Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

[ricky_v]

the inc's gameplan is pretty slick it must be said, whether this is the output of the leadership that is seen publicly or targeted from abroad, it is a dangerous adversary

the main hindrance that foreign countries encounter on forcing their overt viewpoint on indians is the feeling of the freedom struggle that is prevalent in the society; now comes a party that is hailed as instrumental in the indian freedom struggle to say that the freedom moment of 1947 was a sham as the "original inhabitants" of the country never got the freedom that was availed by everyone else, the only way to counter it by a new revolution that will force the current system to its knees and lead to a redistribution of the collective gain of the country

ably propelled are also the anarchists of aap and the wider urban naxals in this movement. I will again reiterate, the utterances of the youth leader will lead the wider mass to questioning the freedom struggle, aggressive twitter and whatsapp wars will only inflame the situation as the hidden contributions of the ina, naval mutiny, by the inc system, will be pushed by the well meaning leading to even further deterioration in discourse of the country, and can lead to cleaving of the gandhiism and the church of the constitution to the masses and malcontents due to the aggro xitter rw push to counter such narratives.

whoever is playing is well informed and "understands" india quite well unlike the usual mudi shud rejine and democracy khatre mein hai.

Edited later- wordings and syntax.

So this is a political movement and should not be considered a political ploy, the yatras were just a start of the movement for agitation

[Sachin]

inc's gameplan is pretty slick it must be said, whether this is the output of the leadership that is seen publicly or targeted from abroad, it is a dangerous adversary

INC's game plan is certainly not made by Shri. Pappu Ghandi and his India based foot soldiers. They don't have the mental capacity to do that. The current programs and even the manifesto has been clearly drafted by people who know India, much better than we Indians. What fault lines to be used, and what causes society unrest all have been carefully studied. This just cannot be a R&D work done by Shri. Pappu Ghandi. Knowing the history of India, the best master planners to get involved would have been the British. Knowing their strategy of good record keeping and linking of events, and over-all project coordination. But don't think today's Britain is as smart as that of Britain during Mountbatten's prime time.

I feel that history is repeating. In 1947 when Britain wanted to 'Quit India' (under their own terms), they had meticulously brought in the Nehru-Ghandi clan, who were Britishers in Indian skin and orchestrated the partition etc. The more I read history, the more I am convinced that the so called 'freedom struggle' taught in our schools is a farce. Most likely British itself would have dictated such lessons to clueless people like Nehru, and also explanining to him how it has to be rolled out in India. The British pretty much had ensured that their stooge would be running India for many decades to come.

I feel even AAP was propped up by outside agencies/BIF; after knowing that INC under command Shri. Pappu Ghandi was drowning. An alternate foreign stooge had to be identified and propped up. The scheme started in 2000s itself. This time they used a fraud - Kejriwal - and tried to milk the Indian/Hindu sentiments for Education == Honest man. Ghoongro Seth's IIT-IIM gimmick was used to confuse gullible Indians (mainly Hindu middle class).

[Hriday]

A Kerala based psephologist reports; link below. Mathew Samuel, a social commentator is saying that many Christians are shifting to BJP.

https://twitter.com/addheeraj/status/17 ... LvTjg&s=19

Guy has talked to many congress leaders in Thrissur and they say even core cong votes/ family members including Cs have gone to SG/BJP this time. Predicting a 1 lakh+ margin for SG which i guess is possible depending on split of opposition votes

Thrissur is possibly the most glamorous and the centre of attention in entire Kerala as Suresh Gopi (SG), a former cinema super star is said to have very good winning chance there. If he wins it will be BJP's first seat in Kerala, which is known as very hostile to RSS/BJP.

What really amazes me is the utmost stupidity by the opposition.

Just on the night before Thrissur goes to polling, a police commissioner used abusive words and interrupted the very famous Thrissur pooram. Of all the politicians only SG comes to rescue the situation. Last time CPM, the ruling party promoted the violation of famous Ayyappa temple and people punished them with just 1 seat out of the 20 Loksabha seats when the CPM was at its peak popularity due to mass freebies.

