Terror Attack At Army Camp In Jammu And Kashmir's Uri

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Sep 2016 12:00

We will act. HM emergency meet is public face. There is a private face.

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:01

JayS wrote:Extremely saddened by loss of 17 of our brave soldiers. RIP brave sons of India. In return we can only give you mourning and few days coverage on TV. Yes, some will remember you but most will forget soon. I am more saddened by what will follow. No punitive action will be taken. Some meaningless words will fly for some time and again situation will be back to square one. When and where will we stop accepting such losses??

Our mentality, reminds me of the hoards of wild buffalos. While they are grazing peacefully, some predator comes and kills and takes away one of their own, they run away for some time, afraid, confused, but soon enough they come back and start grazing like nothing happened. We act just like those cattle while celebrating some false stupid spirit in ourselves which enables us to stand back. Yes, we stand back, but we never fight back. Today, as an Indian I feel ashamed that we cannot promise these soldiers who gave their lives for us that they will be avenged and the real perpetrators will be punished severely.

If we don't retaliate tonight, we won't retaliate ever. 'Saner voices' will prevail

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 18 Sep 2016 12:02

We will but I don't want it ti be in Baluchistan or KP or Sindh. It must be pakjab and targeted on the PA.

Paarth · Post by **Paarth** » 18 Sep 2016 12:12

INDIAN army burn porkis mofos... kill the porkis children women of these porkies military bitches hit them HARD mofos we should reply in SAME WORDS.. thats what MODI was saying during elections... tell porkies in same language they understand...

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:12

Even Cong has made an aggressive statement: "Uri attack needs robust response".

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 18 Sep 2016 12:20

Retaliate is one thing. But attack on Brigade HQ, what was Army doing? Tough but uncomfortable questions have to be raised

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 18 Sep 2016 12:21

It was not on Brigade HQ.

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:22

AAP sniffs political opportunity in the attack on India, demands resignations

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:24

rkirankr wrote:Retaliate is one thing. But attack on Brigade HQ, what was Army doing? Tough but uncomfortable questions have to be raised

The only question that has to be raised is why Pakis have infinite operational space and time?

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Sep 2016 12:31

This is not new ! I can expect ignoramuses posting on Reddit or newspaper comments sections saying that it's a new type of escalation or blame Balochistan policy for this. But even a casual search will show you that such attacks have been going on for years now. Pathankot was one example, Kathua, Samba, Uri and some places in Kashmir have all faced such attacks before.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Sep 2016 12:32

That is the question tat begs an answer. How does TSP have such ability to up and down things in the valley at will. First, they raised the temperature afer Wani's elimination leading to a lot of internal turmoil. Just when that seemed to be under control, Pakis pulled this off, and that too against the main line of defense, the army.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 18 Sep 2016 12:36

Bheeshma wrote:We will but I don't want it ti be in Baluchistan or KP or Sindh. It must be pakjab and targeted on the PA.

Couldn't agree more. We need to show the action was direct result of this attack. Sometimes there has to be a loud and clear message. I am tired of expecting that Doval must be planning some grand strategy for cold revenge. If our soldiers are being killed openly I want our govt to give strong answer equally openly. Do what you must do behind the curtains. But some very visible action needs to be there. Something like bombing in POJK terrorists camps or incineration of large number of PA installations along the border. Enemy should feel the pinch and the shame.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 18 Sep 2016 12:39

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... eet-today/

Many casualties due to tents on fire..

An army press release said that the Uri camp had large strengths of troops who were stationed in temporary tents which caught fire resulting in heavy casualties

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Sep 2016 12:39

jamwal wrote:This is not new ! I can expect ignoramuses posting on Reddit or newspaper comments sections saying that it's a new type of escalation or blame Balochistan policy for this. But even a casual search will show you that such attacks have been going on for years now. Pathankot was one example, Kathua, Samba, Uri and some places in Kashmir have all faced such attacks before.

Right. The only new thing here should be India's response.

