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Slightly old but fascinating..

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The russians have slightly modified the outer hull of the Admiral Grigorovich class of Project 11356 Frigates. These are the same class as IN's Talwar Class

The Area below the Helo Deck is covered in these ships, providing more stealth and heating. Although these ships are meant to be deployed with the black sea fleet.
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Compare the above to the Talwar class, open area below the helo deck. Also the helo deck is longer in the Admiral Grigorovich class
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To those who wonder about the IN's recent spate of accidents, ship sometimes happens.

Here's how something can really snowball

"The Navy's greatest navigational tragedy took place in September 1923 at an isolated California coastal headland locally known as Honda Point. Officially called Point Pedernales, Honda is a few miles from the northern entrance of the heavily-traveled Santa Barbara Channel. Completely exposed to wind and wave, and often obscured by fog, this rocky shore has claimed many vessels, but never more at one stroke than at about 9 PM on the dark evening of 8 September 1923, when seven nearly new U.S. Navy destroyers and twenty-three lives were lost there."

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Gagan wrote:The russians have slightly modified the outer hull of the Admiral Grigorovich class of Project 11356 Frigates. These are the same class as IN's Talwar Class
They also use VLS Shtil-1 in 36 VLS Launchers

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This is amazing.

They added almost 100 feet to this liner and it is all here to see in a little over a minute or two.

Some damn good mechanical engineers and craft

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Japanese Advance Plans For Another Air-Capable Assault Ship
The Japanese defense ministry has brought forward a proposal to construct at least one large amphibious assault ship that will enlarge the country’s naval aviation capability. The program may also enhance sales prospects for the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey.

Entry into service for the ship is now targeted for the fiscal year from March 2019; previous plans implied it would be commissioned in the early 2020s, if at all. The ministry will request funding for studies of the ship for the budget year beginning April 1, 2015, Jiji news agency reports.

Missions include rapid reinforcement of the defenses of Japan’s remote islands, with those actively disputed by China—the Senkaku, or Diaoyu, islands—probably a spur. Tokyo must also consider its claim to the Liancourt Rocks, over which North and South Korea also assert sovereignty.

Operation of an amphibious assault ship in addition to three small Osumi-class vessels now in commission suggests Japanese purchases of additional Osprey tiltrotors, helicopters or both. The fiscal 2014-18 defense plan allows for an order for 17 Ospreys, but that document included no firm plan for new assault shipping nor, presumably, the accompanying aircraft.

The disputed rocks and islands have no airstrips, and the Senkakus are far from the Japanese main territory (see map). Helicopters could fly there from an airport on Miyakojima, an island 200 km (120 mi.) away, but heavy reinforcement would demand sealift, even if the transfer ashore were effected by rotorcraft. While the Japanese navy says it would use air-cushion landing craft and amphibious vehicles only in peacetime or when threats were low, it seems not to have ruled out the possibility of employing vertical lift in the face of enemy opposition.

The proposed schedule for the assault ship suggests the ministry already has a pretty good idea of what it wants to build, because it is giving itself only a year for completing a design. Japanese construction of large warships routinely takes three years. Subject to budget approval, “the ministry of defense will study the required functions and size of such a ship from 2015, with an aim of putting it into service in 2019,” Jiji reports, presumably based on an official briefing.

This represents an acceleration of Japanese planning, because the defense policy that the cabinet adopted in December, the National Defense Program Guidelines, allowed three years for studies up to fiscal 2018 and then a decision on whether to go ahead with construction (AW&ST March 10, p. 46). Because of the ambiguity of Japanese language, it is unclear whether one or more amphibious assault ships are in the offing, but the Japanese navy almost always builds at least two units of every design of fighting ship, even if only one is announced at first.

The defense ministry’s loose specification requires a “multirole ship [or ships] capable of command and control, large-scale transportation and aviation use for amphibious operations.” Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said on July 8 he would accelerate planning for the program. The plan now looks quite firm.

Onodera and other officials inspected USS Makin Island in San Diego on July 7. The choice of that Wasp-class ship, with a full-length flight deck, reinforces expectations that Japan wants a design with excellent aviation facilities, potentially supporting the short-takeoff and vertical-landing version of the Lockheed Martin Lightning, the F-35B.

A flat-topped assault ship is not an aircraft carrier, but designers can work in more aviation features than required for amphibious landings, some of which need not be immediately revealed. Moreover, the obfuscating talents of Japanese officialdom could be harnessed to play down a ship’s capacity for tactical airpower.

There would be at least one telltale sign, however. While a ski-jump can be explained as a mere convenience for allies’ F-35Bs, large ships built mainly for amphibious landings never have high speed; they need to devote volume to storage and accommodation rather than unnecessarily powerful machinery. The Osumis are designed for 22 kt., the U.S. Navy’s standard for amphibious shipping, while the combat units of the Japanese navy are generally capable of 30 kt.

