Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Sep 2015 11:51

Pointed to a Nepali Muslim on twitter that should he end up in ISIS, he will end up washing dishes for the master race. Also asked him to look the meaning of 'Mawali' in Wiki. Needless to say, I had the last word.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Sep 2015 12:08

Reuters:

Britain and US limit diplomats' movements after Bangladesh shooting
DHAKA
The United States and Britain have restricted movements of their diplomats in Bangladesh and cited "reliable" information that more Westerners will be targeted after gunmen believed to be Islamist militants killed an Italian aid worker in Dhaka.

Aid worker Cesare Tavella was shot dead by gunmen on a motorbike on Monday evening in Dhaka's diplomatic zone, the latest sign of growing extremism on the city's streets after four liberal bloggers were hacked to death.

The U.S. embassy said its diplomats were instructed not to go outside overnight following the attack and warned of possible attacks on U.S. facilities, citizens and interests.

"In light of the increased threat, U.S. citizens should consider limiting their attendance at events where foreigners may gather, including events at international hotels," the U.S. embassy said in a statement issued late on Monday.

Britain told embassy officials to stay away from events where westerners may gather and warned of possible attacks in "late September".

The motive behind the shooting of Tavella was unknown, acting inspector general of police Mokhlesur Rahman said.

"But based on our experience, we can say it is a pre-planned murder," he told reporters after visiting the crime scene in the upscale Gulshan neighborhood, home to several embassies.

An online statement in the name of the hardline Islamist group Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack on Tavella. Police said they were not aware of the claim, which could not be independently verified.

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Sep 2015 14:56

X Posted from the STFUP thread, article on problems Mohammadden immigrants impose on host countries owing to the baggage of Mohammadden cultural practices, which in this particular case is Honour Killing.

Joh Dera Ismail Khan mein g**du, woh Darmstadt mein bhi g**du.

“Originally from Pakistan” Asadullah Khan in Court for honour killing his daughter.

Muslim parents face court in Germany after murdering daughter for shoplifting condoms to have sex with forbidden boyfriend :

A MUSLIM father has admitted to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death after she was caught shoplifting condoms to use with a man she had been forbidden from dating.

Asadullah Khan, 51, used his bare hands to strangle his daughter Lareeb because she had brought “dishonour” to the family, the court in Germany heard.

His wife Shazia Khan, 41, is also on trial for their daughter’s murder as she did not attempt to stop him.

The couple, originally from Pakistan, then dressed their daughter in her dental assistant work attire and used a wheelchair to transport her to their car. They used the car to relocate her body from their high-rise apartment in the city of Darmstadt to a forest, where they disposed of it by rolling her down the hill.

Mr Khan said the family’s honour had been jeopardised after Lareeb had started dating a man despite attempts by her family to stop it. …………………….

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Sep 2015 23:44

Hajj stampede death toll climbs to 1,100

ISLAMABAD: The death toll from one of the worst stampedes during Hajj pilgrimage has hit 1,100, among them 42 Pakistani pilgrims, officials confirmed on Monday. The revised tally came a day after Pakistan’s Religious Affairs Minister Sardar Yousaf told a news conference in Saudi Arabia that 36 Pakistanis were among the stampede victims.

However, the minister told the state-run Pakistan Television on Monday that 42 Pakistanis were killed and 62 were still missing. Of the 35 injured Pakistani pilgrims, 29 had been discharged after treatment, he added.

Cheers

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Oct 2015 04:03

http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/angela- ... um=twitter

attending a luncheon on the sidelines of a United Nations development summit in New York on Saturday, Merkel and Zuckerberg were overheard on a live transmission broadcast on the UN website as participants took their seats.After Merkel confronted Zuckerberg about anti-migrant posts, the Facebook CEO is heard responding that “we need to do some work” on the issue.Ha!This is so typical of the elites. They control policy, they control the media, they control the culture — but they can’t control the people. And this make them crazy. If they could, they would change the people.Hitler tried to do that.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Oct 2015 11:17

Washington Post
Father of Umpqua college shooting victim: Gunman singled out Christians
CNN - ‎1 hour ago‎

