Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Jan 24, 2016

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 May 2016 15:22

Pakistan’s application to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), which it formally submitted last week in Vienna, has been acknowledged by the US and will come under consideration in the next month’s meeting of 48 members group in Seoul. India has already applied for the membership and has a favorable stance from the US and other members of the group. A statement issued by Islamabad read, “The decision to seek participation in the export control regime reflects Pakistan’s strong support for international efforts to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and their means of delivery.” While Pakistani authorities might be sincere in joining the group, which aims to curb the spread of the nuclear weapons; terrorism and the presence of non-state actors including some of the high-profile terrorists in the country do not bide well with the country’s image in the international sphere. The group will consider the application for induction into the group in next meeting, and Pakistan’s selection hinges upon a consensus among the member states.

While it is ironical that the NSG was formed as a result of Indian nuclear tests in 1974, the favorable stance from the US and other members shows that how far India has come in the nuclear safety paradigm. Furthermore, it might help India get recognition as a nuclear power. Pakistan, on the other hand, continues to see a self-imposed existential threat in India, which has led to exorbitant defense spending, leaving country’s economy in doldrums. Pakistan has latched on to the opposition by a US Senator against India’s entry into the NSG, who claimed that this would infuriate Pakistan into a never-ending arms race. Pakistan has maintained that it wants to avoid such a situation and has presented it as the primary reason for its application to the NSG. But the stance from the State Department appears to favor India who has refuted the claims and stated that it’s not about an arms race and nuclear weapons. It is about the peaceful civil use of nuclear energy, and Pakistan should understand that.

It’s about time Pakistan learns that uselessness of continuous spending on the nuclear arms race. Nuclear Arms race has further harmed the country as it led to economic sanctions from the international community, severely impacting its economic growth. Furthermore, Pakistan’s continuous support to the non-state actors in its neighboring countries has not helped its cause in international arena either. Instead, it should focus on other aspects including its economy, higher education, climate change, etc. The country is in desperate need of spending on its economy and social sectors instead of the white elephant in the form of a nuclear arsenal. While the economic situation in India is not rosy either, it does have enough resources to spend on its arsenal. India’s condition of economic as well as other social sectors is significantly better than that of Pakistan. Recently, in QS higher-education rankings, India scored 24 points higher than that of Pakistan who came in last among the 50 countries surveyed. Pakistan needs to focus on health, education, climate change, and other economic issues rather than mindlessly spending on the procurement of weapons.*

Sometimes, they can see the truth also.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 May 2016 15:44

Add Pakistan to list of terrorist states, MPs urge United Nations

May 29, 2016 - 16:10

KABUL (Pajhwok): While calling for sanctions against Pakistan, the Meshrano Jirga on Sunday asked the United Nations (UN) to add the country to the list of terrorist sates.
Senator Maulvi Mohiuddin Munsif said: “The killing of Taliban leader Mullah Mansour and a funeral ceremony for him held in Pakistan show it is the main cause of problems in Afghanistan. It is questionable why the UN doesn’t impose sanctions on Pakistan.”
He said the neighbor country must be added to the list of terrorist countries as its real face exposed to all people in the world.
At a meeting on Saturday, Council of Protection and Stability of Afghanistan head Abdur Rab Rassoul Sayyaf said Pakistan should stop interfering in Afghanistan.
“I want to tell Pakistan you are now exposed to the entire world. If you don’t stop sponsoring the scourge,you would be added to the list of terrorist sates,” Sayyaf had said.
Another senator, Mohammad Hassan Hotak, supported Sayyaf’s statement and said: “Pakistan is the main cause of death and destruction in Afghanistan. The country should be added to the list of terrorists.”
Gulalai Akbari, another member, also asked the administrative board of the upper house to order the government to cooperate with strategic allies of Afghanistan and add Pakistan to the UN’s blacklist.

A number of other senators stressed on peace and stability in Afghanistan and agreed with other colleagues in adding Pakistan to black list.
Farhad Sakhi, the first deputy chairman who chaired the session, also supported Sayyaf’s views. He called peace the only and just demand of all Afghans.
He asked the international community to be honest in cooperating with Afghanistan on the issue of restoring stability.mds

So, according to this report, all Afghans are united in their anger against Pakistan's interference in their internal affairs !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 May 2016 15:46

Indian PM Modi to inaugurate Salma dam in Afghanistan on June 4

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 May 2016 15:48

Pakistan may run dry by 2025: study

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 May 2016 15:52

Strategic Liabilities - Blog, Dawn

It is true that Pakistan is, as always, at a critical juncture. It is also true that we are victims of geography. It is also true that to tackle these huge challenges we need a holistic and comprehensive proactive foreign policy which requires lockstep coordination between the civilian and military leadership.

It is also true that no such coordination exists, as evidenced by the Angoor Adda fiasco. Here the military handed over a border crossing facility to Afghanistan in order to “strengthen brotherly relations”. Now there’s nothing wrong with that, except that the interior minister was apparently unaware of this. And it didn’t do much for brotherly relations either, as the Afghans promptly closed the said facility and demanded 10km more territory. Consider then, the utter lack of communication, coordination and imagination and despair.

Angoor Adda has always been a fiasco for the Pakistani Army. The handing over of the border check post to the Afghans was a decision taken by the PA without the knowledge of the civilian government. So much for the sovereignty shouts and democracy in Pakistan.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 May 2016 16:02

Military leadership was unaware of US drone strike, says Fatemi

KARACHI: Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fatemi said Pakistani military leadership was 'unaware' of the United States (US) drone attack in Balochistan which killed Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour, but also rejected the possibility of an intelligence failure in this regard.
“Pakistan does not have the technological means to detect drones,” (Is he "allowed" to admit this by the military ?) Dthe special assistant argued in an interview with DawnNews on Friday.
"There are certain domestic and international elements involved,” he claimed, “But some matters cannot be disclosed.”