The Japanese may see an interesting precedent in the 27,500-metric-ton Italian ship Cavour, which was designed mainly as a carrier with considerable transport capacity. It has loading ramps, troop accommodation and a hangar deck strong enough to accept army vehicles, even tanks. The ship is also capable of 28 kt., partly thanks to the omission of a dock for landing craft, a usual feature of assault ships.

The construction timetable implied by Jiji’s report looks feasible. IHI Marine United built the two Hyuga-class helicopter carriers in time for commissioning in 2007 and 2009, showing that the industry could handle a two-year interval between large warships. Two Izumo-class helicopter carriers are planned, with the first probably due for commissioning in 2015 and the second possibly in 2017, each after three years of construction. If a design for an assault ship of comparable size can be ready for construction to begin in 2016, then the industry should be able to complete it by 2019.

The vessel may be given a designation less aggressive than “assault ship,” says the Asahi newspaper. The disaster relief function could be emphasized, it says.

Despite that, the ministry of defense plans to study assault-ship operations by the U.S. Navy and Royal Navy, neither of which is noted for giving such vessels a primary function of disaster relief. Rather, the main role of their amphibious shipping is, unambiguously, power projection.
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japan sure has a very impressive build rate for large naval vessels.
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brar_w wrote:Japanese Advance Plans For Another Air-Capable Assault Ship
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The proposed schedule for the assault ship suggests the ministry already has a pretty good idea of what it wants to build, because it is giving itself only a year for completing a design. Japanese construction of large warships routinely takes three years. Subject to budget approval, “the ministry of defense will study the required functions and size of such a ship from 2015, with an aim of putting it into service in 2019,” Jiji reports, presumably based on an official briefing.

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Three years to build a large warship whereas Indian shipyards take around 10 years.
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so Rus manages to pack in 36 Shtils, which are heavier and bigger than barak8 onto a Talwar ship and we design for 32 for P15A. sickular, very sickular.
even the jiangkai2 ffg has 32 in front.

we bag 1st prize in the most inefficient use of space onboard a DDG for sure. none can manage to pack in a awesome 16 even if they tried very hard.
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Yes,the manner in which Russian designers pack in multiple capability within small hulls is brilliant.Both Shivaliks and Kols could do with more armament,asap. The P-28 which is an excellent design also has scope for further improvement.These warships,Talwar/Grig. ,P-28,are actually far better and cheaper warships,with more bang for the buck than the US's LCS designs,hideously expensive and saddled with inadequate multi-role capability.

Just look at the Chinese ambitions!

China moves closer to developing supersonic submarine: Report

By PTI | 24 Aug, 2014,

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst
BEIJING: China has moved a step closer to creating a supersonic submarine that could travel from Shanghai to San Francisco covering nearly 9,900 kms in less than two hours, a Chinese scientist has said.

New technology being developed by a team of scientists at Harbin Institute of Technology's Complex Flow and Heat Transfer Lab could make it easier for a submarine or torpedo, to travel at extremely high speeds underwater, the Hong Kong based South China Morning Post reported today.

The distance from Shanghai in eastern China to San Francisco in western United States is about 9,873 km.

Li Fengchen, professor of fluid machinery and engineering, said the team's innovative approach meant they could now create the complicated air "bubble" required for rapid underwater travel.

"We are very excited by its potential," he said. During the Cold War, the Soviet military developed a technology called supercavitation, which involves enveloping a submerged vessel inside an air bubble to avoid problems caused by water drag.

The supercavitation, torpedo called Shakval was able to reach a speed of 370km or more - much faster than any other conventional torpedoes.

Li said the team of Chinese scientists had found an innovative means to address problems like designing a submerged vessel to travel at high speeds to generate and maintain the air bubble with a rudder placed within it to avoid direct contact with water.

Its application so far limited to unmanned vessels, such as torpedoes, but nearly all of these torpedoes were fired in a straight line because they had limited ability to turn.

Once in the water, the team's supercavitation vessel would constantly "shower" a special liquid membrane on its own surface.

Although this membrane would be worn off by water, in the meantime it could significantly reduce the water drag on the vessel at low speed, Li said.

After its speed had reached 75km/h or more the vessel would enter the supercavitation state.

The man-made liquid membrane on the vessel surface could help with steering because, with precise control, different levels of friction could be created on different parts of the vessel.

"Our method is different from any other approach, such as vector propulsion," or thrust created by an engine, Li said.

"By combining liquid-membrane technology with supercavitation, we can significantly reduce the launch challenges and make cruising control easier," he told the Post.

However, Li said many problems still needed to be solved before supersonic submarine travel became feasible.

Besides the control issue, a powerful underwater rocket engine still had to be developed to give the vessel a longer range.

The effective range of the Russian supercavitation torpedoes, for example, was only between 11 km and 15 km.

Li said the supercavitation technology was not limited only to military use. In future, it could benefit civilian underwater transport, or water sports such as swimming.

"If a swimsuit can create and hold many tiny bubbles in water, it can significantly reduce the water drag; swimming in water could be as effortless as flying in the sky," he said.

Besides Russia, countries such as Germany, Iran and the United States have been developing vessels or weapons using supercavitation technology.