Roseburg, Oregon (CNN) The gunman who opened fire at Oregon's Umpqua Community College singled out Christians, according to the father of a wounded student.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 02 Oct 2015 13:07

X-posting:

Viv S wrote:Must read:

Storming heaven: A revolt in Makkah

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 02 Oct 2015 23:26

Muslim History vs Western Fantasy: The ‘Refugee Crisis’ in Context

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/mus ... n-context/

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Oct 2015 08:42

Australian Teenager's Attack on Police Worker Called Act of Terrorism
New York Times - ‎51 minutes ago‎

SYDNEY, Australia - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot a civilian police employee in a Sydney suburb on Friday and was killed by responding officers, the New South Wales police commissioner said, describing the boy's act as terrorism.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Oct 2015 08:58

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQXKY-0VEAAkIgl.jpg
From Tittar" Call it K card, P card, Beekh Card, Ayslum Card

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Oct 2015 10:58

Al Hamdu Ishwara!

11 Mohammadden Terrorists sent to prison by Spain.

Associated Press via ABC News

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Oct 2015 15:01

final moments of the aussie jihadi teen on cctv
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/pa ... 7555654564

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Oct 2015 20:11

http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/10/0 ... JJ20151003
Japanese citizen shot dead in Bangladesh, second foreigner killed this week
DHAKA | By Serajul Quadir

Police in Bangladesh said they had detained four people in connection with the shooting on Saturday of a Japanese citizen, the second foreign national killed in the South Asian nation within a week.

Kunio Hoshi, 65, a Japanese citizen born in Bangladesh, was attacked by unidentified assailants in Kownia in Rangpur district, 335 km (210 miles) north of the capital, Dhaka, and died on the way to hospital, police said.

The killing bore some similarities to the shooting death of an Italian working in Bangladesh, Cesare Tavella. Islamic State claimed responsibility for that attack, the first such claim the militant group has made in Bangladesh.

"This killing was also carried by three masked men who came by motorcycle and used a pistol, so the motives may be same," Home Minister Asaduzzaman Khan told Reuters.

"We have detained four persons and are trying to know the motive for the killing," Farukh Hossain, an additional superintendent of police of Rangpur district, told Reuters. "We take both the killings seriously and hopefully will be able to identify the killers along with their motives," Home Minister Asaduzzaman said.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Oct 2015 20:26

record number of people are being KIA in nigeria

Hindustan Times

Nigeria: 18 killed, 41 injured in multiple bomb blasts in Abuja
Hindustan Times - ‎2 hours ago‎

At least 18 people were killed and 41 wounded in two explosions that ripped through the outskirts of Nigeria's capital Abuja, the National Emergency Management Agency said on Saturday.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 03 Oct 2015 22:45

Tapan Ghosh: Bringing Back Our Girls

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260292/ ... is-chesler

Bengal On The Brink Of A Second Partition Says Tapan Ghosh

http://swarajyamag.com/politics/bengal- ... pan-ghosh/

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Oct 2015 20:59

arun wrote:Canadian newspaper Globe and Mail reports that “In a landmark case for cultural crimes, a radical Islamist leader will face trial in The Hague for the destruction of historic tombs in the ancient city of Timbuktu.”.

ICC to try Islamist leader for destruction of Timbuktu tombs

The above is not the first act of destruction of humanity’s cultural heritage by Mohammadden groups motivated by the Mohammadden religion in the 21st Century. Prior to the incident in Mali which the ICC now intends to try ,there was the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha’s by the Mohammadden group the Taliban in Afghanistan, the destruction of Palmyra by the Mohammadden group Islamic State in Syria and the destruction in Iraq of artefacts at the Mosul Museum, Nimrud and Khorsabad by the same Mohammadden group. By contrast I can think of no similar deliberate destruction in the 21st Century of historic cultural sites motivated by respective religion by any Non-Mohammadden group be they Buddhist, Christist, Confucian, Hindu, Jain, Jewish, Sikh, Taoist or Zoroastrian. The foregoing leads me to conclude that this barbaric practise is unique to adherents of Mohammaddenism:

After 1,700 years, Buddhas fall to Taliban dynamite

Isis’s destruction of Palmyra: ‘The heart has been ripped out of the city'

Tracking a trail of historical obliteration: ISIS trumpets destruction of Nimrud

The deliberate destruction of historic cultural monuments by Mohammadden groups for religion based reasons around the world affirms that Nobel Laureate Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul was spot on when he wrote "It {Mohammaddenism} has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'."