“Pakistan may protest against drone strikes, but cannot strike back decisively... Such attacks will never be permitted in Pakistan," he said.Fatemi was of the opinion that US drone policy would adversely affect the western power in addition to negatively affecting the region where they are carried out.

When asked why aid is sought from the US despite its violations of Pakistan's territorial sovereignty, Fatemi replied: “Ideally, it is our goal to not seek any aid from them, but Pakistan’s economic conditions make it so. We do not actively seek aid from anyone.”

IMO, beggars can't be choosers.

His job is clean the "mess" created by the military by issuing inane statements !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 May 2016 19:37

The National Psyche Of Pakistan - Lt. Gen (Ret)Syed Ata Hasnain

I sometimes wonder what it must be like to be a citizen of Pakistan. I often meet the elite Pakistani citizenry which paints a picture that all is well at home. Sipping mojitos, they speak of Clifton in Karachi and high-end shopping; money seems to be oozing out of their pockets. Yet, facts give it all away.

I remember the time when the role and image were the opposite. Pakistanis visiting India in the Sixties brought along various foreign goods and a unique water pumper called Rahber. They were immensely proud of their quality of life and looked down upon us Indians in socialist India.

Tables have turned; emphasis on education and self reliance and neutrality in foreign relations is paying dividends now!

An Indian enjoys high international reputation. Worldwide, people speak of India’s century along with that of China.

A Pakistani citizen may have to wait nine months or more for a visa to visit Hong Kong( and Hongkong is "owned" by taller than mountain fliends !)because being Pakistani is synonymous with being reasonably undesirable and alien to civilized society.

The Pakistani citizens need to know and so does the rest of the less-informed world that the tenuous hold that Islamic radicalism has over the world today can be squarely placed at the altar of Zia and his advisers of the ISI and the Army.

It is now almost impossible to do even a 90 degree turn (ie become a bit moderate!)

The common citizen is under fire from different directions; the radicals and the clergy along with the Army all combine to make life hellish. There is a vibrant media which feels intimidated; remember the Hamid Mir case.(remains unsolved; and this Islamist has also "toned" down his open criticism of the fauj) The ubiquitous face of the Pakistan Army is everywhere. It seems it never lost power ever.

What never ceases to amaze is how an institution such as the Pakistan Army has been allowed to prosper and hijack much of the world’s agenda for peace. There are three stakeholders in this.

The first are the people of Pakistan whose self-esteem has taken a nosedive...

Second is the international community; different segments have different interests. For instance China is least concerned about the wellbeing of the Pakistani people;(the new mai-baap of Pakiland !)

The US perhaps is the one single entity most responsible for bolstering the confidence of the Generals in Pakistan. The long standing relationship going back to the CENTO/SEATO days has been an enduring one, not the least because of the US realization that Pakistan occupies the world’s most crucial strategic space.

The rationality of a friendly India, a quiet and peaceful neighborhood and cooperation to take the teeming millions in the subcontinent to a better destiny, never seems to appeal to the Pakistan military leadership as an element of Pakistan’s national interest.

Their very existence is predicated on a "forever" enmity with India and an obsession for an ==

Through my years as a senior Indian Army officer I always made it a habit to ask my officers to do an annual review of Pakistan. The subject was always ‘The Psyche and Mindset of the Pakistan Army’. The deductions I received from the studies then continue to be the same today. Will they ever change? Only Allah and Pakistan’s Generals know.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 30 May 2016 23:50

Mother China: A 'Chinese revolution' sweeps across Pakistan
Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 03:59

"ISI Journalist " Downplays Nawaz Sharif's Illness

Is PM Nawaz in London for a open heart surgery or a minor operation? Journalist makes a shocking claim

ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Senior journalist and anchorperson Ahmed Quresh (and friend of Lal Topi) has accused the government of exaggerating Prime Minister Mian Nawaz Sharif’s health issues and claimed that the premier is not undergoing open heart surgery in London and will only have a minor operation conducted.
Speaking on Neo TV Qureshi said that he had talked to a doctor living in the United States who said that “this is Atrial Fibrillation Ablation, which is not open heart surgery.”
The doctor also told him it was only a 45-minute procedure, requiring an hour of preparation time and only two days of pre-operation observation.
Maryam Nawaz, the premier’s daughter, was exaggerating the seriousness of the illness of the Prime Minister, Qureshi added.

This so-called journalist is known for his pro-army point of view !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 04:03

Gas pipeline blown up in Dera Bugti

DERA BUGTI (Web Desk) – Unknown miscreant blew up a 13-inch diameter gas pipeline in Dera Bugti on Monday.
According to reports, unidentified miscreants (the same word was used to describe the Mukti Bahni in the previous East Pakistan !)had planted explosives along the gas supply line and later blew it up through a remote controlled device.
The gas supply to surrounding areas was immediately suspended after the explosion.
The gas pipeline was severely damaged. Teams have been dispatched to the area to rehabilitee the damaged gas pipeline, officials said.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 04:19

PM Nawaz telephones Modi

NEW DELHI: Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Monday received a phone call from his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif, a day before latter’s open heart surgery in London.
Vikas Swarup, a spokesman for India’s External Affairs ministry, said on twitter that Mr Modi received phone call from Nawaz Sharif just before Pakistani prime minister is wheeled in for surgery.
He said the Indian prime minister wished Nawaz Sharif a speedy recovery.

Nawaz Shairf attended oath taking ceremony of Narendra Modi in 2014 to become the first Pakistani prime minister to attend inaugural ceremony of an Indian leader.
Modi paid a surprise visit to Pakistan and briefly attended wedding ceremony of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s granddaughter last year.
Relations between the two neighboring countries became strained after Pakistani security forces arrested an Indian spy who confessed to orchestrating various acts of terrorism earlier this year.