Also just recently SDPI, the political party affiliated to the now banned PFI protested against a church because they dared to complain to police about the murder attempt committed against a church priest. SDPI is infamous for a provocative slogan shouted by a child in a march in Kerala. The slogan asks Hindus and Christians to be prepared for their death rites, unless they behave properly.

Recent political news in Kerala suggests that both Cong and Communists are trying their best to get Muslim votes and Christians feeling threatened. Several churches had arranged the screening of the film, The Kerala Story which tells the story of love jihad.

[sanman]

How Yogi Helped BJP Become a Political Superpower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQCKKkEJxtQ

[ricky_v]

INC's game plan is certainly not made by Shri. Pappu Ghandi and his India based foot soldiers. They don't have the mental capacity to do that. The current programs and even the manifesto has been clearly drafted by people who know India, much better than we Indians. What fault lines to be used, and what causes society unrest all have been carefully studied. This just cannot be a R&D work done by Shri. Pappu Ghandi. Knowing the history of India, the best master planners to get involved would have been the British. Knowing their strategy of good record keeping and linking of events, and over-all project coordination. But don't think today's Britain is as smart as that of Britain during Mountbatten's prime time.

the youth leader has surrounded himself with yechury, yogendra yadav, kc venugopal and the like, might be the poison morphed in their brainstorming sessions into the beast that it is today, but maybe unlikely; an external entity is the most candidate, but as you also say, the makers have understood india well

usually, it is those who wander into india for manthans or ground-level understanding on how to define india, attending disparate pieces without understanding the whole, this one is very intelligently poised and feels very personal, a sort of a "rational logic" to the continuing of the identity politics

wealth redistribution is just the catchy slogan for the masses, if you look at other utterances, the promises are much deeper and vast than that, perhaps they have been emboldened by the karnataka election method; everyone knew what the inc was promising and they willingly signed onto that in record numbers

and they have touched some of the most prickliest of fault lines to expose

I feel that history is repeating. In 1947 when Britain wanted to 'Quit India' (under their own terms), they had meticulously brought in the Nehru-Ghandi clan, who were Britishers in Indian skin and orchestrated the partition etc. The more I read history, the more I am convinced that the so called 'freedom struggle' taught in our schools is a farce. Most likely British itself would have dictated such lessons to clueless people like Nehru, and also explanining to him how it has to be rolled out in India. The British pretty much had ensured that their stooge would be running India for many decades to come.

the problem with this is that the public is not mature enough to have that conversation yet, you will see immediate self-immolations, fasting unto deaths, general anarchy if you try to slight the father in any way in understanding and properly indexing his role in the freedom struggle, looking at general public discourse, histrionics still plays an important role

the india of today is a legacy of india of 1947 that was borne out of this struggle, the makers understood this when they started with india in the constitution, the that is bharat bit was there to enforce continuity, the bjp i feel predicted this move by placing reliance on bharat indicating that the freedom struggle was but a chapter in the aeons long history, but we are still far aways from transitioning from india that was the entity of 1947 to bharat of cherished memory, it is here that the fault lines lie most raw to be exploited as this is sure to make the public excitable

I feel even AAP was propped up by outside agencies/BIF; after knowing that INC under command Shri. Pappu Ghandi was drowning. An alternate foreign stooge had to be identified and propped up. The scheme started in 2000s itself. This time they used a fraud - Kejriwal - and tried to milk the Indian/Hindu sentiments for Education == Honest man. Ghoongro Seth's IIT-IIM gimmick was used to confuse gullible Indians (mainly Hindu middle class).

quite meticulous planning, kejru was a magsasay stooge in early 2000s, for someone to have the foresight to tap him that early on.... a dangerous and intelligent adversary indeed, i too agree that it is not ukistan, but i will not be surprised if there are people of indian descent who have willingly helped them into greater understanding, but yes, incidentally, thank you anna for foisting this scorpion onto the public, very cool, an extreme gandhian move

[disha]

What is the real story behind the allegations that opposing candidates were pressured to withdraw from Gandhinagar, reducing the opposition to Amit Shah?

