2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 26 May 2021 20:31

Congress party on behest of masters is trying to forment trouble in Lakshadeep. The goal is to enable setting up a base for foreign masters. They are creating controversy where there is none.

kit · Post by **kit** » 26 May 2021 20:50

darshan wrote:No wonder this union minister is not capable of thinking outside the box and ever do anything about rampant issues in the medical industry. Hiding behind the garb of medical workers.

IMA continues to bully Baba Ramdev, now sues him for Rs 1,000 crore over his statements on Allopathic medicine
https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/ima-to- ... ba-ramdev/

This Jaylal guy seems to be from kuzhuthurai, tamil nadu., likely orthodox tamil christian (converted hindu parents likely from the OBC group) , rabid anti BJP and anti hindu !!

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 26 May 2021 21:33

Statistics and awareness materials about everything should have been ongoing in covid wards and vaccination centers. Present the information in a way that it sticks in brain and then do mann ki baat.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 May 2021 21:43

kit wrote:
darshan wrote:No wonder this union minister is not capable of thinking outside the box and ever do anything about rampant issues in the medical industry. Hiding behind the garb of medical workers.

This Jaylal guy seems to be from kuzhuthurai, tamil nadu., likely orthodox tamil christian (converted hindu parents likely from the OBC group) , rabid anti BJP and anti hindu !!

This clown had blamed Ayurvedic practitioners for the spread of covid in India. He is as kattarpanti ricebag as they come.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 May 2021 22:33

and this, boys and girls is exactly how it is done by the BIF rice bags when they get into the driving seat.

not a moment wasted, no explanations, no outcry and no guilt or stockholm syndrome

TN: MK Stalin has started the work of changing the Educational Syllabus, days after taking power.

The committee will include DMK friendly Muslim and Christian teams to ensure the syllabus is friendly to them.

NexGen of dumileans will hate Hinduism more.

via@arunpudur

now, why exactly haven't the other guys moved even a single inch, after seven years in power and having complete control

some ministerial idiot publicly boasted that they have not changed even a single line in any textbook after all these years

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 May 2021 22:43

Ambar wrote:
kit wrote:
This Jaylal guy seems to be from kuzhuthurai, tamil nadu., likely orthodox tamil christian (converted hindu parents likely from the OBC group) , rabid anti BJP and anti hindu !!
This clown had blamed Ayurvedic practitioners for the spread of covid in India. He is as kattarpanti ricebag as they come.

there has been a longstanding BIF attempt to target ayurveda and prominent ayurvedic practitioners like Ramdev and they have just the right jehadi fascist rice bag in the right place at the right time to do it

It rankles too that Ramdev has fairly and squarely beaten international MNC marketing "specialists" like HLL and ITC at their own game and in their pet markets with his home grown patanjali products, apart from great envy and jealousy at his huge social clout in many states

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 26 May 2021 22:53

chetak wrote:and this, boys and girls is exactly how it is done by the BIF rice bags when they get into the driving seat.

not a moment wasted, no explanations, no outcry and no guilt or stockholm syndrome

TN: MK Stalin has started the work of changing the Educational Syllabus, days after taking power.

The committee will include DMK friendly Muslim and Christian teams to ensure the syllabus is friendly to them.

NexGen of dumileans will hate Hinduism more.
via@arunpudur

Tamil Hindus now must really be satisfied at giving their votes to rabidly anti-Hindu parties. This is one blind race

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 26 May 2021 23:54

Hopefully the education syllabus will include how their coreligionists called Madras n!??er town when they were the overlords.

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 27 May 2021 00:09

Sadly,Tamil hindus were cheated with videos of finance minister spouting pro hindu messages, MK stalin getting the blessings of sankara mutt acharya etc. Sometimes I dont understand why the usual "bad memory imprints lasting long theory" does not work for us...sigh...

