Re: The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc)

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 22 Nov 2015 19:27

In a globalized world, terror strike hits the unlikeliest people in the unlikeliest of places. We received news about a distant relation who died in the Mali hostage crisis. It is a reminder that terror does not discriminate based on national boundaries or gender or anything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an ... story.html

I hope the world realizes that this form of violence should be declared as war and not some grievance expression mechanism. Modiji's statement today that India is not constrained by the boundaries but it lives around in the world in hearts of people seemed more true today.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 22 Nov 2015 20:22

chetak wrote:
S Gurumurthy ‏@sgurumurthy 9h9 hours ago
Media reported in Sept Russian intelligence offered to CIA & Interpol a massive list of 87,000 Jihadists roaming around in US and Europe
RETWEETS 85 LIKES 35

S Gurumurthy ‏@sgurumurthy 9h9 hours ago
CIA/Interpol refused to receive it because it was “not politically viable in the present atmosphere”. Paris assault exactly 60 days later
58 retweets 26 likes

Interpol is not US property. Guys please be selective while posting such crap.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 22 Nov 2015 20:53

prahaar wrote:In a globalized world, terror strike hits the unlikeliest people in the unlikeliest of places. We received news about a distant relation who died in the Mali hostage crisis. It is a reminder that terror does not discriminate based on national boundaries or gender or anything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an ... story.html

I hope the world realizes that this form of violence should be declared as war and not some grievance expression mechanism. Modiji's statement today that India is not constrained by the boundaries but it lives around in the world in hearts of people seemed more true today.

Sorry to hear that. No one to project Mali flags anywhere - certainly not NDTV or CNN IBN.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 22 Nov 2015 21:31

"No one to project Mali flags anywhere - certainly not NDTV or CNN IBN."

Sorry, don't follow. Is it that Indian TV stations are not even indicating that the attack took place on Mali? They must have mentioned the country verbally, at least one hopes!

member_29247 · Post by **member_29247** » 22 Nov 2015 21:39

rsingh wrote:S Gurumurthy ‏@sgurumurthy 9h9 hours ago
Media reported in Sept Russian intelligence offered to CIA & Interpol a massive list of 87,000 Jihadists roaming around in US and Europe
RETWEETS 85 LIKES 35 .....

S Gurumurthy ‏@sgurumurthy 9h9 hours ago
CIA/Interpol refused to receive it because it was “not politically viable in the present atmosphere”. Paris assault exactly 60 days later
58 retweets 26 likes

Interpol is not US property. Guys please be selective while posting such crap.

Where is it implied that Interpol is US property

If Some says " US/UN "

It just implies that two entities called US which is a sovereign nation
While UN is a collection of sovereign nations

It does not imply US owns UN which may be true as it appears to be

Like wise CIA is nations institution, while Intepol is a collective institution of nations no?
Is what implied in the above tweet?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 22 Nov 2015 21:45

I think we are reading too much in this attack. The west's attitude will not change. W Europe will not break away from the Americans to take on the ISIS along with the Russians.

In Churchill's memoirs he said of a particular turn of events ( I read it 36 years ago and do not remember the exact event), this is not the end of the battle, this is the end of the beginning....

As for the war against Islam. I am not even sure if the war has begun....or even if a war will take place after all....

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 22 Nov 2015 22:33

From piskolocy perspective I am wondering if 'Brussels on high alert' is diverting the rage surrounding Paris attack (who gives a fk about other acts anyway) and may even put a pause on spontaneous over reaction even if that over reaction (sometimes) is good.

If Belgium as state is hand in glove with paris attack terrorists, then it is pretending to be a victim, an art perfected by pakistan.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 22 Nov 2015 22:34

There is no end to a war.
The powers want to use these jihadists for their own ends, leverage against allies, trouble-making in hostile states. They may be at war, but tyat war will stop the day the jihadist leadership agrees to 'work with' the powers, and not against them.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 22 Nov 2015 23:05

ISIS Has Help Desk for Terrorists Staffed Around the Clock - Nov 16, 2015

They have
- 24/7 help desk
- travel desk (may travel business class and might have free baggage check-ins),
- company provided vehicles (we know 1000s of toyota pickups)
- marketing coverage (almost all western media is/was giving them amazing coverage both width and depth wise)
- extremely generous donations from west (tons of ammunition dropped by US)
- access to black market (Turkey and others buying oil from ISIS). Not sure if anyone investigated how much of that is flowing to US. There was news about miles and miles long queue of oil tanker ships at Gulf port of Galveston, Tx.

