India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Tuan · Post by **Tuan** » 19 Sep 2023 08:52

Also happening in Canada...
Court orders review of former informant's human rights complaint against spy agency
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/court-co ... -1.6970875

VishnuS · Post by **VishnuS** » 19 Sep 2023 08:58

Some of you folks are over reacting!

As Cyano ji pointed out, Trudeau is not Canada.

Ignore the ******, just like how we ignore the existence of Pak!

Right now, India Canada trade is over $28B with $20B in our favour! It's not much to India, but for ordinary trader, his exports to Canada are huge. This ordinary trader's profit is one of the reasons what hurt our exporters when Trade halted between India and Pak. That's said, Pak isn't Canada and I am ok as some of our exports route through UAE, while no such alternative exists for Canada.

We've put up with Pakistan's antics for a very long time.... Canada is nothing!

Let's just keep our head down, let Trudeau please his 4% Sikh vote and let's keep on giving cold shoulder to Trudeau and Canada while giving hints that he is the reason for downfall of India Canada relationship! Let's give some ammo for Trudeau's Oppn to fire against him in the 2025 elections!!

Folks, last but not least, this isn't the time to pick our battles!! India's growth doesn't stop at 2023 or at $5T! It is a marathon, For now, Let's put our energy behind being the leader of Global South!

Let me also tell you guys one more thing, if China had kept it's head down for another 10 years and Corona Pandemic hadn't occurred, China would have won the China Taiwan (US) war without even firing the bullet!!

Canada's support to Khalistan is probably at the bottom of the "ToDo" list of GoI!

Forget this incident ever happened, if my hunch is right, GoI will deny the latest allegations and move on while keeping giving cold shoulders to Canada at the same time

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 09:03

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And the Voters Come Out to Cut Up Your Remains,
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sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 09:16

Khalistani Canadian leader Jagmeet Singh declares war on India:

I'm waiting for Congis to jump in and assure their support to Jagmeet and other Khalistanis

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 19 Sep 2023 09:28

India rejects Canadian allegations as ‘absurd’ and ‘motivated’
Firm slap from MEA that Canada is trying to divert attention from its promotion of terrorism against India.
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/harde ... 770665.cms

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 09:40

williams · Post by **williams** » 19 Sep 2023 09:42

VishnuS wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 08:58 Some of you folks are over reacting!

As Cyano ji pointed out, Trudeau is not Canada.

Ignore the ******, just like how we ignore the existence of Pak!

Right now, India Canada trade is over $28B with $20B in our favour! It's not much to India, but for ordinary trader, his exports to Canada are huge. This ordinary trader's profit is one of the reasons what hurt our exporters when Trade halted between India and Pak. That's said, Pak isn't Canada and I am ok as some of our exports route through UAE, while no such alternative exists for Canada.

We've put up with Pakistan's antics for a very long time.... Canada is nothing!

Let's just keep our head down, let Trudeau please his 4% Sikh vote and let's keep on giving cold shoulder to Trudeau and Canada while giving hints that he is the reason for downfall of India Canada relationship! Let's give some ammo for Trudeau's Oppn to fire against him in the 2025 elections!!

Folks, last but not least, this isn't the time to pick our battles!! India's growth doesn't stop at 2023 or at $5T! It is a marathon, For now, Let's put our energy behind being the leader of Global South!

Let me also tell you guys one more thing, if China had kept it's head down for another 10 years and Corona Pandemic hadn't occurred, China would have won the China Taiwan (US) war without even firing the bullet!!

Canada's support to Khalistan is probably at the bottom of the "ToDo" list of GoI!

Forget this incident ever happened, if my hunch is right, GoI will deny the latest allegations and move on while keeping giving cold shoulders to Canada at the same time

VishnuS ji, I like the idea of India doing nothing for the economy's sake. My concern is, this Trudeau guy has pointed fingers at the Indian diplomatic establishment in Canada without any evidence and sinisterly provided fuel for Kalisthani thugs to target our diplomatic staff. That could continue until the October 2025 Canadian elections - two years from now. That, to me, is unacceptable. India has to hold this guy accountable somehow, and India has the means to do it without affecting our economy.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 09:53

India's RAW official expelled from Canada:

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 10:19

Najunamar · Post by **Najunamar** » 19 Sep 2023 10:19

I don’t like the idea of doing nothing, this Canadian administration has been given enough chances and if they wish to hang themselves I think GoI/Bharat should help accelerate the process.