Professor Wang Guoyu, the head of the Fluid Mechanics Laboratory at Beijing Institute of Technology who is leading another state-funded research project on supercavitation, said the global research community had been troubled for decades by the lack of innovative ideas to address the huge scientific and engineering challenges.

"The size of the bubble is difficult to control, and the vessel is almost impossible to steer," he said.

While cruising at high speed during supercavitation, a fin could be snapped off if it touched the water because of the liquid's far greater density.

Despite many scientists worldwide working on similar projects, the latest progress remains unclear because they are regarded as military secrets.

Wang said even he had been kept in the dark about recent supercavitation developments in China.

"The primary drive still comes from the military, so most research projects are shrouded in secrecy," he said.
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A supersonic submarine LOL
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brar_w wrote:A supersonic submarine LOL
Stop bursting their bubble!!!
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^^^^ Something the Soviets were experimenting with just before they went under so the R&D was lost to storage..
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On the topic of super-cavitation:

Is the Navy missing the boat on the stealthy Ghost warship?
It surpasses 50 knots (57 mph) by surrounding each ski with a bubble of air that helps it cut through water much easier than regular boats. It's a concept called super-cavitation.
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if naval propellers go to huge extents like shrouded props and highly skewed 7-bladed to reduce cavitation, wont this in comparison create huge noise and attract fast torpedoes like bees to honey?

for a short range nuclear last resort weapon like Shkval that is meant as a counter-fire weapon against enemy subs at close range (with inbound torps already in the water) that is OK. but as a method of propulsion it might make sense only when needing to escape at high speed and outrun torpedoes and helicopters?
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Portsmouth-based HMS Illustrious retires from Navy

Is it possible for India to get any Harriers?
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I DOnt think IN wants Sea Harriers, the IN versions are heavily customised and will be retired soon.
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kmkraoind wrote:Portsmouth-based HMS Illustrious retires from Navy

Is it possible for India to get any Harriers?
Too late. They were sold to USMC to be used as spares.

Languishing in Arizona, our once-mighty fleet of Harriers... sold for the price of just ONE of their US-made replacements
PUBLISHED: 09:16 AEST, 3 June 2012 | UPDATED: 09:16 AEST, 3 June 2012

They were once the pride of Britain’s RAF and Royal Navy – but now these stripped-down Harrier vertical take-off jump jets sit like skeletons in the famous US aircraft ‘Boneyard’ in the Arizona desert.

The once iconic aircraft – whose original versions first saw active service more than 40 years ago – are among some of the 72 Harriers that Britain prematurely scrapped and then sold to America for a knockdown £116 million last November.

They are now used for spare parts for US Harriers, which America still consider viable fighting planes.

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Last bit of testing before the Aircraft goes back to its home base..

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A keeper:



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Another oldie.

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Breaking news--- France halts sell of Mistral to Russsia... BBC
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Prithwiraj wrote:Breaking news--- France halts sell of Mistral to Russsia... BBC
If the price is right, we should be piloting it.!!!
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Chances for Juan Carlos design increased little bit more for the Indian tender.
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6 advanced Kilos built in just 6 years and training the Vietnamese submariners from scratch too,a remarkable achievement. Had the IN similar common sense,we could've had another 4 new KIlo subs replacing older ones by now had we placed orders just 4 years ago.That too for approx just $300M a sub,half the price of a Scorpene.

Check the link for a pic of a model of a Russian sub which looks very similar to the Arihant,definitely the ATV's elder brother,with an apparent larger missile module.Can someone post it in the IN/ATV td. please?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/ ... SF20140907
Vietnam building deterrent against China in disputed seas with submarines
By Greg Torode

HONG KONG Sun Sep 7, 2014

Sailors look at a model of a submarine which is scheduled for delivery to Vietnam in 2013, in Vietnam's northern port city of Hai Phong, in this October 21, 2011 file picture. REUTERS/Kham

Sailors look at a model of a submarine which is scheduled for delivery to Vietnam in 2013, in Vietnam's northern port city of Hai Phong, in this October 21, 2011 file picture.

(Reuters) - Vietnam will soon have a credible naval deterrent to China in the South China Sea in the form of Kilo-class submarines from Russia, which experts say could make Beijing think twice before pushing its much smaller neighbor around in disputed waters.

A master of guerrilla warfare, Vietnam has taken possession of two of the state-of-the-art submarines and will get a third in November under a $2.6 billion deal agreed with Moscow in 2009. A final three are scheduled to be delivered within two years.

While communist parties rule both Vietnam and China and annual trade has risen to $50 billion, Hanoi has long been wary of China, especially over Beijing's claims to most of the potentially energy-rich South China Sea. Beijing's placement of an oil rig in waters claimed by Vietnam earlier this year infuriated Hanoi but the coastguard vessels it dispatched to the platform were always chased off by larger Chinese boats.

The Vietnamese are likely to run so-called area denial operations off its coast and around its military bases in the Spratly island chain of the South China Sea once the submarines are fully operational, experts said.

