Cyrano wrote:Rakesh saar
Please put a "Highly infectious Brochuritis Pathogen" hazard warning before posting such stuff
But you have to admit that it's very attractive pathogen.
Cyrano wrote:Rakesh saar
Please put a "Highly infectious Brochuritis Pathogen" hazard warning before posting such stuff
No Rsatchi.Rsatchi wrote:Different Turret options???
Will that turn out like MCIWS type running around the orchard and singing a duet!!
No I am not saying that. What if the turret is designed such that the designer consider the option of different caliber main guns - almost like plug ins. There will have to be some mods to the loading mechanism etc but doable.Pratyush wrote:With a crew less turret, it might just work.
But the IA is not asking for multiple options in terms of guns. That is what is worrying about the program.
Second, if we go for a bigger gun. How do we know that the army will not turn arround and say that the vehicle is not protected against its own guns.
I know that I am over thinking about the matter. But given how the army has acted over other programs. I don't have a lot of faith.
Sure that maybe true but IA GSQR keeps changing as many times as the Congi Ex Home Minister used to change his Bandgala Suitks_sachin wrote:No Rsatchi.Rsatchi wrote:Different Turret options???
Will that turn out like MCIWS type running around the orchard and singing a duet!!
A MCIWS is different to a ICV turret is different to a Tank turret.
prog.
ok. lets not attempt a crewless turretRsatchi wrote:Sure that maybe true but IA GSQR keeps changing as many times as the Congi Ex Home Minister used to change his Bandgala Suitks_sachin wrote:
No Rsatchi.
A MCIWS is different to a ICV turret is different to a Tank turret.
prog.
Who knows there maybe a need for Moonlanding capability and firing excercise on the ‘Dark side of Moon’
in a Twin Turbo era CRDVE come up with Single Turbo that too in a "V" engine, sigh! just call Tata they have 600 HP twin turbo in line 4 DOHC engines in their stable.jaysimha wrote:CVRDE 600hp engine (DRDO)
My understanding is that for NBC protection the air filters scrubber clean the air and then maintain an overpressure inside the cabin so that no air from outside can leak inside the cabin once over pressure is achieved.Pratyush wrote:The windows on the sides of vehicle along with the firing ports. Do they lend the vehicle for operation in NBC environment?
Or I am overthinking about things.
What's wrong with crew less turret?ks_sachin wrote:ok. lets not attempt a crewless turretRsatchi wrote: Sure that maybe true but IA GSQR keeps changing as many times as the Congi Ex Home Minister used to change his Bandgala Suit
Who knows there maybe a need for Moonlanding capability and firing excercise on the ‘Dark side of Moon’
Trial established ATGM’s capability to engage targets from minimum to maximum range. The indigenously developed laser-guided Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) was successfully test-fired from Main Battle Tank (MBT) Arjun by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and the Army at the Karakoram range on Tuesday. “In the test, the ATGM hit the bull’s eye with textbook precision and successfully defeated the target at minimum ranges. Telemetry systems recorded the satisfactory flight performance of the missile,” a Defence Ministry statement said.
Indigenously developed Laser Guided ATGM was successfully tested today from MBT Arjun. Missile hit the bull's eye with textbook precision. Trial has established the ATGMs capability to engage targets from min to max ranges.
The test was conducted with the support of the Armoured Corps Centre & School, Ahmednagar. The all-indigenous ATGM employs a tandem High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) warhead to defeat Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) protected armoured vehicles, the DRDO said. The ATGM has been developed with multi-platform launch capability and is currently undergoing technical evaluation trials from 120 mm rifled gun of MBT Arjun, it stated.
Stating that engaging the targets at lower ranges is a challenge due to the dimensional constraints of tank launched ATGMs, the statement said it has been successfully accomplished by the ATGM for MBT Arjun.
“With the trial, the ATGM’s capability to engage targets from minimum to maximum range has been established. Earlier the trials have been successful for maximum range,” the statement said. Secretary, Department of Defence (R&D), and Chairman, DRDO, G. Satheesh Reddy, said the successful development of laser guided ATGM will enhance the fire power of MBT Arjun.