Some rebuke should be there such as closure of the Chandigarh consulate and/expulsion of their high commissioner. In addition, any other convenient ways of needling these folks should be considered.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 10:35

sanman wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 10:19 [youtube]zdVTxHBcxEA[youtube]

sanman ji,

This is as good as in indictment and the global commie and wokerati will pitch it as the gospel truth (as stated/"proved" by a white govt)

There has to be an Indian retaliation followed by tangible repercussions that bite the kaneda govt.

justinder is playing dirty because his french butt is at stake.

among other things, the little schitt is targeting the 2024 elections

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 19 Sep 2023 10:41

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 19 Sep 2023 11:03

Canadian citizens asking for a breakup of India is foreign interference. If they can do it, so can we. This needs to be drilled in to their nuts

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 11:04

India should block kaneda from the QUAD.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 19 Sep 2023 11:07

chetak wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 10:35 ...
There has to be an Indian retaliation followed by tangible repercussions that bite the kaneda govt.
...

First counter shot fired..

Hardeep Singh Nijjar News Live Updates: India expels senior Canada diplomat, asks him to leave country in 5 days

India today summoned Canadian envoy, after which it expelled a senior Canadian diplomat, asking him to leave the country in 5 days. This comes shortly after Canada expelled RAW station chief Pavan Kumar Rai in Ottawa amid allegations linking the Indian government to the assassination of a Khalistani activist.

India also rejected allegations made by the Canadian government linking it to the assassination of Khalistani leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar calling the allegations ‘absurd ‘and ‘motivated’.

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 19 Sep 2023 11:09

India has rightfully responded by tossing a Canuck from India.

https://news.rediff.com/commentary/2023 ... 990f4b96ee

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 11:24

Its one thing to have strained relations with Bharat, and quite an other for Turdeau, as head of state to accuse Bharat in their parliament. He has doubled down on what he may have said when he met Modi ji which, as per MEA statement, which Modi ji rejected unequivocally (the gall/stupidity cant say which).

This is a very serious "allegation" without any evidence presented. And this changes everything.

The best way for India to respond to this is to close CA's missions in all other cities except Dilli. And cut down its MEA staff in CA - why give them the joy of expelling us?

Bring the Kanishka Bombing dossier to the fore and talk about it all the time, in every forum and demand justice for Bharatiya and Canadian lives lost. And push the foot down harder on the terrorist/separatist necks without relent.

Before anyone suggests NRIndians must leave/boycott Canada out of patriotism etc. please remember that its a Bhrahmaastra to be used against your strongest enemy at the right time in Kurukshetra, and CA doesn't qualify at all.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 11:29

This comes shortly after Canada expelled RAW station chief Pavan Kumar Rai in Ottawa

Are our RAW station chiefs officially designated as such?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Sep 2023 11:38

VishnuS wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 08:58 Let me also tell you guys one more thing, if China had kept it's head down for another 10 years and Corona Pandemic hadn't occurred, China would have won the China Taiwan (US) war without even firing the bullet!!

This incident cannot be equated with Corona or the coercion-cum-aggression indulged in by XJP in the last 10 years.

This is not even on the same scale as the Hainan incident involving a USN Sigint plane, or the Chinese behavior following the official take-over by Japan of Senkaku in 2012.

Compared to them, this cannot anything but be a storm in a teacup because the scale of the event cannot really grow as large as those even if Trudeau tries to blow it up. Besides, Canada lacks the muscle to do much.

That being said, this requires a retaliation and instilling some sense in the Trudeau government and GoI will proceed to do so with whatever is necessary. That cannot be called an over-reaction. We have been rather patient and Trudeau never caught the signals from GoI.

SidSom · Post by **SidSom** » 19 Sep 2023 11:44

Ok So India Expels Canadian Diplomat as well.

https://twitter.com/RealBababanaras/sta ... 1058676222

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 11:51

Anant wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 11:09 India has rightfully responded by tossing a Canuck from India.

https://news.rediff.com/commentary/2023 ... 990f4b96ee

just the opening salvo, Anant ji.....

India will soon start eating into their remittance transactions done by Indian students going to kaneda.

Imports from keneda will hit duty hurdles and intrusive inspections at ports of disembarkations, increasing their costs

Next would be crack down on Khalistani terrorists out and open.

Jayshankar is a master of this political game.

sumsumne · Post by **sumsumne** » 19 Sep 2023 11:57

I am intrigued by the timing of all this.

Castro is in deep shit in every aspect. Housing prices, inflation, jobs, immigration, medical care, etc and his labor party polls are way down compared to conservatives. So he decides to launch this distractionary story?