Possible asylum in India, post surgery? Requested Modi-ji to pray for him ?
There were other press reports that suggested that Ganja's family is exaggerating his illness, so the surgery cannot be serious !

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 04:23

Two Pakistani women held on charges of links with Daesh

JALALABAD: Two Pakistani women were arrested on charges of links with Daesh in Nangarhar province, officials said on Monday. Nangarhar Governor’s spokesman Attaullah Khugiyani told Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) that these women were arrested in Andarabi area in Kot district. “The police recovered documents linking to Daesh from their vehicle. These women wanted to supply five books to Daesh. The books contained material about preparation of improvised explosive devices and other weapons,” he said. Their driver was also arrested, he said, adding that the matter is currently under investigation.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 31 May 2016 05:53

Falijee wrote:"ISI Journalist " Downplays Nawaz Sharif's Illness
Is PM Nawaz in London for a open heart surgery or a minor operation? Journalist makes a shocking claim
ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Senior journalist and anchorperson Ahmed Quresh (and friend of Lal Topi) has accused the government of exaggerating Prime Minister Mian Nawaz Sharif’s health issues and claimed that the premier is not undergoing open heart surgery in London and will only have a minor operation conducted.
Speaking on Neo TV Qureshi said that he had talked to a doctor living in the United States who said that “this is Atrial Fibrillation Ablation, which is not open heart surgery.”
The doctor also told him it was only a 45-minute procedure, requiring an hour of preparation time and only two days of pre-operation observation.
Maryam Nawaz, the premier’s daughter, was exaggerating the seriousness of the illness of the Prime Minister, Qureshi added.
This so-called journalist is known for his pro-army point of view !

My understanding is than an open heart surgery typically takes a few hours and not 45 min. I feel this is Ganja doing drama a la Mushy to deflect attention from the Panama leaks. Taqqiya onlee. This 'operation' will be in the news for a few days till the next 'breaking news' takes over the talking heads on Baki TV.

member_29413 · Post by **member_29413** » 31 May 2016 06:28

Nuclear-armed Pakistan can 'target' Delhi in 5 minutes: ..

By 2025, PA will be able to siphon off all water from Delhi/NY in under 5 minutes and use it to grow grass for the development of newClear bum v2.0 propelled by water car tech; while India will just watch?

vina · Post by **vina** » 31 May 2016 06:52

Ganja goes to Londonistan to get a Large Open Heart, while Modi goes all around the world and comes back with a Small Closed Heart

!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 May 2016 09:49

Salma Agha to get OCI card - ToI

The Union home ministry has decided to issue Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) card to Pakistani-origin Bollywood actress and singer Salma Agha, which will entitle her to multiple-entry, life-long visa to visit India for any purpose.

The yesteryear actor and singer is the second Pakistani artiste to seek a means to residence. In January Pakistani singer Adnan Sami was given Indian citizenship under the citizen by naturalisation category. He had been residing in India for the past few years.

Agha, a British citizen and grand-daughter of old time actor Jugal Kishore Mehra and actress Anwari Begum, had recently written to the home ministry seeking OCI by citing her Indian roots and clarifying that she has never held Pakistani citizenship.

What does India gain by doling out such favours to Pakistani-origin persons? I am disturbed by the unnecessary generosity of GoI.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 31 May 2016 10:11

Fauji Cement plant suffers damage, billions may be lost

KARACHI: In an unfortunate incident, one of Fauji Cement’s plants has been damaged extensively that is likely to cause a loss of billions of rupees to the company, according to a company notice sent to the Pakistan Stock Exchange on Monday.

“The raw meal silo structure that contains about 25,000 tons of raw material collapsed (on Sunday) and it also damaged the coal mill area of (production) line-2,” said the notice.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 31 May 2016 10:11

SSridhar wrote:
clarifying that she has never held Pakistani citizenship.[/b]
What does India gain by doling out such favours to Pakistani-origin persons? I am disturbed by the unnecessary generosity of GoI.

What about her parents? They must have been Pakistani citizens, doesn't that bar her from OCI? Who the heck is taking these decisions?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 May 2016 10:15

‘Trade route linking Chabahar Port with Afghanistan a security threat’
http://www.dawn.com/news/1261792/trade- ... ity-threat
( As we know, Pakjabi fear strategic autonomy of Pushtun, Afghanistan and Freedom of Balochistan Via Sistan)

SLAMABAD: Two former defence secretaries insist the trade route which is being established by Iran, India and Afghanistan, linking Chabahar Port with Afghanistan, is a security threat.The comments made by the former defence secretaries just a week after the agreement for the trade route was signed by Iranian, Afghan and Indian leaders, is a reflection of the opinion held in military circles, which have been deeply suspicious of the port and the trade route.Speaking on the first day of a three-day workshop on Monday which was hosted by a local think tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI) on ‘National Security, Deterrence and Regional Stability in South Asia’, former defence secretary retired Lt-Gen Asif Yasin Malik said: “The alliance between India, Afghanistan and Iran is a security threat to Pakistan” and added that he feared that Pakistan is going into isolation.“In view of the regional and global environment, I see Pakistan falling into an abyss of isolation primarily because of its own mistakes and partly due to the hostile policies of other states,” he said.He blamed the situation on the “dysfunctional Foreign Office” and the absence of a full time foreign minister.Iran has tried to dispel concerns about its cooperation with India and Afghanistan with its envoy in Islamabad, Mehdi Honardoost last week saying that Pakistan and China should join in on the Chabahar agreement. He had then stressed that the Gwadar and Chabahar ports should not be seen as rivals.