I am waiting for news with details on
- company credit cards
- focal point performance reviews
-bonus before death (we know of 72 virgins super bonus after death)

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 22 Nov 2015 23:08

Belgium was in total gridlock bandh as threat of imminent attack continues to be high

member_29247 · Post by **member_29247** » 22 Nov 2015 23:09

As usual like Indo TSPak GOTUS is playing both sides in Syria

One side along KSA encourage ISIS and then play to galleries as if opposed to terror.

The ISIS sell below market price oil, KSA pumps to hurt Russia, so the EU benefits low prices, so why would they wean away from this game. Yes few died in Paris ...some more presence of tackling terror

Russia has to alone , isolating Russia in every which is a core part of GOTUS doctrine be it democrat or republican ... Brezenzkie or Rice

So it will go on

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 23 Nov 2015 01:26

Satya_anveshi wrote:From piskolocy perspective I am wondering if 'Brussels on high alert' is diverting the rage surrounding Paris attack (who gives a fk about other acts anyway) and may even put a pause on spontaneous over reaction even if that over reaction (sometimes) is good.

If Belgium as state is hand in glove with paris attack terrorists, then it is pretending to be a victim, an art perfected by pakistan.

No, that's no piskology, just a projection of an Indian perspective on a European context. The result, as in the case of applying Western concepts to understand India, is plain nonsense.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 02:23

^^Boolsheet.
I guess by that yardstick, Victoria Nuland's 'Fu(k EU' is also projection of "Indian perspective on European context."

Why can't this event be that Nuland's F-EU?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Nov 2015 03:32

There is enough hate/distrust between France and Belgium (and Holland and Belgium) to make something like that very costly, hain? Surely L'Inspecteur Clouseau and Claude Lebel would eventually figure it out?

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 03:58

I am not putting a lot of capital on that theory but cannot simply be thrown away as non-sense.

Brussels is HQ for both NATO and EU.

Few Paki like species, who see their bread is more buttered on the NATO side, are enough to screw rest of the folks on the EU side.

Malaysian airline investigation though was not upto Russian expectation but it did not quite blamed Russia.

Also, I posted a report earlier about the Council of Europe investigation of Odessa massacre (almost) blamed Ukraine and around the same time French Senator was quoted saying that Russian sanctions not only need to be removed but are counter productive and further he said, relationship with Russia should be upped into strategic partnership.

So, EU is not quite doing all that NATO/Nuland would like them to do.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Nov 2015 05:29

And how does the refugee/security crisis impact Dera Merkel Khan I wonder. Surely it is not doing their economy any favors either.

Very scary, whatever the Endgame of the ISIS/KSA/Turkey is. I mean, was this a desperado scheme to take over Syria, that went horribly wrong, ultimately because a bunch of desperate, terrified Syrians held out at two airbases for 3 years?
If that is the case, then I can explain that the ISIS and their masters are now getting desperate, and lashing out at one and all. Once chased out of Syria, they can try to hold in Iraq, but now there are too many ppl asking questions and posting cartoons like the one above - so ISIS advances in Eyerak will be a no-go in DupliCity in an Election Year. The B-52s and B-2s and Apaches and C-130Js have to come out. So the ISIS is down to sheltering in Turkey - and EU pressures will cause a civil war in Turkey. Which leaves KSA up the proverbial pakistan creek.
And now I wonder what is Putin's endgame and exit strategy: regime change in Turkey, game-change in KSA? Make it impossible to hold down oil prices, make it impossible for EU to bail out UkBapZis?
The Black Sea Fleet gets base rights at Constantinople? The Bosporus closed to US/EU warships? And the CAR Pipeline coming down to the Pesian Gulf through Eyeran **AND** Eyerak, protected by the Peopre's A/C Ruan?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 23 Nov 2015 07:17

The former head of French intelligence about the current work, failures and intelligence agencies combating terrorism
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1592039.html

The former head of French intelligence Alain SHUE (Alain Chouet) in an interview points to the failures of the French intelligence services, responsible for internal and external security, which took place before the events of 13 November.

