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http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Koc ... 919020.ece
The first warship exported by India — Mauritius Coast Guard ship Barracuda, a multirole vessel that was built by the public sector shipyard Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Kolkata, and delivered late last year — is in Kochi to train its aviation team in search and rescue operations.

The ship docked at the Navy’s south jetty here while on passage to Mauritius.

Barracuda was built following a contract between the governments of India and Mauritius, in line with India’s strategy of facilitating friendly maritime forces in the region to build capability and capacity to secure the seas of shared interest against untoward occurrences.

The ship has a mixed crew of 62 and is captained by Commander Rajneesh Kumar Dalal, an Indian Navy officer on deputation to the Mauritius government to assist its National Coast Guard in acquiring the skill sets necessary for operating complex vessels of this class.

MCG’s Assistant Superintendent of Police O.K. Guness is Barracuda’s executive officer. “The ship, result of the close cooperation between both governments, will be the largest vessel to be operated by the Mauritius Coast Guard on induction,” Cdr Dalal said during an interaction with the media.

Barracuda was built at a cost of Rs. 400 crore, under a credit-cum-grant scheme of the Government of India.
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http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/03 ... pabilities
Russia’s navy chief says Moscow plans to boost the country’s naval capabilities by expanding its naval fleet with 50 ships this year.

Admiral Viktor Chirkov made the announcement on Monday, saying the vessels will be of various sizes and classes.

The Russian navy is to receive new frigates and patrol boats as well as surface ships and nuclear submarines of the new generation Borei and Yasen classes, which are to replace Russia’s aging underwater nuclear vessels from the Soviet-era.

Russian media reported that the new vessels are part of a rearmament program launched by President Vladimir Putin aimed at providing the country with a navy capable of operating far from Russian homeland by the year 2050, an ability lost after the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. Currently, the country’s navy is mainly focused on a coastal defense role.

“The period of stagnation in the development of our potential has long since passed,” said Chirkov.

Moscow in January announced plans to boost the country’s military capabilities, particularly in the Crimean Peninsula, the Arctic and the westernmost Kaliningrad region.

Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has said the Russian military is set to receive this year some 700 armored and 1,550 other vehicles, 126 planes, 88 helicopters, and two Iskander-M missile systems.
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http://rt.com/usa/238257-french-submarine-us-carrier/
Old French sub ‘sinks’ US carrier group
Published time: March 06, 2015
France, Navy, Security, USA
A major vulnerability that allowed French submarine to “sink” aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and most of its escort during drills was apparently revealed by the French Navy and Defense Ministry in blogposts that were quickly wiped out.

Both the French Defense Ministry and the Navy released and then quickly deleted a news post entitled “Le SNA Saphir en entraînement avec l’US Navy au large de la Floride” (“The SNA Sapphire in training with the US Navy off the coast of Florida”) that praised the 34-year-old French nuclear submarine’s success in “sinking” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt along with best part of its escort.

The news, before it was deleted was spotted by several outlets, including The Aviationist blog, which disclosed the information which the French authorities initially shared.

The aim of the military games off the coast of Florida which began in mid-February were meant to test the newly upgraded carrier, which had undergone a four year, $2.6 billion overhaul, ahead of the Strike Group's deployment. The drills involved practicing scenarios of hostile ship boarding, submarine attacks, and enemy ships battles.

During the first phase of the 10 days naval exercises, the French Saphir sub was part of the so-called friendly force to support anti-submarine warfare.

However, in the second phase of the games, the Saphir turned foe and was integrated with the imaginary enemy forces. Its mission become to locate Theodore Roosevelt and to prepare an attack on the strike group by guiding the ships.

During that last stage of the drills, the French sub snuck up undetected on US Carrier Strike Group 12 by penetrating a US defensive screen.

“The Saphir has quietly slipped into the heart of the screen formed by the American frigates protecting the aircraft carrier, while avoiding detection against-pervasive air assets ,” the original release read as quoted by French Challenges blog. “On the morning of the last day, the order of fire was finally given, allowing the Saphir to fictitiously sink Theodore Roosevelt and most of its escort.”