Pakistan’s Foreign Office also views the Chabahar port positively with Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz saying at a press conference on Thursday that Pakistan did not see Iran’s Chabahar port as a rival and that Pakistan was in fact exploring the possibility of developing links with Gwadar.Nevertheless, the concerns among the military persist as mirrored by the former defence secretaries.At the event on Monday, retired Lt-Gen Nadeem Lodhi said the existence of such a “formidable bloc” in the neighbourhood had “ominous and far reaching implications” for Pakistan.He feared the three-nation bloc will affect Pakistan’s plans for regional economic integration, restoration of internal peace and maintenance of peaceful borders. It will also affect CPEC timelines, he added.“We need to break out of this encircling move with help from friends... diplomatic manoeuvres and by forging a strong deterrence,” he said, adding that of the three countries, Iran is most likely to pay heed to Pakistani concerns.He suggested Pakistan use China’s influence for fixing problems. “Iran must not be further alienated and its interests in CPEC should be developed,” Mr Lodhi said.He said that the defence and strategic relationship with China should be formalised instead of an unwritten understanding.Other speakers also deliberated on national security and asked the government to broaden its conception of challenges and risks and to respond to them proactively.Air University Registrar Ghulam Mujadid said that the eminence of security in national priorities is reflected in the four military take-overs in the country and the “ascendancy of military in political, internal and foreign policy decision making”.“Pakistan needs to correct this strategic myopia. A survivalist mindset about national security dominates the political discourse and continues to be the central pillar in Pakistan’s strategic calculations,” he said.Such a security focused state, he observed, allocates more resources for defence at the cost of social welfare and human security.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 31 May 2016 11:08

Peregrine wrote:

Mother China: A 'Chinese revolution' sweeps across Pakistan
Cheers

Makes for a very good read. Thanks for posting. Chinese are selling CPEC dream of hosting manufacturing industries in Pukistan and asking for additional concessions. In the short term, Chinese will kill any manufacturing left in Pukistan and in the long term, will own all manufacturing and trade in Pukiland. I don't think Pakis have any serious alternative. Every day one discovers that Pukistan is doomed for yet another reason! My God!

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 31 May 2016 11:13

Not sure how much to go by this as I am not yet seeing it reported in Paki news papers. Censorship or Indian media reading too much?

JuD terrorist leader Hafiz Saeed wants to bell the China cat on its Islam policy.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 512273.cms

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 14:28

PEMRA Does A 360 Turn on condom ads issue Following Erdogan Anti-Population Planning And Anti Birth Control Speech

STANBUL (Staff Report) – Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority’s (PEMRA) move to ban all type of condom advertisements on TV received immense criticism from social activists, however Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan seems to be in complete agreement with this.
In a recent speech broadcast on TV, Erdogan urged all pious Muslims to have more children, saying that nobody can interfere in God’s work.
“No Muslim family should get involved in birth control measures or family planning,” he said, while condemning those following this approach.
He went on to say that we are meant to multiply our descendants, some people talk about population planning and birth control but no Muslim family should adopt such an approach.
The first duty to have more children lies on mothers, he said.

So, in the future, the Paki authorities are going to "take orders" on social issues from the "New Caliph Of Sunnis-stan" (and not from the local Mullah Brigade !)

Giving the reason, Pemra said the authority had been receiving complaints from people against ads about birth control products, and there were serious concerns among the public in this regard.
The order was, however, withdrawn on next day, citing reservations of social society. the TV channels were, meanwhile, advised to deal with such content carefully.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 14:35

Immy And Qadri- The Shopping Mall Mullah - Still Being Hounded By Ganja Sharif?

Non-bailable arrest warrants issued for Imran, Qadri

SLAMABAD (Web Desk) – An anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Tuesday issued non-bailable arrest warrants for Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan and Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) chief Tahir-ul-Qadri.
According to details, both the leaders remained absent during proceedings of the Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) Ismat Ullah Junejo torture case registered in 2014 during anti-government sit-ins in capital organized jointly by PTI and PAT.
The arrest warrants were issued by the Anti-Terrorism Court judge Sohail Ikram, who ordered DSP Idrees Rathore to apprehend the accused at the earliest.
Earlier in 2014, SSP Ismat had sustained injuries when a mob participating in demonstrations beat him up during the D-chowk sit-ins organized by PTI and PAT.

Now with the end of the "severe Canadian winter", doubt that the "shopping mall mullah" is in town to receive the arrest warrant ! most likely he will be preaching his sermons from the safe havens of Toronto Shopping Malls

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 May 2016 15:23

Peregrine wrote:

Mother China: A 'Chinese revolution' sweeps across Pakistan
Cheers

schinnas wrote:Makes for a very good read. Thanks for posting. Chinese are selling CPEC dream of hosting manufacturing industries in Pukistan and asking for additional concessions. In the short term, Chinese will kill any manufacturing left in Pukistan and in the long term, will own all manufacturing and trade in Pukiland. I don't think Pakis have any serious alternative. Every day one discovers that Pukistan is doomed for yet another reason! My Thank You God!

schinnas Ji :

There, Sir! Corrected!
Cheers

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 May 2016 15:31

schinnas wrote:Not sure how much to go by this as I am not yet seeing it reported in Paki news papers. Censorship or Indian media reading too much?

JuD terrorist leader Hafiz Saeed wants to bell the China cat on its Islam policy.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 512273.cms

schinnas Ji :

From the above Article:

They made it clear that Halal products will remain banned in China as these "promote religious segregation".

I've got news for you : Ninety Per Cent of the Meat in India is "HALAL"
Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 15:35

‘Trade route linking Chabahar Port with Afghanistan a security threat’

ISLAMABAD: Two former defence secretaries insist the trade route which is being established by Iran, India and Afghanistan, linking Chabahar Port with Afghanistan, is a security threat.
The comments made by the former defence secretaries just a week after the agreement for the trade route was signed by Iranian, Afghan and Indian leaders, is a reflection of the opinion held in military circles, which have been deeply suspicious of the port and the trade route.

