Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

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Indian express is begining to sound more like Pakistan express,
Hmmm.
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Hassan Nisar's looooong rant on the peshabwar killings. Watch only if you have free time.
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Pakistani human rights activist refuses to accept that TTP == India.
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Hoodbhoy becomes Goodboy and also refuses to blame India
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pankajs wrote:Nothing new ..
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/isi ... 24206.html
ISI disappointed as Lashkar-e-Toiba failed to disrupt J&K polls: Report
The reports also claim that the Let militants are preparing to infiltrate into India in large numbers. Over 150 militants have been asked to infiltrate and target government buildings and politicians.
The Pakjabis seem desperate to provoke a major crisis with India.
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I've posted this video in its full version before.
But look at these seriously dumb Paki analysts displaying their sadness about India's foreign policy achievements.

Neighbour's envy indeed :rotfl:
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Yes, the firing and infiltration bids across the LOC is only the side show.
Pakistan's real target would be the Pravasi Bharatiya divas in Gandhinagar, Pres Obama's visit.

ISI and LET must be furitively trying to infiltrate their terrorists from every possible route, waking up sleeper cells.

Good to know that Indian Intel agencies are also upto speed and mustaid on their jobs. There will be much intel to be gathered during these days.
The pakis are going all out to do something big in India. If our intel can prevent something big, this will be a MAJOR achievement for them.
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pankajs wrote:Nothing new ..
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/isi ... 24206.html
ISI disappointed as Lashkar-e-Toiba failed to disrupt J&K polls: Report
The story is probably true, nevertheless to publish a story like this without giving any actual citation of the source that it came from is rather silly. I will just ascribe it to DDMitis.
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Benis worthy ...
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So ISI has been sending SMSs to all and sundry in Al Bakistan, blaming India for the Peshabwar attacks, maligning Badmash Sharif, and calling him Indian Bunniya's trading partner.

I Ass I trying to kill many birds with one stone as usual
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BBC hindi report on J&K elections, story from POK and J&K.
One can see the POK leaders spouting the propagandu that was on Paki TV channels.
One can see the Harried Rats spouting BS, because they fear being completely sidelined.
One can see mango kashmiris attending BJP rallies, kids wearing Modi masks

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Nandu wrote:On a totally different note. Has anybody been following the case of this Paki-American murderer? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -new-trial

He is being made a big deal of by the public radio crowd, with people clutching at all kinds of straws trying to portray him positively and to imply that he is innocent. To me, it is clear that he is the murderer, and if anything, his sentence is too light.
First I heard about it was a few days ago, when one of my friends was highly recommending a tv show called "Serial". I thought the name sounded somewhat Paki, but wasn't really sure (didn't know the middle name then).
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http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/vi ... ialid=2232
Ghulam Nabi Fai pokes up his head again, on the Pakistan Christian Post.
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Today is the 5th Anniversary of the 4th January 2010 landslide that dammed the Hunza river at Attabad / Gojal Valley thereby severing the Karakoram Highway (KKH), the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s sole land link with the People’s Republic of China.

For all the high decibel talk of “China-Pakistan Economic corridor” coming out of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, restoration of this road link which is fundamental to the scheme is moving at a snail’s pace :roll: .

Funnily the newspapers in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which have been gushing about the “China-Pakistan Economic corridor” have not written of this event despite today being the 5th anniversary of the landslide:

5 years of the Attabad Disaster and questions from leaders of Hunza!
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^^^
Completion of the realignment of the KKH, including the completion of a new bridge between the villages of Gulmit and Shishkat, is expected for late 2015 or early 2016.
This per this photo-essay from the University of Hamburg, Spring 2014.
http://www.ethnologie.uni-hamburg.de/de ... 2014-1.pdf
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sunnyP wrote:
The Pakjabis seem desperate to provoke a major crisis with India.
This is not surprising.

