Army strikes terror camps in PoK

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 22:54

We may have most likely thrashed PA directly, all those at the launch pads. PA and ISI personnel are deputed for those tasks. PA can do nothing but terror attacks. That is how cowardly the PA is.

As regards the soldier on their side, the jerk Maun Mohan isn't in charge. Am sure if push comes to shove, we will get 10 of theirs. Who inadvertently crossed.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 29 Sep 2016 22:54

brvarsh wrote:For those who are trying to water down that India did not hit Pakistani Army instead just cleaned up terrorists are not realizing how big of a slap this is to on Pakistan's face. Not too long ago a General was thumping his chest "we are not Bhutan" - so here you go! This strike pinned the balloon of nuclear retaliatory threats, it clearly showed the intent of India under this new leadership and it is a clear message India will not be a mute recipient of their terror. These terror pods are known to be under the protection or observation of Pakistani regulars and they couldn't do $hit is a direct message in itself.
There is a reason why Pakistan is playing down it as mere cross border small arms firing. In reality they know even under a heavy public pressure they won't be able to deliver any retaliatory message. By not touching Pakistani Army directly India has sent a restraint message and has drawn a line not to be crossed by them again. What fears is Pakistan may orchestrate a 26/11 type attack that we need to be very vigilant about.

Whatever, at the end of the day Pakistan is a fly sitting on a pile of shit.

We should be more concerned w/ health and sanitation of our people.

We gave them a bloody noise but we should keep focus on more important aspects of nation building.

Just let the Pashtuns do the heavy lifting and go in when we need to.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 22:56

More we hit Pakistan, more our nation building can go on.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 29 Sep 2016 22:57

Karan M wrote:More we hit Pakistan, more our nation building can go on.

Sure but we should see it to the end.

No use punching forever.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 22:58

brvarsh wrote:By not touching Pakistani Army directly India has sent a restraint message and has drawn a line not to be crossed by them again. What fears is Pakistan may orchestrate a 26/11 type attack that we need to be very vigilant about.

Far from that, the message that has gone out is that Pakistani Army will not pay a heavy price for trainning and directing terrorist. We should have killed regular Pakistani Army personnel including some Majors and a few Colonels. That would have been a slap on the face of Pakistani Army.

And you are right Pakistan will orchestrate another 26/11 type attack. They will rally their terrorist groups and be sure that the Indian Army will never be allowed by the Indian Establishment to actually cause harm to what matters to them. Forget the call of revoking the IWT.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 22:59

Keep punching those turds forever. The victims of the genocide in 1971 and in J&K, the umpteen terror attacks require no less. The Pakistani Army should beg us to stop. And we should refuse.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:00

Christopher Sidor wrote:
brvarsh wrote:By not touching Pakistani Army directly India has sent a restraint message and has drawn a line not to be crossed by them again. What fears is Pakistan may orchestrate a 26/11 type attack that we need to be very vigilant about.
Far from that, the message that has gone out is that Pakistani Army will not pay a heavy price for trainning and directing terrorist. We should have killed regular Pakistani Army personnel including some Majors and a few Colonels. That would have been a slap on the face of Pakistani Army.

And you are right Pakistan will orchestrate another 26/11 type attack. They will rally their terrorist groups and be sure that the Indian Army will never be allowed by the Indian Establishment to actually cause harm to what matters to them. Forget the call of revoking the IWT.

Raheel Sharif informed you that all PA personnel are safe, no doubt.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:01

As much as I may dislike Arnab'd bombast and TRP seeking - he is anyday better than the Burkha bibis and Turdesais and Coupta's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL_Z18-79LA

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 29 Sep 2016 23:03

This surgical strike is a big thing.. the message is very loud and clear.. now we will come after you, that includes both terrorists and PA as well. (number of PA dead in this operation is irrelevant)

They can retaliate by few firing or snatch and grab our soldiers but the retaliation is now sure and won't know it when and where they will get hit. They escalate at their own peril.