Speaking on the first day of a three-day workshop on Monday which was hosted by a local think tank, Strategic Vision Institute (SVI) on ‘National Security, Deterrence and Regional Stability in South Asia’, former defence secretary retired Lt-Gen Asif Yasin Malik said: “The alliance between India, Afghanistan and Iran is a security threat to Pakistan” and added that he feared that Pakistan is going into isolation.

IMO, the world is isolating Pakistan,(treating it like a pariah state ) not the other way around !

He blamed the situation on the “dysfunctional Foreign Office” and the absence of a full time foreign minister.

Why appoint a full time FM, when the Paki Fauj is already doing the "foreign ministri-ing

Pakistan’s Foreign Office also views the Chabahar port positively with Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz saying at a press conference on Thursday that Pakistan did not see Iran’s Chabahar port as a rival and that Pakistan was in fact exploring the possibility of developing links with Gwadar.

So, the senile SA, has different views on this than his counterparts in the Paki Fauj !

Nevertheless, the concerns among the military persist as mirrored by the former defence secretaries.

And what do the Chini-blothers think of all this, as they are funding the Paki project !

He suggested Pakistan use China’s influence for fixing problems. “Iran must not be further alienated and its interests in CPEC should be developed,” Mr Lodhi said.
He said that the defence and strategic relationship with China should be formalised instead of an unwritten understanding.

Paki foreign policy being out-sourced to China?

Mr Mujadid noted that “decisions on security issues remain ad-hoc and disconnected; formulated and implemented in separate silos, hence policies are reactive instead of being consistent and coherent”.

In Pakistan all policies are disconnected and made on the fly (eg. the recent controversy about "condom ads" )

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 15:45

Ganja Sharif Will Live !
PM Nawaz's surgery went successful: Pervaiz Rasheed

LONDON: According to federal Information Minister Pervaiz Rasheed, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's open heart surgery was a successful one. "The Prime Minister's surgery went successful," he said.

He also said that doctors were satisfied with the results of the surgery. Rasheed also said that the prayers of the nation had been answered as Nawaz Sharif's surgery had been successful.
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's daughter Maryam Nawaz also took to her Twitter account and disclosed that the surgery was 'progressing fine' and that 'prayers were doing miracles'.

Geo News' correspondent Murtaza Ali Shah stated that he had obtained official confirmation that the surgery was still going on (Premature celebrations ?) and that no complications came through during the surgery.

IMO, a "big deal" has been made of this so-called "open heart surgery" undergone by Ganja ; from all press reports, it appears that his medical condition has been exaggerated to gain public sympathy and /or support and divert attention from the Panama Leak scandal!

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 15:56

Publicity Hungry Journalist Predicts Break-Up Of PML- Nawaz Party !
New PML-N rebel wing will have some Sharif family members: Hamid Mir

LAHORE (Web Desk) – In a startling revelation, renowned journalist Hamid Mir has claimed a new political party will soon emerge from within the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).
The announcement for “Aam Awam Party” will reputedly be made on 27th Ramazan, according to Hamid Mir, while the party office has been set up in Garden Town.
Mir was talking as a guest in an AAJ TV talk show, where he said the ruling party — PML-N — will break down like Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM). However, there is a twist in party’s splinter as it will also involve a few members of Sharif family, Mir claimed.
When asked about the driving forces behind the possible collapse of PML-N, the senior journalist hinted towards “the same people” who gave birth to the MQM dissident group, Pak Sarzameen Party (PSP).

This closet Islamist has been known in the past to make "bombastic announcements" so as to gain the publicity limelight ; maybe, the split in the party might be the work of the Deep State who is not happy with Ganja and his crony style of government !

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 31 May 2016 15:59

Peregrine wrote:
schinnas wrote:Not sure how much to go by this as I am not yet seeing it reported in Paki news papers. Censorship or Indian media reading too much?

JuD terrorist leader Hafiz Saeed wants to bell the China cat on its Islam policy.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 512273.cms
schinnas Ji :

From the above Article:
They made it clear that Halal products will remain banned in China as these "promote religious segregation".
I've got news for you : Ninety Per Cent of the Meat in India is "HALAL"
Cheers

Peregine ji,
I am not surprised at all that China would be interested in curtailing all socially segregating characteristic in Islam. Islam is a religion of do's and dont's more strongly than any other religions - halal and haram are core of its doctrine. If you take them away, the religion withers. However, what I am interested in is why there is no reporting of this in Pakistani media? Hafiz and JuD are protected in UN only because of China. Why would he go against China at this juncture. If China does not stand in the way, India will have Saeed declared a terrorist by UN and he would not be able to publicly roam around in Pukiland.

May be the Harakiri genes that come with being a Puki explain it. Other possibility is that our MSM, for a change, is playing mischief with Pukistan regarding the strong arm tactics of China regarding its muslims and creating a wedge in terms of that fault line in Puki-China partnership.

OT: I dont believe the statistic that 90 percent of meat in India is halal. Most meat in rural India are not halal unless the butcher is a muslim. In many villages there are litterally no muslims as they have their own villages (segregated or ghetto living). Only urban restaurants advertise their products as halal as they get muslim clientele and dont want to lose them.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 16:01

Sushma Swaraj arranges medical seat for Pak girl Mashal in Karnataka

Right decision by the Minister ! In this way, the Paki press can no longer play the" sympathy card " on this issue !

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 May 2016 17:04

schinnas wrote:Not sure how much to go by this as I am not yet seeing it reported in Paki news papers. Censorship or Indian media reading too much?

