It's the Russian equivalent of the Harpoon.ramana wrote:Uran missile? Russian?
Has been in service for 25+ years with the Navy.
It's the Russian equivalent of the Harpoon.ramana wrote:Uran missile? Russian?
Interestingly Uran’s where purchased because of Russia’s reluctance to sell Moskit (but they turned around and sold to China). Russia offered a longer range version of Uran (called Uranium but I don’t buy that was actual name) but had high asking price so we never pursued it. At that time they had AshM which all but abandoned “Oniks” which they offered for co development and rest is history.Aditya_V wrote:More like 30 years, Uran was the Navy primary anti ship missile till Brahmos came along, all the Delhi class were armed with Uran till thier upgrade, in the mid 90s even Australia used to harass our Delhi class DDG, our MPA took off with Tu142 in the mid 80s.
Maybe we don't have the Chinese numbers but our Nav6 has come leaps and bounds in the last 30 years and the sheer capability built up is bound to pay off in the next 20 years.
Far as I recall the Russians were willing to sell the Moskit but we couldn't afford the asking price and went with the cheaper Uran instead.John wrote: Interestingly Uran’s where purchased because of Russia’s reluctance to sell Moskit (but they turned around and sold to China).
Uran. Kh 35. NATO Codename 'Switchblade'ramana wrote:Uran missile? Russian?
Plus the Moskit is heavy and only 8 could be fitted on the Delhi class. In fact INS Delhi had blast shields installed for the Moskit, which were not installed on the Mysore and Mumbai. Uran is cheaper, much lighter and has a slightly longer range. Even the Kora class are equipped with 16 Uran missiles. The Russians old the Sovremenny class destroyers to china, which are armed with the Moskit missile.vonkabra wrote:Far as I recall the Russians were willing to sell the Moskit but we couldn't afford the asking price and went with the cheaper Uran instead.John wrote: Interestingly Uran’s where purchased because of Russia’s reluctance to sell Moskit (but they turned around and sold to China).
The Moskit is also supersonic and has a much larger warhead like the Brahmos. Would be a lot more difficult to intercept than the Uran and cause a lot more damage when it hits. There is supposedly an air launched Moskit (Kh-41) but I don't think they were ever operationalized on the Su-33.mody wrote: Plus the Moskit is heavy and only 8 could be fitted on the Delhi class. In fact INS Delhi had blast shields installed for the Moskit, which were not installed on the Mysore and Mumbai. Uran is cheaper, much lighter and has a slightly longer range. Even the Kora class are equipped with 16 Uran missiles. The Russians old the Sovremenny class destroyers to china, which are armed with the Moskit missile.
The IL-38s and Mig-29K are armed with air launched version of the Uran. No air launched version of the Moskit exists.
Yea looks like blast shields have been removed I believe the advantage of cold launch is that missile is ejected few meters (in inclined angle vs vertical angle for VLS launch) away from superstructure so it reduces the need for these deflectors.Rakesh wrote:I have seen those blast shields in person. They were massive. They must have been removed now with the BrahMos upgrade.
John, can you confirm?
Remember hearing mixed stories on why Moskit wasn’t acquired one was there wasn’t enough being supplied by Russia (came from stockpiles and there was concern with fall they may not be able to build more). Other was Russia refused to sell it. Interestingly Russia offered a Frigate with Uran (think it was an export design called Delta don’t quote me on it ) but we turned it down and Russia came back with modified Krivak III with Klub with latter helping clinch the deal. So we ended up acquiring two AshM.mody wrote:Plus the Moskit is heavy and only 8 could be fitted on the Delhi class. In fact INS Delhi had blast shields installed for the Moskit, which were not installed on the Mysore and Mumbai. Uran is cheaper, much lighter and has a slightly longer range. Even the Kora class are equipped with 16 Uran missiles. The Russians old the Sovremenny class destroyers to china, which are armed with the Moskit missile.vonkabra wrote:
Far as I recall the Russians were willing to sell the Moskit but we couldn't afford the asking price and went with the cheaper Uran instead.
The IL-38s and Mig-29K are armed with air launched version of the Uran. No air launched version of the Moskit exists.
Kersi D wrote:Uran. Kh 35. NATO Codename 'Switchblade'ramana wrote:Uran missile? Russian?