That would complicate Chinese calculations over any military move against Vietnamese holdings in the Spratlys or in the event of an armed clash over disputed oil fields, even though China has a much larger navy, including a fleet of 70 submarines, they added.

"Sea denial means creating a psychological deterrent by making sure a stronger naval rival never really knows where your subs might be," said Collin Koh of Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

"It is classic asymmetric warfare utilized by the weak against the strong and something I think the Vietnamese understand very well. The question is whether they can perfect it in the underwater dimension."

TRAINING RUNS

Vietnam is not wasting time getting to grips with its biggest ever arms purchase, the centerpiece of a naval expansion program that state media has kept largely under wraps.

From the sheltered harbor of Cam Ranh Bay - home to a massive U.S. military base during the Vietnam War - the first two submarines have recently been sighted plying the Vietnamese coast on training runs, according to regional diplomats.

A Vietnamese crew is training aboard its third Kilo in waters off St Petersburg ahead of its delivery to Cam Ranh Bay in November, Russia's Interfax news agency reported last month.

And a fourth vessel is undergoing sea trials off the Russian city's Admiralty Shipyard while the last two are being built.

While regional military attaches and experts are trying to gauge how quickly Vietnamese crews are mastering the advanced submarines, some believe it won't be too long before Hanoi starts sending them further offshore into the South China Sea.

"The Vietnamese have changed the whole scenario – they already have two submarines, they have the crews and they appear to have the weapons and their capabilities and experience will be growing from this point," said Siemon Wezeman, an arms transfer researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

"From the point of view of Chinese assumptions, the Vietnamese deterrent is already at a point where it must be very real."

As well as possessing shorter-range torpedoes, modern Kilos while submerged can launch sea-skimming anti-ship missiles that can travel 300 km (188 miles).

Wezeman said SIPRI estimated that Vietnam had received at least 10 of the 50 Klub anti-ship missiles this year as part of the deal with Moscow, but there was no sign of any purchases of the Klub land-attack variant.

Zhang Baohui, a Chinese security specialist at Hong Kong's Lingnan University, said he believed Beijing's military planners were concerned about the submarines.

"On a theoretical level, the Vietnamese are at the point where they could put them to combat use," he said.

Neither China's Defense Ministry nor its Foreign Ministry responded to a request for comment.

"DEFENSIVE" WEAPONS

Senior Vietnamese military officials told Reuters they were satisfied with progress, saying training at sea and integration of the submarines into its developing naval force was going smoothly.

They stopped short of confirming whether the first two were fully operational but stressed they would be used "defensively".

"They are not our sole weapon, but part of a number of weapons we are developing to better protect our sovereignty. In that regard, the submarines will be defensive," said one military official in Hanoi who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

That echoes public comments from Deputy Defence Minister Nguyen Chi Vinh who has repeatedly stated, without mentioning China directly, that Vietnam would not start a conflict in the South China Sea but if one began "we would not just stand back and watch".

Vietnam – a traditional army power – has significantly expanded its navy in recent years, acquiring modern frigates and corvettes, mostly from Russia, that are equipped with anti-ship and anti-submarine weapons.

Hanoi has also embarked on a building program of ships based on Russian designs.

Vietnam and China have a bloody history, fighting a brief border war in 1979. They clashed at sea in 1988 when China occupied its first holdings in the Spratlys. China also took full control of another South China Sea island chain, the Paracels, after a naval showdown with the then South Vietnam in 1974.

Former Western submariners watching developments said they were impressed with the apparent progress despite the enormity of the challenge for Vietnam in developing a submarine capability from scratch.

By comparison, the Philippines, the other country most at loggerheads with Beijing in the South China Sea, has no submarines or modern naval surface ships or significant naval aircraft.

Even before Vietnam took delivery of its first Kilo in January, Vietnamese submariners had been receiving training in Russia, Hanoi's Cold War-era patron.

India's navy is also training Vietnamese crews at its INS Satavahana submarine center in Andhra Pradesh state, an Indian naval official told Reuters. India has operated Kilos since the mid-1980s.

"It is not just about learning basic operational considerations, it is about the doctrine and tactics of how best to exploit these vessels – and making sure you've got a long-term program to build all this up," one Western submariner said.

MORE ADVANCED THAN CHINA'S KILOS


The diesel-electric Kilo is considered one of the quietest submarines and has been constantly refined since the 1980s.


Vasily Kashin, a Moscow-based strategic analyst, said he believed Vietnam's Kilos were more technologically advanced than the 12 such vessels operated by China's navy, which obtained its last one a decade ago.
Internal sound absorption had been improved, along with weapon control and loading systems, he said.


Open source satellite images have shown Kilos alongside new Russian-built submarine wharves at Cam Ranh Bay, as well as a new dry dock for repairs. A medical facility for submariners has also been completed nearby, according to Russian media reports.


Russian personnel are also stationed at a new Russian-built training center in Cam Ranh, which includes simulators of control, navigation and weapons systems.

