Understanding the US - Again

[sanman]

Douglas MacGregor response to Biden State of the Union Address

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNNPzqOsAX8

I like this guy - not only is he patriotic, but he's sober and rational, not wanting endless wars abroad which only destabilize the world, including our corner of it.

[hgupta]

Half of what he said was regurgitated BS. But anyway Biden is certainly not good for US or the world.

[Haresh]

Not sure where to put this.
Admin, please move if not appropriate.

DNA tests like 23AndMe and Ancestry are laying bare the frightening extent of incest in the US - including woman who discovers her ex-lover was her BROTHER

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... OTHER.html

[Manish_P]

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DNA tests like 23AndMe and Ancestry are laying bare the frightening extent of incest in the US - ....

Wait till they do the UK

[drnayar]

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DNA tests like 23AndMe and Ancestry are laying bare the frightening extent of incest in the US - ....

Wait till they do the UK

i can guess the upright horrors !!

[Cybaru]

Not sure where to put this.
Admin, please move if not appropriate.

DNA tests like 23AndMe and Ancestry are laying bare the frightening extent of incest in the US - including woman who discovers her ex-lover was her BROTHER

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... OTHER.html

Hopefully this helps eliminate KKK and the Nazis in the US in a few cycles!

[bala]

Former US Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo speaks on India-US relations, India's citizenship law and the China threat in an exclusive conversation with Firstpost's Managing Editor Palki Sharma.

Former US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Speaks To Palki Sharma



Palki Sharma is asking all the right questions. Mike Pompeo has good relations with Donald J. Trump and if Trump were to be elected we can see some high job for Mike Pompeo. I hope Trump et all put China on notice, claim Tibet is occupied by China. EAM Jai Shankar can steer the direction if needed. Mike Pompeo headed the CIA and he is very level headed and a great person unlike the current Tony Blinken with his Pannu/Munnu/Chunnu & CAA nonsense.

[Cybaru]

Former US Secretary Of State Mike Pompeo speaks on India-US relations, India's citizenship law and the China threat in an exclusive conversation with Firstpost's Managing Editor Palki Sharma.

Former US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Speaks To Palki Sharma


Palki Sharma is asking all the right questions. Mike Pompeo has good relations with Donald J. Trump and if Trump were to be elected we can see some high job for Mike Pompeo. I hope Trump et all put China on notice, claim Tibet is occupied by China. EAM Jai Shankar can steer the direction if needed. Mike Pompeo headed the CIA and he is very level headed and a great person unlike the current Tony Blinken with his Pannu/Munnu/Chunnu & CAA nonsense.

Mike Pompeo?

The guy who signed the agreement with Taliban in Doha and released 5000 terrorists?

According to the failing NY Times

This isn't our moment,” said Mr. Pompeo, a former Trump administration official. But he declined to endorse the former president

40 out of 44 cabinet and high ranking officials including his VP Mike pence have refused to endorse him and said he is not fit to lead.
No Endorsement equals NO JOB
Kiss the ring or move on

[Cybaru]

Deleted too avoid derailing the thread.
Ramana

[Cybaru]

For 500 million total, you can own a presidency!

Monday is going to be interesting to see how this plays out in his NY case of 464 million $$$ money due.

Someone asked on Fox News to Aline Habba - Russia or Saudis who is going to help? Any other candidate - the question would have killed the career, but teflon Don can escape everything...

Would you vote for someone in India if they had debt owned by a foreign country? if someone in a party got $500 million bail bond and Italy, Pakistan or Giiina stepped up, how do you think our country would react? Just imagine all the howling at the shouting man discussion tv group.. I forget his name... you get the drift...

[Cybaru]

Trump today, hawking $60 Bibles that he’s making royalties off of, claiming that other Bibles aren’t “endorsed” by him.