Were you surprised by the presence of the transition to active Islamist militants in Paris, although some of them were known and were wanted?

Of course not. For about a year of intelligence experts, including myself, who is retired for 12 years, beat the alarm on the prevention of the risk of an imminent terrorist attack. It should be clearly understood that the "Islamic State" (IG) has a clear strategy for its development in becoming a state, while it is losing ground in the impoverishment of resources, which forces him to turn to terrorist acts, as his time was the case with 'Al -Kaidoy. " For IG need to maintain their credibility, their sponsors and their support. Until November 13, it was only about the people who led their immediate superiors, without receiving direct instructions from the IG. They spent lightning action in Syria and lack of professionalism. As an example, recall the case of the terrorist who shot himself in the foot, or a scene with a high-speed train Thalys, where militants jammed weapon. And today, on the contrary, we are faced with these well-trained and organized militants who brought violence to a new level.

It is the reason for this transparency of borders "Schengen area"?

These guys have European passports, both real and fake, which simplifies their task. But due to the fact that along with the "Schengen area", we have created a common legal space, but without a common legal rules. Specifically, we can go somewhere border controls, in the country where it is carried out not so well, because it is not very concerned about security issues, and then to move anywhere without any control. No one in Europe, no passport with security and our borders are transparent. You can rejoice in this fact, since otherwise the majority of the population would experience inconvenience. Fortunately, we live in a legal and free countries. There is no consensus on the introduction of continuous monitoring of persons at the border, such as practiced in Israel. For us it will not be possible.

Investigation into the events on November 13 revealed deficiencies in the conduct of domestic intelligence. What should be done to fix them?

Unless we are talking about the shortcomings of firefighters or police when there was a deliberate arson in the forest? Fortunately, I believe that the original union in 2008, DST (Direction de la Surveillance du Territoire, Department of Territorial Surveillance) and RG (Renseignements Généraux, General Intelligence) in a new intelligence agency DCRI (Direction Centrale du Renseignement Intérieur, Central Office of Internal Intelligence ) [2014 transformed into DGSI, Direction Générale de la Sécurité Intérieure, Main Department of Homeland Security] was a good idea. In theory, it was possible to combine the capabilities of intelligence and criminal police (Police Judiciaire, PJ) for the control of the territory, in particular problem areas. The trouble is that this association has been poorly implemented. Instead of having to integrate all RG, they dismantled for parts: a small part included in DCRI, some were in PJ, and the rest went to the regional service. Specificity RG, which was to work in the territory, was weakened. Since RG is less engaged journalists and trade unionists, and to keep abreast with respect to troubled neighborhoods. And this loss.

Also on the American model we would like to focus on technical intelligence, to "large amounts of information," and things like that. However, this is not a very efficient way. It is necessary to look at the United States, the statements of the NSA Director General Alexander, made in 2013, with respect to a very relative effectiveness of those billions of dollars that have been spent after the September 11, 2001. Today, in this issue we are in the same place: we are concentrating our resources on technical intelligence and weakens the human intelligence. In defense of the police, I note that until 13 November have been hundreds of successful searches, which suggests that they had a purpose but no legal framework and the political will to implement specific steps. The failure, if it took place, also often associated with the political side of the issue.

What happens to the foreign intelligence service, DGSE, your former home?

Here, the same problem that in the case of counterintelligence: priority technical data. To date, the DGSE not have enough people who speak Arabic, which is well-known adherents of Salafism, and their way of thinking. When people see the size of salaries in state institutions, the real experts are going to other places. In addition there is a business organization "on the Gallic style": a clumsy hierarchy, with the structures that are not interact with each other. Especially there is under-funding of human intelligence, as well as the lack of resources on the ground, as financed by technical means of intelligence, as well as domestic issues.

