2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2023 21:05

this is what the congis tweeted and hastily deleted after realising that the Janeu worn by the kid is on the wrong shoulder.

and if pappu were to try anymore of his luv and kissing, the pissed off kid looks more than capable of punching him out

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2023 21:16

Shankar Mishra, the air India urinator, who urinated on a woman mid air while on Air India JFK-DEL flight was Vice President of the American financial services company Wells Fargo and it looks like he has quite literally pissed away his job

unemployment is increasing onlee and the Mudi should rejine

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2023 21:50

Scathing indictment of @airindiain and their terrible handling of the urinating incident on board their flight. Read the victim’s full statement here:

WhatsApp chat showing how Shankar Mishra also tried buy his way out of the #AirIndia urinating matter.

"Dear Ma'am, Rs. 10,000/- payment.....":

@DEKAMEGHNA shares details of the chat

Victim's daughter returned the accused's money.

and best of all,

shankar mishra's father Adv shayam mishra defends his son, says 'full facts are not out'

urinator's lawyer lady says that there is no witness to the incident and it is increasing looking like the final defence will settle on "shankar mishra has never peed in his entire life and thus proven pee-less is also entirely blameless"

If air India has not illegally tampered with the crime scene, DNA test will confirm the urinator's identity

increasingly, it is beginning to look like the urinator is connected with some influential powers as he is still not traceable

all airlines in India should impose, at the very minimum, a lifetime ban on him.

and the cops from dilli, bombay and bangalore are on the lookout for him but the pisser is untraceable which is unbelievable

BTW, a similar incident had again occurred on an @ir India paris - mumbai flight 142 on 06 dec, about 10 days after this incident.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 779050.cms

per twitter and WA, the new slogan of @ir India says "welcome to a pissful flight"

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 06 Jan 2023 22:18

chetak wrote:Janeu worn by the kid is on the wrong shoulder.

Sir
Maybe the kid is getting ready to perform Thithi of Grand Old Party no

Its called Prachinavidhi

I think (to put the cross thread on the other shoulder).
Done during Aparakarma(meaning during thithi I think)

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 06 Jan 2023 22:31

Yes that's what it's called, wearing yagnopavitham on right shoulder is only done while performing funeral rites or shraddha karmas. Fitting for Kangrez party.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 06 Jan 2023 22:40

Not sure why Air India should be liable and made to pay? They are not the ones who spoiled her luggage?

Yes the pilot should have showed more empathy and crew should not have brought the urinator and urinatee together, but why is AI liable? The urinator may have drink prior to boarding as well so facts are not clear…

Definitely lifetime ban for the urinator though…

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2023 22:41

this has what #AntiHinduCongress come to

wearing Janeu the way it is shown is only when performing last rites

making a child suffer the biting cold

this can't happen without orders & instructions of mama mia mafia & raul vinci and carried out by the congi organizers of the todo yatra

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 06 Jan 2023 22:51

Tanaji wrote:Not sure why Air India should be liable and made to pay? They are not the ones who spoiled her luggage?

Yes the pilot should have showed more empathy and crew should not have brought the urinator and urinatee together, but why is AI liable? The urinator may have drink prior to boarding as well so facts are not clear…

Definitely lifetime ban for the urinator though…

Ji, payment by Air India cannot be as a function of liability. Lets say if Air India by now had refunded her fare, paid a fee towards new clothes ands shoes and offered the passenger a part paid new ticket how would the optics look now? Excuse the pun but Air India would now be smelling of roses. Instead, to save a couple of thousand dollars, they have miserable PR sticking to them on EVERY news channel. Wow, what a saving!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jan 2023 23:03

Tanaji wrote:Not sure why Air India should be liable and made to pay? They are not the ones who spoiled her luggage?

Yes the pilot should have showed more empathy and crew should not have brought the urinator and urinatee together, but why is AI liable? The urinator may have drink prior to boarding as well so facts are not clear…

Definitely lifetime ban for the urinator though…

Tanaji saar,

if he was sozzled on arrival for the flight, why was he allowed to board

In any case, why was he given more drinks on the flight

the regulations say that an FIR on arrival is mandatory and there is no, repeat no option of private compromise before the FIR is lodged

this is the second pissing incident on the same airline in a matter of 10 odd days.