Nobel prize winner V.S, Naipaul wrote "It {Mohammaddenism} has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'."

Mohammadden Terrorist group Islamic State aka ISIS aka ISIL aka Daesh unleashes yet more destruction on monuments in Palmyra confirming V.S. Naipaul's insight:

Islamic State Blows Up Roman Era Arches in Palmyra, SOHR Reports

Separately Irina Bokova, Director-General of UNESCO in an interview in English with Russia Television channel RT, calls this latest depredation by the Mohammadden Terrorist group, IS, “cultural cleansing”:

You Tube : CULTURE OF DESTRUCTION Ft. Irina Bokova, UNESCO Director-General

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Oct 2015 21:26

why is ISIS wasting precious resources on blowing up such ruins? nobody worships there and some are just old cities kind of like petra.

yazidis anyway have run away from the region, those who could escape.

rest is all islam already.

i guess they have a lot of free time on hands since nobody is attacking them.

member_28990 · Post by **member_28990** » 05 Oct 2015 21:38

Singha wrote:why is ISIS wasting precious resources on blowing up such ruins? nobody worships there and some are just old cities kind of like petra.

yazidis anyway have run away from the region, those who could escape.

rest is all islam already.

i guess they have a lot of free time on hands since nobody is attacking them.

its brochure-giri saar, to show their patrons evidence of work getting done.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 05 Oct 2015 21:51

Even Arabs before Islam must have had very good artifacts and culture. Nothing is visible now. May be the destruction is to completely erase all superior culture that existed before and prevent the population from returning back to their roots once they realize their history and its richness.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Oct 2015 06:39

the arab peninsula was not exactly a civilization in pre-islamic times, desolate, not on any land trading route

the main cities in sumeria, mesopotamia(iraq-syria) and persia(iraq-iran) and nabatea(petra) and turkey are the architectural legacy of the region, arabia is a pile of rock and sand.

nobody gave a rats a** about the Sauds until the american-british sponsorship came on discovery of oil, they chased out the jordan king from the Hejaj and anointed themselves as the cash rich uber munna while anglos extracted the oil and lived in gated townships with all wine and free women allowed.

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Oct 2015 21:06

Singha wrote:record number of people are being KIA in nigeria

Hindustan Times

Nigeria: 18 killed, 41 injured in multiple bomb blasts in Abuja
Hindustan Times - ‎2 hours ago‎

At least 18 people were killed and 41 wounded in two explosions that ripped through the outskirts of Nigeria's capital Abuja, the National Emergency Management Agency said on Saturday.

Confirmation that the Abuja attacks was an act of Mohammadden Terrorism by way of Boko Haram taking responsibility:

Nigeria: Boko Haram Claims Responsibility for Abuja Blasts

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Oct 2015 07:35

if there is a practice that needs to be urgently outlawed its this triple talaq business. its a convenient stick for men to enjoy women and get off with no consequences.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 251154.cms

ALAPPUZHA: Ten days after she got married, a 21-year-old Kerala college student's groom left for Dubai, and three weeks later, texted her a 'triple talaq' over WhatsApp.

"He said she was like an apple and he had already tasted it. So he did not want her anymore," said J Prameela Devi, a member of the state women's commission adalat.

The girl's mother had paid the groom a dowry of Rs 10 lakhs and also given him 80 sovereigns of gold. The unexpected talaq shattered the woman who was enrolled in a dental studies college. She and her sister dropped out college and school, respectively. The girl returned home from her in-laws' residence when they ignored the talaq.

On Monday the woman gathered her courage and lodged a complaint at the women's commission's adalat in Pala, Kottayam.

The commission, which questions the validity of a 'WhatsApp talaq', has ordered the department of non-resident Keralites' affairs to find the woman's husband, a 27-year-old, who's originally from Vaikom in Kottayam. It has also told the police to present the man's parents during the next adalat.