Satisfactory if the level of exchange of information between the DGSE and DGSI?

"In general, they are positive", if you apply the formula of Georges Marchais. But you still need the exchange of objects, and this is more difficult, as no exploration carried out on the ground. More seriously, the problem DGSE, where I worked for 35 years, is that it is necessary to know the moment when the information sent in the DGSI, will set in motion, that is, when the information becomes known. This leads us to the question: at what point my source, which is often located abroad in hazardous conditions in danger? As for us, as I believe, for journalists to protect their sources is the most important issue. But when the danger is no source, the information in a large volume without hesitation passed.

What should be done to improve the analysis and use of intelligence obtained?

You can always do better. To use, it is necessary to analyze, and to analyze the required qualified staff who know the culture, history and geography of a particular country. Wanted as both specialists with a long experience as both "apprentice", which should be taught. But our politicians have a complete lack of experience in intelligence matters. In early 2001, I was asked to refocus some of my people engaged in the fight against terrorism, to counter illegal immigration because of what happened with the discovery of the ship, jam clogged migrants. And then on September 12 the same year, I had to double the staff units to combat terrorism, as if I was the day I can find a similar 200-300 professionals ...

How does the exchange of information between European countries?

Not very well, as the exchange and transfer of intelligence between national intelligence services is strictly regulated and is sandwiched within the "Schengen area". In addition, some countries would like to maintain its sovereignty in this area. In addition, the system PNR (Rassenger name record - a database of names of the passengers) had still not been created, as opposed to a few countries. Again, not enough common legal rules. Sharing intelligence from foreign intelligence easier to pass at the bilateral level, from country to country, because we have the habit of the old agreement. But you can not talk about anything in a forum where there are 28 countries that often have different interests. And of course there are problems at the level of large-scale electronic intelligence, which many regard as a clash with the freedom of citizens.

The exchange of information takes place with the great powers such as the US or Russia?

With the United States it works somehow. They have 16 intelligence agencies, who are not connected, they operate 300,000 employees. This is the realm of specialization and isolation one from the other departments. Here is a simple example. The FBI can ask us for information, but to give it to us can not, because it is secret. This is problem. In the case of Russia, there is a difficulty of another kind: the integration of intelligence in the service of Russian foreign policy. In short, they give us only what they want, and this information should be checked. Each time it should be treated with great caution.

Maybe we do not keep a constant exploration of destroyed states or countries where there is a war, such as Syria, Iraq, Libya?

To a large extent, yes. France severed all ties with Syrian intelligence agencies DGSE. Although security services created in order to have dinner even with the devil himself, or else they do not need. The fact that the authorities wanted to break off all relations with the Syrian regime is fully justified decision. But the role of intelligence is to be able to, and, if necessary, to maintain the informal communication channel. When recently the Syrian secret services tried to restore an informal channel of communication with the help of former employees of the French secret services, they received a categorical refusal. Whether right or left in power, but there is a lack of understanding of what are the security services. Our job is to maintain contact with suspicious persons. We do not judge, not the police, not the diplomats, and if we are allowed to talk with Syrian agents, that it will not be the political intelligence of the Assad regime.

In the case of Libya and Iraq in recent years it has also lost some good contacts. Not every day, but we worked with them against violence from Islamists. We knew that in the list of 50 people they send to us, there were five of their opposition to the regime. We took this into account. Today, we are blind, of the three countries we do not get information. And in the gray areas, where there is no state authority, in the Sahel, or anywhere else, it's hard work blond with blue eyes, or recruit agents on the spot, as the Islamo-mafia groups are very dangerous and kill without hesitation.

At what level is being shared with the countries of the Maghreb, Turkey and Egypt?

With the Maghreb countries, as well as with the other, the exchange is carried out in accordance with their own interests, but it is very useful. For example, it is the Moroccan intelligence helped us in the last days to reach a group of Saint-Denis. Algerian security services work is conducted in accordance with the policy in respect of the ruling regime. In Tunisia, the security services virtually destroyed. In Egypt, they are weakened, but still working. As for Turkey, we say so - they are tough.

Are there countries that conduct their game, or who have other views on the Islamists, different from ours?