"I'm proud to be partnering with my very good friend Lee Greenwood who doesn't love his song God Bless the USA in connection with promoting the God Bless the USA Bible this Bible is the King James version and also includes our founding for other documents yes the Constitution which I'm fighting for every single day very hard to keep Americans protected also the Bill of Rights the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance are all part of this God Bless the USA Bible and just very important and very important to me I want to have a lot of people have it you have to have it for your heart for your soul many of you have never read them and don't know the Liberties and rights you have As Americans and how you are being threatened to lose those rights it's happening all the time it's a very sad thing that's going on in our country but we're going to get it turned around religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country and I truly believe that we need to bring them back and we have to bring them back fast I think it's one of the biggest problems we have that's why our country is going haywire we've lost religion in our country all Americans need a Bible in their home and I have many it's my favorite book it's a lot of people's favorite book this Bible is a reminder that the biggest thing we have to bring back America and to make America great again is our religion religion is so important it's so missing but but it's going to come back and it's going to come back strong just like our country is going to come back strong in the end we do not answer to bureaucrats and Washington we answer to God in heaven Christians are under siege we must protect content that is prog God we love God and we have to protect anything that is pro God we must defend God and the Public Square and not allow the media or the leftwing groups to silence censor or discriminate against us we have to bring Christianity back into our lives and back into what will be again a great nation our founding fathers did a tremendous thing when they built America on judeo-christian values now that Foundation is under attack perhaps as never before what can we do stand up speak out and pray that God will bless America again I'm proud to endorse and encourage you to get this Bible we must make America Pray Again pray get educated get motivated and stand with me and the legions of Americans asking God to bless our great nation to bring our great nation back and to make America great again I'm proud to partner with Lee in this offering he's a very special man both as a talent but maybe even more so as a human being he's very very special and I think you all should get a copy of God Bless the USA Bible now and help spread our Christian values with others there you have it let's make America Pray Again God bless you and God bless the USA

More Grifting!

[vijayk]

https://www.thefp.com/p/inside-the-new- ... -education

Inside the New Wave of Old-School Education
Amid growing claims that schools indoctrinate students, ‘classical education’—which teaches kids to think critically and master old books—is making a comeback.


zombie woke vs classic education

[Najunamar]

Probably OT but the above is precisely why our ancient gurukula system insisted on students reciting panchaadhis (panchaashath or 50 shlokas in the vedas) from memory. This built the capacity for thinking, faster identification of patterns in similar fashion to how repetitive exercises are used to build muscle strength.

[Vayutuvan]

Trump today, hawking $60 Bibles that he’s making royalties off of, claiming that other Bibles aren’t “endorsed” by him.
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More Grifting!

Your predicted $500 milion went down to $175 million. Trump is appealing as well. Biden needs raising $25 billion today in NYC. First in line to get $100K photos with the three dem presidents would be our OCIs.

[Cybaru]

Trump today, hawking $60 Bibles that he’s making royalties off of, claiming that other Bibles aren’t “endorsed” by him.
...
More Grifting!

Your predicted $500 milion went down to $175 million. Trump is appealing as well. Biden needs raising $25 billion today in NYC. First in line to get $100K photos with the three dem presidents would be our OCIs.

I didn't predict it, it's the judgement against him for FRAUD by NY state.

The 175 million is for appeal. If he loses the appeal, he will still need to pay the full unless it is reduced.

The funny part is he can't even post that, some billionaire

Well at least some of us are not buying bibles and laundering church money into political campaigns or getting bribes openly to the tune of 3 billion $$$ and becoming Billionaire Yass's puppet by merging with a SPAC. 3.5 DWAC million revenue x 25 = 88 million dollars worth company for 7.514B DJT listing.. Wonder how Putin has his hands through him. IMO that's bribing right in the open...

Photo is better than the need to allegedly sell National secrets to Foreign countries and allegedly get 2 billion in payments to Kusners account or being billionaires puppet! At least there is no QVC store selling bibles to national secrets.

[vera_k]

Good article to read if one wants to know why Obama is headed to losing in November.

Hospitals Are Adding Billions in ‘Facility’ Fees for Routine Care

[Cybaru]

Good article to read if one wants to know why Obama is headed to losing in November.

Hospitals Are Adding Billions in ‘Facility’ Fees for Routine Care

What? Obama?

[Mort Walker]

Xiden = Ombaba + Michael

[Cybaru]

Lol - the party that cheats!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-ju ... 6MRF5B4EQ/

A judge ruled Wednesday that the Georgia Republican Party’s first vice chairman, Brian K. Pritchard, violated state election laws when he voted nine times while serving probation for a felony check forgery sentence.

The finest people!

[vera_k]

The law responsible for those bills (colloquially called Obamacare) was passed by Obama when Biden was VP! Medicare, Medicaid or commercial insurance doesn't matter if one gets stuck with a bill at the end anyway.

[Pratyush]

Why do we need to discuss Trump and domestic US politics in this thread.

[Vayutuvan]

Lol - the party that cheats!

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-ju ... 6MRF5B4EQ/

A judge ruled Wednesday that the Georgia Republican Party’s first vice chairman, Brian K. Pritchard, violated state election laws when he voted nine times while serving probation for a felony check forgery sentence.

The finest people!