U.S. forces used the bay's sheltered features to build a vast airport and logistics base at the height of the Vietnam War in the 1960s, when Cam Ranh was part of the then South Vietnam.
By late 1978 it was in Soviet hands, as a victorious Hanoi signed over base rights to Moscow. In disrepair through much of the 1990s, the Russians could not negotiate an extension and departed in 2002.

Across the harbor from the sensitive submarine facilities, the Vietnamese are expanding ship repair yards they hope will attract a range of foreign navies at commercial rates.
The U.S. navy has sent several logistics ships for servicing but a more formal arrangement has yet to be agreed.

Former Western submariners say Cam Ranh's location is perfect for Vietnam's Kilos.
Not only is it the closest large port to the Spratlys to the south, it is also within range of the Paracels.
And while much of the South China Sea is shallow and presents difficult operating conditions for submarines, Cam Ranh is close to some of the deeper water off the edge of Vietnam's continental shelf.

"No-one should underestimate the Vietnamese – they have a clear threat and that gives them an extra incentive," said Wezeman of SIPRI.

(Additional reporting by Megha Rajagopalan in Beijing, Martin Petty in Hanoi and Tommy Wilkes in New Delhi; Editing by Dean Yates)
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The future is already here.lasers and rail guns.

http://somd.com/news/headlines/2014/18541.shtml
CNO Tours Navy Electromagnetic Railgun and Directed Energy Facilities, Hosts All Hands Call
Posted on September 07, 2014

By John Joyce, NSWC Dahlgren Division Corporate Communications

DAHLGREN, Va. (Sept. 4, 2014) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert displays half of an Electromagnetic Railgun projectile customized with a command coin commemorating Greenert's visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division where he was briefed and shown demonstrations of the railgun, Real-Time Spectrum Operations and the Laser Weapons System (LaWS). During his visit, Greenert also held an all-hands call with Naval Support Facility South Potomac Sailors, civilians and family members to discuss the current and future status of the Navy. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Peter D. Lawlor/Released)
DAHLGREN, Va. (Sept. 4, 2014) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert displays half of an Electromagnetic Railgun projectile customized with a command coin commemorating Greenert's visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division where he was briefed and shown demonstrations of the railgun, Real-Time Spectrum Operations and the Laser Weapons System (LaWS). During his visit, Greenert also held an all-hands call with Naval Support Facility South Potomac Sailors, civilians and family members to discuss the current and future status of the Navy. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Peter D. Lawlor/Released)

DAHLGREN, Va. -- Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) leaders briefed Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert on technologies ranging from the electromagnetic railgun to the laser weapon system during his visit here Thursday, Sept. 4.

The CNO spoke to Sailors and civilian technologists about the great impact of emerging capabilities on the current and future fleet during an All Hands call held after his tour.

"You are the test and evaluation national treasure that makes the surface fleet more lethal and more survivable," Greenert told more than 400 military, government, and contractor personnel from Naval Support Facility Dahlgren, NSWCDD, Aegis Training and Readiness Center, Center for Surface Combat Systems, Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense, Joint Warfare and Analysis Center, and the 614th Air and Space Operations Center.

DAHLGREN, Va. (Sept. 4, 2014) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert observes a live-fire demonstration of the Laser Weapons System (LaWS) at the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division where he was also briefed and shown demonstrations of the Electromagnetic Railgun and Real-Time Spectrum Operations. During his visit, Greenert also held an all-hands call with Naval Support Facility South Potomac Sailors, civilians and family members to discuss the current and future status of the Navy. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Peter D. Lawlor/Released)
DAHLGREN, Va. (Sept. 4, 2014) - Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert observes a live-fire demonstration of the Laser Weapons System (LaWS) at the Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division where he was also briefed and shown demonstrations of the Electromagnetic Railgun and Real-Time Spectrum Operations. During his visit, Greenert also held an all-hands call with Naval Support Facility South Potomac Sailors, civilians and family members to discuss the current and future status of the Navy. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Peter D. Lawlor/Released)

The national treasure he observed included NSWCDD facilities where real-time spectrum operations and directed energy technologies such as the laser weapon system and electromagnetic railgun are under a continual state of research, development, test and evaluation.

"I am really excited - you are taking concepts and putting it in the fleet for what is, up until now, record time," said Greenert, pointing out that NSWCDD scientists and engineers are integrating the laser weapon system into the USS Ponce (AFSB-I), an Austin-class amphibious transport dock.

"We have to continue to turn this cycle faster and faster," said Greenert, standing on a stage facing a 16-inch naval gun displayed at the end of the parade field. "Technology gets proliferated and other people have systems that we really don't want them to have. We have to figure out how to defeat and stay ahead of that - and be where it matters, when it matters."