Yes, there are ideological and financial supporters of terrorism. Petrosteyty Gulf who are trying by all means, in particular through the dissemination of the ideology of Salafism, prevent the creation of a Shiite axis from Lebanon to Iran, who have problems with legitimacy in the eyes of Muslims, and which prevent any manifestation of democracy. Saudi Arabia, for example, is already 30 years engaged in propaganda of Salafism and Wahhabism in Europe, with the help of schools and foundations, and today we see the result. Even 30 years ago, French Muslims do not know what Wahhabism. At one time, in 1980, Iran has resorted to state terrorism, but declined it.

In conclusion, you're fighting for something to collect less data but to develop human intelligence in the French security services.

In the US, a massive collection of information is not possible to avoid terrorist attacks in Boston, and even weekly campus shootings, which the authors declared in social networks. You should not put all your eggs in one basket, namely massive wiretapping. We need human and operational resources. Abandoning one satellite radio-electronic intelligence, we can employ hundreds of people. But it takes time and political will. In the late 1990s, after the terrorist attacks occurred in 1995, related to the situation in Algeria, came to me and said that my service is expensive, it does not solve major problems, since nothing happens. The Ministry of Economy has made a sad kind for inclusion in the budget of the vacancies. The number today DGSE of 4500-5000, of whom 1,000 are administrative staff. The problem is not a number, and how to use frames in their quality. The same applies to DGSI. I add that there are 80,000 people Gendarmerie, which at one time stood on every corner and talked to everyone. They retrain as tax collectors and grandparents Morozov on the side of the road, rather than to create a special body, the traffic police. Therefore, the operational work of counterintelligence and protection of the country weakened.

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 23 Nov 2015 07:28

UlanBatori wrote:There is enough hate/distrust between France and Belgium (and Holland and Belgium) to make something like that very costly, hain? Surely L'Inspecteur Clouseau and Claude Lebel would eventually figure it out?

What does "hate/distrust" mean? Sorry, this is no different from Pakis or Westerners equating communal violence in India with the Jihadi situation in NaPak.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Nov 2015 07:41

imo scandinavia, denmark, UK, poland, spain a few east european munnas have no foreign policy and take the template from D.C.
this is the lot that jumps up and down to get into any 'coalition of the willing' . for some its their card to get financial aid, for others to maintain relationships. model NATO members. mostly they loathe the russia due to history of occupation or because it gets them into good books of hawks in D.C.

then italy and france are tight and run their own tag-team game. united by history and staunch catholicism. I dont think they are averse to a better relationship with russia. they are the only euros to get involved in defence matters with russia like superjet, yak130, mistral...

I dont know which camp germany falls in. they oscillatte between all corners. there is a certain coldness to UK as they feel UK tries to grab the limelight and 'punch above its weight' vs the far larger german economy.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Nov 2015 07:46

Charles De Gaulle has reached position in eastern Med and is expected to commence strikes from today.

be interesting to see what kind of air corridor the Rus opens for them and where they strike. the "core" ISIS targets are deep within syria and much nearer to jordan and iraq.

allegedly the harry S truman carrier was expected to linger in eastern med for a few days or weeks before heading to persian gulf to 'help' the CDG with its strikes.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 08:06

UlanBatori wrote:I mean, was this a desperado scheme to take over Syria, that went horribly wrong,

That is exactly correct and has been confirmed by none other than McCain. Must check that link

They assumed that Russia will not venture to protect Syria. Oh..just to be sure and safe, let's create a crisis in its backyard which will get its hands full and it will be a walkover in Syria just like it was in Iraq, Libya, and Syria till that pt.

There was no plan B once Russia started its act on Sept 30...not for nothing the entire debate in US is about 'strategy' or lack thereof.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 09:23

UlanBatori wrote:And how does the refugee/security crisis impact Dera Merkel Khan I wonder. Surely it is not doing their economy any favors either.

I believe it WILL do favors to their economy in terms of some compensation and/or adjustment from US perspective.