No other details are available about the outcome of the exercise. The strike group will be deployed later this year to provide an overseas forward presence and maintain US maritime security abroad.
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one thing thats never revealed is does the 'sunk' carrier have its sentry SSN on duty as is the norm or its merely to test the sonars of the ships and any helicopters or ASW aircraft detailed into the exercise.

this is not the first time. bartania, norway, germany and australia among others also have claimed the coveted 6 HWT smackdown of CVNs in similar exercises.

normally 1 SSN is assigned for underwater protection of a CVBG and maybe more as needed.
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This is something that shows the importance of training with capable allies. Nobody is invincible but you can train at the highest level to gain a very comprehensive ability to defend yourself if need be.
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Good details of the Borei SSBN here.Drg. and video clip,pics.

http://rt.com/news/214155-russia-submar ... -monomakh/
3rd Russian Borei-class nuclear sub raises its colors (VIDEO)
Published time: December 19, 2014
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French Navy Rafale M Fighter Conducts Qualifications with USS Carl Vinson in the Gulf
In what seems to be becoming a tradition between the two allied navies, a French Navy (Marine Nationale) Rafale M fighter crossed deck with US Navy nuclear-powever aircraft carrier (CVN) USS Carl Vinson. The US aircraft carrier and the French Navy CVN Charles de Gaulle are currently deployed in the Persian Gulf to conduct strike operations in Iraq.

The goal of this "cross deck" was to qualify the Dassault Aviation Rafale M fighter with USS Carl Vinson. The French navy CSG started air operations above Iraq last week.

The Rafale M is fully compatible with US Navy aircraft carriers and some French Navy pilots have already qualified to fly the aircraft from US Navy flight decks. This marks the fourth time French navy Rafale M operates with a US Navy CVN:
- On 4 June 2010, during an exercise on USS Harry S. Truman, a French Rafale became the first jet fighter of a foreign navy to have its engine replaced on board an American aircraft carrier.
- In 2008 six Rafales from Flottille 12F integrated into the USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Air Wing interoperability exercise.
- In july 2007 two Rafale M conducted touch and go, traps, and catapult launch maneuvers with USS Enterprise off the French Riviera.

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Russia's new improved Yasen SSGN subs to be built.

Sevmash to build new multirole nuclear submarine
15:29 March 6, 2015 http://asia.rbth.com/news/2015/03/06/se ... 44275.html)
15:29 March 6, 2015 Interfax
The first multirole Yasen K-560 Severodvinsk submarine by the pier of the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk. Source: RIA Novosti

Russia's Sevmash enterprise is expected to launch the construction of a next generation Project Yasen-M multirole nuclear submarine of on March 16, the plant's press service reported on Friday.

"Navy Commander Admiral Viktor Chirkov has ordered that the submarine be named Arkhangelsk. This missile carrier will become the fifth Yasen Project multirole nuclear submarine, developed by St. Petersburg's Malakhit naval design bureau," it said.

The project uses a lot of cutting-edge technological solutions, the press service said.

The flagship of Project Yasen, the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine, built by Sevmash, was transferred to the Russian Navy on June 17, 2014. The updated Project Yasen-M envisages the construction of the multirole nuclear submarines Kazan, Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk. The vessels will be equipped exclusively with Russian-made electronic warfare systems and other elements.

Under the Russian Naval Doctrine, the Project Yasen submarines will form the core of Russia's fleet of multirole submarines in the future.

graphics here.
http://rbth.com/multimedia/infographics ... 28779.html
34 yr old French sub "sinks" US nuclear carrier task force in exercises!
http://rt.com/usa/238257-french-submarine-us-carrier/
French delete evidence US carrier was 'sunk' by sub in drill
Published time: March 06, 2015
A major vulnerability that allowed French submarine to “sink” aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and most of its escort during drills was apparently revealed by the French Navy and Defense Ministry in blogposts that were quickly wiped out.

Both the French Defense Ministry and the Navy released and then quickly deleted a news post entitled “Le SNA Saphir en entraînement avec l’US Navy au large de la Floride” (“The SNA Sapphire in training with the US Navy off the coast of Florida”) that praised the 34-year-old French nuclear submarine’s success in “sinking” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt along with best part of its escort.

The news, before it was deleted was spotted by several outlets, including The Aviationist blog, which disclosed the information which the French authorities initially shared.