Who?!!!

[Vayutuvan]

Why do we need to discuss Trump and domestic US politics in this thread.

Very good question, @Pratyush gaaru.

[sanman]

Why do we need to discuss Trump and domestic US politics in this thread.

What are we trying to understand in this thread, exactly?

I think we should talk about Nuland & NeoCons, since she's apparently had unlimited latitude to re-draw the entire world around the narrow fixations of herself and her fellow NeoCons -- and this has had a huge impact on India.
Nuland basically catalyzed the Pak coup that replaced Imran with another military-controlled govt.
Nuland has been squeezing India over its ties to Russia, a country whom she's spun up a war against.
Even after she's stepped down, her aide Donald Lu continues to doggedly pursue India over Pannu case, demanding Nikhil Gupta be punished.


The root problem in this regard is that the people in the US State Dept are not tied to the interests of the United States. These NeoCons are refugees -- they are ideological refugees from the Oslo Peace Process that Clinton & Albright said would bring peace to the Middle East. But that collapsed, forcing these people to become ideological refugees with nowhere else to go -- so they had to invent NeoConservatism. Nuland is Albright's ideological stepchild, and while she and her fellow NeoCons first started out toppling and destroying Arab regimes (a response to Oslo's collapse), the NeoCons soon came under withering fire from backlash in Europe. So that's when the NeoCons decided they had to neutralize that by mucking around in Europe too -- and Ukraine was the obvious fault line they wanted to target and hammer on.

[vera_k]

In the light of this, is the US considered a democracy still?

Technically, a democracy is under civilian control. However, the description above would very much fit a gang or drug cartel.

[vijayk]

I think we need to stop discussing Biden vs Trump and your party preferences.

We should stick to understanding of US system - State Dept, Electoral system, Financial system, Criminal Justice system, foreign relations/manipulations not Biden and Trump and their scams.

[chetak]

shillary and soreass had moved in on taking control of the democratic party years ago, a political party that is now desperate and dangerous, an entity over which obummer has stewardship and these clowns have effected a radical regime change and destabilized the nation, got amrika embroiled in a war where the body bags are not amriki but some alleged non whites, ukr/russkis, who are bearing the brunt and carrying the can.

They have trashed and impoverished the EU, sidelined the britshits and economically pulverized the entire region. The amrikis have allowed in to the us, over seven million undocumented aliens of low talent and even lower IQ, people who are unqualified and will never be qualified to work in factories and other high tech enterprises, and this is exactly what the soreass gang did wilfully to europe by allowing the millions upon millions of military age male jihadis to flood in. That is exactly why the goras so vehemently oppose the CAA and NRC

they are also dealing with a rebellious israel, a feisty India and a sinking china that will take down anyone that they can, as they flounder and stare at internally imploding society that is fearful of the future .... and talking about a a feisty India, she just summoned the amriki deputy head of mission and tore her a new one, while the paki PM was summoned to the cheeni embassy and they read out the riot act regarding the five dead cheenis, and that's got to be a first for any PM in the world

They have covertly come back to afghanistan, using the pakis again as point, and are up to no good in this part of the world and that is a serious threat to India

The amrikis now have a rampaging left that is hell bent on socializing a country that is fundamentally a capitalist culture and are just beginning to see the pushback of the free market, individualist, and the protestant yankee narrative that built amrika in the first place

their patronage of khujiliwal and pappu is an example of how the deep state had long planned to subvert the Indian civilizational and cultural construct, one that had effectively withstood the onslaught of the abrahamics for over a millennia, but the britshits had energetically and efficaciously subverted the Indian mind for three centuries odd.

The awakening and recovery phase under Modiji has finally kicked in and that upsets the abrahamic deep state

Very soon, allies in the one so called "independent pillar" will be subverted, along with the redoubled efforts of the presstitute cabals that electronic and print media owners will unleash.

The fear of Modiji's third term is undaunting to many of these traitors and they are still trying to figure out whether or not to sit out the 2024 elections by writing benign reports and just skating by and making do with some silly "on ground reports"

[bala]

As a dharmic we have to understand, the so called neo-cons, neo-libs, wokes, leftist, marxists, jihadis are facets of the deep state operatives who engineer maximum confusion and chaos. This is standard policy since the idea is to strip nations of their resources and money right into the pockets of the deep state. This happens all the time. What do you think the BritshitRaj was all about? It was the deep state spread across Euro trash land that orchestrated much of the worldwide loot, mayhem, destruction, wanton mass killings of staggering proportion. The Americas were conquered using the same principle. The Eurotards infested Americas and the deep state moved headquarters to the US. Now the same deep state is up to many tricks similar to the past policies. They have infested all important branches of US Govt - state dept, CIA, FBI, Judiciary, political factions both republican and dems (some are both depending on the situation!), media, drugs, illicit trades, money laundering, extortion, human trafficing and much more. They dictate the entire policy of the US, not the elected govt (they are mere puppets who are the front face). These critters are vile, ruthless, blood thirsty, maniacal in mission mode and will not stop at anything and everything. Bharat/India is really facing this monster and so are other nations like Russia. Tis not easy to win against them, you take some losses and wins, that is the nature of the beast.