However, an interesting article from NYT on paralles between Syrian and Jewish immigrants:

Comparing Jewish Refugees of the 1930s With Syrians Today - Nov 19,2015

It’s true that Americans in 1939 were worried about refugees taking jobs. Those who lived through the Depression were overwhelmingly supportive of restricting immigration, Mr. Shulman said.

But safety was also a concern. Jews were associated with a variety of acts and ideas that were seen as un-American, Mr. Shulman said, including Communism and violence.

That caused Jewish refugees to be “extraordinarily, excruciatingly vetted,” said Marion Kaplan, a professor in the Department of Hebrew and Judaic Studies at New York University.

“The State Department worried that among the Jewish refugees there would be Nazi spies,” she said. “There was hysteria about fifth columnists coming in with the refugees.”

One area where the two refugee groups do not neatly match, Ms. Kaplan said, is the racial animus they faced both home and abroad. Unlike modern Syrians, Jews in the 1930s “were singled out as the racial enemy, par excellence, in German society,” she said.

And the United States was not entirely welcoming. On top of wanting to preserve jobs, Americans were concerned about Jews “weakening the Nordic or Anglo racial stock,” Mr. Shulman said. “That was a very real concern.”

He added: “You can’t just reduce it to economics or politics. That sort of racial identity was very powerful.”

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 09:33

Seriously WTF!!!!

Satya_anveshi wrote:From piskolocy perspective I am wondering if 'Brussels on high alert' is diverting the rage surrounding Paris attack (who gives a fk about other acts anyway) and may even put a pause on spontaneous over reaction even if that over reaction (sometimes) is good.

If Belgium as state is hand in glove with paris attack terrorists, then it is pretending to be a victim, an art perfected by pakistan.

Warning against overreaction to Islamic State, Obama says the US will 'not succumb to fear' - Nov 22, 2015 (this one just got published)

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 23 Nov 2015 09:42

Varoon Shekhar wrote:"No one to project Mali flags anywhere - certainly not NDTV or CNN IBN."

Sorry, don't follow. Is it that Indian TV stations are not even indicating that the attack took place on Mali? They must have mentioned the country verbally, at least one hopes!

Their question might be does my gardener even have a flag? Sorry to be facetious about a murderous event. Promise not to repeat

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 23 Nov 2015 10:31

OT but need to point this out....A crisis for India is brewing in the Madhesi borderlands of Nepal.

Forumites need to pay attention to this SDRE region rather than TFTA Syria/EU. The Kathmandu lutyenites are not showing signs of coming to their senses.

My 2C

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Nov 2015 10:37

This difference did not go unnoticed here on BRF:

http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151 ... lence.html

While Russians have rushed to show sympathy and support for the people of France following the Paris attacks, there was no like rush from the Western public to show sympathy and support for the people of Russia following the Metrojet tragedy.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 23 Nov 2015 12:32

Yes,the US duplicity in human values speaks for itself and the non-sympathy silence deafening.
I've posted elsewhere that the US imagines itself to be "another planet of the Gods,while the rest of the world are pagan aliens"

Paris attack suspect evades Belgian anti-terror raids
• Sixteen arrests in multiple operations across country, but Salah Abdeslam 'escapes in BMW towards Germany'

More blah,blah from CaMoron.While CaMoron talks,talks and talks,threatening ISIS with devastation,he hasn't dropped a single bomb on Syria,! Just compare his contribution to the war against ISIS and that of Russia. France will start its attacks from Monday,but CaMoron can only do so "before Christmas!"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/#source=refresh

David Cameron exclusive column:
We will defeat terrorism, and the poisonous ideology that fuels it
David Cameron and Francois Hollande outside the Bataclan Cafe in Paris

The Prime Minister, pictured here with Francois Hollande outside the Bataclan, says Britain is putting its money where its mouth is to fund strong security and global efforts to boost democracy

British Prime Minister David Cameron (2nd R) talks to British soldiers during a visit to Forward Operating Base Price on December 20, 2012 in Helmand Province, Afghanistan
UK to form 5,000-strong 'strike brigades' to take the fight to terrorists

PM will spend £178bn on military equipment over the next decade

Revealed: The military strategy that aims to destroy Islamic State
Britain set to join air strikes against Isil in Syria before Christmas
Anti-terror plan for thousands of troops on Britain's streets

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Nov 2015 17:16

aditya wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:There is enough hate/distrust between France and Belgium (and Holland and Belgium) to make something like that very costly, hain? Surely L'Inspecteur Clouseau and Claude Lebel would eventually figure it out?
What does "hate/distrust" mean? Sorry, this is no different from Pakis or Westerners equating communal violence in India with the Jihadi situation in NaPak.