The aim of the military games off the coast of Florida which began in mid-February were meant to test the newly upgraded carrier, which had undergone a four year, $2.6 billion overhaul, ahead of the Strike Group's deployment. The drills involved practicing scenarios of hostile ship boarding, submarine attacks, and enemy ships battles.

During the first phase of the 10 days naval exercises, the French Saphir sub was part of the so-called friendly force to support anti-submarine warfare.

However, in the second phase of the games, the Saphir turned foe and was integrated with the imaginary enemy forces. Its mission become to locate Theodore Roosevelt and to prepare an attack on the strike group by guiding the ships.

During that last stage of the drills, the French sub snuck up undetected on US Carrier Strike Group 12 by penetrating a US defensive screen.

“The Saphir has quietly slipped into the heart of the screen formed by the American frigates protecting the aircraft carrier, while avoiding detection against-pervasive air assets ,” the original release read as quoted by French Challenges blog. “On the morning of the last day, the order of fire was finally given, allowing the Saphir to fictitiously sink Theodore Roosevelt and most of its escort.”

No other details are available about the outcome of the exercise. The strike group will be deployed later this year to provide an overseas forward presence and maintain US maritime security abroad.
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Love the RT propaganda..Its a long established tradition not to talk about some or all of these advanced exercises. You also do not approach these exercises with a simple blue on red type of mentality. You do so by trying out different things that you could learn from such as experimental tactics, or new technologies. The US hasn't talked about sub based exercises for close to a decade now, I wouldnt be surprised if the french also make this a policy going into the future. The RT is doing what it routinely does, spread its propaganda..
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brar_w wrote:The RT is doing what it routinely does, spread its propaganda..
No different from each and every US or UK media outlet. Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, New York Times, Bloomberg, Huffington Post, The Economist, Financial Times, BBC, all constitute the following:

The Bullshit Brigade.


But I digress. And please, don't even try to dispute that. You've earned a lot of credibility through your hard work in contributing facts. Best not to tarnish that by defending the indefensible.
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^^ No one really should take them seriously when they report on aerospace or defense matters. Having said that most would not hold the NY Times, Wall street Journal in the same league as RT or Foxnews. But that is a matter of opinion I guess.
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brar_w wrote:Having said that most would not hold the NY Times, Wall street Journal in the same league as RT or Foxnews. But that is a matter of opinion I guess.
From an Indian perspective, they're no better, but I don't expect you to understand that or even want to.
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brar_w wrote:Having said that most would not hold the NY Times, Wall street Journal in the same league as RT or Foxnews. But that is a matter of opinion I guess.
From an Indian perspective, they're no better, but I don't expect you to understand that or even want to.
That may be the case but that hardly counts to the overall comparison of the sort of reporting that these groups do. RT and FNC are in a league of their own and I am sure India has that category well represented. Its the increasing Tabloidization of the media and its a global problem.

From a defense reporting, all are practically useless but do a lot of damage here in the west (NYT et al) because they have a viewership and the fact that the system is very open. Even the traditional sources of aerospace and defense reporting, have suffered severely due to the blogs taking a lot of their viewership and they trying to compete with them. Aviation Week has had a huge decline in quality with more and more reporters interested in striking annual deals with tabloids and other guest article type setups where they can make their money through sensationalism. A few decades ago aerospace journos made their money by learning the capabilities and technical abilities of systems and writing huge write-ups on them before moving all that data over to a book on the subject. That has all changed. Now everyone wants to strike a lucrative deal for guest column with the likes of the Daily Beast etc that demand sensational headlines and click bait articles.
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Have any of the defense or strategy journalism outlets from mighty USA that you consider worthy questioned how many AMRAAMs Pakistan has used against terrorism as envisaged by the US?

If not, perhaps it would be best to stay quiet on propaganda by RT?
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There has been questioning of the Military Aid to Pakistan in the media and elsewhere in strategic circles. Has the question of AMRAAM ever come up? I am not sure. Even assuming that it hasn't been discussed that however doesn't really take away from the fact that RT when reporting on US matters is hardly a credible source (on defense matters in particular). At least not to me, although you can continue to consider it a credible source and thats why I said earlier that these sorts of things are a matter of opinion.