I won't dismiss this report that the ISI is miffed with the LeT either. But, we have to appreciate a few things before that.

The PA/ISI is not monolithic. There are essentially two factions as in Pakistan or in any other Islamic country for that matter. One is green and the other is greener. Of course, the greener will have many shades of green within itself but for convenience we clump them all together as one 'greener' group. Both groups have some commonalities such as hatred for India, the US and the Jews, and being 'tactically brilliant'.

The green PA/ISI has India on its radar, concentrates on milking the US and making money, sends its children to the West for education and eventual settling down there, wants to avenge its series of military defeats by India, is willing to seek any which way to achieve these goals but wants to be careful that its is not overwhelmed in the process by the darker forces. The green group helped the mujahideen and then created the Taliban too. They helped to create tanzeems like Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA), Harkat-ul-Jihadi-Islami (HuJI), Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM), Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) etc and directed them towards India. It included such people as Gen. Zia, Lt. Gen. Akhtar Rehman, the ISI Chief, Gen Aslam Beg, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, Maj Gen. Nasarullah Babar, Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Ahmed, Gen. Kayani, Gen. Musharraf et al. Their conviction was that the ISI could always control jihad and terror and ensure that these groups never disobeyed their command. But, even among this group were some greener Abduls such as Maj. Gen. Zaheerul Islam Abbassi and Brig. Mustansar Billah who along with Qari Saifullah Akhtar's HuJI and about 40 other Army officers tried to assassinate Ms. Benazir Bhutto and the COAS Gen. Waheed Kakar and establish a 'Caliphate'. Maj Gen Abbasi later joined SSP, the 'mother' of all jihadi and sectarian terror groups to actively work for establishing the Caliphate.

The greener variety within the PA/ISI also has India on its radar but that is part of the overall Caliphate project. It has its sights on the Pakistani nuclear weapons and their delivery systems first, it wants to have a firm foothold in Afghanistan (whether it is IS or AQIS, the two main worldwide jihadi groups at present) because that is adjunct to the nuclear-weapon Islamic state Pakistan and has its own geographical advantages too. The names of those who support them from within the PA/ISI may not be known now. But, we have to remember that the then ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmed claimed in a RAND interview in 2002 that 16% of the officer corps were Islamic radicals. That should itself have been a conservative estimate,not to raise alarms. In the decade since then, this should have doubled because of the various Islamist events and causes all over the world that had a great impact on Pakistan, events within Pakistan itself, the spread of extremist wahhabism/Deobandism in that country, the changing recruitment patterns away from the traditional Potohar region etc. This very radical 'greener' group may yet be biding its time leaving all the talking to the 'green' group thus presenting a misleading picture of a more reasonable Pakistani Army which is only worried about its existential threat, India.

In the last two years, things have changed for both these groups. The US announced the deadline for the withdrawal form Afghanistan and stuck to that. It withdrew from Iraq leading to a huge crisis there. It supported the ambitions of the Gulf monarchies in Syria leading to a very huge problem there. It supported the extremist Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt which created a turmoil. These events helped reinforce each other and created the IS, a breakaway faction of the Al Qaeda.

The 'green' and the 'greener' groups want to seize the opportunity of the developments in Afghanistan for their own evil reasons. As I said in my previous post on the three-way split within TTP, the PA/ISI is under a tremendous pressure from the IS. If recruits have flocked the IS from India, one can imagine the situation in the rage-boys land of Pakistan.

The re-alignments are of interest. Essentially, there seems to be two poles attracting the splintered TTP groups. (We still do not know what other mainline terror tanzeems like HuJI are thinking about these developments.) One is the Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi led IS (Dawalah Islamiyah or Islamic State) and the other is the Ayman Zawahiri-led AQ (Al Qaeda). One splinter of TTP, led by Asmatullah Mu’awiya is supporting AQ. In March 2013, Mu'awiya threatened India over the execution of Ajmal Kasab and Afzal Guru and vowed to target India once the US forces leave Afghanistan. This is a certain giveaway of his proximity to the 'green' group of the ISI.

