Terroristan - March 31, 2022

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Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP
ISLAMABAD: The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.

This was revealed at the meeting of the Central Apex Committee, which met on Friday to discuss the recent surge in terrorist attacks in the country and other security matters.
The sources said the apex committee was informed that the Afghan interim government proposed a plan to control the banned outfit. The proposal envisages disarming the TTP fighters and their relocation from the Pak-Afghan border areas. However, the Afghan government asked Pakistan to fund the proposal and bear the cost of rehabilitation of the TTP.

The meeting was informed that the Afghan Taliban made a similar proposal to China to address its concerns on the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

However, Pakistan has yet to respond to the Afghan Taliban’s idea as there is skepticism that it might not work.

Nevertheless, it was for the first time that the Afghan Taliban came up with the idea to disarm the TTP.

Earlier, the interim Afghan government encouraged Pakistan to negotiate a peace deal with the TTP, something that backfired.
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Dilbu wrote: Pakistan is also working on a contingency plan. The sense is that Pakistan is preparing for the worst. In case the Afghan Taliban fail to address our concerns, there is a possibility of cross-border strikes targeting the TTP sanctuaries. Pakistan did carry out such strikes once in April last to put pressure on the Afghan Taliban, though it never publicly owned those raids. This may be the policy going forward — targeting the TTP hideouts across the border without publicly acknowledging it.
This sounds like a music to my ears Bhai!!

This means more attacks in Karachi, Islamabad and Rawalpindi!!!

I hope one or two retd. Brigade or higher level officers are killed in the upcoming attacks by the TTP. Officers that support Sharif and Zardari gang, so that Pak military division becomes more open!!
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Dilbu wrote:Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP
ISLAMABAD: The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.


Earlier, the interim Afghan government encouraged Pakistan to negotiate a peace deal with the TTP, something that backfired.
Is the Af taliban trying to do a paki on Pakistan, by "promising to control terror " for monies
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VishnuS wrote:...
This sounds like a music to my ears Bhai!!

This means more attacks in Karachi, Islamabad and Rawalpindi!!!

I hope one or two retd. Brigade or higher level officers are killed in the upcoming attacks by the TTP. Officers that support Sharif and Zardari gang, so that Pak military division becomes more open!!
There would also be need for some re-training camps for those afsarans who are on the other side...

Retired general arrested after FIR registered on charges of ‘inciting hatred against state institutions’
Defence analyst and Lieutenant General (retd) Amjad Shoaib was arrested on Monday after an Islamabad magistrate registered a case against him on charges of inciting the public against state institutions.

In the complaint, Magistrate Khan said that the retired general — in an interview on BOL TV show ‘Imran Khan Bol Kay Saath’ aired on Saturday — passed statements that “incited the government officials and opposition from performing their government and legal duties”.

The FIR quoted Shoaib as saying that the Jail Bharo court arrest movements could not produce the required outcomes because it was only the people who were bearing pain and agony in it, while “narcissist and shameless rulers sitting atop didn’t care the least about it”. The magistrate stated that the retired army officer had advised the PTI to “work out a strategy”. “For example, you can stop people from going to government offices in Islamabad,” the FIR quoted Shoaib as saying.
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VishnuS wrote:I hope one or two retd. Brigade or higher level officers are killed in the upcoming attacks by the TTP. Officers that support Sharif and Zardari gang, so that Pak military division becomes more open!!
Do not glorify violence. We are not calling for extra-judicial killings. We all understand what needs to happen, and what will happen, not because we are causing or helping anything to happen, but due to law of Karma which is that the monster you create will end up eating you. This monster may be a flawed ideology, a negative mindset, or a unit tasked to unleash violence. We want this site to remain legit and don't want 3-letter agencies going after everyone here, so let us be mindful of our choice of words to express our sentiments.
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Don't wish to provide a link but the articles title is

Is it time for Pakistan to return to the motherland?

It's in an Indian mainline newspaper! It reads

"However, we do need to use the current situation to India’s advantage, especially when it can help the Pakistani people as well. This is the perfect time to introduce the concept of ‘reunification’ and ‘coming back to motherland’, even though it may seem idealistic or far-fetched at this point."

Really, drones with drugs and arms all day long along the border, civilians being targeted regularly and we need to welcome these troglodytes to the motherland!
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Before Pakistan complains about terrorism to Afghanistan, they should remember that Afghanistan itself is victim of terrorism. In fact Afghanistan is the world biggest victim of terrorism.