Lets agree to disagree and get back on the International Naval discussion.
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RT is no worse one in the realm of propaganda when it comes to international affairs as any US or UK mainstream media outlet that constitute the Bullshit Brigade. It doesn't matter whether the international matter relates to defence or not.

Yes, and do let us know when any worthy US defence or strategy publication questions why the AMRAAMs gifted to Pakistan for fighting terrorism have not been used by a country so affected by terrorism.

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RT is no worse one in the realm of propaganda when it comes to international affairs as any US or UK mainstream media outlet that constitute the Bullshit Brigade. It doesn't matter whether the international matter relates to defence or not
I am not contesting that. And even if I were how does that make RT any better? You are really arguing when there is really no need for it. I don't work in the media or have any sort of sympathy from any of the US or UK media outlets mentioned by you. Nor do I care whether they survive or die or are labeled in one bracket or the other.
es, and do let us know when any worthy US defence or strategy publication questions why the AMRAAMs gifted to Pakistan for fighting terrorism have not been used by a country so affected by terrorism
Sure, if I come across any I'll make it a point to pass them along to you ;)
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brar_w wrote:
Yes, and do let us know when any worthy US defence or strategy publication questions why the AMRAAMs gifted to Pakistan for fighting terrorism have not been used by a country so affected by terrorism
Sure, if I come across any I'll make it a point to pass them along to you ;)
That you take the matter so casually speaks volumes. Thanks.

This is my last post on this matter. I've seen all I need to see.
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I spoke casually because you took my comment on RT to heart as if I was implying that either that level of BS does not exist in the US media or that RT is somehow different from some of the outlets in the US. I did not imply either of those things. The rest of the discussion seems to have spiraled into something different altogether.
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Chinese carrier Liaoning "Beijing Duck" for the USN in a spat.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subc ... 0309000128
Liaoning carrier would be a liability in a war with US: Kanwa

Staff Reporter 2015-03-09
A J-15 fighter takes off from the aircraft carrier Liaoning in June 2014. (Photo/CNS)

The stark gap in numbers, technical capabilities and experience mean that China's aircraft carrier will be a "burden" as opposed to a "weapon" in a hypothetical head-to-head naval battle with the United States, says the Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

The magazine's March issue said it will not matter that China will have three aircraft carriers within the next 10 years after adding two more carriers to its one and only carrier so far, the Liaoning.

By then, the US will still maintain a significant advantage with its fleet of 11 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, though the bigger problem for China is that the US will always have operational and technical superiority in any carrier confrontation.

According to the report, the situation would be similar to that of the Falklands War between Argentina and the United Kingdom in 1982. In the 74-day conflict in which the UK retook the islands following the Argentine invasion, Argentina's ARA Veinticinco de Mayo aircraft carrier more or less became a burden because of a sizable gap in carrier combat capabilities and experience.

The UK deployed at least two nuclear submarines — the biggest threat to aircraft carriers — one of which, HMS Conqueror, sank the Argentine light cruiser General Belgrano, after which the remainder of the Argentine fleet returned to port and ceded naval control to the British task force for the rest of the conflict. The UK won because it was much better at protecting its aircraft carriers and took advantage of Argentina's lack of anti-submarine capabilities, the report said, adding that the UK also had far more operational experience and air saturation attack capabilities, which is lethal for aircraft carriers in modern combat.

If China were to take on the US in a naval conflict today, the Liaoning would be as ineffective as the ARA Veinticinco de Mayo proved to be, the report said. The US has nearly 90 years of experience with aircraft carrier task forces, more than any other country in the world, and despite its rapid advancements, China's anti-submarine capabilities and carrier protection techniques will still be behind the US and Japan after 10 or even 20 years.

China's anti-submarine aircraft are more than a generation behind in terms of technology compared to the US and Japan. Japan has more than 80 P-3 Orion four-engine turboprop anti-submarine aircraft, while the US has the more advanced P-8 Poseidon. China on the other hand has only two Y-8GX6 — or Gaoxin-6 — anti-submarine aircraft.

Furthermore, US aircraft carriers can carry five to eight S-3B sub-hunting aircraft and five to eight SH-60F/R anti-submarine helicopters, while China only started testing the Changhe Z-18 anti-submarine helicopter last July.