Of course!

The Europeans should resolve their fraternal squabbles through Bilateral Dialogue (not Trialogue) in Non-Violent Track II measures.

Editor's Note: France and Germany have fought 5 wars in the past 3 centuries. France, Germany and Belgium have fought at least 7 wars. And France, Germany, Belgium and Holland have fought 9 wars.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 23 Nov 2015 18:29

Belgians are doing good job. Lot of forces on streets. Specially looking for peelivers. Peace lovers are not protesting. no comment or protest of any kind. I saw some posters "je suis Molenbeekois".......I am from Molenbeek.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 23 Nov 2015 18:57

Satya_anveshi wrote:French terrorism thriller Made in France, which was about to be released on the day of the attacks, delayed after Paris attacks

THE striking posters plastered across metro stations and buses in Paris this week were always provocative, but after Friday’s attacks, they appear in the worst possible taste.

They show an AK-47 assault rifle superimposed over the Eiffel Tower alongside the tagline: “The threat comes from inside.” The confronting image is the centrepiece of a promotional poster for Made in France, a thriller about terrorism that was supposed to open in French cinemas next Wednesday.

The artwork had already raised eyebrows, and after violence tore through the city, distributor Pretty Pictures and producer Radar Films announced the film’s release would be postponed. It is the second time the movie has been delayed this year, after its original release coincided with the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks in January.

It includes harrowing scenes that are painfully close to reality, including one where Muslim terrorists shoot at French police and storylines about homegrown extremists being radicalised.
WTF???

Similar to the case of Colorado shooting on the eve of release of the movie "The Dark Night Rises"

The al-ciada operative in the film Bourne ultimatum is code named as "Daesh" based out of Tangiers.The movie was released in 2007 far before the advent of arab spring or syria or al-nusra or The Daesh(ISIS).

http://bourne.wikia.com/wiki/Film:_Desh_Bouksani
Some times life is a parody of Hollywood .

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Nov 2015 19:00

and he too was a cia contracted 'asset'

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 23 Nov 2015 19:54

UlanBatori wrote:U know... this morning there was a photo on see enn enn of two (Arab-looking) youths being dragged away by a bunch of armed Belgians - handcuffed behind, and each had his neck bent 90 degrees to the side because his hair was in the hands of a goon. Obvious hyoomain rites violation - and the pic has totally disappeared. Can u pls find and post?

You mean this bichar?

If yes, then this is not belgium but equally green and pissfull turkey..

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 23 Nov 2015 20:33

Satya_anveshi wrote:This difference did not go unnoticed here on BRF:

http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151 ... lence.html

While Russians have rushed to show sympathy and support for the people of France following the Paris attacks, there was no like rush from the Western public to show sympathy and support for the people of Russia following the Metrojet tragedy.

Its the same thing on DDM too. The relentless coverage of Paris attacks, and the concerns for the Paris victims, round the clock coverage will make Parisians blush in embarrassment. I doubt even a single Parisian except probably diplomats and govt officials and military would have heard of or care 2 hoots for 26/11, the victims, and TSP role in it.

member_29190 · Post by **member_29190** » 23 Nov 2015 21:36

Wonder how many capitals had Russian flags lights for the 200+ killed in Metrojet, by the same group who carried out Paris attack.

No "Je suis Russia" nor "Pray for Russia" !

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2015 01:14

sudhan wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:U know... this morning there was a photo on see enn enn of two (Arab-looking) youths being dragged away by a bunch of armed Belgians - handcuffed behind, and each had his neck bent 90 degrees to the side because his hair was in the hands of a goon. Obvious hyoomain rites violation - and the pic has totally disappeared. Can u pls find and post?
You mean this bichar?

