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srai wrote: ↑01 May 2024 03:36
So has Russia lost a generation too.
From Wiki Chacha -->
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
The death toll in World War 2
Military Dead (Allies): Over 16,000,000
Military Dead (Axis): Over 8,000,000
The last time I checked the history of World War 2, the Allies won. Nobody talks about the fact that the Allies lost more men than the Axis.
The war in Ukraine was an un-necessary conflict that led "Dimwit" Zelensky into murdering his own people. Russia will come out of this conflict and survive. I don't share that optimism for Ukraine.
srai wrote: ↑01 May 2024 03:36What was Ukraine supposed to do when invaded?
Perhaps not have Ukraine join NATO, even if it was just a promissory note?
Putin made it amply clear - on multiple occasions, over decades - that would be a red flag and an open invitation for war.
But the war mongers in DC never listen do they? Republicans (Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz) and Democrats (Nuland) all sleep in the same bed.
When Krushchev parked ICBMs in Cuba, that was a red flag for America. When NATO wants to do the same in Ukraine, Putin is now Satan? Come on!
Stop drinking the American Kool Aid.
srai wrote: ↑01 May 2024 03:36Both sides are going to continue to suffer tremendous losses for a long while yet. War is not ending any time soon.
The longer this continues, the greater the embarrassment for the West and for Zelensky.
srai wrote: ↑02 May 2024 15:55
sanman,
History of peoples and regions are much more complex than what you state in few words.
I honestly hope the war mongers in DC followed that advice before invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc.
Who profited off these wars, other than their MIC (Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, etc)?
The futile exercise of nation building, Western democracy, regime change, etc - in other countries - has worked out how well for the American citizen i.e. white farm boys from Iowa, Idaho or the urban black man from the American cities? Many of these young men have severe PTSD or are on wheelchairs with tubes attached to their trachea.