JuD terrorist leader Hafiz Saeed wants to bell the China cat on its Islam policy.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 512273.cms

schinnas, thanks for the post. That is interesting because it is for the first time I see an Islamist leader of Pakistan challenging China on religious issues in Xinjiang. The Chinese oppression of Muslin Uyghurs in Xinjiang is brutal. China co-opted JuI-F chief Fazl-ur-Rehman and then the late JI chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed to stop murmurs in Pakistan. Of course, the Pakistani Establishment and the politicians can never open their mouth against Chinese brutalities. However much I detest Hafeez Saeed, the truth is he is the only one to talk against the Chinese, if this report is true.

That throws up interesting possibilities too. Does the PA endorse Saeed's views?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 May 2016 17:45

schinnas wrote:OT: I dont believe the statistic that 90 percent of meat in India is halal. Most meat in rural India are not halal unless the butcher is a muslim. In many villages there are litterally no muslims as they have their own villages (segregated or ghetto living). Only urban restaurants advertise their products as halal as they get muslim clientele and dont want to lose them.

schinnas Ji :
I refer you to the following :

Science of meat
Given India's sizeable Muslim population, it's not surprising that most supermarket chains prefer to offer halal meat. Sreejith Mohan, headcategory, Godrej Nature's Basket, says halal is practically standard operating procedure. "Most slaughter houses in India have moved to the halal system, and the meat comes halal-certified." For fast food multinational McDonalds, using halal meat in its products makes practical sense. "We respect cultural and local sensibilities," says Amrita Pai, McDonalds spokesperson for south and west India region.

This is my last post on the subject. Mods are requested to advise if the matter can be discussed on a more suitable Thread.
Cheers

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 31 May 2016 19:48

Refugees arrested in Germany for groping women

No points for guessing where these 'can't keep it in my pants' refugees hail from.. The illustrious line of Groper Gilani..

sudeepj · Post by **sudeepj** » 31 May 2016 20:31

SSridhar wrote:Salma Agha to get OCI card - ToI
The Union home ministry has decided to issue Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) card to Pakistani-origin Bollywood actress and singer Salma Agha, which will entitle her to multiple-entry, life-long visa to visit India for any purpose.

The yesteryear actor and singer is the second Pakistani artiste to seek a means to residence. In January Pakistani singer Adnan Sami was given Indian citizenship under the citizen by naturalisation category. He had been residing in India for the past few years.

Agha, a British citizen and grand-daughter of old time actor Jugal Kishore Mehra and actress Anwari Begum, had recently written to the home ministry seeking OCI by citing her Indian roots and clarifying that she has never held Pakistani citizenship.
What does India gain by doling out such favours to Pakistani-origin persons? I am disturbed by the unnecessary generosity of GoI.

This is short sighted. Allowing prominent Pakistanis to become India citizens is a key psychological victory. People connected to the fauji and jihadi establishment should be kept far, but limited numbers of artists, scientists can be allowed in. The amount of heartburn a Malala living in the US gives to the Paks is spectacular. Pak cricketers, singers, actors defecting to India will give similar levels of heartburn. Of course, they should be tracked and if they show signs of Pakiness, throw them out. Best is to keep them on 5 year Visas, renewable based on good behavior.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 22:17

In Pakistan, It Is Always The " Wrong Guy" Who Is The" Fall Guy"“Uncle, it’s dark over there.”

It was mere coincidence that on October 16, 1951, Saeed Akber sat on the seats reserved for the Special Branch of the police right in front of the stage at Rawalpindi’s Company Garden.
When he had fired two shots at Liaqat Ali Khan, a full-blooded sub inspector Muhammad Shah shot him. Everything happened in broad daylight. Now, to look for a conspiracy behind it all is to create a mountain out of a molehill.

It must also be mere coincidence that in the same gardens, on 27th December, 2007, a few hours after the murder of Benazir Bhutto the murder site was washed clean by the fire brigade, upon the orders of City Police Chief, Saud Aziz. After the clean-up, people cried conspiracy, but since Saud Aziz had acted alone, his sincere apologies were accepted and he was handed a promotion.

Any remaining rumors died out around four years later at Benazir Bhutto’s 5th death anniversary, when the Federal Minister of Information, Qamar Zaman Kaira said that the real murderer named Baitullah Masood had been killed in a drone attack and the remaining five were in Adyala jail.

Now you might ask what happened to the Scotland Yard color=#0000FF]( And Scotland Yard has refused to be "used" to "manufacture evidence " to convict Altaf Bhai )[/color] by and UN reports? Why is the trial still going on and why is the Court insisting that Pervaiz Musharraf be presented before it in person? Questions like these can never can never help the nation.

The father of the atom bomb, Dr. Qadeer, admitted that he had smuggled nuclear secrets and materials out of the country unaided, adding that he confessed on the advice of Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and Mushahid Hussain. He also said that he provided nuclear technology to North Korea and Iran on Benazir Bhutto’s orders.

End of story; case closed !

On 16th March, 2011, Raymond Davis killed two locals in Lahore. There was huge uproar about justice wherever one looked. With extreme reluctance, the victims’ heirs agreed to receiving Rs. 200 million in blood money. While the case was being heard, 18 heirs of the victims showed up personally to affirm their act of forgiveness. And Raymond Davis went free.

Pakis wanted Sharia, Pakis got Sharia

On 2nd May 2011, Americans took the dead body of Osama bin Laden back with them. The most important question that rose from that incident was which enemies of the nation had supported them. The enemies were soon identified. One was Shakeel Afridi, who had started a fake vaccination campaign. The other was Arshad Khan, who had built a mansion without anyone noticing and had housed Osama and his family there for several years.