But with all Kriya (action) the karm (the bad fruit of action) is a bitch and will come to bite the monster sometime soon. I am hoping it is soon and sudden. Many of the deep state operatives face huge personal life disappointments like intractable disease or progeny which is handicapped for life. Despite this, their maniacal obsession persists.

[sanman]

As a dharmic we have to understand, the so called neo-cons, neo-libs, wokes, leftist, marxists, jihadis are facets of the deep state operatives who engineer maximum confusion and chaos. This is standard policy since the idea is to strip nations of their resources and money right into the pockets of the deep state. This happens all the time. What do you think the BritshitRaj was all about? It was the deep state spread across Euro trash land that orchestrated much of the worldwide loot, mayhem, destruction, wanton mass killings of staggering proportion. The Americas were conquered using the same principle. The Eurotards infested Americas and the deep state moved headquarters to the US. Now the same deep state is up to many tricks similar to the past policies. They have infested all important branches of US Govt - state dept, CIA, FBI, Judiciary, political factions both republican and dems (some are both depending on the situation!), media, drugs, illicit trades, money laundering, extortion, human trafficing and much more. They dictate the entire policy of the US, not the elected govt (they are mere puppets who are the front face). These critters are vile, ruthless, blood thirsty, maniacal in mission mode and will not stop at anything and everything. Bharat/India is really facing this monster and so are other nations like Russia. Tis not easy to win against them, you take some losses and wins, that is the nature of the beast.

But with all Kriya (action) the karm (the bad fruit of action) is a bitch and will come to bite the monster sometime soon. I am hoping it is soon and sudden. Many of the deep state operatives face huge personal life disappointments like intractable disease or progeny which is handicapped for life. Despite this, their maniacal obsession persists.

Biden is just a blind old Dhritarashtra. And Kamala, though not as old, is likewise a blindfolded Gandhari.
Under their blind gaze, all their Kauravas are running amok, sewing chaos and destruction. The rest of us are forced to put up with the effects of that.

The NeoCons are reckless fools who are squandering what past generations of Americans painstakingly built up.
In order to keep America's body politic glued together, they are expending vast sums of money at a reckless rate, all to protect their precious foreign policy crusade.

But NeoCons now have people in both parties to advance their foreign agenda. This seems to be their greatest strength.
The more active that NeoCons on both sides of the aisle become, the more America's 2-party system looks like a uniparty.

NeoCons started out as ideological refugees from the collapse of Bill Clinton's Oslo "peace process". Their distress is what led them to create the NeoConservative movement under the Bush administration following 9/11, using that event as an opportunity. After a brief period of fighting in Afghanistan, the NeoCons sought to quickly run away from there, declaring "Mission Accomplished" so that they could run toward their preferred wars to re-draw the Middle East. They at first tried to declare that Saddam was behind 9/11, but when that fell apart under pointed European criticism, they then settled for going after Saddam under the pretext of "WMD". They also later knocked down Qadaffi, another Arab strongman (after burying the hatchet and having made peace with him in the wake of 9/11, they later quickly dug up that hatchet to bury it in his head).

The illegal invasion of Iraq by the NeoCons immediately triggered a European backlash which put them under ferocious fire by the Europeans. By the time the failed Bush administration ended, the NeoCons had realized that they were going to have to neutralize the Europeans too, if they wanted to completely re-draw the Middle East. Towards that end, the NeoCons then decided to take aim at Ukraine as the obvious sensitive fault line to hammer on. That's what's led to the current Ukraine-Russia war, bringing us toward the brink of WW3. Not even during the Cuban Missile Crisis (the previous most precarious moment which could have led to nuclear war) did we see such danger, due to the horrific reckless stuntsmanship that's going on today in Washington.

[sanman]

Biden's FBI showing up at a woman's house while refusing to identify themselves -- all because she posted criticisms of him on social media:

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status ... 2763166736

So are we supposed to believe the Biden whitehouse is speaking from some position of moral superiority about Kejriwal?