"I don't think a normal youth can act in this manner. The commission should provide protection and legal aid to the girl and her mother,'' said B Sugathakumari, an activist-poet and former chairperson of the state women's commission. She said strict action must be taken against the man.

In the meanwhile, the talaq over WhatsApp has divided Islamic scholars.

The talaq is valid said a member of the Samastha Kerala Jam-Iyyathul Ulama, on Tuesday "The divorce, however, will be granted only after holding discussions with both the man and wife and their family members. If the husband sticks to his stand, divorce will be sanctioned," said Sayyed Attakoya Thangal, the district president of the Ulama.

Another member of the same organization who's also chairman of the state Haj committee, said the WhatsApp message was not a legal document. "Talaq should ideally be done face-to-face. If it is not possible, talaq can be done after presenting relevant documents signed by witnesses," said Kottumala T M Bappu Musaliyar.

An "oversimplification of the entire process" is what Kerala Nadvathul Mujahideen state president T P Abdulla Koya Madani, called the WhatsApp divorce. "Talaq should be done under unavoidable circumstances and conditions. Mandatory steps for talaq cannot be followed in WhatsApp."

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 07 Oct 2015 09:34

This is what has been done to the Muslims of Kerala by the Islamist's under the patronage pseudo secular Left Democratic Front (Left+Islamists) and the United Democratic Front (Congress+Islamists). Kerala Muslims had a different identity which is that they dont used to wear Burkha. They used to cover their hair using a simple Thattam (or head cover) Today the Muslim woman of Kerala is made to wear Burkha and all illegal practices like these happened after long rule of the left and congress.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Oct 2015 03:56

‘We’re Going to Be the Majority Soon’ taunt Muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=x4FMfUO0vkw

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 09 Oct 2015 13:43

The 'Birmingham Koran' fragment that could shake Islam after carbon-dating suggests it is OLDER than the Prophet Muhammad

The 'Birmingham Koran' fragment that could shake Islam after carbon-dating suggests it is OLDER than the Prophet Muhammad
Fragments of the oldest Koran were discovered last month in Birmingham
Carbon dating found the pages were produced between 568AD and 654AD
But several historians now say that the parchment may predate Muhammad
They believe that this discovery could rewrite the early history of Islam
By JENNIFER NEWTON FOR MAILONLINE
31 August 2015

Fragments of the world's oldest Koran, found in Birmingham last month, may predate the Prophet Muhammad and could even rewrite the early history of Islam, according to scholars.
The pages, thought to be between 1,448 and 1,371 years old, were discovered bound within the pages of another Koran from the late seventh century at the library of the University of Birmingham.
Written in ink in an early form of Arabic script on parchment made from animal skin, the pages contain parts of the Suras, or chapters, 18 to 20, which may have been written by someone who actually knew the Prophet Muhammad - founder of the Islamic faith.

Discovery: Fragments of what is believed to be the world's oldest Koran. Several historians have said it could even predate the Prophet Muhammad

Discovery: Fragments of what is believed to be the world's oldest Koran. Several historians have said it could even predate the Prophet Muhammad
The pages were carbon-dated by experts at the University of Oxford, a process which showed the Islamic holy book manuscript could be the oldest Koran in the world.
The discovery was said to be particularly significant as in the early years of Islam, the Koran was thought to have been memorised and passed down orally rather written.
But now several historians have said that the parchment might even predate Muhammad.
It is believed that the Birmingham Koran was produced between 568AD and 645AD, while the dates usually given for Muhammad are between 570AD and 632AD.
Historian Tom Holland, told the Times: 'It destabilises, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged - and that in turn has implications for the history of Muhammad and the Companions.'
Keith Small, from the University of Oxford's Bodleian Library, added: 'This gives more ground to what have been peripheral views of the Koran's genesis, like that Muhammad and his early followers used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven.
The pages were carbon dated by experts at the University of Oxford, which showed it could be the oldest Koran in the world