The airline's in-flight response and procedures in two international flight incidents are questionable and found wanting and that is why the airline is responsible.

why did the airline say it would refund the cost of the ticket....

was it a bribe to pre-empt and /or preclude legal action that is now following

that idiot pilot should have requested her to shift to the first class simply to keep her away from the pissing clown.

After all, the lady was, by some reports, about 72 years old and she deserved every consideration to ensure her safety and put her mind at rest. The crew did not handle the extremely traumatic situation with compassion and common sense that was called for

Instead, the crew deliberately allowed the pissing clown to again confront his victim face to face, allowing her peace of mind and her sense of safety to completely degrade, thus alarming her further.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 06 Jan 2023 23:03

It's a question of staff training and empowerment when dealing with customer issues. Recent exPSU Air India staff's behaviour is no surprise. Imagine if the victim was a Sr Babu/MP or minister. How would the staff have behaved?

Airlines are liable for unruly conduct of a passenger especially if they served him drinks and in any case for failing to prevent the incident which caused serious distress to fellow passenger. Their behaviour and decisions post incident are truly unprofessional and shameful.

The offending passenger of course remains accountable for his act under relevant national and international laws.

I shudder to think such incident could have happened to my mom. I've put her on AI biz flights a couple of times alone - which she is perfectly capable of managing in normal circumstances.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 07 Jan 2023 00:22

I stand corrected, one learns everyday. Thanks.

I think at least some Indians still have the attitude that once they pay for any service, they are the masters and others be damned. We may not be as bad as the Chinese but some need to have more empathy and common courtesy.

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 07 Jan 2023 00:51

My general mental model is Indians in India are generally rude to others. Only power is respected. People dont show kindness and go into CYA mode at any hint of perceived trouble.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 07 Jan 2023 01:36

^^ I travel on Air India they seem to be the only airline that hand out entire bottle of wine to customers. The bottles are small but contain more than one pour for sure. I've seen folks start drinking from bottle as soon as the flight departs and get inebriated within an hour.

Most other airlines just give a single pour from a single bottle. Also, some passengers are downright rude to the staff. Some times I feel like I'm traveling in Punjab roadways bus going to a Khalistan rally in pind.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 07 Jan 2023 02:06

Tanaji wrote:Not sure why Air India should be liable and made to pay? They are not the ones who spoiled her luggage?

Yes the pilot should have showed more empathy and crew should not have brought the urinator and urinatee together, but why is AI liable? The urinator may have drink prior to boarding as well so facts are not clear…

Definitely lifetime ban for the urinator though…

This is an interesting one. In Australia, people serving alcohol have to compulsorily undergo a RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) course and trained in, among others, detecting inebriated passengers and handling such situations.

What if, instead of peeing, in a inebriated state, this low life had tried to open the emergency exit endangering flight safety?

I am quite sure if this happened in any other top tier airline, this guy would have been restrained in the last seat in economy for the remainder of this flight, police would have "stormed" the plane immediately on landing and he would be first off the plane dragged away in hand cuffs.

The crew would have been extremely sensitive to the poor woman and would have ensured there was no contact whatsoever between Peer baba and the lady for the rest of the flight. They would certainly have not tried to act as brokers and mediators

I wonder if there is secret hidden training course in AI where crew are trained to be insensitive and uncaring.

If this had happened while AI was still gobarmint owned, this would off course have been Mudi's fault an he would have had to rejjin.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 07 Jan 2023 02:11

Rsatchi wrote: Its called Prachinavidhi I think (to put the cross thread on the other shoulder).
Done during Aparakarma(meaning during thithi I think)

Indeed, it is called praachina vidhi. During aparakarma, one switches between left and right shoulders constantly depending on which of the three ancestors are being invoked.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 07 Jan 2023 02:18

V_Raman wrote:My general mental model is Indians in India are generally rude to others. Only power is respected. People dont show kindness and go into CYA mode at any hint of perceived trouble.

yes and the model seems to be by parents : beta dont worry, become a brat, money will fix everything. ergo do whatever you want and if the victim complains - "aree baba kyon itna tension lete ho - yeh lo paisa lelo aur chup ho jao" The level of charbi defies belief.