Kaivalya · Post by **Kaivalya** » 27 May 2021 08:08

Kaivalya wrote:I cant find state vs centre responsibility matrix defined - still looking.

https://www.firstpost.com/health/union- ... 97731.html

I found a partial answer from a NITI Ayog study : Central gov can do special purpose transfer (based on schemes )or general purpose transfer as proposed by the financial commission recommendations under the aegis of the president. In other words centre cannot dangle a carrot/incentive to get the states to do something and beat inertia.

General purpose transfer - states get it based on voodoo by finance commission (70%)

Special purpose transfer - states get it by participating in central schemes (30%). Given basic necessity schemes like electricity, water , insurance etc the centre has limited use for leverage to get the state to do something.

States already run a deficit by design and will not do anything else as "center/ATM has to provide" Given that incentives cannot be given for service level performance cannot be set or managed by the central government

So my understanding is : Any time center has to do anything they have only political capital to spend. Hence each state has "your mileage might vary" results

Sorry...could not clean the URL after my google chacha search

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... WscW5a0hZI

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 27 May 2021 08:10

Kaivalya wrote:Sadly,Tamil hindus were cheated with videos of finance minister spouting pro hindu messages, MK stalin getting the blessings of sankara mutt acharya etc. Sometimes I dont understand why the usual "bad memory imprints lasting long theory" does not work for us...sigh...

Hindus were cheated in Kerala, in Delhi, in Bengal, in Tamil Nadu, in Rajasthan ... they get taken in everywhere, for some reason, by anti-Hindu parties. But no Muslim will vote for a BJP politician even if he takes up permanent residence at a mosque. That is the difference.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 May 2021 10:29

On the new farm bill, have the expert committee appointed by Supreme Court given its findings? Their time line was to submit it in March-April time line. I was reading in a Malayalam online portal that the expert committee recommended to put on hold the enforcement of the Act for 2.5 years ! And looks like the broker terrorist gang have decided to protest by raising black flags in their homes

. No more dance drama at the border areas or rushing to lay seige on Delhi.

disha · Post by **disha** » 27 May 2021 11:33

sanjayc wrote:
Kaivalya wrote:Sadly,Tamil hindus were cheated with videos of finance minister spouting pro hindu messages, MK stalin getting the blessings of sankara mutt acharya etc. Sometimes I dont understand why the usual "bad memory imprints lasting long theory" does not work for us...sigh...
Hindus were cheated in Kerala, in Delhi, in Bengal, in Tamil Nadu, in Rajasthan ... they get taken in everywhere, for some reason, by anti-Hindu parties. But no Muslim will vote for a BJP politician even if he takes up permanent residence at a mosque. That is the difference.

Nothing to do with BJP or JBP or PJB. Do not lay the issue of religion at the feet of a political party. People confuse between a cultural Hindu and a religional Hindu.

BJP or JBP or PBJ or any political party will not be saving the religional Hindu. Neither the temporal aspects of the religion be handed over to a political party. The cultural Hindu definitely needs to be political platform. Why? Cultural Hindu is the soul of Hindustan a.ka Bharat a.ka India.

The religional Hindu would do a rona-dhona and castigate Mudi and ensure that the Mudi rezines. They cannot look beyond their noses and their own egos to see that no political party should interfere in the aspects of religional Hindu. For example, what stops VHP from discussing the gyanvyapi temple? Or setting up temples in North with priests from south and setting up temples in South with priests from North? Why does not VHP have one more splendid temple in each and every district of India? All it requires is 644 temples! With each district, why cannot they have local administration teaching the Hindu scriptures, the language and becoming a positive force in the district? Is that a job of a PM? Why is there almost zero presence of VHP in South? Leave that, where is the arm of VHP to counter the conversions? It is the state governments which is taking lead inspite of emporer penguins and mediapimps. Is that the job of the state government? Or is it governance?

But VHP leaders have their own political ambitions. I would rather have a VHP put out to pasture than a VHP with political ambitions.

So people doing rona-dhona about what Mudi and team should do and are not doing to save the religional Hindu is all non-sense. One can ignore them, problem is that with their inability to see beyond their noses they weaken the very team which is out to strengthen them! Mudi and team are already wearing religion on their sleeve. Doing fast for 9 days on a state visit. Sitting in the yajna at Ram Mandir. Participating in the maha-arti at Varanasi.