The pages were carbon dated by experts at the University of Oxford, which showed it could be the oldest Koran in the world
Scientists find world's oldest Koran hidden in university library
HOW DID IT GET TO BIRMINGHAM?
The ancient pages were found bound alongside those of a younger copy of the Koran from the seventh century AD.
It is thought they had been put together because the Hijazi script on the parchment was similar.
They had been collected during the 1920s by a Chaldean priest called Alphonse Mingana who put together a huge collection of documents from the Middle East.
His expeditions to the Middle East were sponsored by Edward Cadbury, from the chocolate dynasty.
A special library was built at Selly Oak Colleges in Birmingham, a group of colleges set up by a group of Quakers led by George Cadbury.
When the colleges were merged with the University of Birmingham in the 1990s, the collection was brought under the care of the Cadbury Research Library at the university.
The fragments of the Koran then lay undiscovered until they were sent for radio carbon dating at the University of Oxford.
However, these claims are strongly disputed by Muslim scholars, with Mustafa Shah from the School of Oriental and African Studies in London also telling the paper: 'If anything, the manuscript has consolidated traditional accounts of the Koran's origins.'
The Prophet Muhammad is thought to have founded Islam sometime after 610AD and the first Muslim community was founded in Medina in 622AD.
During this time the Koran was memorised and recited orally but Caliph Abu Bakr, the first leader of the Muslim community after Muhammad's death, ordered the Koranic material to be collected into a book.
The final authoritative written form was not completed until 650AD under the third leader Caliph Uthman.
Professor Nadir Dinshaw, who studies interreligious relations at the University of Birmingham, described the discovery as 'startling'.
When it was found last month he said: 'This could well take us back to within a few years of the actual founding of Islam.
'According to Muslim tradition, the Prophet Muhammad received the revelations that form the Qur'an, the scripture of Islam, between the years AD 610 and 632, the year of his death.
'At this time, the divine message was not compiled into the book form in which it appears today. Instead, the revelations were preserved in 'the memories of men'.
'Parts of it had also been written down on parchment, stone, palm leaves and the shoulder blades of camels.
Muslims believe that the Koran they read today is the same text that was standardised under Uthman and regard it as the exact record of the revelations that were delivered to Muhammad

Muslims believe that the Koran they read today is the same text that was standardised under Uthman and regard it as the exact record of the revelations that were delivered to Muhammad
THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM: WHO IS THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD?
The Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca in Saudi Arabia in 570AD.
Although Muslims believe that Islam is a faith that has always existed and was gradually revealed to humanity by a number of prophets, Muhammad is the one said to have made the complete revelation in the seventh century.
The traditional story of the Koran tells how one night in 610 Muhammad, a deeply spiritual and religious man, was meditating in a cave on Mount Hira when he was visited by the angel Jibreel who ordered him to recite.
Once Jibreel mentioned the name of Allah, Muhammad began to recite words which he came to believe were the words of God.
These revelations continued for 23 years and are collectively known as the Koran.
When he began to recite the Koran, Muhammad and his small group of followers suffered persecution from unbelievers. In 622 God gave them the command to migrate from Mecca to the city of Medina, some 260 miles to the north, which marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar.
After several years, Muhammad and his followers returned to Mecca and forgave their enemies.
Shortly before Muhammad died, at the age of 63, the majority of the Arabian Peninsula had become Muslim. Within a century of his death Islam had also spread to Spain in the west and as far east as China.
Islam is now the second largest religion in the world with over one billion followers. The 2011 census recorded 2.71million Muslims in the UK, around 4.5 per cent of the total population.
'Muslims believe that the Koran they read today is the same text that was standardised under Uthman and regard it as the exact record of the revelations that were delivered to Muhammad.
'The tests carried out on the parchment of the Birmingham folios yield the strong probability that the animal from which it was taken was alive during the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad or shortly afterwards.
'These portions must have been in a form that is very close to the form of the Koran read today, supporting the view that the text has undergone little or no alteration and that it can be dated to a point very close to the time it was believed to be revealed.'

Read more:
Koran discovery could rewrite Islamic history | The Times

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Oct 2015 03:04

The REAL Reason Saudi Arabia Hates Iran

The REAL Reason Saudi Arabia Hates Iran

Everyone knows that the Saudi Arabia – the center of Sunni Islam – hates Iran because it is the center for the rival Shia Muslim sect.

The Saudis – close U.S. allies – also hate Iran because it is allied with Russia.

But there is a third, little-known reason why the Saudi government hates Iran.