SAN DIEGO (July 30, 2012) - The Laser Weapon System (LaWS) temporarily installed aboard the guided-missile destroyer USS Dewey (DDG 105) in San Diego, Calif., is a technology demonstrator built by the Naval Sea Systems Command from commercial fiber solid state lasers, utilizing combination methods developed at the Naval Research Laboratory. "I am really excited - you are taking concepts and putting it in the fleet for what is, up until now, record time," said Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert at an All Hands call concluding his Sept. 4, 2014 visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD). The CNO added that NSWCDD scientists and engineers are currently integrating LaWS into the USS Ponce (AFSB-I), an Austin-class amphibious transport dock. The installation of the laser weapon system on Ponce for at-sea testing in the Persian Gulf fulfills plans the CNO announced at the 2013 Sea-Air-Space Expo. The deployment on Ponce will prove crucial as the Navy continues its push to provide laser weapons to the fleet at large. (U.S. Navy photo by John F. Williams/Released)
SAN DIEGO (July 30, 2012) - The Laser Weapon System (LaWS) temporarily installed aboard the guided-missile destroyer USS Dewey (DDG 105) in San Diego, Calif., is a technology demonstrator built by the Naval Sea Systems Command from commercial fiber solid state lasers, utilizing combination methods developed at the Naval Research Laboratory. "I am really excited - you are taking concepts and putting it in the fleet for what is, up until now, record time," said Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. Jonathan Greenert at an All Hands call concluding his Sept. 4, 2014 visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD). The CNO added that NSWCDD scientists and engineers are currently integrating LaWS into the USS Ponce (AFSB-I), an Austin-class amphibious transport dock. The installation of the laser weapon system on Ponce for at-sea testing in the Persian Gulf fulfills plans the CNO announced at the 2013 Sea-Air-Space Expo. The deployment on Ponce will prove crucial as the Navy continues its push to provide laser weapons to the fleet at large. (U.S. Navy photo by John F. Williams/Released)

The installation of the laser weapon system on Ponce for at-sea testing in the Persian Gulf fulfills plans the CNO announced at the 2013 Sea-Air-Space Expo. The deployment on Ponce will prove crucial as the Navy continues its push to provide laser weapons to the fleet at large.

The CNO - who observed an electromagnetic railgun firing - described the technology as "our future surface weapon" during the All Hands event to be available video on-demand via the NSWCDD internal website to the command's 6,000 plus personnel comprised of government civilians, contractors, and military members.

DAHLGREN, Va. - An artist rendering shows the Office of Naval Research-funded electromagnetic railgun installed aboard the joint high-speed vessel USNS Millinocket (JHSV 3). Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert - who observed an electromagnetic railgun firing on Sept. 4, 2014 during his visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) - described the technology as "our future surface weapon" during an All Hands call. The railgun is a long-range weapon that launches projectiles using electricity instead of chemical propellants and is currently undergoing testing at Naval Sea Systems Command, Dahlgren Division. (U.S. Navy photo illustration/Released)
DAHLGREN, Va. - An artist rendering shows the Office of Naval Research-funded electromagnetic railgun installed aboard the joint high-speed vessel USNS Millinocket (JHSV 3). Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert - who observed an electromagnetic railgun firing on Sept. 4, 2014 during his visit to Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) - described the technology as "our future surface weapon" during an All Hands call. The railgun is a long-range weapon that launches projectiles using electricity instead of chemical propellants and is currently undergoing testing at Naval Sea Systems Command, Dahlgren Division. (U.S. Navy photo illustration/Released)

The electromagnetic railgun launcher is a long-range weapon that fires projectiles using electricity instead of chemical propellants. Magnetic fields created by high electrical currents accelerate a sliding metal conductor, or armature, between two rails to launch projectiles at 4,500 mph to 5,600 miles per hour.

Moreover, Greenert considers the system a revolutionary technology that gives the Navy an extremely affordable, multi-mission weapon with a deep magazine and unmatched precision, targeting and control functions. Since lasers run on electricity, they can be fired as long as there is power and provide a measure of safety as they don't require carrying propellants and explosives aboard ships. The advancing technology gives Sailors a variety of options they never had before, including the ability to control a laser weapon's output and perform actions ranging from non-lethal disabling and deterrence all the way up to destruction.

The CNO congratulated three NSWCDD employees as Capt. Mary Feinberg, Naval Support Activity South Potomac commanding officer, read award citations commending their role in turning ships into warships. Greenert later recounted for all hands in attendance that NSWCDD Commander Capt. Brian Durant presented him with a coin inscribed with the command's slogan, "we don't build ships, we turn them into warships".

The three employees receiving awards were Dr. James Moreland, Michael Purello and Kevin Stottlar.

The CNO presented Moreland with the Navy Distinguished Civilian Service Award for his leadership on an extensive range of naval, joint and coalition efforts to develop and implement innovative strategic concepts to shape future requirements, organizational strategy, and operational doctrine under strict constraints and timelines. "Dr. Moreland demonstrated this expertise by implementing a structured mission engineering approach for the Vice Chief of Naval Operations Integration and Interoperability Activity to emphasize capability-based requirements," according to the citation.