The cultural aspects of Hinduism, that is, the cultural Hindu comes under a political party and the government if the political party forms it. What is it? It will be the glorious monuments that need to be safeguarded or enhanced, some as part of ASI. The cultural aspects of Hinduism is ensuring that heritage cities like Varanasi, Mathura, Dwarka, Madurai, Thiruvananthapuram ... thrive. They become great destinations for both tourism and pilgrimage. They showcase the best of Indian and Hindu culture. That means getting the Kumbh mela done without any deaths... And the track record on this of Mudi is splendid. One just has to see where Varanasi was and where it has come.

Also, majority of "Hindus" suffer from secularitis. This is a disease. It diseases their mind to the extent that they want to feel that they are secular and woke at the cost of other "Hindus".

And just like china virus, the disease of 'seculatis' is widespread. People suffering from the most virulent form of it will castigate and also castrate themselves to feel proud of their "equanimity".

The secularitis infected Hindus will feel shy about "beef". Will be running down her/his Ayurveda. Will make fun of his/her own sacred texts to feel a global citizen. In fact, will act like a global citizen generally aping a white man (and nowadays Chinese). Nothing much is expected from secularitis infected Hindu, except they will act as the black mold on the yogurt when you are trying to set one.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 27 May 2021 11:57

Sachin wrote:On the new farm bill, have the expert committee appointed by Supreme Court given its findings? Their time line was to submit it in March-April time line. I was reading in a Malayalam online portal that the expert committee recommended to put on hold the enforcement of the Act for 2.5 years ! And looks like the broker terrorist gang have decided to protest by raising black flags in their homes . No more dance drama at the border areas or rushing to lay seige on Delhi.

Their (farmer broker) Delhi visits usually coincide with the time when there is not much work at the farms, but their presence would be required for sowing and harvesting (lending money/supplies during the former and collections/trading during the latter). Does June fall into either of these activities?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 May 2021 12:01

Kaivalya wrote:Sadly,Tamil hindus were cheated with videos of finance minister spouting pro hindu messages, MK stalin getting the blessings of sankara mutt acharya etc. Sometimes I dont understand why the usual "bad memory imprints lasting long theory" does not work for us...sigh...

Nobody was cheated, many just don't think DMK as threat and have their own personal agendas, since May 2 Tamil media is behaving like the propaganda wing of the CM.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 27 May 2021 12:59

Sachin wrote:On the new farm bill, have the expert committee appointed by Supreme Court given its findings? Their time line was to submit it in March-April time line. I was reading in a Malayalam online portal that the expert committee recommended to put on hold the enforcement of the Act for 2.5 years ! And looks like the broker terrorist gang have decided to protest by raising black flags in their homes . No more dance drama at the border areas or rushing to lay seige on Delhi.

Is the recommendation binding on the government. Or they have the option of ignoring this?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 27 May 2021 13:16

Reporting from social media trenches.

Earlier in the day I had some free time and nothing better to do than to spend time on you tube. In one of the videos a certain group of people were as usual attacking the centre over covid.

I attempted to answer as best as I could with facts. But certain tropes kept getting repeated. I called one of them out on that.

Immediately the guy I called out reached out to another few people on the thread it self and called a retreat. While accusing me of being a BJP IT cell.

All of them immediately retreated.

To me this is significant because i was treating them as individuals. But the speed with which all of them left shows a coordinated behaviour.

It also shows me that they can be beaten.

Zynda · Post by **Zynda** » 27 May 2021 13:24

Probably not the right place for this...
More Indians mull shifting base abroad amid Covid pain

MAY 27, 2021

“So many people want to get out of here,” said an employee of an immigration consultant firm in Mumbai.

Synopsis

At least half-a-dozen visa and immigration service providers told ET they have seen a 20% surge in queries in the past two months and the number is expected to go up in the coming months as people recover from Covid.

A 50-year-old businessman living in northwest Delhi for several decades has firmed up plans to emigrate with his family to New Zealand or Canada after a close relative lost his son to Covid despite money being no object when it came to treatment. Another resident of Noida recently flew his family to Qatar, hoping to provide them with better healthcare opportunities in the future.