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:40

CRamS wrote:That is the question tat begs an answer. How does TSP have such ability to up and down things in the valley at will. First, they raised the temperature afer Wani's elimination leading to a lot of internal turmoil. Just when that seemed to be under control, Pakis pulled this off, and that too against the main line of defense, the army.

Lack of retaliation from us. We are responsible for breeding the fearless Paki. They have been choosing, recceeing targets without fear. Response to every wanton act of war is to blame "intelligence failure", tighten security, blame government etc. Pakistan attacks, and instead of retaliating we act as force multipliers against ourselves.

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Sep 2016 12:47

rkirankr wrote:Retaliate is one thing. But attack on Brigade HQ, what was Army doing? Tough but uncomfortable questions have to be raised

Any security can be breached. These were well trained terrorists willing to die. It's not easy to stop such attacks. The only solution is to destroy the source of such terrorists. If there is standing water, mosquitoes will breed and cause malaria, dengue etc. Using mosquito repellants will only help to some extent but right fix is to clear out the standing water.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2016 12:47

My heart goes out to the dead soldiers and their families. 17 soldiers is a big number and cannot go unpunished. Punishment cannot and should not be too long in coming. Something is going to give way now.

abhisheka · Post by **abhisheka** » 18 Sep 2016 12:48

Newsx: "Massive retaliatory strikes being planned"

No doubt, time and place to be revealed soon to the press.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Sep 2016 12:50

News reports are saying this was an "administrative base"? What is that? Does it mean the soldiers there are not combat soldiers, only performing administrative duties. Of course, after every such tragedy, natural response is anger etc. I am sure ModiJi and Co are evaluating all options. May not be instant retaliation, but for sure this will not go unanswered. The wild card is India's internal cacophony that this will unleash.

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Sep 2016 12:52

Mercilessly bombing Pak army bases along LoC and IB killing hundreds of PA soldiers might be a good start.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 18 Sep 2016 12:52

17 Killed + 19 Injured TOI

partha · Post by **partha** » 18 Sep 2016 12:55

CRamS wrote:News reports are saying this was an "administrative base"? What is that? Does it mean the soldiers there are not combat soldiers, only performing administrative duties. Of course, after every such tragedy, natural response is anger etc. I am sure ModiJi and Co are evaluating all options. May not be instant retaliation, but for sure this will not go unanswered. The wild card is India's internal cacophony that this will unleash.

Doesn't matter what base it was. Indian soldiers died. That's all. Let's not make the mistake of over analyzing like in the case of Pathankot attack. It was a big distraction. The only focus here should be the massive retaliation.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 18 Sep 2016 12:56

RIP!

Something doesn't jive here! How can 17 soldiers be killed! They were sitting ducks, it seems!

Now that GST passed time to finish the Kashmir a la Tibet! That's how non-soft states operate. Either it's one India or it's not!

A little disappointment with Modi's operational tendencies.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 18 Sep 2016 12:57

The timing of attack is interesting. Seems new party from Bihar 6 had came just last night and were put up in tents, as per Nitin Gokhale. Do we smell a rat here? Possibility of info leak or something??

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 18 Sep 2016 12:59

Bheeshma wrote:We will but I don't want it ti be in Baluchistan or KP or Sindh. It must be pakjab and targeted on the PA.

+1
the only way to deter this kind of attack is to force TSPA to pay a price.

JayS wrote:The timing of attack is interesting. Seems new party from Bihar 6 had came just last night and were put up in tents, as per Nitin Gokhale. Do we smell a rat here? Possibility of info leak or something??

local informants can convey that kind of thing. the question is how was the info passed on.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2016 13:03

Brig. Mahalingam explained just now what happened. This was not Brigade HQ. It is a barrack adjacent to HQ where possibly carpenters, education havaldars etc were staying due to lack of space because there is a changeover taking place.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 18 Sep 2016 13:04

Rahul M wrote:+1
the only way to deter this kind of attack is to force TSPA to pay a price.

But how? TSPA senior ehelons seem to care little about how many troops they sacrifice.

Rahul M wrote:local informants can convey that kind of thing. the question is how was the info passed on.