On a Indigo flight, someone usurped my window seat and instead of apologising and giving it back to me, stayed put and offered me money instead. He couldn't understand why I wouldn't take the money, His view was nothing untoward has happened here as he is offering to fix it by paying me money. The fact I was was unrelenting meant from now on it was purely my fault. He had absolved himself by offering to pay me.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 05:40

Tatas transforming Air India or NaMo transforming J&K - which will happen first? What are the odds?

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 07 Jan 2023 08:49

The Air India story is pretty sick, at many levels, but I do blame the staff for some of the BS that happened.

1. They could not offer the poor lady a different, first-class or a business seat away from the urine-soaked seat? Unbelievable.
2. They took the crazy guy back to the lady and so he could apologize and then tried to convince the lady to 'forgive him' and not press charges. (This has shades of talibanesque mentality here, the victim was being victimized again).
3. They should have had police/CISF meet the criminal at the jetway and escort him out. It was not up to the staff to decide otherwise (especially when the lady wanted this guy caught). Action was taken a week later, after she wrote a letter to AI CEO and it became a public matter.
4. I cannot believe the AI crew gave her phone number to him, but somehow the crazy nut got her phone number on board the flight. But if the AI staff gave it, they assisted a criminal and passed on the victim's phone number to him.

Bhartiya sanskar gives a special and uncondictional respect to older people. Here, it went in the opposite direction with the AI staff. Very puzzling, this behavior of AI staff.

Recently there was a fist-fight on a Bangkok-Delhi flight- Thai Airways. VIdeo online. No arrests were made. Passengers like that should expect to meet the police upon landing, otherwise it is free-for-all; and will happen again. Fist-fights or urination.

isubodh · Post by **isubodh** » 07 Jan 2023 10:40

SriKumar wrote:The Air India story is pretty sick, at many levels, but I do blame the staff for some of the BS that happened.

1. They could not offer the poor lady a different, first-class or a business seat away from the urine-soaked seat? Unbelievable.
2. They took the crazy guy back to the lady and so he could apologize and then tried to convince the lady to 'forgive him' and not press charges. (This has shades of talibanesque mentality here, the victim was being victimized again).
3. They should have had police/CISF meet the criminal at the jetway and escort him out. It was not up to the staff to decide otherwise (especially when the lady wanted this guy caught). Action was taken a week later, after she wrote a letter to AI CEO and it became a public matter.
4. I cannot believe the AI crew gave her phone number to him, but somehow the crazy nut got her phone number on board the flight. But if the AI staff gave it, they assisted a criminal and passed on the victim's phone number to him.

Bhartiya sanskar gives a special and uncondictional respect to older people. Here, it went in the opposite direction with the AI staff. Very puzzling, this behavior of AI staff.

Recently there was a fist-fight on a Bangkok-Delhi flight- Thai Airways. VIdeo online. No arrests were made. Passengers like that should expect to meet the police upon landing, otherwise it is free-for-all; and will happen again. Fist-fights or urination.

On the other hand, what kind of charges be brought against him ? I doubt any strong charge will stand in court.
What is the maximum punishment for those ?

Public naming and shaming is the worst that could have happened and that has happened with his name out.

Also can he be legally fired for this from his job ?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Jan 2023 10:48

chetak wrote:this is what the congis tweeted and hastily deleted after realising that the Janeu worn by the kid is on the wrong shoulder.

and if pappu were to try anymore of his luv and kissing, the pissed off kid looks more than capable of punching him out

For this who don't know, Janeu is worn like this only when performing funeral rites and Amavasya rituals for Ancestors. Perhaps the boy was signifying something afterall

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 07 Jan 2023 12:07

Our 'pillars' have strong family values..

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 07 Jan 2023 13:19

isubodh wrote:
On the other hand, what kind of charges be brought against him ? I doubt any strong charge will stand in court.
What is the maximum punishment for those ?