Beneath the waves, the US has 61 nuclear submarines, while Japan has about 16 world-class conventionally powered subs. All of them are equipped with long-range anti-ship missiles.

In the air, the US will be switching over the next 30 years to the highly advanced F-35C/B, which has better stealth capabilities and long-distance attacking power than any of China's fighter jets.

In terms of functionality, the US has a diverse range of anti-ship missiles including the 370-kilometer-range AGM-158, the 130-km-range AGM-154 and the 270-km-range AGM84H/K, with long-range anti-ship missiles capable of hitting targets nearly 1,000 km away still in development. In a saturated air attack, the US can launch more than a hundred warheads in under a minute, more than any current missile defense system can fend off.

Accordingly, the report said the only move for China in a hypothetical naval conflict would be to avoid an aircraft carrier battle, but it also means that the PLA will need to substantially improve its air defense and anti-submarine capabilities as well increase its land-to-air firepower and number of fighter jets.
The highlighted bit is the meat of the analysis. The combined firepower that the USN can bring to bear is awesome (correct usage of that badly used word). One would however remember a v.recent US appraisal of PLAN subs ,growing in number and capability,which may pose a greater threat to US carriers.The story that a French 34 yr old sub "sank" a USN N-carrier and much of its task force posted earlier,shows that the mighty can still be humbled. One musn't forget that the PLAN operates a large number of newish Kilo 636s and Chinese clones of the same,over 20 altogether.
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er,
the S3 viking has long been retired
the mighty CH53 is good for mine clearance work at best dragging a sea trawl of sorts

but the SH60 ASW, P3 and SSN power is definitely there...albeit the bases of the P3 and subs still can be hammered by BMs and CMs in a all out war.
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Some of the highest levels of strategic investment in undersea warfare is happening at the moment under Admiral Greenert who is a sub guy. Undersea warfare is also identified as a section for the next DOD offset strategy.
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you mean virginia/ohio follow ons or more advances in weapons and sensors?
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The good Admiral was commander of the 7th fleet. link
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Singha wrote:you mean virginia/ohio follow ons or more advances in weapons and sensors?
Ohio follow on is currently in R&D phase with procurement beginning in 2021. The Virginia next block (IV) is contracted for and Block V would be available with the VPM before the end of the decade (they are trying to move it a few years ahead). The Offset strategy does not deal with subs per say, but with technologies to develop strategic advantages in the undersea domain. It could be anything for UUV's to revolutionary sensor payloads or much improved sonar detection etc. The deal with the offset strategy is to talk little about specifics and speak only broadly on areas where they are going to concentrate. Of course there are some very open programs designed to go out, and hunt submarines in cooperation with air and other sea borne assets. This particular one calls for an unmanned vessel to deploy to an area of interest possibly within the AOI of the carrier strike group and hunt and shadow a submarine for prolonged periods of time. Much of the sub activity in R&D is done so from open budgets and in a transparent fashion. Most incremental improvements are done like that. The offset technologies are unlikely to be revealed in the forceable future until they are deployed (much like stealth was back in the day).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmEjI7Eo3E

This prototype vehicle is already under construction in Washington State.

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Overall since the end of the cold war much of the black research has gone extremely quite and has not been disclosed even after the fact. Even in the USAF, the last secret tech demonstrator they revealed after the fact was the Have Blue that flew in 1977. Apart from the secret program to test Mig's in the US ( Constant Peg) nothing developed for the USAF in secret as a tech demonstrator or a program has been revealed to the public. Thats why publications like AvWeek are going crazy trying to reconcile the black budget (close to 15 Billion or the USAF and close to 50-70 Billion per year combined) with program activity (and leading to the latest Sweetmann guesswork).

The third offset strategy aims to create a strategic advantage similar to the one created by technologies such as PGM, GPS, stealth and speed etc over time. It aims to do this in the years to decades that follow.