Asmatullah Mu’awiya turning pro-sarkari in c. 2014 gives rise to the suspicion that AQ is being ‘appropriated’ by the Pakistani Army and the ISI for future operations against India. This is strengthened by various other utterances from other AQ leaders as well. Since July 2012, AQ has been issuing more threats to India than ever before. First, it was the Pakistani commander of the AQ, Farman Ali Shinwari who pledged ‘full support’ to the Kashmir cause. Then came Asmatullah Mu'awiya's threat about Kashmir. In June 2013, Al Qaeda leader Maulana Asim Umar, who is considered part of the Al Qaeda think tank in Pakistan and has been appointed head of the newly-formed AQIS, released a video message inviting Indian Muslims to join jihad. This message again contained references to US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan and warned of increased terrorist activities in India. Al Qaeda unveiled its strategic vision for the Indian subcontinent in July 2013, when in a video release Al Qaeda’s propaganda chief in Pakistan, Ustad Ahmad Farouq declared that “The war that is underway in the tribal area is the battle for the future of the whole of the Subcontinent”. On September 4, 2013, the AQ chief Ayman Al-Zawahiri announced Jamaat Qaidat al-jihad fi’shibhi al-qarrat al-Hindiya, or Organisation of The Base of Jihad in the Indian Sub-Continent or popularly known as Al Qaeda in Indian Subcontinent (AQIS).

The ISI and the LeT have been facing pressure due to their inability to mount large-scale attacks in India. This led to two top IM (Indian Mujahideen) operatives, Riyaz Bhatkal and Muhammad Ahmad Siddibapa, aka Yasin Bhatkal, to leave the ISI patronage. There appears to have been a serious attempt to get them within the folds of the AQIS. There were news reports about Riyaz Bhatkal meeting a senior AQ leader in Afghanistan. However, recent reports seem to indicate that the IM has moved to the IS. Ansar-ul-Tawhid Fi Bilad Al Hind (AuT), suspected to be the new outfit of the Bhatkals and based in Af-Pak region, released a statement on its twitter handle in English, Hindi and Urdu vowing to avenge the death of two Indian Mujahideen (IM) terrorists at Batala House in September 2008. The AUT is showing allegiance to the IS. The upsurge in the recruitment of Indian youth to the IS is seen as efforts by the AUT and IM. Thus, the PA/ISI is facing competition in what it used to consider as its backyard, India. Its ability to control the jihadi terror tanzeems is getting frayed all over.

The emergence of this new report that the ISI was unhappy with the LeT for its inability to disrupt the the December 2014 state elections in J&K where the voting percentage was at an unprecedented 70% or above in most places, is therefore not surprising.
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Women beating former Ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to the UN, Munir Akram writing in Dawn. Going by the article, :x Muneer Akram’s despicable act of beating up his live-in girlfriend Marijana Mihic in New York when serving as the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Ambassador to the UN and then taking shelter under diplomatic immunity and unfortunately escaping Pakistan’s Mohammadden religious law provision of being stoned to death for an act of adultery :x ( Pakistan ambassador in assault row) seems to have been eclipsed by the well deserved beating India is apparently giving the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in FATA 8) :

War in the shadows
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Times of India reports boat sunk by the Indian Coast Guard off the coast of Porbander was in “frequent touch with Pakistan army and Maritime Security Agency of Pakistan through a "contact".” Situation more and more looking like an event orchestrated by State Actors in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to harm India:
“Electronic chatter shows that two Pakistani fishing boats, one of which sank after being intercepted by the Coast Guard in the Arabian sea in early hours of January 1, were in frequent touch with Pakistan army and Maritime Security Agency of Pakistan through a "contact".”
And for our domestic sceptics who are consciously or unconsciously providing a burqua / burka of plausible deniability to elements in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan indulging in an unlawful activity, be it terrorism or smuggling or both, let me point out, as has the Indian Coast Guard, that flight is deemed as suspicious by Law Enforcement authorities anywhere in the world and exercise of force to prevent flight is a legitimate use of force by enforcement authorities:
"It was rogue boat, which repeatedly ignored warnings to stop, switched off its lights and tried to speed away in an area where Pakistani fishing vessels do not usually come. It's easy to raise questions about the operation but can one imagine what would been the consequences if the boat had managed to evade the security net," said an official. ……………………………