Not sure what your point is but then I think you are missing the point of my post. There was a lot that the AI crew could have done differently starting with points 1, 2 and 4 I made. Also please read chetak's post for atleast two more points.

It is beyond shameful that they brought him back to face her, and the poor lady made the point in her letter clearly. I wonder what training and/or sanskar guided this staff. As far as punishment is concerned, a plane/airport is an industrial setting (hence CISF to check forairport security) and there are any number of laws that govern the safety of people. People not complying with instructions have to be dealt with, either on the plane or on the ground, depending on situation.

At a minimum, having the CISF/police take him in for interrogation to get details on the case, and determine his movements/residences/location once he is in India, should have been done. Instead he was just allowed to walk scot-free. This is a good indication to other passengers who may have an inclination to urinate in future, or create some other kind of disturbance.

If you are genuinely asking what the courts can do, well... police teams are now looking for him in different cities, and he is on the run/missing. Perhpas the police (and probably the criminal as well) know something about what legal action that can be taken, that we don't.

Public naming and shaming is the worst that could have happened and that has happened with his name out.

Ah well......I am not as confident as you are that this will happen in all, or even most, cases of disturbance and/or criminal activity on a plane. I just dont know how many cases of sexual groping, harrassment, fisticuffs, beatings, slappings that have happened and never got discussed on national TV/generated outrage. Perhaps most of such cases do actually get discussed on national TV and the perpetarators have been named/shamed.

Also can he be legally fired for this from his job ?

Please ask this of Wells Fargo. I have clear opinions on this, but my opinions are not facts.

nandakumar · Post by **nandakumar** » 07 Jan 2023 13:21

I am not greatly experienced in long duration international travel. Nor have I been inebriated beyond being mildly tipsy. People do get drunk and do really silly things. But I am astonished that somebody could have been so sozzled to the point that he has no idea about what he is doing and no conception of where he is as this Air India passenger appears to have been.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 13:27

AI pisser's father claiming in the press that it's all fake accusations on his son 34yrs old who has a 18 yr old daughter... That explains lack of sanskaar and respect towards elders.

With such behaviour, attempts to bribe, absconding etc, they are only getting farther away from being given benefit of doubt. If the pisser said he had one too many, was was unable to hold on when the urge came, got up to go to the loo but it was too late and his biology did the rest, out of his voluntary control....
Then he could hope for some understanding.

If he had then offered his seat to the victim along with an unconditional apology the matter could have died down.

The fact that he didn't do any of that indicates he was way too sloshed and in stupor for a few hrs. Which then also points to the airline's fault.

Male birather log, if ever you find yourself in such an urgent situation, grab a bottle of water, drink it or empty it, cover youself with a blanket or jacket and discharge carefully into the bottle and put the lid on it.
Happened to me on a slow train in Europe, had a pint and some good wine with clients over lunch, got on the Limoges-Paris train back to base, and promptly dozed off, woke up couple of hrs later with bladder full, found 3 toilets blocked and a 4th unusable, the train's jolting didn't help, had > 1 hr to reach destination. The train was half full . I moved to a row with no neighbours and did what I suggested above. No one noticed, no damage to self or around. Phew! But the important part is, at no point I was totally drunk and that saved me. Bad idea anyways to travel drunk - multiplies 10x risks to self and others. And 1000x in case of an emergency/accident/evacuation etc.
And to any guy arguing pissing is a biological need etc ask him "so how do women manage all the time, every where on the planet?"

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Jan 2023 13:34

Manish_P wrote:Our 'pillars' have strong family values..

Thanks, this is probably a reason why large sections of GOI have been compromised.

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 07 Jan 2023 13:38

The American edu system is their single biggest advantage- from grade school to phd - unparalleled in human history IMO - not at this scale atleast.

The have applied their MIC philosophy to it - it needs constant supply of paying students and there are enough willing accomplices

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 07 Jan 2023 13:39

Cyrano wrote: And to any guy arguing pissing is a biological need etc ask him "so how do women manage all the time, every where on the planet?"