The worry from some posters is that the Army will change its GSQRs like how politicians change their suits etc...So was being sarcastic.John wrote:What's wrong with crew less turret?ks_sachin wrote:
ok. lets not attempt a crewless turret
What’s wrong with a single turbo again? If two is better, why not 3 or 4 turbos? They would be 3 to 4 times better..no?niran wrote:in a Twin Turbo era CRDVE come up with Single Turbo that too in a "V" engine, sigh! just call Tata they have 600 HP twin turbo in line 4 DOHC engines in their stable.jaysimha wrote:CVRDE 600hp engine (DRDO)
YES, Arjun can deal with most modern tanks.Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... S89_r8-Dew ---> The Arjun can now deal with most modern tanks (unless APS/countermeasure equipped). Missile can fight this by using non line of sight trajectories (or even hit a target behind an obstruction) with a third party laser designator (another tank, UAV, troops). Truly lethal.
Wanted to ask the same question to get more insight into it. Googled it and looks like single big turbo has more lag than two smaller turbos due to inertia but is able to provide a bigger boost to horse power. Twin smaller turbos are preferred where minimum lag is desired and real-estate is an issue (turbo housing and associated plumbing) like commuter cars but the power output is lesser than single big turbo. Drag cars use single turbo since spooling up is not an issue as they are already pushing their engines before the start.pravula wrote:What’s wrong with a single turbo again? If two is better, why not 3 or 4 turbos? They would be 3 to 4 times better..no?niran wrote: in a Twin Turbo era CRDVE come up with Single Turbo that too in a "V" engine, sigh! just call Tata they have 600 HP twin turbo in line 4 DOHC engines in their stable.
That’s accurate. With twin, you can either make them serial or parallel, different sizes, etc. But it’s an engineering decision based on performance requirements. Saying Tata has an I4 with tt is well…neerajb wrote:Wanted to ask the same question to get more insight into it. Googled it and looks like single big turbo has more lag than two smaller turbos due to inertia but is able to provide a bigger boost to horse power. Twin smaller turbos are preferred where minimum lag is desired and real-estate is an issue (turbo housing and associated plumbing) like commuter cars but the power output is lesser than single big turbo. Drag cars use single turbo since spooling up is not an issue as they are already pushing their engines before the start.pravula wrote:
What’s wrong with a single turbo again? If two is better, why not 3 or 4 turbos? They would be 3 to 4 times better..no?
If it meets modern tanks in battle.Kersi D wrote:YES, Arjun can deal with most modern tanks.Rakesh wrote: https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... S89_r8-Dew ---> The Arjun can now deal with most modern tanks (unless APS/countermeasure equipped). Missile can fight this by using non line of sight trajectories (or even hit a target behind an obstruction) with a third party laser designator (another tank, UAV, troops). Truly lethal.
But can Arjun deal with the idiosyncrasies of Indian bureaucracy?
Good question, because the next attack on Arjun will come with a statement that the main gun is not a 120 mm smooth bore. Therefore, it will not be able to kill enemy tanks with KE rounds.Kersi D wrote:
YES, Arjun can deal with most modern tanks.
But can Arjun deal with the idiosyncrasies of Indian bureaucracy?
https://twitter.com/Firezstarter1/statu ... 6cXO2DPX9A ---> The Arjun is far more capable than the T-72 ammo wise, and in other parameters as well for both types. And they will hence likely form an armored spearhead, attached to either IABs or RAPIDs - won't sit around. So tip of the spear in desert.ks_sachin wrote: If it meets modern tanks in battle.
If it is used as a spearhead.
Arjun Regiments form part of Jaisalmer based armored brigade of 12 RAPID. So, rest assured, these will be most likely the amongst the first mechanized formations to go into Pakistan and heat of the battle. Let's wait and watch where the other two regiments are placed. Most likely in desert to keep all of them together for logistic reason.ks_sachin wrote:If it meets modern tanks in battle.Kersi D wrote: YES, Arjun can deal with most modern tanks.
But can Arjun deal with the idiosyncrasies of Indian bureaucracy?
If it is used as a spearhead.
rohitvats wrote:Arjun Regiments form part of Jaisalmer based armored brigade of 12 RAPID. So, rest assured, these will be most likely the amongst the first mechanized formations to go into Pakistan and heat of the battle. Let's wait and watch where the other two regiments are placed. Most likely in desert to keep all of them together for logistic reason.ks_sachin wrote: If it meets modern tanks in battle.
If it is used as a spearhead.
I could be very wrong, however, it seems Firezstarter may be Karan M' s Twitter handle. Guessing only. In one of his tweets Indranil mentioned that he has been asking Firezstarter to write articles and for first time he wrote a rebuttal against an article favoring bunder over Tejas.ks_sachin wrote:
Who is the firezstarter?
He says Arjun ammo is far more effective than t72 but then it should be more effective than the t90 as well yes.
JMT