They are among many Indians contemplating a move to countries with better healthcare and infrastructure after the local system failed during the pandemic’s second wave, which was marked by hospital beds, oxygen and medicines running out amid a surge in infections and deaths. And, it’s not just the affluent who’re looking to move abroad for good.

At least half-a-dozen visa and immigration service providers told ET they have seen a 20% surge in queries in the past two months and the number is expected to go up in the coming months as people recover from Covid. The increase in queries is a little more than 25% from the past year with the majority of them coming through referrals and word-of-mouth recommendations.

Queries are pouring in for not just the usual destinations such as the US, Canada and Australia but also smaller nations like Austria, Ireland, Portugal, Malta, Cyprus, Turkey and even Saint Kitts and Nevis, despite language issues. The prime consideration is ease of obtaining visas for better opportunities. To be sure, the main candidates remain Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

With the second wave impacting almost every Indian family in one way or another, the main emigration push has undergone a clear change in the recent past, said Charanjit Singh, director, iVACS Global, which offers visa and immigration services.

“We are now being contacted by clients from middle-class families wishing to explore the possibilities of establishing themselves along with their families either in a country of their choice or a country which offers better facilities to its citizens, particularly health and education, requires minimum investment and takes less time to process their immigration application,” Singh said.

Prior to the pandemic, almost 90% of clients cited reasons such as expansion of business to taxation policies to ease of doing business and almost all were from higher-income brackets.

“So many people want to get out of here,” said an employee of an immigration consultant firm in Mumbai. “People feel the governments in overseas countries provide value for their money and taxes. The second wave has made people realise how important infrastructure is for a country. People feel if they are not going to be taken care of despite earning so much and if the government is unwilling to spend on healthcare, they see no reason for living here.”

The AfrAsia Bank Global Wealth Migration Review released in September last year stated that about 2% or 7,000 of India’s total high net worth individuals (HNWIs) moved out in 2019. This percentage will increase by the end of 2021, experts said. Apart from which, it’s not just the HNWIs who want to leave now, as Singh said.

Emigration queries are rising, primarily from people working abroad whose parents are alone in India, said Jyoti Mayal, president of the Travel Agents Association of India (TAAI), an association of about 3,000 members spanning airline ticketing and other travel industry verticals.

“Their parents are in a country where the medical facilities are not so great and they have seen what has happened in the last one month,” she said. “The second wave has got them thinking as to why our parents should be alone? None expected such devastating effects. Other people staying here are also looking at countries such as Canada and Australia to get a better living environment. A lot of people who can afford now want to apply.”

Visa processing firm VFS Global said information pertaining to visa categories, including application counts or visa trends for specific countries in any category, is owned and maintained by the respective diplomatic mission.

“VFS Global manages solely non-judgmental aspects of the visa application process and does not store visa application data which is purged within specific timelines,” the company said in a statement.

Most consultants say it’s not too difficult to emigrate. Canada for instance targets about 350,000 immigrants every year, they said.

On being asked if Indians might find it difficult to emigrate considering the global scrutiny of the country’s response to the second wave, consultants said they are hoping the situation would have changed in India by the time applications come up for consideration. The processing for permanent residency applications typically takes about a year.

Y-Axis, one of the largest immigration firms, didn’t respond to queries. There was no response to queries sent to immigration departments, embassies and consulates of the US and Australia.

Immigration New Zealand, part of the New Zealand Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment, and a media relations spokesperson for the immigration, refugees and citizenship department of Canada said they wouldn’t be able to provide information ahead of the press deadline. The UK Home Office visa and immigration department said it doesn’t hold the data in the “requested format”.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 13:37

darshan wrote:No wonder this union minister is not capable of thinking outside the box and ever do anything about rampant issues in the medical industry. Hiding behind the garb of medical workers.