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he third was Shakeel Rafique, who had taken part in the construction of the house as a junior contractor. The fourth was an ordinary Police official who was taken into custody by intelligence agencies within a few hours and never seen again. The fifth was 84-year old Zain Baba, and the sixth was his son Shamrez Khan, who used to guard the ghost mansion at night.9 months later this ghost mansion was also wiped out. Even today, after five years, Zain Baba, Shamrez Khan, and Contractor Shakeel Rafique are under the stern watch of the intelligence agencies, while Shakeel Afridi is likely to spend the rest of his life in jail. Any other confusion?

"Enemies" were identified and put in jail; what more do the Aam Abduls wanted ; case closed ; Deep State protected.

How was Wali Muhammad alias Mullah Akhter Mansoor successful in obtaining an identity card and passport? This riddle has been solved too.

An ex-Risaaldaar of the Levies, Major Aziz Ahmed signed off on Wali Muhammad’s identity card in compassion, (no Chai Pani ) even though the two weren’t acquainted even remotely.

A junior official of NADRA, Syed Afsar Raza, who helped several others like Wali Muhammad in obtaining Pakistani citizenship, has also been arrested. A few other names have also been added to the ECL. That is all there was to it. Is there anyone else to suspect?

Deep State goes "scot free" again !

There was once a child searching for something under the streetlight. An elder asked him, “Beta, what are you looking for?” The child answered, “Uncle, I dropped my money in the other lane. I’m looking for it.”The man said, “Child, you should look for the money where you dropped it.”
The child replied, “Uncle, it’s dark over there.”

shravanp · Post by **shravanp** » 31 May 2016 22:46

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 523946.cms

Hussain also said that the JF-17 aircraft, jointly produced with the Chinese help, were capable enough to meet all defence requirements of the country.
{all ??}

Pakistan had a fleet of state of the art JF-17 Thunder aircraft which carried all specifications of any advanced fighter jet, Hussain was quoted as saying by the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan (APP). { It carries any weapon and that too of any specification. Problem is that it just can't do any single job }

Pakistan was at top among the 10 countries having JF-17 fleet, he said, adding that the country's defence was impregnable and had the capability to meet all challenges. {Top 10 countries!? That's a shame to say that. I say, Pakistan is the top 1 nation having Bandars. Heck it's the only nation to have Bandars }

The minister's statement about the importance of JF-17 aircraft came even as the US Congress recently refused to partially fund eight F-16 jets which US has agreed to sell to Pakistan.{Statement 'All ij well' despite the buttsore}

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 31 May 2016 23:18

3 Pakistani students arrested in Afghanistan while conducting a university project

SLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Three Pakistani students have been held by Afghan authorities in the Bamyan province of central Afghanistan, officials said on Tuesday.
The university administration says that the students, Bazegh Khan, Khalil Karam, and Shah Muhammad, had traveled to Afghanistan for a university project last week.They were arrested by Afghan authorities some four days ago for allegedly carrying incomplete travel documents.

However, contrary to the claims of Afghan officials, observers have noted that the arrests were made in an apparent reaction to Pakistan’s recently uncompromising stance towards Afghan refugees living in the country for the last many decades.Last week, Balochistan’s Home Minsiter Safrafraz Bugti had warned that Afghan refugees needed to go back to their country as they were involved in terror activities including bomb blasts, murders and target killings.

IMO, the Pak-Afghan relations have now escalated to a new level of "tit-for-tat" reaction ; will it "graduate" to the next level is anybody's guess

Bugti’s remarks came after six alleged Afghan spies were arrested by Pakistani security agencies for carrying out subversive activities in parts of Balochistan.Bugti had also warned that the government would use force to expel Afghan refugees if the international community failed to take notice of the situation.
However, the state of Pakistan has legal and moral responsibilities towards refugees, especially those who are the victims of a war (created by Pakistan by provoking the Soviets !)) that Pakistan first helped fight in the 1980’s.

The Afghan government has, on various occasions, called for a further extension of the agreement till the end of 2018, arguing that the security situation in the country is not conducive to the return of refugees.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 31 May 2016 23:27

China may support ban on Masood Azhar if India resubmits plea: Subramanian Swamy

BEIJING: The Sino-Indian deadlock over a UN ban on JeM chief Masood Azhar and others may end if India resubmits its application focussing on evidence against him than attempting to "censure" Pakistan, BJP MP Subramanian Swamy on Tuesday said after talks with Chinese officials.

"My impression is that India can expect cooperation from China on the issue of declaring Masood Azhar, leader of Jaish-e-Muhammad, as terrorist who should face trial in India, if India in the UN concentrated more on him than seeking to censure Pakistan as a sponsor of terror," Swamy told PTI.

Swamy, who is here on a pilgrimage to Kailash-Manasarovar in Tibet, said he is visiting China in an individual capacity as an "old friend" but with the knowledge of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and other senior ministers of his cabinet.

The BJP leader said "as a tactical move it would (be) prudent (to) resubmit the complaint in UN which was blocked after China put a technical hold."

"Based on what I learnt here, I will be very surprised if China continues to obstruct once it is limited to hard evidence," said Swamy after meeting Wang Guo Qing, Director of the foreign affairs committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Committee, and Wu Hailong, President of the Chinese People's Institute of Foreign Affairs (CPIFA).

He said the application submitted by India in UN was more Pakistan-centric than Azhar. "I think for the limited purpose it was submitted which was to get UN sanctions, the report should be resubmitted," he said.

"I assume the Chinese would find it difficult to say no, once the report is limited to hard evidence. In fact it would (be a) good idea if there is pre-UN trilateral consultation between India, China and Pakistan," he said.

China, which previously blocked India's attempts to get a UN ban on Mumbai terror attack mastermind and LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, also put a hold on listing of Azhar as global terrorist for his role in the Pathankot attack.

The issue has cast a shadow on bilateral ties as India has expressed disappointment over China's actions while the two countries are seeking a way out to end the impasse.