Cyrano garu...the question you asked above was famously asked on BRF by another poster shiv (predates you by years) on the topic of public urination that one sees. IIRC, he actually asked this of a man urinating on his compound wall, but instead of asking the pisser generically 'how do women manage', he asked the man with a reference made to his mother...

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 13:42

Inimitable shiv saar !! I was a lurker while he was active here. I sometimes watch his yt vids.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 13:47

On this topic there is a plausible response in evolutionary behavioural anthropology. Male territory marking instinct vs female oestrous (non) signalling. But anyone making that argument is admitting he is still an ape!

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 07 Jan 2023 13:57

V_Raman wrote:The American edu system is their single biggest advantage- from grade school to phd - unparalleled in human history IMO - not at this scale atleast.

The have applied their MIC philosophy to it - it needs constant supply of paying students and there are enough willing accomplices

err their public schools are woefully underfunded. Teachers have to beg parents to provide supplies for students. It's the Chinese and India students who shine thanks to their parent's hard work and having studied in taxpayer funded systems in their home country.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 13:57

V_Raman wrote:The American edu system is their single biggest advantage- from grade school to phd - unparalleled in human history IMO - not at this scale atleast.

The have applied their MIC philosophy to it - it needs constant supply of paying students and there are enough willing accomplices

The lefty woke brigade has taken care of that in humanities, STEM under assault now.

But it's not just education, but the highly pleasurable hassle free daily lifestyle with good infra, no pervasive corruption, reasonably safe, cheap credit driven consumerism, dynamic job market at nearly every level - the combination of all these makes the US phenomenally irresistible to most outsiders. I'm betting the Climate change brigade will take care of that in a decade or two...

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Jan 2023 14:05

SriKumar wrote:
Also can he be legally fired for this from his job ?
Please ask this of Wells Fargo. I have clear opinions on this, but my opinions are not facts.

SriKumar ji,

this is a moot point

Wells Fargo, in a written media statement dated 06 jan '23 and also made public, has terminated his services, period

that media statement has been posted here and you can check it out :viewtopic.php?p=2574477#p2574477

ameriki companies are extremely conscious of litigations and among other things, have standard clauses for moral turpitude.

this pisser would have been terminated with cause and without any severance benefits or even references and as far as Wells Fargo is concerned, this guy is done and dusted.

Print, social and electronic media have all named and shamed him and he has already been arrested from bangalore by the dilli polis and as stated above, this guy is truly done and dusted.

furthermore: https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/pe ... 46372.html

A resident of Mumbai, Mishra is known as Suraj in Kamgar Nagar where he has been staying for the past two decades, according to reports in the media.

On his LinkedIn profile he goes by ‘Suraj M’, reports Newroompost. He is reportedly an alumnus of SVKM’s Narsee Monjee Institute of Management Studies (NMIMS), a well-known college in Mumbai.

A case was registered against Mishra under sections 294 (obscene act in public place), 354 (assault or criminal force to woman with intent to outrage her modesty), 509 (word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman) and 510 (misconduct in public by a drunken person) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) as well as under Aircraft Rules.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 07 Jan 2023 14:25

So Xtian values of repentance, punishment, reparation, forgiveness etc are totally passé ? How can someone be fired for an act in private life that has nothing to do with the company? The same Wells Fargo distinguished itself in Subprime crisis of 2008 didn't it? And had to be bailed out by Fed Govt ie printing press ie the whole world ie you and me - wasn't it? And who got fired, tried, jailed for that? Those were far bigger crimes than pissing on a hapless old woman in a drunk state, however disgusting it is. This American instant justice is cheap posturing lest anyone lift their hood and look inside.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 07 Jan 2023 14:31

isubodh wrote:
SriKumar wrote:

Also can he be legally fired for this from his job ?

Sir
I dont know the law about Exposing one self in Public in India
But if I am not mistaken in west it amounts to sex offence isnt it??
Dont they go the sexual offender's list!
If that is same in India that it should carry some sentencing (even if its suspended sentence), a fine and name added to the offender's list
And that should get you fired either Public sector or Private company unless one is the MD/CEO/Chairman

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 07 Jan 2023 14:43

Cyrano wrote:So Xtian values of repentance, punishment, reparation, forgiveness etc are totally passé ? How can someone be fired for an act in private life that has nothing to do with the company? The same Wells Fargo distinguished itself in Subprime crisis of 2008 didn't it? And had to be bailed out by Fed Govt ie printing press ie the whole world ie you and me - wasn't it? And who got fired, tried, jailed for that? Those were far bigger crimes than pissing on a hapless old woman in a drunk state, however disgusting it is. This American instant justice is cheap posturing lest anyone lift their hood and look inside.