If Pakistan has evidence that there are terrorists in Afghanistan, they should share the evidence through official channels so that Afghanistan can take action.

Unresolved issues like Durand line is radicalizing Afghanistan youth. Pakistan and Afghanistan should solve the issue and fight the real enemy, which is poverty and lack of education.
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^^
Also applicable in the case of Baluchistan.
Gunmen kill 4 miners in southwest Pakistan
Gunmen killed at least four miners and injured three others in southwest Pakistan on Monday, officials and local media reported.

The attack, the latest in a series of similar ambushes, occurred in the remote Harnai district of southwestern Balochistan province, a hub of coalmines located some 169 kilometers (105 miles) from the provincial capital Quetta.

Local broadcaster Dunya News, citing security officials, reported that four miners were killed and another three injured when a group of gunmen attacked the coalfield where they were working.

The attackers, the channel reported, also set at least 11 coalmines on fire.

No group claimed responsibility for the attack till this report was published, nonetheless, the ethnic Baloch separatists have long been involved in targeting coalminers across the mineral-rich province.
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Manish_P wrote:Inflation is really hit Pakistanis hard :((

'Bureaucrat's daughter received Rs 720 m in salaami at her wedding'
In a startling revelation, Defence Minister Khawaja Mohammad Asif has claimed that a Pakistani bureaucrat's daughter received Rs 720 million (USD $ 2.8 m) at her wedding in salaami—the tradition of parents, relatives and guests gifting money to the bride and groom.

The minister also claimed that a whopping Rs 1.2 billion (USD $ 4.6 m) were collected in salaami at the wedding of the first daughter of the same bureaucrat, who he said is a grade 21 public servant.
Hopefullly the bureaucrat would have 3-4 more daughters and he can get better rates in the future...
But... But is salami halal?
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Aldonkar wrote:...

But... But is salami halal?
Yes, of course it is halal.

Dehej which is hindu/brahmin/patriarchal is evil and haraam..... till the girl converts... whereupon it transforms into a quaint traditional custom.
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Manish_P wrote:
Aldonkar wrote:...

But... But is salami halal?
Yes, of course it is halal.

Dehej which is hindu/brahmin/patriarchal is evil and haraam..... till the girl converts... whereupon it transforms into a quaint traditional custom.
Sorry Manish. I was trying a poor jest but I have lived in the West too long. Salami is a kind of pork sausage originating in East Europe and Italy.
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Two soldiers martyred in North Waziristan
Two soldiers were martyred during an exchange of fire with militants in the Spinwam area of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's (K-P) North Waziristan district on Sunday, according to the Inter-Services Publisc Relations (ISPR).

During the intense exchange of fire, 25-year-old sepoy lmran Ullah, resident of District Bajaur District, and sepoy Afzal Khan who was 21 years of age and a resident of Upper Dir District, fought gallantly and embraced martyrdom.

At least two terrorists were killed while two others were apprehended by army troops. Weapons and ammunition were also recovered from the terrorists.
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TTP militants have K-P police in their crosshairs
Police here have fought militants for years - more than 2,100 personnel have been martyred and 7,000 injured since 2001 - but never have they been the focus of militants’ operations as they are today.

“We’ve stopped their way to Peshawar,” assistant sub-inspector Jameel Shah of Sarband station, which controls the Manzoor Shaheed outpost, said of the militants.

Sarband and its eight outposts have suffered four major attacks in recent months and faced sniper fire with unprecedented frequency, according to police based there.

Killings of police in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa rose to 119 last year, from 54 in 2021 and 21 in 2020. Some 102 have been slain already this year, most in the mosque bombing but some in other attacks. Elsewhere, militants stormed a police office in Karachi on Feb. 17, martyring four before security forces retook the premises and killed three assailants.
A TTP spokesman, Muhammad Khurasani, told Reuters its main target was Pakistan’s military, but the police were standing in the way.

“The police have been told many times not to obstruct our way, and instead of paying heed to this the police have started martyring our comrades,” he said. “This is why we are targeting them.”
On Monday, two soldiers were martyred in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa in a firefight with terrorists, the military said in a statement.