As the Gulf Cooperation Council – the official council for the Arab Gulf States, comprised of the monarchies of Saudi Arabi, Kuwait, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman – writes:

More than any other single factor, the Iranian Revolution helped to coalesce the security concerns of Saudi Arabia and the other monarchies in the Gulf region. As the largest Arab monarchy, Saudi Arabia was in a position to lead the others toward cooperative efforts. The impact of the Iranian Revolution on Saudi Arabia was manifold. The revolution destroyed the most powerful monarchy in the Gulf area. It was the second revolution to send shock waves throughout the Gulf region, the first being the revolution in Iraq that destroyed the monarchy in 1958. The Iraqi revolution had been followed by deteriorating relations between Riyadh and Baghdad, when the Baathist regime tried to subvert the Gulf monarchies. The Iranian example, however, appeared more menacing. The balance of forces seemed to have changed further against the monarchical regimes in the region because Iran, like Iraq, replaced the monarchy with a republic. Whatever course the new Iranian republic took, its very existence would threaten Saudi Arabia and other Gulf monarchies.
In other words, the Saudi government hates Iran because it is a republic, while Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states are monarchies.

Indeed, Vijay Prashad – Professor of South Asian History at Trinity College, Connecticut – said today (starting at 33:22) that the Saudis want to crush Iran so that it cannot set an example showing that Muslims can live in a republic without a monarchy.

Prashad points out that the “Saudis made claim that a Muslim country has to be a monarchy”, and Iran’s very existence undermines that claim.

Why does the U.S. support Saudi Arabia and not Iran?

As Lawrence Davidson – author of Islamic Fundamentalism, and professor of history at West Chester University – explains:

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy without representative institutions. Iran, though ideologically authoritarian and possessing the dictatorial office of jurisprudent, is a republic with a parliament and an electoral process. Saudi Arabia strictly forbids female participation in the public realm, whereas Iran leaves some space for women in this regard.

Given these comparisons, it would seem that, in terms of institutions and their potential for “democratic evolution,” the Islamic Republic in Iran has much more to recommend it to the West than does Saudi Arabia. Why then, one might ask, is the United States so much more hostile to Iran than to Saudi Arabia?

***

For decades, the United States supported the shah’s monarchy in Iran and continued to do so even after it was clear that it was unpopular, corrupt, and oppressive. When the shah was overthrown, the fundamentalists who took power identified the United States with the deposed government. The new Iranian government’s predictable hostility made difficult any reconciliation between the two powers and fueled continued American animosity.
Indeed, the U.S. supports virtually all of the dictatorial monarchies in the Arab Gulf.

And, of course, there is oil and pipelines play a big part.

Postscript: By way of background, the CIA admits that the U.S. overthrew the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was overthrown because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister.

If the U.S. hadn’t overthrown the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 11 Oct 2015 01:28

Today is #NoakhaliDay but burning Hindus alive, be-headings, forced conversions, mass rapes still continue unabated in the Indian sub continent. Please RT.

akashganga · Post by **akashganga** » 11 Oct 2015 06:55

In my opinion the real reason saudis hate iran is because iran has not been arabised even 1400 years after founding of islam, iran still follows many elements of its pre-islamic zoarastrian culture such as their new year, iranians speak persian not arabic.

chetak wrote:The REAL Reason Saudi Arabia Hates Iran

The REAL Reason Saudi Arabia Hates Iran

Everyone knows that the Saudi Arabia – the center of Sunni Islam – hates Iran because it is the center for the rival Shia Muslim sect.

The Saudis – close U.S. allies – also hate Iran because it is allied with Russia.

But there is a third, little-known reason why the Saudi government hates Iran.