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Can a STOBAR aircraft (MiG-29K & LCA) be launched by catapult without substantial changes?
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Depends upon the purpose and the sort of catapult you are seeking for it (developing a new one?). You would need to possibly strengthen the nose gear to account for the catapult shuttle and the associated stresses. Fatigue testing in addition to a complete certification would be required on top of any design changes to accommodate the same.
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^ I was wondering if INS Vishal were to be a CATOBAR carrier, then whether our existing air fleet can operate from it. Russians cant retrofit the MiG and LCA Navy has already been designed for STOBAR. So that leaves only Rafale and JSF as options. With the US-spec EMALS, wonder if Rafale will be compatible.... and even if it is there is no way it can operate from amphibs.

If JSF must be purchased, then I would rather build a second Vikrant class carrier to keep my options open. Buy VSTOL JSF in numbers enough to operate from amphibs and VKD, Vikrant and Vishal.
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^^ You can make existing aircraft capable of launching from EMALS if need be. The focus should be on the LCA and AMCA both of which are 100% indigenous form a system-integration and development perspective. It would require close cooperation and some sort of teamwork with teams from the supplier side that have experience in this but it isn't a very big technical challenge compared to some others that have been accomplished or would be accomplished in the future (AMCA). For Dassault to certify the Rafale for EMALS would mean sending a jet to Lakehurst and going through the established certification process. The LCA or the future AMCA would have to do the same once the design changes are accommodated unless the IN (if it chooses EMALS) wishes to have a land base setup in India for testing, certification and training early on.
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large number of incidents at Britain's Faslane N-sub base in Scotland,why the SNP want the base closed down.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local ... er-5318591

Submarines at Faslane are involved in rising number of nuclear incidents
, 12 March 2015
By Jenny Foulds

Ministry of Defence admits 450 scares have been reported at naval base


More than 450 nuclear safety incidents have been reported at Faslane, new figures show.

Up to 451 safety incidents happened between 2008/9 and 2013/14, which involved at least 71 fires and major equipment failures at the naval base.

In the past year, the number of accidents has almost doubled from 68 in 2012/13 to 107 in 2013/14. Figures released in response to a parliamentary question by SNP MP Angus Robertson revealed that 12 of the incidents were Category B — the second highest level.

These are described by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) as “a major failure of nuclear weapons services” causing an “actual contained release (of radiation) within buildings or submarine or an unplanned exposure to radiation”.

All of the safety incidents involved either the submarines’ nuclear propulsion systems or issues with nuclear weapons.

An MoD spokesperson said: “Our comprehensive reporting system purposely captures even the most minor of incidents, which never pose a threat to the public or our personnel, to ensure all lessons are learned.”
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E-2D begins debut deployment
The US Navy's (USN's) new Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has begun its maiden deployment, the service disclosed on 13 March.

Five E-2Ds assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW)-125 'Tiger Tails' are operating as part of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1 aboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71). The Theodore Roosevelt departed its homeport in Norfolk, Virginia, for an around-the-world deployment on 11 March.
The E-2D is the latest variant of the Hawkeye carrier-based AEW&C aircraft that has been in US naval service since the mid-1960s. Improvements on the legacy platforms include the more powerful Lockheed Martin AN/APY-9 radar that is designed to provide 360° coverage against hostile aircraft and cruise missiles.
The USN is also integrating an in-flight refuelling capability into the E-2D, giving it greater range and endurance. The first aircraft with the refuelling capability is expected to be ready around 2019, and all aircraft will be retrofitted with the system.
The navy's E-2D programme of record is for 75 aircraft (of which 50 are under contract). As of January 2015, 16 of these aircraft had been delivered. Deliveries are set to be complete by 2025, with the 61 E-2Cs in the USN's inventory being phased out of service from 2017.

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The USN's current plan will see the navy's Fleet Replacement Squadron, Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron 120 (VAW-120) 'Gray Hawks', based at Naval Air Station (NAS) Norfolk, train flight crews and system operators before they move to operational squadrons.
Besides VAW-125, operational USN E-2C AEW&C squadrons set to adopt the E-2D comprise VAW-112 'Golden Hawks', VAW-113 'Black Eagles', VAW-115 'Liberty Bells', VAW-116 'Sun Kings', and VAW-117 'Wallbangers', based at NAS Point Mugu, California; and VAW-121 'Bluetails', VAW-123 'Screwtops', VAW-124 'Bear Aces', and VAW-126 'Seahawks', based at NAS Norfolk. VAW-77 (Reserve) 'Night Wolves' will also operate the type out of NAS Joint Reserve Base New Orleans.