In December, the TTP released a video purportedly recorded by one of its militants from mountains around the capital, Islamabad, showing the parliament building. “We are coming,” said a note held by the unidentified terrorist.

The TTP wants to show that its militants can strike outside their current areas of influence, said Amir Rana, director of the Pak Institute for Peace Studies, an Islamabad-based think tank. While their ability may be limited, he said, “propaganda is a big part of this war and the TTP are getting good at it”.
Militants have procured US-made M4 rifles and other sophisticated weapons from stocks left by Western forces that exited Afghanistan in 2021, police officials said. Some police guards told Reuters they had seen small reconnaissance drones flying over their outposts.

Khurasani, the TTP spokesman, confirmed that the group was using drones for surveillance.

Several police officials at Sarband station said the provincial government and military provided them and other outposts with thermal goggles in late January to aid the fight. But they encountered another problem.

“About 22 hours of the day we have power outages... there’s no electricity to charge our goggles,” Shah told Reuters at Sarband.

The station has one rooftop solar panel, which officers paid out of their own pockets to install, according to station chief Qayyum Khan. One policeman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of disciplinary action, said police use their vehicles or go to a petrol station equipped with a back-up generator to charge their goggles.

Police said they had taken other protection measures, including erecting rudimentary walls to guard against sniper fire, and procuring bulletproof glass from a market that sells equipment left behind by US-led forces.
But the nature of the fight has changed in recent months, which partly shows why the police, not the military, are at the forefront. The militants were now spread in smaller groups across the country and among the civilian population, instead of operating from bases in former tribal areas, analysts said.

The military has also been stretched by another insurgency in Balochistan, where terrorists are targeting state infrastructure and Chinese investments.

The defence ministry did not respond to requests for comment about the armed forces’ role in resisting militants in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.
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Aldonkar wrote:
Manish_P wrote:
Yes, of course it is halal.

Dehej which is hindu/brahmin/patriarchal is evil and haraam..... till the girl converts... whereupon it transforms into a quaint traditional custom.
Sorry Manish. I was trying a poor jest but I have lived in the West too long. Salami is a kind of pork sausage originating in East Europe and Italy.
Aah, my bad, sir. Went right over my head :oops:
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/2403028/af ... arming-ttp


Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP

The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.

This was revealed at the meeting of the Central Apex Committee, which met on Friday to discuss the recent surge in terrorist attacks in the country and other security matters.
Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
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Anujan wrote:

Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP


Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
:rotfl:
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Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2403028/af ... arming-ttp
Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP
The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.
Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
You just can't make this stuff up!! :rotfl:

Now this is how it will play out. Pak politicians will make a big hue & cry about it. They will point to this demand while begging IMF. Then they will "reluctantly" cut a deal with the Taliban for $10 billion. Taliban will get $5 billion of which they will enjoy on $4.9 billion and maybe use remaining $100 million to round up some low rank TTP bakras. Pak politicians will pocket $2.5 billion and pakfauj another $2.5 billion. Then they live happily ever after.
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Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2403028/af ... arming-ttp


Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP

The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.

This was revealed at the meeting of the Central Apex Committee, which met on Friday to discuss the recent surge in terrorist attacks in the country and other security matters.
Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
These p*ki pig turds don't have money to pay salaries of their govt employees. From where will they get funds for operations against TTP? :P This is a non-starter. Even the talibs figured this out :rotfl:
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Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2403028/af ... arming-ttp


Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP

The Afghan Taliban have expressed their willingness to disarm the banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and relocate its members from the Pak-Afghan border but with a condition that Islamabad will bear the cost of the proposed plan.

This was revealed at the meeting of the Central Apex Committee, which met on Friday to discuss the recent surge in terrorist attacks in the country and other security matters.
Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
As I read this, I got emotional, wiped a few tears from my eyes but was beaming with pride .
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la.khan wrote:
Anujan wrote:https://tribune.com.pk/story/2403028/af ... arming-ttp


Afghan Taliban want Pakistan to ‘bear cost’ of disarming TTP


Afghan Taliban have lost $100B due to fight against TTP
These p*ki pig turds don't have money to pay salaries of their govt employees. From where will they get funds for operations against TTP? :P This is a non-starter. Even the talibs figured this out :rotfl:
It's the West which pays, Saar. And they will.

These demands are not being made by the taliban of Pakistan, they are being made by Pakistan of the west.

Costs to contain India are going up due to a growing India and a falling PKR.