IMA continues to bully Baba Ramdev, now sues him for Rs 1,000 crore over his statements on Allopathic medicine
https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/ima-to- ... ba-ramdev/
...
It may be noted that Baba Ramdev has already withdrawn his statement on the request of union health minister Harsh Vardhan. The minister had written to the Yoga guru saying that his statement on allopathic medicines was “extremely unfortunate”, and had asked him to withdraw the remark, saying it disrespects ‘corona warriors’ and can break the morale of healthcare workers.
.....

Not just wanting to use hospitals to convert Hindus, IMA Chief Johnrose Jayalal also harbours visceral hate for PM Modi
https://www.opindia.com/2021/05/dr-jaya ... ima-chief/

This so called Minister was more interested in getting Hindus arrested for bursting firecrackers on Diwali eve last year, at a time when he should have been working on resolving the oxygen supply chain issues for the coming waves of covid. Also does full appeasement of islamics in his constituency. Here celebrating id while opposes diwali fireworks. These are precisely the ministers who will destroy Modi's legacy.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 14:04

Zynda wrote:Probably not the right place for this...
More Indians mull shifting base abroad amid Covid pain

MAY 27, 2021

“So many people want to get out of here,” said an employee of an immigration consultant firm in Mumbai.

Synopsis

At least half-a-dozen visa and immigration service providers told ET they have seen a 20% surge in queries in the past two months and the number is expected to go up in the coming months as people recover from Covid.

...........

It would be stupid to migrate for better covid treatment, when almost all developed countries have failed wrt Hospital treatment at peak Pandemic periods. Not just covid patients but even those with other diseases have been screwed in rich countries during this period. I personally know someone in UK who was diagnosed with Gall bladder stones during August last year. Till this date he hasn't received an appointment for surgery citing covid reasons. Since then he is on painkillers. One can only imagine the kind of damages and side effects his body will face. Courtesy the so called efficient NHS England.

Probably the Indian rich are migrating because now they have no hope in the future of India anymore. And I don't blame them since this republic now exists only to fulfill the agenda of Social Justice and Secularism along with gibs, gimmicks and optics. India has long since turned its back on competence and merit. Businessmen and enterpreneurs have been made out as villains and exploiters of the society. Hence the migration. This is an extremely worrisome and ominous sign for India. Since those who are moving away are not just taking their capital but also their competence thereby further decreasing the average IQ of the Indian society.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 27 May 2021 14:12

Medical tourism in India was because of the high cost of health care and waiting list for treatment in western countries.

It is not going to change today or tomorrow.

Fairly stupid of these people.

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 27 May 2021 16:11

I'd rather not rely on people who wish to turn tail at the first sight of trouble. So if a bunch of such people want to emigrate, let them. We have enough people to spare, and our IQ is not going to be impacted in any way, despite darshan-ji's fears. We must remember that it was the supposedly low-IQ types (basically, those who didn't emigrate) that got PSLV, GSLV, LCA, Chandrayaan, and now Covaxin done.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 27 May 2021 16:45

While people going out is not a problem, we have to ensure that we tax heavily the money leaving the country.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 May 2021 18:27

..and fine heavily on those who have gained citizenship of another country but have not yet turned in the passport. People wanting to move to Turkey, Austria, Cyprus, Greece etc. i sure hope its not just glossy brochures that they browsed while sitting in their travel agents office that influenced their decisions but they have done some actual research on the history, society, culture and politics of those countries, else they are in for a rude awakening.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 May 2021 18:30

Pratyush wrote:
Sachin wrote:On the new farm bill, have the expert committee appointed by Supreme Court given its findings? Their time line was to submit it in March-April time line. I was reading in a Malayalam online portal that the expert committee recommended to put on hold the enforcement of the Act for 2.5 years ! And looks like the broker terrorist gang have decided to protest by raising black flags in their homes . No more dance drama at the border areas or rushing to lay seige on Delhi.

Is the recommendation binding on the government. Or they have the option of ignoring this?