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http://nationalinterest.org/feature/3-c ... fear-12419
3 Chinese Weapons of War the U.S. Navy Should Fear
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Interesting new midget sub design by China entering service. We too have an IN requirement for the same.The IN should have at least 8-12 midget subs apart from its other sub assets.These could be built by pvt. yards to gain experience for the future.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subc ... 0318000051
PLA expands its Type 093 midget submarine line

Staff Reporter 2015-03-)
A PLA submarine in the South China Sea in August last year. (File photo/CNS)

Beijing has revealed a version of the Type 093 midget submarine, known as the 093T, suggesting that more vessels in this class may be produced, reports news website Cankao Xiaoxi.

The 093B midget submarine reportedly has a vertical launch system that can launch 16 missiles, including the supersonic anti-ship YJ-18 and the DH-10 cruise missile.

Such a submarine can carry up to nine special ops members and is ideal for covert transportation and surprise attack. It can also launch laser-guided missiles or sneak combat divers into military ports to perform recon or destroy high-value targets such as aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines.

The United States was developing a midget version of its Ohio-class submarines but reportedly stopped development after a fire in 2008. The submarines used a dry-deck shelter system which allows the midget submarine to dock completely inside of its larger cousin. The 093T submarine adapts a wet-deck shelter system, which means only two thirds of the submarine are secured to the mother submarine and the rest is exposed to water.
http://www.janes.com/article/49879/chin ... nd-carrier
China working on second carrier
Andrew Tate, London and James Hardy, London - IHS Jane's Navy International
10 March 2015
People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) deputy political commissar Rear Admiral Ding Haichun has confirmed that construction of China's first indigenous aircraft carrier is underway, according to the Hong Kong Commercial Daily newspaper, which interviewed several senior officers, including Rear Adm Ding, on the margins of the National People's Congress being held in Beijing.

Comments were also attributed to former PLAN Political Commissar Admiral Liu Xiaogang in which he said China's second carrier would be an improvement on the refurbished Soviet carrier Varyag , and that construction was now in the hands of industry. When asked how many carriers China would build, Adm Liu referred to speculation that the number would be six but added that it would depend upon the resources available.

In a separate report, the PLA Daily reported the successful development of an electromagnetic catapult, citing the assertion by the project leader, Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, that it is the equal of American designs.

China has been very reticent to outline its carrier plans and ambitions. In January, information relating to a contract to supply components for the new carrier was removed from a company's website after it circulated online. On 6 March, Chinese media reported that two workers with access to bases in Dalian had been jailed for six and eight years for passing photographs of China's first carrier, Liaoning , to "foreign spies".

It has also been reported that a 20 m high wall has been built around the Dalian shipyard to prevent unauthorised photography.
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NAVSEA: Advanced Arresting Gear Design Flaw Delayed Testing Schedule Two Years, Adds Risk to On Time Ford Carrier Delivery

By: Sam LaGrone
March 19, 2015
http://news.usni.org/2015/03/19/navsea- ... 234c8f82d4
WASHINGTON, D.C. — A design flaw in the system the Navy plans to help safely recover aircraft onboard its next generation Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) aircraft carrier has set testing for the program back two years and risks extending the delivery of the ship past its March 31, 2016 deadline, Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) officials told reporters on Thursday.
The General Atomics built Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) was found to have a design flaw that set testing at Naval Air Station Lakehurst, N.J. back two years, according to the head of Program Executive Officer for Aircraft Carriers Rear Adm. Tom Moore said.

“We are about two years behind where we should be up at Lakehurst in terms of having the systems installed and testing it with real aircraft,” he said.
“Right now my major concern on Ford is AAG. I have to get equipment installed. It’s now all arrived at the shipyard. The shipyard is installing the equipment now and concurrently with that I have to get Lakehurst to start testing the upgraded system.”

The flaw was found in the AAG’s water twister — a complex paddle wheel that is designed to absorb 70 percent of the force when the tailhook of a landing aircraft pulls against an arresting wire to come to a stop.