THANKSramana wrote:Kersi D wrote: Uran. Kh 35. NATO Codename 'Switchblade'
If my question brought Kersi D from lurk mode it was worth it!!!
How have you been?
You should participate more.
That is my first guess too. We are looking at cannon/gun launched missiles.srin wrote:And, gun launched missile for a future 105mm light tank, akin to Falarick missile.
What would be the typical time to reload a launcher with this vehicle?Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... HYXCJFZzzA ---> Akash missile transportation vehicle.
Reload time has very little bearing on saturation attacks. Counter to them is mostly determined by the magazine of ready to launch rounds you have, your sensor/shooter orientation and readiness etc. Even the most automated full launcher reload systems take 15-25 minutes to fully load the magazine assuming that the reloads have been fully built beforehand. This is clearly not going to help with a saturated attack. Ability to quickly reload does however have an impact of how many waves of attacks you can deter particularly for systems with longer ranges that are defending a large area as there could be multiple targets in their defended area that are attacked at different times.YashG wrote:What would be the typical time to reload a launcher with this vehicle?Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/DefenceDecode/statu ... HYXCJFZzzA ---> Akash missile transportation vehicle.
Will be important parameter to assess how much a Akash launcher foil saturation attacks.
Indranil wrote:I think there is an ATGM with 105mm diameter in the making.
We have seen this seeker with a lens diameter of 100mm before.
Now, there is a tender for missile with 4 canted nozzles (like in Nag) and a diameter of 103 mm.
A: Hey I'm feeling bored today, lets go for a drive.Aditya_V wrote:Another day, another Brahmos Test
1. The air ducts make hard/ impossible to add a rocket plug.fanne wrote:My question to the learned gurus - One way to increase Brahmos is to add a larger solid (or liquid) fuel ballistic missile plug. It first goes a long distance on that and then the Brahmos ramjet takes over and lugs itself to the next 300-600 Km. But if you make the ballistic plug big, it also increases speed of the missile (along with range), maybe going beyond the ramjet speed regime to the hypersonic regime. Does that puts a theoretical limit on how big the missile can be made (and hence how long can it go)?
Are there boosters that add distance but not speed?
Russian Onyk has already been updated to 700 km it is similar in dimension but the main change is the new solid booster and likely some tweaks to improve efficiency of ramjet engine.Haridas wrote:1. The air ducts make hard/ impossible to add a rocket plug.fanne wrote:My question to the learned gurus - One way to increase Brahmos is to add a larger solid (or liquid) fuel ballistic missile plug. It first goes a long distance on that and then the Brahmos ramjet takes over and lugs itself to the next 300-600 Km. But if you make the ballistic plug big, it also increases speed of the missile (along with range), maybe going beyond the ramjet speed regime to the hypersonic regime. Does that puts a theoretical limit on how big the missile can be made (and hence how long can it go)?
Are there boosters that add distance but not speed?
2. Even if rocket motor added for Ballistic mode will invariably increase maximum speed heating on the airframe, thus aluminum alloy need change-up to much expensive material and mfg process.
Imho range increase needs
A. lengthening (to increase fuel capacity)
and/or
B. Airframe weight reduction, optimization by knowing where to reduce. Where possibly use lighter material. E.g. fins & wing, mid body where fuel tank is absorbing heat.....
Has it been confirmed?ramana wrote:800 km.
#AreaWarning #India issues a notification for the launch of an experimental flight vehicle over the #BayOfBengal, included in the danger zone is Abdul Kalam Island - the probable launch site
There is a program to develop an IR guided AAM, based on Astra. On BR it is referred to as Astra-IR. Don't know if there is a different official name.Kersi D wrote:Infra Red guided air-to-air missile
Does DRDO have any program to develop IR guided AAMs ? I have not heard of any
IMVHO it should not be too difficult to design and make a IR AAM since we have already done a lot of work on radar guided Astra, which i believe in much more complex
Kersi
Yes, Astra-IR already in development.Kersi D wrote:Infra Red guided air-to-air missile
Does DRDO have any program to develop IR guided AAMs ? I have not heard of any
IMVHO it should not be too difficult to design and make a IR AAM since we have already done a lot of work on radar guided Astra, which i believe in much more complex
Kersi