The govt themselves have agreed to postpone the law taking effect until 2024 but the farm middleman terrorists want a full repeal and have the govt agree to unrelated matters like releasing naxal terrorists, allow stubble burning etc. Sadly the middlemen have all the time in the world now that they've built permanent structures right on national highways they'll always find someone to use those shelters endlessly all in the name of protests.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 18:55

arshyam wrote:I'd rather not rely on people who wish to turn tail at the first sight of trouble. So if a bunch of such people want to emigrate, let them. We have enough people to spare, and our IQ is not going to be impacted in any way, despite darshan-ji's fears. We must remember that it was the supposedly low-IQ types (basically, those who didn't emigrate) that got PSLV, GSLV, LCA, Chandrayaan, and now Covaxin done.

Half of BRF itself is based outside. Not me though. Sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong. Yes we have done reasonably well in the areas of space research, nuclear program and certain aspects of defence research. But is that going to carry us forward in the next century. Where are we in
1.semiconductors
2.software products
3.Artificial intelligence(software,hardware and other ai applications)
4.robotics
5.advanced machinery
6.civilian airliners
7.genetic research and biowar
8.Ship building
9.Quantum Computing( some research has started but we are far behind)
10.neurosciences and brain research
11.Additive manufacturing

These are the fields that will decide your nation's fate in 21st century. And the hard truth is that we are nowhere in the race. Even the advances we made in nuclear and space research were in large part due to exemplary leaders like Vikram Sarabhai, Homi J. Bhabha, Satish Dhawan, Raja Ramanna etc. Do you seriously expect such leaders today to emerge out of morass of mediocrity?

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 19:09

kvraghav wrote:While people going out is not a problem, we have to ensure that we tax heavily the money leaving the country.

That is a very short sighted approach. Instead of looking into why these people are migrating and what are their concerns and then improving the state of affairs, you are further robbing and victimising them. And what happens when you run out of that money after "redistributing it"? Then what is the difference between the state and Dawood Ibrahim?

And don't worry this heavy taxation clause will likely never be implemented and if it is implemented it will consist of loopholes. Do you know why? Because those who are ruling (politicians/bureaucrats/judges/corporates etc) are themselves looking for an out. Then who will make and implement the rules you are talking about?

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 27 May 2021 19:10

To increase Darshan confusion, to add to that one also need to see through the new age problems along with increasing non dharmic population. It's not about IQ as much as how much time would be diverted to deal with non IQ problems on the daily basis.

Many I know are keeping as many doors open as possible to leave if things go south and there's no masterstroke from BJP. All are using jihad based metric and none are concerned about covid. They know which virus is not contained by using masks.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 May 2021 19:43

High taxation does not work out, as already many transactions related to India are net Settled in Dubai and Singapore, Whether its materials or Service, under Invoiced in India and the fat cats sitting in low taxation places settle the difference. None of these low taxation countries are going to shoot themselves in the foot by revealing all these details.

People will always immigrate, but its a myth that these are only high tech people, in fact anyone who wants to control their property and business needs to be physically present or somebody else will take their cake away- that is true for all countries.

There is a bit of snobbishness with the Uber wealthy- many of them became over wealthy in Bank write offs and many schemes, if they wanted they could have settled abroad long back.

Overall it increases India's diaspora and somehow BIF itself seem to invested in these individuals and find these people useless when they immigrate.

Govts need to concentrate what is right and these things will sort themselves out. Improve railways, Highways, Manufacturing Rural, small town infrastructure etc and slowly big city pressures will also come down.

At the end of the day every place has a plus and a negative. Clean infrastructure with strict rules, - it is very dangerous to make a joke on Islam in say Dubai or Chinese in Singapore. You cannot enjoy Indian wildlife or Indian veggies or fruit like mangoes abroad- I have tried in Middle east - refrigeration's kills the taste. In Minneapolis winter you need to dress up even to throw garbage. I can go to many temples on week end trips , drive freely in India. Every person weighs the pros and cons and makes a choice, but no one has the right to flaunt and state they are doing the country a favour by staying- somebody will definitely take their place if they leave.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 27 May 2021 19:46

darshhan wrote:...