“Doing a detailed engineering assessment we recognized the water twister was under designed,” Moore said.
“GA was responsible for the design — remember they’re on a firm fixed price contract — so the vendor was responsible for the fix.”

Now a newly repaired AAG is under going jet sled tests in Lakehurst while at the same time a separate upgraded version is being installed on Ford.

“We’re a lot more confident the system as it’s currently built will work but it’s important that Lakehurst gets through the jet car test site and we go to a second phase called runway assisted landing system — that’s where they land real aircraft. Those two event at Lakehurst I’ll be watching very carefully,” Moore said.
“If Lakehurst uncovers something on the system that has to be fixed, the risk I’m taking is I’m installing it and then I have to go back and fix something that’s all ready installed, it’s more challenging. Really at this point, I don’t have a choice. “

On the other end of the carrier, the GA built Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) is doing comparatively better.

“Two of the four catapults are completely built and the other two are almost built and we started below deck testing on what we call the energy storage group in August and we met every key event date for testing on EMALS,” Moore said.
“I’m confident EMALS is progressing on track. The next big event is in the June timeframe when we’ll start shooting dead-load sleds into the James River.”
Absent hang-ups, the $12.9 billion Ford is set to deliver on March 31, 2016. The next ship in the class — John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) — will deliver on June 22, 2022.
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The problem with the lead ship is to get all the changes incorporated into the vessel in time. The changes have been largely ID'd both on the EMALS and the landing system but one needs to get them done alongside testing before the ship is ready. An earlier article posted by myself documents quite well the design changes. Ultimately this is why you go through development and testing i.e. to find design flaws, and correct them prior to release of the technology to the service.

Lead ship troubles are a reality for any nation working on cutting edge systems. This is something advanced shipbuilding has to overcome. Expect some lead ship trouble to crop up on both the first Ford class and the first Zumwalt class in the next 12-18 months. Such is the nature of shipbuilding.

EMALS testing starts very soon onboard the the Carrier. EMALS at Lakehurst has been launching all sorts of aircraft for years now.

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^^^ Question re Lakehurst. When a fighter is launched from a CVN, the latter is traveling at 30+ knots, adding to airflow under the fighter. But when you launch off the ground, there no such headwind. Does the setup at Lakehurst compensate for that? How do they then map it into the first CVN EMALs takeoff?
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From what i can recall, its the computer that decides what sort of power would be allocated to you in order to meet the desired speed on the other end of the EMALS..If you want 150 knots, you'll get that and if you want higher you can have that as well. It would seem logical to have the power adjusted in order to perform a launch on the ground in the absence of a moving ship and the assistance it provides in generating lift.

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THE USS GERALD R. FORD AND THE LANDING AND TAKE-OFF LAUNCH SYSTEM

And if you get half way down the cat and the system senses that you’re not getting there, it will increase power as necessary to reach end speed.

The system itself is intelligent enough to increase power as you go and increase the acceleration rate so that at the end you’re actually going 160 knots per hour or whatever you want to be at the end.

Question: Computer control must play a key role in the system?

Hicks: It does. With the steam catapult, the steam valve opens and you get what you get.

If it turns out the speed is not building up as expected, you have no other options. The system is not going to try to fix itself.

This system has tons of detectors in it that every little nuance and every step along the way is measured , it knows what the speed should be, what the speed is, what power is available and how to increase power or decrease power as necessary.

When you think about that there’s a whole array of failures that can happen within this system and still give the proper launch speed.

It’s impressive to watch the system operate at Lakehurst.


The article I had posted earlier pertaining to the AAG can be seen here -

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defens ... /21119327/
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India Developing Network of Coastal Radars
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In addition to the newly commissioned CSR on the main island of Mahe, more will be installed on the smaller islands of Farqhuar, Astove and Assumption. All are expected to be commissioned into service between July and August.

In neighboring Mauritius, Modi signed an agreement to set up eight Indian-controlled CSR stations and pledged to continue strengthening the Mauritius Coast Guard with new aircraft, naval vessels and Indian training for its seamen.

The IOR surveillance project is widely seen as India's response to China's aggressive new operations in the region. In January, the Chinese Ministry of National Defense said it will step up the deployment of Navy vessels in the area to protect its security and economic interests while contributing to regional international anti-piracy operations.
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