If yes, then this is not belgium but equally green and pissfull turkey..

Thanks. May yuwar goats fa*t more forcefully than camels!

If it is Turkey, then those poor guys are probably Kurds, nothing to do with Paris. The thug in the dark glasses is clearly ISIS.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Nov 2015 02:17

prahaar wrote:In a globalized world, terror strike hits the unlikeliest people in the unlikeliest of places. We received news about a distant relation who died in the Mali hostage crisis. It is a reminder that terror does not discriminate based on national boundaries or gender or anything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an ... story.html

I hope the world realizes that this form of violence should be declared as war and not some grievance expression mechanism. Modiji's statement today that India is not constrained by the boundaries but it lives around in the world in hearts of people seemed more true today.

prahaar, My condolences to your extended family.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2015 03:23

Le Tub Floating de Bains (bathtub) Full de'Vin Avec les Avions de Guerre, has launched airstrikes in Eyerak.

But the buggers are arguing for a CEASEFIRE in Syria. With 80% of the country occupied by ISIS and its followers!!!

France bombed IS targets in Iraq on Monday in the first sorties from the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, newly deployed in the eastern Mediterranean.

"We carried out strikes in Ramadi and Mosul in support of ground forces that were pushing against troops of (the Islamic State group)," said army chief of staff General Pierre de Villiers, aboard the carrier.

A week of frantic international diplomacy was under way, with Hollande set to meet all five permanent members of the UN Security Council and the United States trying to rally support for a ceasefire in Syria

{Brought 2 U By the same Ppl hu brought the Ceasefire in Kashmir in 1948}

WHOM does a CEASEFIRE in Syria benefit at this stage when they are getting clobbered by Russia? Is ISIS going to stop raping and whipping and murdering the people? Who is gonna negotiate with/ on behalf of ISIS (oh sorry! duh! BO of course!)

I HOPE Putin is not THAT stupid.

BRFees? What eej le Rationale de Frogistan 4 a CEASEFIRE? Are they looking for someone to surrender to, AGAIN?

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 24 Nov 2015 04:50

Is Washington Trying to Play France’s Hollande Like a Pawn Against Moscow? - Nov 24, 2015

This newfound camaraderie between Paris and Moscow, however, doesn’t exactly thrill Washington. According to officials within the Obama administration, the White House may be using Hollande’s Tuesday visit to pressure the French president into supporting renewed anti-Russian sanction.

Evelyn Farkas, the Pentagon’s former "expert" on Russia, told Politico that a premature end to sanctions "is always our worry." Others, speaking anonymously, have also confirmed the Obama administration’s fears of Russo-European cooperation.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2015 04:58

Le Haute Couture Tres Elegante de Lahore found in Bin Paris

Suicide belt found in bin in Paris: Did terror suspect on the run get cold feet and ditch explosives?
Found in southern Paris suburb of Montrouge, where fugitive suspect Salah Abdeslam's mobile phone was geolocalised the night of the attacks
The belt contained metal bolts and TATP, the same explosive found on the other 7 attackers
Belt was found on Monday by a street cleaner and examined by French authorities
Supports theory that Abeslam may have abandoned his mission and fled rather than take part in the attacks

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2015 05:02

22:33
Breaking: US State Department issues rare worldwide travel alert due to terror threats

Statement from the State Department, including advice to all Americans worldwide to "exercise vigilance when in public places".

The State Department alerts U.S. citizens to possible risks of travel due to increased terrorist threats. Current information suggests that ISIL (aka Da’esh), al-Qa’ida, Boko Haram, and other terrorist groups continue to plan terrorist attacks in multiple regions....

Authorities believe the likelihood of terror attacks will continue as members of ISIL/Da’esh return from Syria and Iraq. Additionally, there is a continuing threat from unaffiliated persons planning attacks inspired by major terrorist organizations but conducted on an individual basis. Extremists have targeted large sporting events , theatres, open markets, and aviation services ....

U.S. citizens should exercise vigilance when in public places or using transportation. Be aware of immediate surroundings and avoid large crowds or crowed places. Exercise particular caution during the holiday season and at holiday festivals or events..