Just IMF aid packages will not cut it. The Pak fauj wants black hole funds desperately.
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Afghans are not the students. They are the original har*mis of the region. Pakis took over as Afghan went through a bad patch but they are back now and Pakis will go back to being their bit**es again. Just wait for it.
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Thank god. this Indian government has some sense. even with pressure mounting on GOI to help Pak as pak is slipping into deep shit De. Jayshankar very diplomatically rejected the offer to help Pak.

https://youtu.be/pq_UfcrYU5Y
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What bakistan needs is forbidden by the religion

Yawn - ‘Eating, travelling less’: How Pakistanis are coping with killer inflation
Hailing from a small village near Nawabshah, Imam Ali lost most of his livestock and crops in 2020 due to floods, forcing him to come to Karachi to find a job. Ever since, he has been working as a security guard in Karachi’s FB Area, earning a meagre Rs 15,000 a month. However, the minimum wage in Sindh is mandated at Rs 25,000.

“We are solely reliant on God, we cannot make ends meet in this inflation,” said 55-year-old Ali. “If our children ask for food, we simply make excuses. If we eat one time, the second meal is hard to manage … we tell the children to just sleep.” “They [the government] have made our lives impossible. We are barely surviving,” complained Ali. His income has not changed in the last three years despite the exponential rise in prices.

He cannot afford to send his eight children to school and they stay with their mother at the shelter.
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TTP continues to bat well after opting for powerplay.
Two soldiers, one child martyred in North, South Waziristan attacks
NORTH WAZIRISTAN/SOUTH WAZIRISTAN: Two soldiers and a child embraced martyrdom in separate incidents in North Waziristan and South Waziristan, officials confirmed.

According to local officials, armed militants stormed a check post in the Noorkhel area of North Waziristan late Sunday night.

The terrorists, armed with advanced weaponry, were engaged by security forces. During the operation, two soldiers embraced martyrdom while two attackers were also gunned down, according to a statement issued by the military’s media wing, Inter-Services Public Relation (ISPR).
In the second attack, one child was killed and two critically wounded after a roadside improvised explosive device (IED) went off near the Wana area of South Waziristan.

Officials told Dawn that the attack took place some five kilometres south of the district headquarters Wana on Monday.

“Three children were crossing the road when the IED went off around 2pm,” a police official Zia Wazir told Dawn.
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Maybe Ishaq Dar & co should give up wearing suits and hire makeup artists to impress the IMF...

Pakistani woman saying her rich family swimming in luxuries is full of professional beggars emerges amid severe economic crisis
Amidst the ongoing economic crisis in Pakistan, a video of a woman in Lahore being married to a ‘rich’ family of professional beggars is going viral on social media.

The said video was first posted on the official YouTube channel of one Syed Basit Ali on February 20 this year. The woman, identified as Shazia, is an MBBS doctor by profession. She recounted how her family was being misled by the professional beggars, who claimed to have made their fortunes through import-export business.

Dr Shazia, who is now a homemaker, narrated her ordeal, “My marriage was fixed by my family. The first 4-5 months were great… I had to do no work. My in-laws told me to enjoy life to its fullest. I had a luxurious life there.” “The bungalow of my in-laws was equipped with a gym, a swimming pool, cars such as Land Cruiser and Fortuner, and servants to take care of my needs,” she emphasised.

On being asked by Syed Basit Ali about her ‘shocking discovery’ after 4-5 months, Dr Shazia recounted, “I saw the family members disappearing one by one. They would simply sit in their cars and go somewhere. This included both young and old family members.”

“One day, I went to the basement of the building and found costumes of beggars. They would change into their outfit every day and go out in their cars to beg for alms…I once followed them and found them begging in groups,” she added.

The woman also informed that the family of beggars had even hired a makeup artist so that they could pass off as destitute.
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^^^^
Yes! Solution! The govt must promptly send their minsterans to beg outside the UN..

They have diplomuttic immunity.. cannot be ejected..

Annoy them into giving you a bailout!! Checkmate!

AoA! Prilliant!
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Thanks to Bilawal Bhutto's masterful diplomacy and articulate enunciation of Pakistan's interests, IMF has agreed to release funds if all its conditions are met and Russia is willing to export oil if Pakistan pays market rates.