[vijayk]

https://www.wearesavera.org/press-relea ... supremacy/

All $oros groups are uniting

[Cybaru]

Biden's FBI showing up at a woman's house while refusing to identify themselves -- all because she posted criticisms of him on social media:

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status ... 2763166736

So are we supposed to believe the Biden whitehouse is speaking from some position of moral superiority about Kejriwal?

Very dangerous if true! Hope those guys get investigated and removed! Let's see how this unfolds.

SHouldnt they be investigating all the folks that attacked the capital? Slaxking on their real jobs and chasing butterflies! I saw the same video in another context in my feed though.. Maybe totally fake.

[Cybaru]

This is insane! Donald is really itching for govt to step in so he can play martyr.

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump- ... -with-rope

[Vayutuvan]

The NeoCons are reckless fools who are squandering what past generations of Americans painstakingly built up.
In order to keep America's body politic glued together, they are expending vast sums of money at a reckless rate, all to protect their precious foreign policy crusade.

Borrowed from the very same coutnries they are going against - China, Russia, India, Brazil, ... Also what is with appropriating USD 300 Billion of the Russian money? Totally untrustworthy ally. Everybody knew this but it was a case "apre moi le deluge" due to the alternative being China. If India replaces China, I am sure there will be a lot of demand for Indian T-Bills.

[Vayutuvan]

This is insane! Donald is really itching for govt to step in so he can play martyr.
...

TDS

[sanman]

US Congressman Recorded on Video Saying "HIroshima and Nagasaki" Must Be Done On Gaza

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politi ... 155099007/


I guess Whitehouse spokesman won't have to be asked whether such comments are acceptable, since America is the land of human rights.


Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a1hdWdFpY2s

[A_Gupta]

The Democratic Party is more of a coalition of diverse interests, like I.N.D.I.A than a party like the BJP or the CPI. Certainly the Democrats have a bit more party discipline and a long history, but can RG control Stalin or vice versa?

With the electoral system in the US favoring no more than two parties to exist, the Republican Party too used to be like that, but Trump is driving out anyone not loyal to him, and it is more like Indira Gandhi’s Cong(I). And the expelled/alienated Republican faction has no political home. In India they would start a party; a third party in the US has huge barriers to viability.

[chetak]

The Democratic Party is more of a coalition of diverse interests, like I.N.D.I.A than a party like the BJP or the CPI. Certainly the Democrats have a bit more party discipline and a long history, but can RG control Stalin or vice versa?

With the electoral system in the US favoring no more than two parties to exist, the Republican Party too used to be like that, but Trump is driving out anyone not loyal to him, and it is more like Indira Gandhi’s Cong(I). And the expelled/alienated Republican faction has no political home. In India they would start a party; a third party in the US has huge barriers to viability.

A_Gupta ji,


one is catholic and the other is protestant, and their strife is evident since the early advent of colonial times

they are competitors seeking political power and have differing interests because of it, as far as India is concerned, because of the sheer scale of resources and the unlimited quantum of the pickings involved, even if they had to genocide the locals using man made famines

common interests are control and generation of cannon fodder, land grab, political power via demographic change, use of illegal BIF funding for using the "rights" under the constitution, and using money, coercion, and muscle via the health and educational sectors to coerce conversion and use converts to trample on human rights of the majority like the dravidiyas are openly doing in TN

[disha]

Donald in 2016 may have said he is fighting for you...

But 2024 - his main agenda is to save himself and punish everyone else

IMO

1. Keep himself out of Jail
2. Keep himself from going broke..
3. Punish those he doesn't like and that may be everyone who has crossed him, includes his previous cabinet, haley, pence, Miley, jewish people who are democrats, if he doesn't like you he will try and screw you and if you are for him he might still screw you over.

4. Reward his rich friends and screw everyone else by
-- pardon all the people who attacked the capital and attacked the cops - party of law and order! yes sir!!

all to pay for huge tax cuts for Billionaires and himself.

He tried all this when he was president...

At least Trump did not go to war!

And as if Billionaires are not getting a tax cut now? Or the Obama bailout of Banks and the great wealth giveaway to corporates post-covid does not matter now. And of course Jan 6 "war on capitol"!

Anyway, above is a Blue vs Red fight and does not belong to understanding US.

[Roop]

Why do we need to discuss Trump and domestic US politics in this thread.

Well, we don't need to, obviously, but it's happening because so many members have serious TDS.