As the Gulf Cooperation Council – the official council for the Arab Gulf States, comprised of the monarchies of Saudi Arabi, Kuwait, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman – writes:

More than any other single factor, the Iranian Revolution helped to coalesce the security concerns of Saudi Arabia and the other monarchies in the Gulf region. As the largest Arab monarchy, Saudi Arabia was in a position to lead the others toward cooperative efforts. The impact of the Iranian Revolution on Saudi Arabia was manifold. The revolution destroyed the most powerful monarchy in the Gulf area. It was the second revolution to send shock waves throughout the Gulf region, the first being the revolution in Iraq that destroyed the monarchy in 1958. The Iraqi revolution had been followed by deteriorating relations between Riyadh and Baghdad, when the Baathist regime tried to subvert the Gulf monarchies. The Iranian example, however, appeared more menacing. The balance of forces seemed to have changed further against the monarchical regimes in the region because Iran, like Iraq, replaced the monarchy with a republic. Whatever course the new Iranian republic took, its very existence would threaten Saudi Arabia and other Gulf monarchies.
In other words, the Saudi government hates Iran because it is a republic, while Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states are monarchies.

Indeed, Vijay Prashad – Professor of South Asian History at Trinity College, Connecticut – said today (starting at 33:22) that the Saudis want to crush Iran so that it cannot set an example showing that Muslims can live in a republic without a monarchy.

Prashad points out that the “Saudis made claim that a Muslim country has to be a monarchy”, and Iran’s very existence undermines that claim.

Why does the U.S. support Saudi Arabia and not Iran?

As Lawrence Davidson – author of Islamic Fundamentalism, and professor of history at West Chester University – explains:

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy without representative institutions. Iran, though ideologically authoritarian and possessing the dictatorial office of jurisprudent, is a republic with a parliament and an electoral process. Saudi Arabia strictly forbids female participation in the public realm, whereas Iran leaves some space for women in this regard.

Given these comparisons, it would seem that, in terms of institutions and their potential for “democratic evolution,” the Islamic Republic in Iran has much more to recommend it to the West than does Saudi Arabia. Why then, one might ask, is the United States so much more hostile to Iran than to Saudi Arabia?

***

For decades, the United States supported the shah’s monarchy in Iran and continued to do so even after it was clear that it was unpopular, corrupt, and oppressive. When the shah was overthrown, the fundamentalists who took power identified the United States with the deposed government. The new Iranian government’s predictable hostility made difficult any reconciliation between the two powers and fueled continued American animosity.
Indeed, the U.S. supports virtually all of the dictatorial monarchies in the Arab Gulf.

And, of course, there is oil and pipelines play a big part.

Postscript: By way of background, the CIA admits that the U.S. overthrew the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was overthrown because he had nationalized Iran’s oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister.

If the U.S. hadn’t overthrown the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Oct 2015 07:20

“Three explosions at a market and a refugee camp on the shores of Lake Chad have killed dozens. The Chadian military has blamed the Islamist insurgency Boko Haram for the attacks” :

Suspected Boko Haram suicide attacks kill dozens in Chad

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Oct 2015 07:31

Notwithstanding the involvement of pro-Kurdish elements in the rally, given that Turkey is an overwhelmingly Mohammadden country and the modus operandi of this attack, namely use of suicide bombers, I will not at all be surprised that this attack in Ankara will be revealed to be an act of Mohammadden Terrorism:

At least 95 killed in twin blast in Turkey's Ankara ahead of peace rally

member_29089 · Post by **member_29089** » 11 Oct 2015 07:52

chetak wrote:The 'Birmingham Koran' fragment that could shake Islam after carbon-dating suggests it is OLDER than the Prophet Muhammad

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Read more:
Koran discovery could rewrite Islamic history | The Times

This is a classic propaganda by the British (or west) to slyly suggest that Mo plagiarized the crap. If Oxford wanted to prove one predates the other they would have compared fragments from BOTH and then declare the results. For example along with the fragment of Koran they should have carbon dated one of following; a fragment of a love letter written by Mo to Ayesha (or Rehana, Maria, or any of 13 official wives). A fragment of wick from the grenade from the turban. Or even a fragment from the white wing feathers of the horse. By simply dating a fragment from only one piece and declaring one predates the other sounds like a cheap shot at one of the great religions of the world. I bet if fragments from BOTH are compared then the dates will match precisely. Just my two dinars.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Oct 2015 04:29

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-20 ... cheers-ban
Obama Bans Pork in All Federal Prisons (You Won’t Believe Why)... Update: CAIR Cheers Ban