He will make a great Prime Minister some day.
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Anujan wrote:Thanks to Bilawal Bhutto's masterful diplomacy and articulate enunciation of Pakistan's interests, IMF has agreed to release funds if all its conditions are met and Russia is willing to export oil if Pakistan pays market rates.

He will make a great Prime Minister some day.
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Pakistan’s Twin Crises
Pakistan’s current approach of stalling on the IMF’s requirements and implementing fiscal half-measures put it on track for economic failure, which will stoke public discontent; its policy of downplaying the Taliban’s support for the TTP will also lead to terror attacks. Pakistan’s Chinese allies, who have major investments in Pakistan as part of the Belt and Road Initiative, may step in with last-minute economic support as the crisis peaks, but their terms for such an intervention will further erode Pakistan’s sovereignty without alleviating either of the economic or terrorism crises. The United States should not help Pakistan get reprieve from IMF-mandated reforms but steer it toward a debt-restructuring process. It should also push Pakistan to limit economic ties with the Taliban and, at the same time, expose the Taliban’s support for terror groups, such as the TTP. That alone will not solve the dysfunction ailing Pakistan, but it will provide the basis for an economic recovery and containment of the terrorist threat—and advance U.S. interests.
In response, Sharif has pleaded to partners in China, the United States, and the Middle East for help to evade IMF-mandated reforms. China, which holds 30 percent of Pakistan’s $100 billion external debt, has extended some help, including a $700 million loan for refinancing. But Beijing has not been obliging in the way Islamabad had hoped—for example, by providing accelerated loan rollovers and additional financing large enough to offset Pakistan’s debt burden. In the current fiscal year alone, Pakistan owes nearly $9 billon out of $15 billion in debt servicing to China. Because the government is dragging its feet on reforms and the IMF is skeptical of its pledges to change in the future, Pakistan has missed out on a crucial IMF tranche to replenish its dwindling foreign exchange reserves, which has aggravated the crisis.
Khan’s and Sharif’s recent economic mismanagement and evasion of reform are part of a long-standing pattern. For years, Pakistani leaders have underinvested in human capital. The military, which wields tremendous power, has warped economic policy by prioritizing rivalry with India and taking significant chunks of the country’s narrow resource base. Elites have rigged much of the economy, which has disincentivized foreign direct investment and innovation. Both military and civilian elites have avoided reform while arguing that Pakistan is too big to fail as they seek assistance—in aid from the United States and from backers in the Middle East, as well as expensive debt-laden projects from China. All of this has contributed to low productivity, poor tax collection, and debt that is excessive relative to Pakistan’s ability to repay it. Over the last decade, proceeds from exports have not made up for the low investment and declining assistance inflows, in particular from the United States, thereby raising Pakistan’s debt stress.
The TTP’s resurgence is fundamentally driven by the rise of the Taliban in Afghanistan—who were supported by Pakistan to counter purported Indian influence in the country. U.S. officials had tried to reason with Pakistani leadership that their support for the Taliban was feeding the TTP, but Pakistani officials remained confident in their ability to both fight the TTP and support the Taliban. At one stage, the TTP was weakened by U.S. drone strikes and Pakistani military campaigns. The group retreated to the mountains of eastern Afghanistan. But the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan has given the TTP a massive boost. Almost instantly, the Taliban provided the TTP’s top leadership with political asylum and cover for its campaign of violence in Pakistan.
Today, the TTP has thousands of fighters ready for a war against Pakistan. The TTP’s leadership has found safe haven in Afghanistan, where many Taliban fighters are also now joining the TTP. Pakistan has repeatedly asked the Taliban to restrain the TTP. In return, Pakistan has offered to advocate for the Taliban’s normalization with the rest of the world and dangled economic inducements, such as expanding transit trade and bilateral Afghan-Pakistani trade. In 2022, Afghanistan under the Taliban sent over $1 billion in exports to Pakistan and raised significant revenues from taxes on border crossings between the two countries. Still, the Taliban remain unmoved in maintaining their support for the TTP. Some Taliban leaders, in particular Interior Minister Siraj Haqqani, have on occasion yanked the TTP’s leash. But most Taliban leaders back the TTP’s political agenda and its campaign against Pakistan.
As Pakistan drifts toward an economic abyss in both scenarios, it will face significant pressures from the TTP. These pressures will be different from those Pakistan faced from the TTP a decade ago. Back then, even though the violence was dire, the United States was providing over $1 billion in yearly aid, targeting terror groups through drone strikes within Pakistan, and fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan. This time, Pakistan lacks aid from abroad, and the Taliban in Afghanistan are much stronger. Pakistan can hit back through cross-border assaults on the TTP but that may only incite violent reprisals from the group and rile the Taliban, leading to a bloodier conflict.

