: 8(NDA), Con (4), AAP (1)

UP:9 (BJP), 2 (Con), SP (2), BSP (1)

rohitv · Post by **rohitv** » 03 May 2014 14:11

gashish wrote:5Forty3 calls 2014 elections. History takes a definite right turn..

BJP: Min 240- Max 260
NDA: Min 280-Max 320!!!!

Projected BJP vote-share nationally: 30%, never before in the history

April 30 projections:

Bihar: 4 (BJP), Con-RJD (3)

Punjab: 8(NDA), Con (4), AAP (1)

UP:9 (BJP), 2 (Con), SP (2), BSP (1)

Pre Poll NDA at 41% vote share!!

member_27400 · Post by **member_27400** » 03 May 2014 14:13

gashish wrote:5Forty3 calls 2014 elections. History takes a definite right turn..

BJP: Min 240- Max 260
NDA: Min 280-Max 320!!!!

Projected BJP vote-share nationally: 30%, never before in the history

April 30 projections:

Bihar: 4 (BJP), Con-RJD (3)

Punjab: 8(NDA), Con (4), AAP (1)

UP:9 (BJP), 2 (Con), SP (2), BSP (1)

Even if with 5% of margin , BJP is getting 205 seats.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 May 2014 14:15

TMC simply replaced CPM and gang. Nothing else changed in WB. Same goondas who were with CPM are now with TMC. Mumta didi who fight CPM all her life has become like one. Pity - I really used to admire her for her courage to fight against CPM.

Frankly knew MB was made of the same chip as the Commies. Never had any illusions on that front. It's not important who is fighting fighting the commies for power, but what principles they stand upon in the fight. Mamta wasn't changing anything fundamentally, she never had any ideas at all, only rhetoric. So ultimately the whole cycle had to be rinsed and repeated with loss of time, development, perpetuation of poverty, increased infiltration etc..just because our folks are too lazy to really see what an opposition is standing up for.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 03 May 2014 14:17

gashish wrote:5Forty3 calls 2014 elections. History takes a definite right turn..

BJP: Min 240- Max 260
NDA: Min 280-Max 320!!!!

are they still downgrading the BJP numbers?

Denis · Post by **Denis** » 03 May 2014 14:27

abhijitm wrote:
gashish wrote:5Forty3 calls 2014 elections. History takes a definite right turn..

BJP: Min 240- Max 260
NDA: Min 280-Max 320!!!!
are they still downgrading the BJP numbers?

Dr. Patil is also stating that even if they discount an error of 5% in favour of BJP, the party would still get a shade over 200.

Achhe din aane wale hain!!!

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 03 May 2014 14:27

BJP min per them, when everything can go wrong is 204

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 03 May 2014 14:30

posting the below piece for ITS PROSE. It has no data - guys enjoy!!

OK deleting on popular demand

To sum up - hoye hai wahi jo Ram rachi rakha

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 03 May 2014 15:06

Suresh En ‏@surnell 1h
Heard Kumar Vishwas is joining #NaMoInAmethi Rally? And planning to support BJP candidate in Amethi!!! Yes in... http://fb.me/6LgmR37Rv

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 03 May 2014 15:10

NaMo will lose onlee.

archan · Post by **archan** » 03 May 2014 15:25

Dilbu wrote:NaMo will lose onlee.

Shabash, mere bachche!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 15:36

Interesting nugget

Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 1h

Let me repeat what i had tweeted on many ocasions in the past.....BJP, on its own has won 299 diff seats in various elex-so 272 is possible

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 3h

All you "Bhakts": don't get surprised to see many of such 3rd rate & so called "Secular" Journos being very "close" to some of your leaders.

The Indian Express ‏@IndianExpress 1h

Congress MLA Godinho accused of working against the party; open to joining BJP http://iexp.in/ofm83135 #Congress #BJP #Elections2014

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 16:00

To what extend the PMO has stooped to pull Modi down.
------------------------------------------------------>
PM Manmohan Singh's media advisor misleads people on Gujarat's economic data

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 647022.cms

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister's media advisor Pankaj Pachauri came under attack after tweeting some economic data, at variance with those released by the Central Statistical Office (CSO) earlier, to say how Gujarat doesn't figure in the top ten state economies in the country. He also said that in 2012-13, out of 19 states, Gujarat had the slowest growth rate at 9.52% at current prices.

Soon after posting the tweets, Pachauri was attacked by many followers with one (@anujg) demanding that he must "apologize for the false propaganda".

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 16:18

So CEC has a direct link to Coalgate! And the GOI has stalled his examination by the CBI. Does he sense danger with Modi's rise to the PM's seat?

Pawan Durani ‏@PawanDurani 2h

Government has stonewalled CBI’s proposal to examine Chief Election Commissioner VS Sampath [ Then Power Secretary ] #CoalGate

Pawan Durani ‏@PawanDurani 2h

CEC Sampath was Power Secretary between 2008 and 2009 when a large number of coal blocks were allotted by the Coal Ministry | #CoalGate

Sampath tu to gaya re!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 03 May 2014 16:26

Hell there is more!

J Gopikrishnan ‏@jgopikrishnan70 3h

All the three - Sampath, Brahma & Zaidi escaped from CBI radars after becoming ECs. Colgate, Airbus purchases : http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... viser.html …

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 May 2014 16:27

Not so easy sir. His position is a constitutional one and difficult to remove. But if he is arrested then it will be diffulct for him to continue. By the way he was earliest worked in YSR's AP. Said to close to YSR.