The Obama administration has banned bacon, pork chops, pork links, ham and all other pork products from all federal prisons.
But for those concerned that the U.S. government is bending to the will of Muslim inmates, the Bureau of Prisons, which falls under the charge of the Justice Department, insists the change was made based on a survey of prisoners’ food preferences, the Washington Post reported.Apparently inmates just don’t like bacon … who knew?“Why keep pushing food that people don’t want to eat?” prison bureau spokesman Edmond Ross told the Post, presumably with a straight face. “Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years.”Inmates can still obtain packaged pork rinds and precooked bacon at the prison commissary, according to the Post, assuming they have the means to pay for it.
Naturally, the Council on American-Islamic Relations is thrilled with the decision.“In general we welcome the change because it’s facilitating the accommodation of Muslim inmates,’ said CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. “We hope it’s not an indication of an increasing number of Muslims in the prison system.”The nation’s pork producers, on the other hand, who first learned of the ban on Monday when contacted by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram for comment, are not as pleased.“I find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon,’” National Pork Producers Council spokesman Dave Warner told the Post.
Smart man.“We’re going to find out how this came about and go from there,” Warner added. “We wouldn’t rule out any options to resolve this.”They may want to start with a close look at how the questions were structured in the “survey.” Ether way, it seems as if the battle over bacon has commenced in earnest.

saip · Post by **saip** » 12 Oct 2015 06:04

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Oct 2015 01:54

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mailonline

Dying Palestinian has a 'PORK CHOP' placed on his face after he stabbed an Israeli police officer and was gunned down

This is the moment it was claimed a pork chop was placed on the face of a dying Palestinian man.
He had been gunned down after allegedly stabbing an Israeli police officer in the settlement of Kiryat Arba, near Hebron.In 12 days of bloodshed four Israelis and 26 Palestinians have been killed in Jerusalem, the Israeli-occupied West Bank, Gaza and in Israeli cities. The death toll is said to include eight children.
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Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 14 Oct 2015 03:00

Jhujar wrote:http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-20 ... cheers-ban
Obama Bans Pork in All Federal Prisons (You Won’t Believe Why)... Update: CAIR Cheers Ban

The Obama administration has banned bacon, pork chops, pork links, ham and all other pork products from all federal prisons.

Jhujar Ji :

In England and Wales HMPS serves only Halal Meats and Porcine Products are not permitted.

Why the surge in Muslim prisoners?

In 2002, 5,502 prisoners in England and Wales said they were Muslim.
Three years later, the number had risen to 7,246 and almost a decade on, by December 2014, it had reached 12,225.

Indeed, prisoner numbers have risen from an average of 70,778 in 2002 to 84,691 last December.
But that 20% increase in the jail population has been outstripped by the rise in Muslim inmates - up 122%.

In the 2001 census, 3% of people in England and Wales said they were Muslim - 1.55 million.
By 2011, that had gone up to 4.8 % - 2.7 million people - so you'd expect the numbers in prison to go up too.

Cheers

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2015 17:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvNyTx0 ... e=youtu.be (Youtube posted by Tarek Fatah).
"Boy Slaughters Toy Lamb as Mothers chant Allah O Akbar and Spill Make-belief blood"

Published on Oct 10, 2015
If you've ever wondered why we Muslims are desinsensitised to bloodshed, this video should explain it.

The clip shows an Arab boy going through initiation rites as he slaughters his toy plastic lamb while his mother spills make-belief blood and other mothers chant 'Allah O Akbar'.

Now I wait for one of my people to claim this scene was staged by Hindus and Jews to defame Muslims.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Oct 2015 22:29

Muslim inmates living in fear at UK prison

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 03483.html

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 Oct 2015 07:34

On the day of the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden acts of violence carried out by female suicide bombers results in 7 dead in Maiduguri in Nigeria:

Maiduguri bombed again in Friday morning attack

In Maiduguri a day earlier, on Thursday, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden act of violence carried out by 2 suicide bombers targeting a Mohammadden place of worship during prayer time, had killed between 14 and 42:

Dozens die in double suicide bomb attack on Nigerian mosque

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Oct 2015 08:11

maiduguri sounds like a north bengal town name but is in Nigeria!
seems to suffer multiple jihadi hits every week.

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 Oct 2015 09:48

^^^ Yes, Maiduguri and Siliguri do sound similarish.