The TTP will look to press its advantage by increasing the number of attacks, including suicide bombings, and contest for territory in the country’s northwest. This will also afford opportunities to a range of transnational and regional terrorists to establish bases in TTP-dominated territories in Pakistan. At that point, Pakistan’s inability to import enough oil will erode its military and policing capacity. The TTP will also have an opportunity to exploit public anger caused by the economic meltdown and commodity shortages. With Pakistan slated to have a general election in 2023, political turmoil in the country will worsen. All this will put substantial stress on the cohesion of Pakistan’s army, which is already reeling from Khan’s accusations that the military colluded with the United States to remove him from power.
In Washington, Pakistan’s current predicament does not elicit much sympathy, as U.S. officials remember Pakistan’s efforts to undermine their war effort in Afghanistan. Pakistan’s troubles also serve as a reminder that its leaders made reckless economic choices and engaged in dangerous brinksmanship with terrorist proxies. Competing priorities and a shift away from counterterrorism limit U.S. interest in addressing Pakistan’s crises. Letting Pakistan stew in its juices also appears compelling—particularly as this may be more painful for China, which is heavily invested in Pakistan.

Still, there are U.S. interests at stake.
Even if the United States is not looking to outbid Beijing’s development finance and military transfers to Pakistan, Washington is better served by a sovereign Pakistan free from China’s coercion. Dissuading Pakistan from spoiling Indo-Pacific priorities is also a critical objective. In addition, it is important for the United States to deter transnational terrorist threats from Afghanistan and Pakistan and ensure the security of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. Should the economic crisis and the terrorism escalation begin to feed off each other, these interests will come under stress. China may step in with last-minute assistance, but that will mitigate neither the economic conundrum nor the problem of mounting terrorist violence. Instead, it may pile on more debt and come with coercive terms, such as Chinese demands for more military basing and intelligence access—a decidedly negative outcome for the United States.

Given these risks, the pragmatic way forward is to attend to the twin crises with the aim of preventing them from happening simultaneously. To this end, the United States should press Pakistan to reckon with the reality of the Taliban’s support for the TTP and scale back economic ties with and diplomatic advocacy for the Taliban, who have cruelly banned women and girls from schools, universities, and nongovernmental organizations. Separately, the United States should expose the Taliban’s continued dangerous support for international terrorists, including the TTP. In addition to hosting Ayman al-Zawahiri, the late chief of al Qaeda, the Taliban are in violation of the U.S.-Taliban Doha accord and several of their own pledges to not let their territory be used by international terrorist outfits. {This is a non starter. Nothing more can be done than what has already been done on this front}

On the economic front, the U.S. government cannot and should not offer Pakistani elites the shortcuts that they seek, such as by interceding with the IMF for a reprieve on reforms. Instead, the United States should push Pakistan toward a debt-restructuring process, similar to the ones Sri Lanka and Zambia are in. The G-20 Common Framework program for debt relief, meant for countries poorer than Pakistan, provides a template. Pakistan will need a new IMF program even after it completes the current one—and the United States should push Pakistan to start the restructuring process now. Much of Pakistan’s debt is owed to multilateral institutions, China, Paris Club countries, and private creditors that can relax repayment terms in exchange for a plan of genuine reform that makes long-term expenditure cuts while also mapping ways of boosting Pakistan’s tax revenue, investment, and economic growth. Pakistani elites will try to avoid the pain and reputational cost associated with restructuring and perhaps the anger of their Chinese allies, who may oppose it to avoid losing money or setting a precedent. But if Pakistan can successfully renegotiate debt repayment terms with other major creditors, China will be left with no option but to restructure, too. That will reduce China’s leverage over Pakistan and diminish the risk that China would strong-arm Pakistan for military access. On the other hand, if Pakistan remains in debt distress and the Taliban continue to support the TTP, it is inevitable that Pakistan will stumble into an economic crash when terrorists are becoming more brazen.
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What happened to munna? So why can't Uncle help? Looks like Paki Fauj is not cooperating and Uncle is unhappy.
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So a whole lot of words from a (ex)Paki amounting to - 'Hey Pak helped the US helped bring down the soviets then, now we can help bring down China. Oh by the way we keep the indians tied down as before. Buy 1 get 2 offer. Can't get a better deal than that'
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^^^^ USIP is a known breeding ground for deep state interests, for instance Moeed Yusuf.
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‘TTP wants to push govt out of KP to establish Sharia’
WASHINGTON: The outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) aims to push the government of Pakistan out of Khyber Pakh­tunkhwa and establish Sharia by waging a terrorist campaign against the military and state, a US State Department report warns.