The issue also figured in the just concluded visit of President Pranab Mukherjee.
Swamy suggested India, China and Pakistan trilateral talks to address the issues of cross border terrorism.

He said Prime Minister Modi is working hard to resume dialogue with Pakistan, but the "problem is that we can only talk to the constitutional authority in Pakistan which is the Prime Minister, who do not seem to have a final word. The army seems to have veto along with the ISI and Mullahs."

"China being a friend of Pakistan can help peace in South Asia by encouraging the constitutional authorities to assert their authority. If China convenes a tripartite meeting on India-China-Pakistan on issue of terrorism because terrorism from Pakistan is no longer a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan any more. It is also trilateral issue as terrorists from Pakistan also go to (Muslim-majority) Xinjiang," he said.
Cheers

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jun 2016 03:57

No Guarantee For Load Relief During Ramzan
8 Hours of Loadshedding During Ramzan: Govt Official

Summer has announced its arrival with blistering consequences in Pakistan. The mercury is expected to stay (and rise) from sub-30 degrees to 40 plus throughout June and July in the temperate region that Pakistan is located in.

Given this scenario, yesterday a meeting of the Parliamentary Committee was informed by the Secretary for Water and Power himself that efforts will be made to supply uninterrupted power supply to domestic consumers during Iftar and Sehr timings.

No power supply Guarantee; therefore tempers of Aam Abduls will also rise corresponding with the temperature rise !

The Secretary for Water and Power, Mr. Muhammad Younas Daga, has also announced that there will be 8 hours of load-shedding in rural areas during the holy month of Ramzan. Urban areas will see an average of 6 hours of load-shedding.
The move comes in the wake of an impending heatwave in the June-July months, making life unbearable for most. The issue of load-shedding is expected to add to the miseries of the affected rural areas.
Not to mention that last year a severe heatwave in Karachi (and some other parts of the country) claimed 1500+ lives. With the 8 hour loadshedding, water pumps in villages and other rural areas are expected to be affected.

PS: The Paki elite will of course not be affected to diesel generators and other sources of alternate arrangements

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 01 Jun 2016 04:18

How India’s Missile Defence System Can Take Down Pakistan

India’s claim that its indigenously designed ballistic missile defence (BMD) system – successfully tested on May 15 – can defend the country from a nuclear attack is being contested by a Russian expert.
According to Petr Topychkanov, Associate at the Carnegie Moscow Centre’s Non-Proliferation Programme, despite heavy investments in developing BMD systems, India may not be able to fully defend itself in a conflict from strikes by Pakistani missiles. “Even in 10 years and with the huge budgets that India plans to spend on the development of nuclear weapons and capabilities, it is difficult to imagine it will be able to defend its territory from possible strikes from Pakistan in case of conflict,” he says.

Given wide publicity in Paki papers; IMO, may not reflect Russian official thinking; think-tank is Massa based !

BMD technologies are complicated and it will take years – and perhaps decades –before India gets a reliable system.

But Topychkanov’s opinion doesn’t provide the complete picture. India’s BMD programme is not a zero-sum project that will either protect the country or won’t. Rather, it is part of a strategic escalation that will have far-reaching geopolitical impact, especially on Pakistan.

French Institute of International Relations explains how BMD works to unhinge the enemy’s strategy. According to the study, BMD:
- Creates uncertainty about the outcome of an attack in the mind of the attacker.
- Increases the raid size required for an attack to penetrate, thereby, undermining a strategy of firing one or two and threatening more thus reducing coercive leverage.
- Provides some assurance against risks of precipitate action by the aggressor.
- Buys leadership time for choosing and implementing courses of action, including time for diplomacy.
- Reduces the political pressure for pre-emptive strikes.

India’s development of a missile defence system will complicate the Pakistani military’s war planning. The Indian Army’s Cold Start strategy, for instance, has put huge pressure on the Pakistani economy by forcing Islamabad to crank up the production of nuclear weapons as well as delivery systems such as ballistic, cruise and tactical missiles.The latest Indian test is likely to create more insecurity in the Pakistani military establishment. According to a report by the World Politics Review, “India’s pursuit of strategic technologies, including BMD capabilities, has created extreme paranoia in the Pakistani defence and security establishment. Pakistan has already drastically increased its nuclear arsenal in recent years in response to India’s BMD efforts.”Pakistan is not content with having an adequate number of nuclear weapons to deter India from launching an attack. It wants to match India nuke for nuke. The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists says Pakistan is on course to have the world’s fifth-largest inventory of nuclear weapons, and is spending more than $2.5 billion on nuclear weapons annually.

Says the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists: “In working to double the size of its already substantial nuclear arsenal, Pakistan continues to place a disproportionate focus on its nuclear programme ahead of other key security concerns. This behaviour is far from new. In 1972, Pakistani President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto famously proclaimed, ‘Even if we have to eat grass we will make nuclear bombs’. Four decades later, Pakistan continues to pursue this strategy of nuclear buildup at any cost, thereby diverting resources away from other programmes that could attempt to address the country’s internal security and economic threats.”India’s BMD could be the proverbial straw that breaks the back of the Pakistani camel.

IMO, this is a deliberate (and good step!) policy to bankrupt Pakistan

Spinoffs for India.While any military spending is wasteful, it is a bit like insurance premiums – they hurt but when there’s a crisis you are glad you invested. Besides the obvious benefits, missile defence research could have lucrative spinoffs. Russia’s extensive R&D in strategic missile defence led to the development of battlefield missile defence systems such as the S-300, S-400 and S-500, of which the first two are in great demand worldwide. Similarly, India can be an exporter of low cost battlefield missile defence systems.

The Pakis will again have to look to "taller than mountain fliends" to bail them out in exchange for some selling of their sover-virginity