Why do we want to think like this? Why not we think that many people among the politicians, IAS, IPS have all their kids studying abroad. This is one of the reasons they are not worried about the future of India simply because their future is elsewhere. This is why we should prevent Non Indians from inheriting any property by will or by death. We earn in a country and then want to move the wealth out of it, it is only fair to expect to return some of them. The US which we all seem to love so much taxes Indians working there for their earnings in India remember? Thats because they think the investments are done using the earnings from the US and hence they deserve a part of the income. No outrage on this, is there?

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 27 May 2021 19:50

darshan wrote:To increase Darshan confusion, to add to that one also need to see through the new age problems along with increasing non dharmic population. It's not about IQ as much as how much time would be diverted to deal with non IQ problems on the daily basis.

Many I know are keeping as many doors open as possible to leave if things go south and there's no masterstroke from BJP. All are using jihad based metric and none are concerned about covid. They know which virus is not contained by using masks.

And go where to escape the Jihad? London or rest of Europe or even canada which is more Jihadi infested than India? Atleast we can celebrate festivals here in public unlike London where you get heckled right in front of your embassy.

S_Madhukar · Post by **S_Madhukar** » 27 May 2021 20:05

Unfortunately darshannji we missed out on 3 other strategic achievements that we must strive for

1. A fully educated population - so that people can think fearlessly and independently
2. A legal system- people, frameworks, bureaucracy and institutions that understand, obey and implement laws impartially - so that corrupt people and politicians can be held, prosecuted and made examples of. Public shaming is of no use as we have plenty of shameless people
3. National/State vision and goal - at least progress could be measured unlike anyone selling any false hopes and taking false credits

Looking at some of the younger generation I hear on YT I have higher hope for the future and economic growth will help drive that. But my worry is that the ones that are left behind will be just that

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 May 2021 21:49

The govt has stated that “protecting free speech in India” is the responsibility of the Indian government and not the prerogative of a private, for-profit, foreign entity like Twitter.

ouch, that's a pretty stiff kick in the nethers for jack on crack

jack on crack has needlessly poked the bear and the GoI has bared its fangs, brutally describing twitter as "a private, for-profit, foreign entity": and there goes jack on crack's dreams of world domination

jack on crack's twitter has now become one of the main opposition parties in India aligned as it is with the congis, commies, liberandus, jehadis and wokes.

Twitter’s statement is an attempt to dictate its terms to the world’s largest democracy. Through its actions and deliberate defiance, Twitter seeks to undermine India’s legal system: Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology pic.twitter.com/WyGumYToYv

via@ANI, May 27, 2021

Najunamar · Post by **Najunamar** » 27 May 2021 21:50

darshan wrote:To increase Darshan confusion, to add to that one also need to see through the new age problems along with increasing non dharmic population. It's not about IQ as much as how much time would be diverted to deal with non IQ problems on the daily basis.

Many I know are keeping as many doors open as possible to leave if things go south and there's no masterstroke from BJP. All are using jihad based metric and none are concerned about covid. They know which virus is not contained by using masks.

Basic problem of decreasing ratio of dharmics to adharmics will continue till we tackle the root cause which is indiscriminate use of reservation to create an environment that penalizes meritorious students/workers in Govt institutions. Unless the pipeline is fixed (only economic support - not his BS of making things equitable by adding 20% to so & so community), India will continue to stumble along as this will be repeated and compounded generation after another. Disincentives of smaller opportunities forces these communities which are penalized to look for even more opportunities to reduce their Indian footprint (through less # of births, postponement of beginning family, emigration) which brings their community influence down even further making them an easier target and the vicious cycle continues without interruption.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 27 May 2021 22:32

chetak wrote:
Twitter’s statement is an attempt to dictate its terms to the world’s largest democracy. Through its actions and deliberate defiance, Twitter seeks to undermine India’s legal system: Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology pic.twitter.com/WyGumYToYv
via@ANI, May 27, 2021

Didn't GOI gave a similar statement a few months back? And now they have issued another statement. I hope the next time they issue statement after taking solid action.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 22:32

S_Madhukar wrote:Unfortunately darshannji we missed out on 3 other strategic achievements that we must strive for