According to the 2021 Country Reports on Terrorism :eek: , the TTP uses the tribal belt along the Afghan­istan-Pakistan border to train and deploy its operatives.

TTP draws ideological guidance from Al Qaeda, while elements of AQ rely in part on TTP for safe haven in the Pashtun areas along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

“This arrangement has given TTP access to both AQ’s global terrorist network and its members’ operational expertise.”
The report also mentions Pakistan’s pledge to “ensure that no armed militias are allowed to function in the country,” but complains that attackers continued to operate from Pakistani soil in 2021. The report identifies the Haqqani Network, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT), and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) as the groups that carry out such attacks.

The report claims that although “Pakistan took some steps in 2021 to counter terror financing and to restrain some India-focused militant groups, authorities did not take sufficient action to dismantle them”.
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Dilbu wrote:‘TTP wants to push govt out of KP to establish Sharia’
WASHINGTON: The outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) aims to push the government of Pakistan out of Khyber Pakh­tunkhwa and establish Sharia by waging a terrorist campaign against the military and state, a US State Department report warns.

According to the 2021 Country Reports on Terrorism :eek: , the TTP uses the tribal belt along the Afghan­istan-Pakistan border to train and deploy its operatives.

TTP draws ideological guidance from Al Qaeda, while elements of AQ rely in part on TTP for safe haven in the Pashtun areas along the Afghan-Pakistan border.

“This arrangement has given TTP access to both AQ’s global terrorist network and its members’ operational expertise.”
The report also mentions Pakistan’s pledge to “ensure that no armed militias are allowed to function in the country,” but complains that attackers continued to operate from Pakistani soil in 2021. The report identifies the Haqqani Network, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT), and Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) as the groups that carry out such attacks.

The report claims that although “Pakistan took some steps in 2021 to counter terror financing and to restrain some India-focused militant groups, authorities did not take sufficient action to dismantle them”.
this is a huge paki nightmare since the durand like agreement expired many years ago.

The strategic depth story that the pakis keep peddling is just so much paki BS to cover up the truth

The taliban want to take out the durand line and control both sides.
Moreover, the refusal to accept the status of the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is not unique to the Taliban regime. Previous Afghan governments have argued that the Durand Line's legitimacy expired in 1993, as the validity of the agreement, inked on November 12, 1893, was for 100 years.
The afghans have credible claims to large parts of pukestan.

The original 1893 Durand Line Agreement was written in English, with translated copies in Dari. The resulting agreement or treaty led to the creation of a new province called the North-West Frontier Province, now known as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, a province of Pakistan which includes FATA and the Frontier Regions.

The Durand Line stretches from the Pamirs in the north to the Arabian Sea in the south, covering a distance of 2,430-kilometres. It starts from the snow caped mountains in the north, passes through the fertile mid territories, leading to the dry and barren south areas. The Durand Line cuts through the Pashtun tribal areas and further south through the Baluchistan region, politically dividing ethnic Pashtuns, as well as the Baluch and other ethnic groups, who live on both sides of the border. It demarcates Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan (Part of Jammu & Kashmir) of northern and western Pakistan from the north-eastern and southern provinces of Afghanistan.
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India should make sure that all maps of Pak show all these regions except J&K as disputed and not within the Pak border.
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Durand line was never valid. I'll write a longer post.
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https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/10453 ... awaja-asif
Imran Khan to be arrested if law permits: Khawaja Asif
So many code words for "army" :rotfl:

1. Law
2. Establishment
3. Important quarters
4. Third umpire
5. Institution

What else? There must be some strategic something as well.
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^^^^ neutrals, boys
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You missed

1. Sensitive institutions
2. Stakeholders
3. Well informed sources
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