Honestly no one in Kaneda cares - daily living is priority.

AshishA · Post by **AshishA** » 19 Sep 2023 12:05

Well its better to use all resources in Canada and paint this as a big failure of the Canadian govt in effect making Trudeau look even weaker than he already is while categorically denying any involvement.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 12:22

Reports saying Turdeau is pushing this case with his G7 buddies like Bidenwa, Macron, Sunak etc. He is trying to rally them saying such instances of RAW killing terrorists on a foreign soil could also happen in G7 countries tomorrow.

I think this is an excellent move by Turdeau. If he gets ignored or asked to provide evidence or rebuffed by G7 he gets discredited and stands alone. If G7 tries to take up this cause, each of them have enough allegations of killings by their own intelligence agencies that it may blow up on their own faces, and the more vocal they get on this matter, the greater the blow back and widens the north-south divide.

India's rapid and somewhat unexpected (by G7) rise on the world stage though accepted in public, has rattled and rankled G7. May be some in G7 will go along with Turdeau - thus revealing who are not really our "friends".

We should thank Turdeau for setting up this free litmus test at his and CA's expense.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 19 Sep 2023 12:26

sumsumne wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 11:57 I am intrigued by the timing of all this.

Castro is in deep shit in every aspect. Housing prices, inflation, jobs, immigration, medical care, etc and his labor party polls are way down compared to conservatives. So he decides to launch this distractionary story?

Honestly no one in Kaneda cares - daily living is priority.

Canada (Trudeau) is playing the bad cop to US (Biden) playing the good cop.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 12:39

Very much possible. US & UK have been largely tolerant of Khalistani separatists on their soil. Haven't heard of anyone caught and prosecuted for the attacks on Indian consulates and several months have passed. UK which has thousands of security cameras all over London claims it cant identify the attackers. No idea where the US investigation is - with the means they have its unbelievable if they haven't caught the attackers.

India should start demanding that Canda should be put on FATF grey list.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 19 Sep 2023 12:56

Anyone thinks all this is playing nicely into Chinese hands ?

williams · Post by **williams** » 19 Sep 2023 12:58

Good and right move by India. US or UK will be ready to jeopardize their relationship with India for this two-bit issue... Especially in the current environment.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 13:00

williams wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 12:58 Good and right move by India. US or UK will be ready to jeopardize their relationship with India for this two-bit issue... Especially in the current environment.

shri williams,

One country that may be watching the India-Canada situation very closely, is Australia

the khalistanis think that it's their जन्मसिद्ध अधिकार to crap in every country that they get shelter in

The tandoori chickens may finally be coming home to roost

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 19 Sep 2023 13:05

This isn't the old India. India has international standing now to take on such tin pot nincompoops. Canada is overrun by Khalistani terrorists, Chinese spies and sympathizers and racist Canadians who have murdered Indian students. This bs and lack of any meaningful prosecution has been ongoing for decades. Ask the families of the poor Kanishka victims. All of that garbage started in Canada.
Trudeau has been an abysmal failure. Trucker strike in Ottawa, low ratings, failed marriage, useless bum. He needed something to deflect his abysmal governance. This has the handiwork of international actors at hand, namely the Chinese.
Even the US is sick of this clown.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 13:10

Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link between agents of the government of India and the killing of a Canadian citizen

The wording of his statement

Turdeau has jackshit in terms of evidence, and is risking a lot on thin ice. I'm sure they pursued Kaniska bombing with the same vigour!

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 13:20

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/1 ... illing-row
In tit-for-tat move, India asks Canada diplomat to leave country in 5 days
Canadian diplomat ordered to leave the country in five days, hours after Ottawa expels Indian diplomat over the killing of a Sikh separatist.
19 Sep 2023
A senior Canadian diplomat has been ordered to leave India, the Indian foreign ministry said, hours after Ottawa expelled an Indian diplomat in an escalating rift over the killing of a Sikh separatist earlier this year.
New Delhi’s decision reflected its “growing concern at the interference of Canadian diplomats in our internal matters and their involvement in anti-India activities”, the foreign ministry said in a statement on Tuesday.
The duelling expulsions come as relations between Canada and India are tense. Trade talks have been derailed and Canada just cancelled a trade mission to India that was planned later this year.
Protests by pro-Sikh independence groups in Canada have angered Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government.
Canada on Monday said it was “actively pursuing credible allegations” linking Indian government agents to the murder of the Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar outside a cultural centre in Surrey, British Columbia on June 18.
Nijjar was reportedly organising an unofficial referendum in India for an independent Sikh nation at the time of this death.
India dismissed the Canadian accusation as “absurd and motivated” and urged it instead to take legal action against anti-Indian elements operating from its soil.
......
Gautam
It did not take long.

williams · Post by **williams** » 19 Sep 2023 13:32

https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-in ... adian-soil

Interesting to read the comments. That is what an average Joe in the US thinks about Canada and this incident.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 13:36

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 19 Sep 2023 13:47

williams wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 13:32 https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-in ... adian-soil

Interesting to read the comments. That is what an average Joe in the US thinks about Canada and this incident.