"The Coast Guard regularly intercepts Pakistani fishing boats when they come into our waters without shots being fired or people being killed. This vessel, however, behaved very suspiciously. No fishing nets were down, neither were the people dressed like fishermen," said the official.
Wireless intercepts indicate ‘terror’ boats were in touch with Pakistani army
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All it takes is "one" to get through our security net and we will have hundreds of dead Indians. I am optimistic but we have traitors in our midst and our history is filled with the inner guy opening the gates for the enemy. It is just a matter of time before one gets through. I am hoping Doval-Modi would make the "success" for ISI a damn expensive one. It should come with such a huge price tag that they can only repeat it once in a decade or less. One strike on India and we blow their kids into smoke. We will exclusively target school kids for every paki success. 10 Indians = 100 Paki ISI/Army school kids. and the response will increase exponentially not linearly.. Lets see if they can keep up.
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HIJACK_ALERT_DELHI_KABUL_AIR_INDIA_EOM
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^^^ You made me look. Old trick, hijacks are out of fashion. Not happening around 1/26. Would "they" like to? Thats like saying sky has turned blue. When did they not?
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A week of cross border attacks on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by countries responding to Pakistani provocations.

Week commenced with brotherly Iran pounding Pakistan:

Cross border shelling from Iran injures 7 Pakistanis

That was followed by India responding to Pakistani provocations:

India Retaliates After Soldier is Killed, 4 Pakistani Jawans Dead

The week now ends with the US arranging a visit from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s “National Bird” aka Drone:

U.S. Drone Strike Said to Kill Militants in Pakistan

Afghanistan seems to have missed out though.
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arun wrote:Times of India reports boat sunk by the Indian Coast Guard off the coast of Porbander was in “frequent touch with Pakistan army and Maritime Security Agency of Pakistan through a "contact".” Situation more and more looking like an event orchestrated by State Actors in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to harm India . .
I agree. If some in the media or political circles are questioning the actions of GoI, CG etc, they must be motivated by other reasons. They must know that it is impossible to have a smoking gun for such cross-border terrorism especially when backed by powerful Armies and Intelligence agencies. History shows, like a festering sore in our palm, what terror Pakistan has inflicted upon us over the last six decades. It is unbelievable that some Indians are perfectly willing to question the actions of our own government in providing security. They will also be the first to cry foul when security is breached.
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Deleted. Old irrelevant Article.

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So, sea-route has been in vogue. It makes it all the more interesting therefore why aspersions are being cast on the CG & GoI now for acting? I would welcome even if the CG had deliberately sunk the boat rather than attempting to 'capture' these terrorists and their consignments, for lives of Indian CG personnel are more important than conducting a high-risk VBSS.
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SSridhar wrote:
So, sea-route has been in vogue. It makes it all the more interesting therefore why aspersions are being cast on the CG & GoI now for acting? I would welcome even if the CG had deliberately sunk the boat rather than attempting to 'capture' these terrorists and their consignments, for lives of Indian CG personnel are more important than conducting a high-risk VBSS.
SSridhar Ji :

Agreed.

Regarding the CG Officials let the Eight Pakistani Terrorists scot free the folowing points arise :

1. Is this the First Time?

2. If the Coast Guard can be bribed then so can the Other Defence Service Personnel.

3. Thus, it is possible that the Strategic Forces Army, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, Police etc. can be compromised by the Enemy/ies of India.