Sicanta · Post by **Sicanta** » 29 Sep 2016 23:04

Christopher Sidor wrote:
brvarsh wrote:By not touching Pakistani Army directly India has sent a restraint message and has drawn a line not to be crossed by them again. What fears is Pakistan may orchestrate a 26/11 type attack that we need to be very vigilant about.
Far from that, the message that has gone out is that Pakistani Army will not pay a heavy price for trainning and directing terrorist. We should have killed regular Pakistani Army personnel including some Majors and a few Colonels. That would have been a slap on the face of Pakistani Army.

And you are right Pakistan will orchestrate another 26/11 type attack. They will rally their terrorist groups and be sure that the Indian Army will never be allowed by the Indian Establishment to actually cause harm to what matters to them. Forget the call of revoking the IWT.

There is a time and place for such negativity. Now is not that time.

As for IWT, why should it be bomb or bust? Any action regarding it has to serve a bigger strategic purpose than to just do a temporary ungli to pakis. The gov is certainly doing the former.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 23:05

Karan M wrote:
Christopher Sidor wrote:Wow what a Lolipop given by our political establishment. Terrorist entered and killed 18 Indian Soldiers and how many PakiLands soldiers have we killed? 2. If somehow we are trying to send a message to Pakistani Army then the message that has gone out is that the cost to Pakistani Army is minimal. 2 soldiers for 18 a 1:9 ratio is not bad. At this rate India would have to loose 4.5 million soldiers just so that Pakistani army looses 500000 soldiers. We have not hurt the Pakistani Army in any manner. Nor have we increased the cost to the Pakistani Corp Commanders.

Forget about reclaiming our Lost territories. Forget about avenging our dead soldiers. Forget about increasing the cost to Pakistani Army. Forget about raising the cost to Pakistan. Just as Mushraaf was invited by Vajpayee after Kargil and was pampered like a Mughal emperor, this ruling establishment would invite the current Pakistani PM back if not the Pakistani Army CoAS. The very same PM who had called the terrorist Burhan Muzaffar Wani a young leader and not a terrorist would now be feted by our political establishment.
LOL as if Nawaz personally called you and told you only 2 were killed.

Please feel free to illuminate us with the correct Pakistani Army's KIA number.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 29 Sep 2016 23:06

pankajs wrote:Per First post, India has briefed about 25 foreign mission after the news was made public.

Folks understand, such briefings will not be conducted just as a ruse. Some nations like the US/UK have significant intel capacity to verify ground situation.

What was the need to this? Does the US inform us when it conducts an air strike in Syria?

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 29 Sep 2016 23:08

Karan M wrote:As much as I may dislike Arnab'd bombast and TRP seeking - he is anyday better than the Burkha bibis and Turdesais and Coupta's

the fact that arnab is the best talking head on tv, is not an indictment on us...it only shows how pathetic the rest of them are

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 29 Sep 2016 23:08

Now that India has taken a stand and action, we are going to face a very tough question.

Assuming that PA does have some b@lls and decide to escalate this in a way that requires India to move regular army inside pakistan there is a tiny chance that PA might after all use tactical weapons inside their territory to stop Indian advance. What is India going to do then is a big question. There is no doubt that there will be massive outcry across the world with anger directed at pakistan for use of nukes. This will happen even if it is used within paki borders. Just like aam Indians reacted after Uri the world will react the same way to put pressure on pakistan to avoid this conflict going out of hand. How far then India will go is a question. Indus water treaty will certainly be toast and there will be pressure for UNSC to cancel their resolution asking for plebiscite in Kashmir, the very basis of paki argument. Even China will find it extremely difficult to defend their munna when India prepares for an all out war and the whole world is against pakis. New UNSC resolution will most likely happen.

Again the question is will India be willing to forget such an attack on our forces just for IWT and UNSC resolution or some such breadcrumbs?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Sep 2016 23:10

Anyways, in a shoot and scoot situation, especially at night who will stand by and make an *accurate* body count or ID the body? The numbers would be guesstimation and so would be the identity of those killed.

Tejas.P · Post by **Tejas.P** » 29 Sep 2016 23:11

This is actually the perfect overt response. Hitting the PA *only* would signal a conventional tit for tat response. However hitting launch pads which include elements of PA, ISI handlers and fidayeens and recording it thru drone further exposes the duplicity and maliciousness of pak as it routinely denies harbouring terror camps inside its borders.