From the article:

Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said Canada's national security adviser and the head of Canada's spy service have traveled to India to meet their counterparts and to confront the Indian intelligence agencies with the allegations.

Like they expect Doval ji to rollover and drop dead based on these "allegations". What a bunch of jokers. Hope their planes dont break down this time or our security K9s dont sniff any funny stuff which would put these jokers in Tihar jail.

I think Turdeau is doing all this and claiming "therefore the Canadian side halted the trade talks" whereas it is quite the opposite !

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 14:14

Some BRF members are of the opinion that JT is not Canada, and it would be good to ignore him, and continue with business as usual. Unfortunately, JT is the PM of Canada and he brought up the accusations in a place that India can not ignore. Namo's choice of action is/was limited. If he chose to ignore, then he would be perceived as a paper tiger and be challenged by the US, UK or France in near future. And we know that there are many issues that they want him to change. By reacting now in an appropriate way, he is saving India from future problems on the long/short run. As far as the assassination of Khalistani Nijjar is concerned, I am sure the CIA has has informed all the NATO members where the truth lies.
Gautam

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Sep 2023 14:23

g.sarkar wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 14:14 Some BRF members are of the opinion that JT is not Canada, and it would be good to ignore him, and continue with business as usual. Unfortunately, JT is the PM of Canada and he brought up the accusations in a place that India can not ignore. Namo's choice of action is/was limited. If he chose to ignore, then he would be perceived as a paper tiger and be challenged by the US, UK or France in near future. And we know that there are many issues that they want him to change. By reacting now in an appropriate way, he is saving India from future problems on the long/short run. As far as the assassination of Khalistani Nijjar is concerned, I am sure the CIA has has informed all the NATO members where the truth lies.
Gautam

very true Gautam saar,

kaneda aur turdoo कि धज्जियाँ उड्आ देना (TEAR THEM TO PIECES)

turdoo is a soreass doormat.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 19 Sep 2023 14:30

g.sarkar wrote: ↑19 Sep 2023 14:14 Some BRF members are of the opinion that JT is not Canada, and it would be good to ignore him, and continue with business as usual. Unfortunately, JT is the PM of Canada and he brought up the accusations in a place that India can not ignore. Namo's choice of action is/was limited. If he chose to ignore, then he would be perceived as a paper tiger and be challenged by the US, UK or France in near future. And we know that there are many issues that they want him to change. By reacting now in an appropriate way, he is saving India from future problems on the long/short run. As far as the assassination of Khalistani Nijjar is concerned, I am sure the CIA has has informed all the NATO members where the truth lies.
Gautam

To be sure there are indeed local provincial governments in Canada who are more than eager to secure the trade deal with India. But this will not happen as long as pappu falsdu is in power.. unfortunately for the next 2 years

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 19 Sep 2023 14:32

https://www.rediff.com/news/report/how- ... 230919.htm
How diplomatic row with Canada will test Indo-US ties
Utkarsh Mishra, September 19, 2023
United States-based senior Defence Analyst Derek J Grossman on Tuesday said Canada's allegations regarding the Indian government's involvement in the fatal shooting of Khalistan Tiger Force chief Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada 'could be most significant test of strength of US-India partnership since early 2000s'.
The national security and Indo-Pacific analyst at RAND Corporation, an American nonprofit global policy think tank, posted on X: 'Canada's bombshell accusation today against India could be most significant test of strength of US-India partnership since early 2000s. That said, US will pull out all the stops to keep India close by its side to help counter China, which could mean staying out of this mess.'
An economics professor at Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada, Vivek Dehejia termed Canada's allegations against India 'explosive'.
In a post on X he said, 'These are explosive allegations by Trudeau against India, as yet unproven. The already frayed bilateral relationship will take a nose dive, and the Indo-Canadian diaspora will be riven by this. Best for all of us to take a pause till the fact are known.'
.....
Gautam

srin · Post by **srin** » 19 Sep 2023 14:43

Is Canada a state backer of terrorism? To me, the answer is yes, and we need to call them out as such