Greenert presented the Navy Superior Civilian Service Award to Purello in recognition of significant leadership as NSWCDD Chemical, Biological and Radiological Defense (CBRD) Division Head. "Purello led the unprecedented technical advancements of the CBRD Division and propelled NSWC Dahlgren Division to the forefront of the Joint Service and international CBRD community," according to the citation. "In addition, Mr. Purello's coordination efforts in the aftermath of the radiological contamination event at Fukushima, Japan, led to NAVSEA (Naval Sea Systems Command)establishing the Dahlgren Radiological Control Data Center. Finally, he led NSWCDD's highly successful 2013 Individuals with Targeted Disabilities campaign, thereby demonstrating his commitment to the human aspect of technology development."

The CNO presented the Navy Superior Civilian Service Award to Stottlar for his outstanding service, technical expertise, and superior leadership in support of advancing weapon and combat system safety engineering. "Throughout his Navy career, his dedication to advancing weapon and combat system safety engineering has led to enhanced safety engineering processes and methodologies, and has resulted in safer, more effective AEGIS and AEGIS Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities being deployed in the Fleet," according to the citation. "Mr. Stottlar has influenced U.S. Navy systems safety policy and has expanded the scope of system safety engineering for foreign military sales."

The CNO is the senior military officer of the Department of the Navy. The CNO is a four star admiral and is responsible to the secretary of the Navy for the command, utilization of resources, and operating efficiency of the operating forces of the Navy and of the Navy shore activities assigned by the Secretary.

NSWCDD, a NAVSEA warfare center division, is a premier research and development center that serves as a specialty site for weapon system integration. The command's unique ability to rapidly introduce new technology into complex warfighting systems is based on its longstanding competencies in science and technology, research and development, and test and evaluation.
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The Dakota , the newest virginia class sub ..one cannot but help noticing the pump jet propulsion ..the thing would be almost noiseless at low speeds ! coupled with the new gen reactor almost unlimited range as well
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Pentagon report says Iran is fielding anti-ship ballistic missiles

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Iran's Khalij Fars anti-ship ballistic missile (AShBM) - a weapon that could shift the military balance in the Gulf region - is being delivered to operational units, according to the US Department of Defense's annual report to Congress on the Islamic Republic's military capabilities.

"Tehran is quietly fielding increasingly lethal symmetric and asymmetric weapon systems, including more advanced naval mines, small but capable submarines, coastal defence cruise missile batteries, attack craft, and anti-ship ballistic missiles," the report's declassified executive summary said.

This is the first corroboration of Iranian claims that the AShBM is in service. US officials declined to comment further on the report, which was submitted to Congress in January.

The Khalij Fars is a version of the Fateh-110 tactical ballistic missile with an electro-optical (EO) seeker that enables it to home in on a ship's infrared signature in its terminal phase. The Iranian media has reported that the missile has the same 300 km range and 650 kg warhead as the more recent versions of the Fateh-110.

Vice Admiral James Syring, the director of the US Missile Defense Agency, submitted a statement to a Congressional subcommittee in June saying: "This ballistic missile has a range of 300 km, which means it is capable of threatening maritime activity throughout the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz." Vice Adm Syring confirmed the AShBM had been flight tested, but did not comment on whether it was operational.

The Khalij Fars would be harder to intercept than Iran's conventional anti-ship missiles due to its significantly higher velocity (said to be Mach 3) and parabolic trajectory.

The missile was first unveiled in February 2011, when Iran released footage apparently showing it hitting a stationary ship. A second test was announced in July 2012, when Iranian television showed footage that appeared to have been filmed by the missile's seeker as it homed in on a floating platform that was moving.

While the Iranian media has reported since the February 2011 unveiling that the missile was being mass produced, it was not until 5 March 2014 that the Ministry of Defence held a ceremony in which multiple Khalij Fars were officially delivered to the military.

The eight Khalij Fars that featured in the ceremony had the tip of their noses covered by a protective cap, making it impossible to see the EO seeker that distinguishes them from the Fateh-110.

Analysts have previously been sceptical of Iran's AShBM programme. A paper published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) on 14 August said: "Experts feel … Iran has little or no operational capability to use the Khalij Fars … or any ballistic missile or long-range rocket in the anti-ship [role]."

The CSIS report said Iran did not have an effective way to acquire and track over-the-horizon targets so that the missile's guidance system could be programmed and then updated during flight to ensure its seeker could find the target in its terminal phase.

It nevertheless said: "Iran potentially could alter the regional naval balance if it ever did reach such a level of sophistication in guidance, range, reliability, and operational accuracy."
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China And Russia’s Nuclear Submarines Capable Of Striking American Bases, Says U.S. Navy
China and Russia’s nuclear submarine capabilities have been increasing rapidly in recent years and the U.S. Navy is already assessing how it will change its strategy based upon recent advancements in technology. A U.S. Navy Admiral is also warning that both the Chinese and Russian navy are becoming capable of striking American bases.

In a related report by The Inquisitr, the Russian military successfully tested a Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launched from the Russian nuclear submarine the Vladimir Monomakh. The test nuclear missile flew from the White Sea near Russia’s border with Finland and hit its target nearly 3,500 miles away on the Kamchatka peninsula north of Japan. This was considered significant since the Bulava ICBM has suffered repeated glitches in the past which lead to launch failures. Vladimir Putin also discussed a 2016-2025 Russian nuclear weapons modernization program focused on creating a “guaranteed nuclear deterrent.”