IMO in order to get Pakistan declared as a terror state, the world has to see ISI, terrorist groups and pak army as one and the same and this can only be achieved by hitting them in this manner in which they have to downplay the incident as much as possible to keep their lie going.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 29 Sep 2016 23:12

abhik wrote:
pankajs wrote:Per First post, India has briefed about 25 foreign mission after the news was made public.

Folks understand, such briefings will not be conducted just as a ruse. Some nations like the US/UK have significant intel capacity to verify ground situation.
What was the need to this? Does the US inform us when it conducts an air strike in Syria?

it is good..if it is part of a strategy that works.

they did get BD to say the right things, and some countries to not say wrong things. it shows goi is in control and on top of things and open to communication on its terms etc

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:13

Christopher Sidor wrote:
Karan M wrote:
LOL as if Nawaz personally called you and told you only 2 were killed.
Please feel free to illuminate us with the correct Pakistani Army's KIA number.

Oh no - why should i do that. Ask your contacts in PA since you are so cocksure about the KIA #s.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:14

Gus wrote:
Karan M wrote:As much as I may dislike Arnab'd bombast and TRP seeking - he is anyday better than the Burkha bibis and Turdesais and Coupta's

the fact that arnab is the best talking head on tv, is not an indictment on us...it only shows how pathetic the rest of them are

agreed. the rest are such third-rate curs that any other country would never have allowed them to climb to positions of power.

here is a veteran - Gaurav Arya & other paramil forces reaction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddWtPYuHyg

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Sep 2016 23:15

Gus wrote:
abhik wrote: What was the need to this? Does the US inform us when it conducts an air strike in Syria?
it is good..if it is part of a strategy that works.

they did get BD to say the right things, and some countries to not say wrong things. it shows goi is in control and on top of things and open to communication on its terms etc

Yu've beaten me to it but yes the GOI is trying to isolate Bakis internationally so you keep the important capitals in loop AFTER the fact to ensure that they get the correct version.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 29 Sep 2016 23:15

Christopher Sidor wrote:Please feel free to illuminate us with the correct Pakistani Army's KIA number.

Now you are being like Pakistan. You are asking for a banning from admins.

Marten · Post by **Marten** » 29 Sep 2016 23:17

Hush KaranM... His sources from APS/56APO didn't inform him of the KIA yet.

Admiral, say the word!

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 23:18

Too early to decode what is being said by both nations: Toby Dalton on India-Pakistan conflict --- DNA India

This guy is a foreigner so please keep this in mind while going through his comments. Having said that I think this is what generally the World might think

I understand that there has been a press briefing from India but this seems more like a public relations exercise targeted at the domestic audience which was holding up the government to its earlier claims of a tough stance on Pakistan.
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We only feel that the likelihood of more attacks and retaliatory moves is very real. Neither have India's defences gotten stronger, nor has Pakistan's motivation changed.

A public relations exercise????????

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:18

Maroof's emotion is so clear. Good on you sir!! Describes how Pakistan (and its sympathizers who are downplaying KIA #) will never admit to the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S155p_p5yvU

General Bikram Singh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHQdXE_d7Y

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 29 Sep 2016 23:19

Marten wrote:Hush KaranM... His sources from APS/56APO didn't inform him of the KIA yet.
Admiral, say the word!

I am a powerless Admiral. Admiral only in name

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:20

Bahut jali hain Pakistani sympathizers ki.

#Nothing will happen
#Only 2 died
#No PA people died
#No PA colonels generals died
#PR exercise
#Foreigners say

LOL

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 23:22

Rakesh wrote:
Christopher Sidor wrote:Please feel free to illuminate us with the correct Pakistani Army's KIA number.
Now you are being like Pakistan. You are asking for a banning from admins.