1. A fully educated population - so that people can think fearlessly and independently
2. A legal system- people, frameworks, bureaucracy and institutions that understand, obey and implement laws impartially - so that corrupt people and politicians can be held, prosecuted and made examples of. Public shaming is of no use as we have plenty of shameless people
3. National/State vision and goal - at least progress could be measured unlike anyone selling any false hopes and taking false credits

Looking at some of the younger generation I hear on YT I have higher hope for the future and economic growth will help drive that. But my worry is that the ones that are left behind will be just that

Totally agree with you. Our literacy rate is still poor. Furthermore for even the literate percentage of population, the quality of education is extremely poor in terms of all aspects whether it is career or vocational skills, critical thinking skills, second order thinking, STEM r&d, warrior capabilities or most importantly Civilizational Aspirations and Dharmic foundations.

Legal system is simply a continuation of the colonial system. As far our judiciary is concerned, less said the better.

Your third point is most interesting. We do not have any Grand Narrative or a Civilizational Quest for our nation. We have confused Social Justice and Secularism for our Grand Narrative, which will continue to pull us back by exacerbating the existing faultlines in our society and creating new ones. For example in North India previously religious strife was primarily bipolar i.e between Hindus and Islamics. Now due to shitshow continued since our so called independence, it is effectively a tripartite show, third party being Ambedkarites. A huge chunk of new generation Dalit youth in states like UP, Bihar etc identify with Ambedkar and Buddha as their chief deities and absolutely refuse to worship Hindu Devtas. They are also open to collaboration with islamics in order to undermine Hindus.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 27 May 2021 22:37

chetak wrote:The govt has stated that “protecting free speech in India” is the responsibility of the Indian government and not the prerogative of a private, for-profit, foreign entity like Twitter.

GoI needs to use the words relevant to the history. Start with colonialism and east India company. These tech companies are reincarnation of east India company and are here to colonize India and GoI needs to openly state this as Indian population can relate to it.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 27 May 2021 22:45

darshan wrote:
chetak wrote:The govt has stated that “protecting free speech in India” is the responsibility of the Indian government and not the prerogative of a private, for-profit, foreign entity like Twitter.
GoI needs to use the words relevant to the history. Start with colonialism and east India company. These tech companies are reincarnation of east India company and are here to colonize India and GoI needs to openly state this as Indian population can relate to it.

More relevant words in today's context have not been spoken. Thanks for putting it so succintly.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 27 May 2021 22:50

darshhan wrote: Your third point is most interesting. We do not have any Grand Narrative or a Civilizational Quest for our nation. We have confused Social Justice and Secularism for our Grand Narrative, which will continue to pull us back by exacerbating the existing faultlines in our society and creating new ones. For example in North India previously religious strife was primarily bipolar i.e between Hindus and Islamics. Now due to shitshow continued since our so called independence, it is effectively a tripartite show, third party being Ambedkarites. A huge chunk of new generation Dalit youth in states like UP, Bihar etc identify with Ambedkar and Buddha as their chief deities and absolutely refuse to worship Hindu Devtas. They are also open to collaboration with islamics in order to undermine Hindus.

^^^Even those social justice and secularism grand narratives are not even original. We have no original thought in this field AFAIK. Everything is borrowed from the Brits and Americans. It feels like whatever the American universities put out becomes the standard here. If they claim black is white and white is black, then white is black becomes the truth here.

Grand narrative and civilizational quest is one of the most important things a civilization can have. Jews had this and that is why they could carve out a Israel and revive a dead language like Hebrew. Chinese have their avenging their avenging the 100 year humiliation narrative and Japan has their regaining the glory of the empire narrative. What did we have for all this years? Why isn't there a goal for civilization best in all fields there is? Why are we happy being 2nd, 4th, 5th 6th etc in every conceivable field? Why do we need a kick in back to do things our way? Like in case of param or cryogenic engines. We need to be the best in the world, do it in our way and be light of enlightenment we were 1000 years ago.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 27 May 2021 23:28

High time Twitter is shown its place and aukat

Govt of India statement