Navy Vice Adm. Michael Connor made a comparison to the Cold War when discussing recent world events, but also seemed to indicate that China was a potential threat instead of just Russia.

“The Soviet Union devolved into Russia but they kept their nuclear capabilities,” Connor said. “They are now re-growing those capabilities and others. As they re-grow, we find that modern Russia appears to have some aspirations both territory-wise and influence-wise that are reminiscent of the way they behaved when we had the Soviet Union. The world has become multi-polar and we have competition for global influence and power from a rising China — which is also very much on our mind. The Chinese have had ballistic missile submarines in some form for a while. Their pace has accelerated and they have several nuclear ballistic missile submarines and are continuing to build more.”

The Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) believes the Chinese Navy is now “increasingly capable of striking targets hundreds of miles from the Chinese mainland” and the deployment of the Jin SSBN “would mark China’s first credible at-sea-second-strike nuclear capability.” ONI even believes China’s nuclear ICBM aboard the new submarine would “enable the Jin to strike Hawaii, Alaska and possibly western portions of CONUS [continental United States] from East Asian waters.” According to Stars and Stripes, China’s nuclear weapons capabilities have also been augmented by the HK-6 bomber, a nuclear-capable aircraft with a range of about 2,000 miles, and the Dong Feng-41 ICBM, capable of launching multiple nuclear warheads.

An article from China Daily Mail reports that the Chinese language news site Qianzhan is claiming that “China’s reclamation in key areas in the South China Sea will enable China to set up naval and air bases for anti-submarine aircrafts and warships to contain US nuclear submarines.” In addition, when “China’s new nuclear submarines have been commissioned and communication technology improved, Chinese nuclear submarines will be able to operate near the U.S.” The article does note that since China’s nuclear weapons have long range capability some believe “it is not necessary for a Chinese strategic nuclear submarines to cruise near the U.S. to make American people nervous.”
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The chances of Pakistanis nuking U.S is far higher than Russians or Chinese.
Recent event of Jihadi Navy of Pakistan taking over a ship to target U.S Navy is itself an indication of existing and upcoming threats.
Shortly you could watch an Armada of Paki ships lead by USS McInerney (U.S gift :lol: ) sailing with nukes to target U.S ships.
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A massive build up of Russia's Black Sea fleet,a second naval base to b built which will give it far more capability in the Meditt. Sea apartf rom countering any hostile action in the Black Sea by NATO forces.
Russian naval construction is on a roll,with nuclear and conventional subs being built at record speed matching construction during Soviet times.

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September 26, 2014
Russia Adding 80 New Warships to Black Sea Fleet
By MarEx

Russia will increase its Black Sea fleet with more than 80 new warships by 2020 and will complete a second naval base for the fleet near the city of Novorossiysk by 2016, its commander said on Tuesday of this week.

In comments made to President Vladimir Putin as he visited the port city, Vice Admiral Alexander Vitko said a second Black Sea base was needed in addition to the main base on the Crimea peninsula annexed from Ukraine because of NATO expansion.

"Eighty ships and other vessels are expected to arrive (in Novorossiysk) before 2020. The Black Sea Fleet will have 206 ships and vessels by 2020," Vitko told Putin.

"NATO ships are constantly present in the Black Sea and it plans to establish a naval base in the Black Sea," he added.

NATO has regularly conducted naval exercises in the Black Sea, especially since Russia annexed Crimea, populated mainly by ethnic Russians, in March partly from fear that Ukraine's new pro-Western authorities might try to join the Atlantic alliance.

A NATO official told Reuters in Brussels there were no alliance plans to build a Black Sea base but said it already had access to the resources of member states in the region.

"Our Black Sea allies have ports that we use from time to time but (there are) no plans to build a "Nato" base as suggested," the official said.

Three NATO members have a Black Sea coastline - Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey.

The former Soviet republic of Georgia, on the eastern shore of the Black Sea, has sought membership in the past but like Ukraine is very unlikely to be admitted any time soon due to Moscow's fierce opposition to NATO's further eastern expansion.

DEFENSE SPENDING

During NATO exercises in western Ukraine earlier this month, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu promised to boost the number of troops in Crimea.

On Tuesday, Shoigu was overseeing Russian military exercises involving 155,000 servicemen in the Far East. He told Putin in a video conference that the army's firepower and assault capabilities had increased lately as part of spending plans for the armed forces set to cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

"The firing, assault and maneuver capabilities ... have increased due to the supplies of modern weapons and equipment," Shoigu said.

Russia plans to spend 21 trillion rubles ($545 billion) by the end of the decade on refurbishing Russia's armed forces. Some of those funds will be used to improve the defense infrastructure of Crimea.

Russia has staged several military exercises this year, including near Ukraine's border, which have contributed to the tensions with the West, which sees the increased training as saber rattling amid the persistent disagreements over Ukraine.

(1 US dollar = 38.5400 Russian rouble)
BY VLADIMIR SOLDATKIN Reuters 2014..
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