Cyrano ji,

The pisser was travelling on company business and on a company paid ticket. He was thus officially on duty. By his actions alone, he was solely responsible for his company's name being dragged through the mud.

Besides he has been charged under sections 294 (obscene act in public place), 354 (assault or criminal force to woman with intent to outrage her modesty), 509 (word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman) and 510 (misconduct in public by a drunken person) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) as well as under the Aircraft Rules.

It's highly unlikely that he will walk away from this fiasco unscathed. With such an enormous amount of bad publicity, the pisser is already a goner, a dead duck...

one thinks that the company had just cause to terminate him.

BTW, there was never any room for a "compromise" because in all such cases an FIR is MANDATORY, per existing regulations.

The crew erred grievously in even attempting to effect such a "compromise".

The major fault lies with the captain who was hiding in the cockpit and idiotically left the unholy mess to be dealt with by a bunch of inexperienced young ladies.

vimal · Post by **vimal** » 07 Jan 2023 14:53

Was watching Iranian travel vlog and was surprised to to see how clean and well developed Iranian infrastructure is. There is no trash , pot holes and beggars like in India. Roads and rails are clean and wide. Buses are top notch and cheap.

It really hurts to see even sanctioned country with so much better infra while Indian political class loot and played secular games at a massive scale. No wonder nobody takes India seriously.

isubodh · Post by **isubodh** » 07 Jan 2023 15:22

Rsatchi wrote:
isubodh wrote:

Also can he be legally fired for this from his job ?
Sir
I dont know the law about Exposing one self in Public in India
But if I am not mistaken in west it amounts to sex offence isnt it??
Dont they go the sexual offender's list!
If that is same in India that it should carry some sentencing (even if its suspended sentence), a fine and name added to the offender's list
And that should get you fired either Public sector or Private company unless one is the MD/CEO/Chairman

So any wardrobe malfunction or some kind of naked protest would be in same category.

What you do with hundreds if not thousands of people relieving on road side or rail tracks

Enforcement force needed

arvin · Post by **arvin** » 07 Jan 2023 15:25

Aditya_V wrote:
chetak wrote:this is what the congis tweeted and hastily deleted after realising that the Janeu worn by the kid is on the wrong shoulder.

and if pappu were to try anymore of his luv and kissing, the pissed off kid looks more than capable of punching him out
For this who don't know, Janeu is worn like this only when performing funeral rites and Amavasya rituals for Ancestors. Perhaps the boy was signifying something afterall

Sick Congressi mind at work.
BJ Tour will end on 30th Jan in Srinagar on death anniversary of MG. The pic was intentionally put to amplify the caste connection to the date.
The guy has already violated security protocols multiple times. Why was this joker allowed to travel this far.

isubodh · Post by **isubodh** » 07 Jan 2023 15:41

The pisser was travelling on company business and on a company paid ticket. He was thus officially on duty. By his actions alone, he was solely responsible for his company's name being dragged through the mud.

If he was on company business by just firing post action can the company absolve itself.
The company is then fully responsible for his actions.

This incident is despicable, but not harmful. Would anyone travelling to office in car killing someone in accident make company responsible Or suitable for firing

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 07 Jan 2023 16:16

isubodh wrote:
The pisser was travelling on company business and on a company paid ticket. He was thus officially on duty. By his actions alone, he was solely responsible for his company's name being dragged through the mud.
If he was on company business by just firing post action can the company absolve itself.
The company is then fully responsible for his actions.

This incident is despicable, but not harmful. Would anyone travelling to office in car killing someone in accident make company responsible Or suitable for firing

Absolutely, especially if he intentionally mounted a pavement and ran over an old lady on purpose in a company car.