The real story is that no-one in sane mind and with nationalistic outlook wants to be associated with Anti Hindu CONgoons and Pappu and Pappini.

Some people think that CONgoons are the main opposition party and can hold its own against NDA+ needs a reality check. They are reduced to ~10% of the seats in entire India for 10 years in a row and are looking at another rout in 2024 elections.

The CONgoon candidate in Surat realized that he is staring at a major defeat. Particularly the mood against CONgoon is very high due to CONgoons boycotting Ram temple inaugration! Remember, 59 innocent kar sevaks returning from Ayodhya were burnt alive and in the subsequent riots mostly hindus were killed.

So the mood is not just decidedly against CONgoons, it is viciously against CONgoons. The person who got the CONgoon ticket never really wanted the CONgoons to win and has decided to join BJP. There was no pressure there, he was just looking out for his political career. Maybe he did not want to be under house arrest by CONgoons like the Khera lady was subjected to.

The rest of the candidates were from BSP or the Log party or independents. The BSP person rightfully took the call of saving money. That is saving his own money. The rest of the independents or the the log party candidate were just in for the run. With CONgoon party out of the fray, it was a done deal that the voting will be just a formality. At that moment, the independents and BSP also decided to stay put. Of course, the mediapimps will do what it does best, which is pimp the news and whore it out with half truths to generate some TRP and some disdain from west.

Also A_Gupta'ji, the question you need to ask is, what is the real story being Pappu skipping Amethi and running from Rae Bareilly? And why was Pappu not seen in campaign while PM Modi took whirlwind tours till wee hours?

And what about the Rohit Vemula case? Did not Pappu and Pappini and Chornia raise a national hue and cry on that? Where are they on Sandeshkhali?

I think CONgoons and their supporters have more to answer for.

[ricky_v]

a discussion with radhika khera, the latest spokesperson to have left the inc, listen to it all, she was mistreated in the party's office, a national level spokesperson

as an aside, this is a new show from india tv, has saurabh sharma and deepak chaurasia, deepak recently left / was fired from zee news, and he is one of the most recognisable and stable journos / anchors

india tv has been getting a lot of excellent journalists recently in their shows, i inadvertently end up shilling for them usually

[chetak]

PM Modi said "For the first time, I am telling Muslim community to introspect"

"If you keep thinking that you will decide who will be in power & who will be dethroned, you will spoil the future of your children"

"Muslim community is evolving across the globe. In Saudi, Yoga is a subject of official syllabus. Here if we do, they will call us Anti MusIim".

"Country is progressing. If your community is feeling deprived, Think what's the reason for it?" - PM Modi in new form

[chetak]

despite Modi providing a lot of toilets, some urban naxals are still crapping out in the open

[chetak]

Association of sunni muslims, dubai is offering full financial support to muslims to fly to karnataka to defeat 'fascist forces' and restore congress.

Meanwhile Hindus are sleeping at home as it is a hot summer or worse lying that Mualana Modi has done nothing for Hindus.

Not just jihadis, even urban naxals and dhongi Hindus are putting all their might to bring back muslim league.

While Hindus whine and moan about everything, worse don't even go out to vote.

[vijayk]

despite Modi providing a lot of toilets, some urban naxals are still crapping out in the open

Prashant Bhushan, Dhushtant Dave, Karuna Nundy and Vrinda Grover needs to locked up for couple of decades

[vijayk]

Hearing 3rd phase has been pretty good for BJP ... any other perspective?

Maharashtra Election Update : Great confusion among voters. Many Anti-BJP and Anti-Modi Voters are voting for Clock (Ajit Pawar) and Bow & Arrow (Shivsena) symbol

[A_Gupta]

Remember the narrative that India is a an electoral autocracy?

Every such instance furthers this narrative. It will be used to attack the credibility of the election results.

So far Surat, Indore and Gandhinagar.

Puri is entirely different.