4. What steps, by GOI, must be taken to remove this, possibly deep seated, affliction?

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Peregrine sahib, thanks!! and apologies if i was harsh
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fanne wrote:Peregrine sahib, nice psyops. Bringing years old report ( partial facts not reporting that these guys were caught and punished), to a discussion at hand so that enough doubt can be casted on cg version of things. Btw what are your sources telling?
fanne Ji :

1. "psyops" : Far be it from me any such intentions.

2. My apologies for having posted the Article and am now deleting it.

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Peregrine ji, we may have a thousand faults but when our forces kill our enemies on grounds of (even suspicious) terror activities, we welcome their actions, not question them. Where is the need to question when those killed are our worst enemies? I am appalled at some of our media and politicians who are scoring same side goals as though there are virtues in war and somehow we alone need to uphold them at every instant.
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SSridhar wrote:Peregrine ji, we may have a thousand faults but when our forces kill our enemies on grounds of (even suspicious) terror activities, we welcome their actions, not question them. Where is the need to question when those killed are our worst enemies? I am appalled at some of our media and politicians who are scoring same side goals as though there are virtues in war and somehow we alone need to uphold them at every instant.
SSridhar Ji :

My sentiments entirely. The questions raised by our MSM & Politicians in repsect of the Killing of the Terrorists are totally unjustified.

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Pakistan abducts two boats with 12 Indian fishermen - ToI
Four days after a Pakistani fishing boat allegedly carrying explosives was intercepted by the Indian Coast Guard off the coast of Gujarat, Pakistan abducted two fishing boats with 12 Indian fishermen.

According to reports, boats named - Jhelelal and Jalaram - with 12 fishermen were abducted from international marine boundary line on Saturday night.
If the Pakistanis had indeed abducted our boats from international waters, India must suitably retaliate and take 10x hostages. It is easy to play the same game. The war is escalating.

Pakistani plot is whether its terror succeeds or fails, it wants to turn the situation to its advantage. This has to be seen in the light of their defence minister vowing that they will 'talk to India' in a different language.
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Folks, read up on PBUHs Caravan raiding expeditions. Great similarity here.
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SSridhar wrote: This is not surprising.

I won't dismiss this report that the ISI is miffed with the LeT either. But, we have to appreciate a few things before that.

The PA/ISI is not monolithic. There are essentially two factions as in Pakistan or in any other Islamic country for that matter. One is green and the other is greener. Of course, the greener will have many shades of green within itself but for convenience we clump them all together as one 'greener' group. Both groups have some commonalities such as hatred for India, the US and the Jews, and being 'tactically brilliant'.

..............

The emergence of this new report that the ISI was unhappy with the LeT for its inability to disrupt the the December 2014 state elections in J&K where the voting percentage was at an unprecedented 70% or above in most places, is therefore not surprising.
SSridar, bravo!

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abducting 12 of their wont help, those pigs wont care, just kill 24 pak army pigs
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This guy is some Pakistan equivalent of a journalist,I think:
https://twitter.com/WajSKhan/status/551609010265157632

"Token Mossie Singing for Indian Media/Establishment
@ANI_news: Pak is trying to create problems for India, Qamar Agha, Security Expert"
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Pak blast: 5 killed during football match in tribal region
PESHAWAR: At least five people, including some football players were killed and 11 injured on Sunday in a bomb attack in Pakistan's restive north western tribal region during a match, officials said.
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Goons attacking citizens when they were peacefully lighting candles for Shaheed ‪#‎SalmaanTaseer‬
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Peregrine wrote:Pak blast: 5 killed during football match in tribal region
PESHAWAR: At least five people, including some football players were killed and 11 injured on Sunday in a bomb attack in Pakistan's restive north western tribal region during a match, officials said.
They were all Shias living in Islamic society.
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