The way it always has been. The way handlers in the valley receive instructions from their controllers across the LoC. I suspect there are sleepers in and around army camps and quite a few "mules" i.e. human couriers whose job maybe to run across the LoC and rat out all the intelligence they have gathered.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Sep 2016 13:04

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Sep 2016 13:07

partha wrote: Doesn't matter what base it was. Indian soldiers died. That's all. Let's not make the mistake of over analyzing like in the case of Pathankot attack. It was a big distraction. The only focus here should be the massive retaliation.

Absolutely. Hope I didn't convey otherwise. I was just curious as to what is an administrative base.

My own take is that unless Indian army retaliates, the libtard and opposition scum bags internally will go on the offensive claiming that ModiJi is being "irresponsible" with his aggressive posture, using soldiers as cannon fodder yada yada; and instead talks should be held with all "stake-holders" including TSP.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2016 13:10

This time around there can be no such statement as "We would chose a time and place of our liking to respond". We don't need to wait for any analysis whether these terrorists are Pakistanis, which part of Pakistan, their handlers, which terror groups they belonged to etc. The retaliation across the border must have started already. there can be no delay.

anchal · Post by **anchal** » 18 Sep 2016 13:23

Some soldiers were sleeping and tents caught fire

Pakis must pay the price and yes Kadi Ninda Rajanth Singh is incompetent to be holding meetings at such crucial junction. Modi must take charge

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Sep 2016 13:23

I will just puke in the coming days with Burka bibi types shedding crocodile tears for the dead soldiers in her so called "complex narrative" where "all sides" in Kashmir are suffering; a subtle and at times not so subtle psy-ops to push TSP PoV that "talks" are the only way forward.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Sep 2016 13:27

Admin base could mean a transit camp to handle overlap of outgoing ad incoming units

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Sep 2016 13:29

Unless some air and missile attacks are unleashed at the nearest pak army camps we should close this thread

No point in having a thread for hot air

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 18 Sep 2016 13:40

Singha wrote:Unless some air and missile attacks are unleashed at the nearest pak army camps we should close this thread

No point in having a thread for hot air

Be prepared for plenty of that in the coming hours and days Singha saar.

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 18 Sep 2016 13:41

Paul wrote:Find the ingress route and destroy the Paki BOPs closest to the ingress route with ATGMS.

That is the only thing to do now.

Destroy all the border outposts of Porkland bordering Uri as an act of punishment for letting terrorists enter India from the pork side.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 18 Sep 2016 13:44

rajpa wrote:Destroy all the border outposts of Porkland bordering Uri as an act of punishment for letting terrorists enter India from the pork side.

It's possible that the cowards may already have temporarily withdrawn from many of those border posts, confident that IA will not be allowed to pursue and halal them deep inside the occupied land.

They'll be back once the matter "cools down" ready to extend "moral and political" support to the jeehaadis once again.

Rinse and repeat.

abhishekm · Post by **abhishekm** » 18 Sep 2016 13:52

Kashi wrote:
Singha wrote:Unless some air and missile attacks are unleashed at the nearest pak army camps we should close this thread

No point in having a thread for hot air
Be prepared for plenty of that in the coming hours and days Singha saar.

I'm waiting for the standard response from Nawaz and ISPR about how this is 'home grown terror' and how this is linked to the Kashmir 'dispute'. They will also stick in a predictable line about how Pakistan is the 'victim of terror '.

I hope the meeting chaired by Kadi Ninda is not for show and Pakistani pain points are being evaluated to see to how best we can retaliate.

JayS · Post by **JayS** » 18 Sep 2016 13:56

^^ My blood boils with this theatrics that Pakis show and then they must be laughing smugly at our leaders who just do kadi ninda but have no guts to do ani kadi karwai. Every time our leaders give out dry words, entire world, not just pakis must be laughing at us.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 18 Sep 2016 13:59

What a horrific attack. May the dead RIP.

We need to break the cycle of Terror Attack -> Pak implicated --> Condemn and send Dossiers --> Repeat.

The Pakis must realise that there are consequences to such attacks.