If asking for facts gets me banned so be it. I still stand by my words, please tell us the so called correct figure of Pakistani Army's KIA number. Let us know the number.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:27

Facts are known to the doers. And the rest of the nation trusts the doers, not the false flag types desperately trying to salvage some H&D from a stinging kick to Pakistan and the Army of Islamists posterior.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:29

Christopher Sidor wrote:Too early to decode what is being said by both nations: Toby Dalton on India-Pakistan conflict --- DNA India

This guy is a foreigner so please keep this in mind while going through his comments. Having said that I think this is what generally the World might think
I understand that there has been a press briefing from India but this seems more like a public relations exercise targeted at the domestic audience which was holding up the government to its earlier claims of a tough stance on Pakistan.
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We only feel that the likelihood of more attacks and retaliatory moves is very real. Neither have India's defences gotten stronger, nor has Pakistan's motivation changed.
A public relations exercise????????

who the eff is tony dalton anyway and why should we care ? a co-author of george perkovich is as low a creature as they come.

kit · Post by **kit** » 29 Sep 2016 23:30

i think now pakistan deserves more pressure from Afghanistan , Baluchistan and the pashtuns .. let there be more weapons and funding for them ..blowing up CPEC will reduce china s use for pakistan.. let them do the covert work for india .. and we can focus on building the country

williams · Post by **williams** » 29 Sep 2016 23:31

I think it is time to discuss what will be Paki response and how we respond to it.

Non state actor action in the border areas or major cities?
BAT type action?
Artillery action in the LC and border?
Air Strike ? Do they even have such a capability to over come our air defense?
Nooklar strike?
Internationalizing Kashmer ? Diplomatic offensive ?

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 29 Sep 2016 23:32

Karan M wrote:Bahut jali hain Pakistani sympathizers ki.

#Nothing will happen
#Only 2 died
#No PA people died
#No PA colonels generals died
#PR exercise
#Foreigners say

LOL

Oh don't forget. We'll be giving up territory also, and inviting Pakistani leaders to Delhi and pampering them like Mughal Emperors.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 29 Sep 2016 23:32

Well Christopher, Pakis have officially confirmed 2, Media sources India state 8 camps of 25-30 Terrorists each netralised plus 9-10 Paki SSG who came in 2 trucks to stop the attacks Thier KIA is about 9-10 uniformed Jihadis and around 150+ non uniformed Jihadis. Pakis can never claim their KIA. This is the army which never took part in Kargil remember.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 29 Sep 2016 23:33

Chris, that dalton fart can say what he wants. But I have followed his earlier views, and also what he says in that interview. He is essentially justifying TSP terror by suggesting that India is at fault in Kashmir and so must talk t TSP. Somebody with kind of a perverted mindset cannot stomach an Indian response, thats for sure.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:33

LOL rahul m - perkovich has been desperately peddling to everyone india should depend on international pressure and not attack.

this entire gang of parasites which fed off of the gundhee-peacefulfakir-poor india mystique and simultaneously painted as ineffectual hindu, casteist bigots will now be sh!tting their pants.

the rules have changed.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 29 Sep 2016 23:36

when i say rules have changed, please understand the indian babu-GOI mindset. we do things properly once its in the open.

our nuke program was being run ineffectually till ABV brought it into the light. now we have a credible deterrence.

modi has brought india's retaliatory measures & open use of force as the new normal. this means defence, funding our IA SF units, R&AW + special group support will also get a fillip and over time be established. joint command & control for SF activities may end up being normalized too.

this is the way things work in India.

Christopher Sidor · Post by **Christopher Sidor** » 29 Sep 2016 23:37

Karan M wrote:Facts are known to the doers. And the rest of the nation trusts the doers, not the false flag types desperately trying to salvage some H&D from a stinging kick to Pakistan and the Army of Islamists posterior.

So for all we know it is probable that less than 2 Pakistani Soldiers might have been killed. Wow.............. A surgical strike in which no PA soldiers are killed which was allegedly called to avenge the death of 18 Indian Soldiers.
OR we are supposed to just blindly trust some individual that more than 2 have been killed. Hmmmm......

Like I said illuminate us.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 29 Sep 2016 23:37

Christopher Sidor wrote:....If asking for facts gets me banned so be it. I still stand by my words, please tell us the so called correct figure of Pakistani Army's KIA number. Let us know the number.

4 lubricated Ayeshas and 7 frustrated Mohammeds browning their Shalwars.

What's your problem? if you're unhappy that not enough were killed, you can always support the action that killed a few and ask for more.

Instead of moaning on about it.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 29 Sep 2016 23:38

This guy is a foreigner so please keep this in mind while going through his comments

In 2016 and that too on BRF