[vijayk]

[Sachin]

Mean while in Haryana..
Nayab Saini-led BJP govt in Haryana hangs in balance after 3 independent MLAs withdraw support. Seculars are also striking back.

[Haresh]

Can Modi finally win over the southern states and reshape India’s electoral map?

"The state’s chief ministers have also emerged as some of Modi’s fiercest critics and accused the BJP of depriving them of tax income and investment to punish and undermine their governments."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... ctoral-map

[disha]

Remember the narrative that India is a an electoral autocracy?

Every such instance furthers this narrative. It will be used to attack the credibility of the election results.

So far Surat, Indore and Gandhinagar.

Puri is entirely different.

The above (electoral autocracy) is a false narrative and giving it more air time and think time and talk time, you are pushing the false narrative further. Dimple Yadav won uncontested in 2012. Where was the dhoti shiver of electoral autocracy then?

Pratyush'ji, there is no need to put pants over dhoti just because you think wearing the dhoti is embarrassing. The local voters of Surat, Indore and Gandhinagar are smart and decided that why spend money where the mood of the public is decidedly against CONgoons.

Not just that, do you think that you can with a straight face stand in front of voters and defend Pappu, Pappini and Chornia?

If you cannot objectively defend Pappu, Pappini and Chornia on this anonymous forum, then please have some empathy for the candidate. Since the candidate has to go and face the voters. And he can go only to so many special samudays with a straight face and do anti-modi 2002 narrative. Hence empathy matters before you start being judgemental.

[williams]

despite Modi providing a lot of toilets, some urban naxals are still crapping out in the open

Prashant Bhushan, Dhushtant Dave, Karuna Nundy and Vrinda Grover needs to locked up for couple of decades

A lot of these characters are formed in our universities (think JNU) and civil service systems. Until we put some serious effort to cleanup our history/science books, get more money to organizations like ASI and make better research publications that debunk many of these western constructed myths (Aryan Invasion theory, Brits taught us secularism, and democracy, Indian traditional medicine is not scientific etc., etc.,) we will be singing in the same tune come 2029.

While a lof of good dev work has been done in 2019. I still feel wanting on education and judicial enforcement reforms. Hopefully 2024 mandate will get us there, quickly.

[Hriday]

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/17823453 ... mVnrA&s=19

Believers Eastern Church in Kerala extended their support to BJP candidate from Pathanamthitta, Anil Antony. He attended a meeting of the Church today where Kerala Metropolitan Mar Silvanos was also present.

#LokSabhaElections2024   

See the photos in the above tweet, BJP candidate addressing the church officials from a dias inside a church! In the next, several church officials are seen holding BJP manifesto and posing for a photo! These kind of events are unthinkable about 5 or 10 years ago. Can't be a sudden love for development, most likely church sees a serious threat to them from Islamic extremism. Kerala Congress just recently stated that they will not the reject the votes from SDPI supporters.

It was reported elsewhere that about ten thousand families were attached with this church in Pathanamthitta alone. These events may not result into mass voting for BJP for now, but it is a great start.

[krithivas]

Sri. Annamalai beautifully explained - TN is allocated more from the Center but the actual monies are directly deposited to the accounts of the beneficiaries and directly disbursed to the various schemes. Mr. Stalin is loosing out big not being part of that money flow, hence the whining.

Can Modi finally win over the southern states and reshape India’s electoral map?

"The state’s chief ministers have also emerged as some of Modi’s fiercest critics and accused the BJP of depriving them of tax income and investment to punish and undermine their governments."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... ctoral-map

[Hriday]

Couple of predictions based on technical analysis and mathematical modelling. One guy in X is said to have accurately predicted in 2014 , the results of 2014, 2019 elections and also for 2024 which generally matches with opinion polls. Can anybody here give a short description of the basis of these modellings ?

1.A.
https://twitter.com/ReverseTanjent/stat ... xpQbQ&s=19

1.B.
https://twitter.com/JumbuTweeple/status ... 6Ym9Q&s=19

2.
https://twitter.com/DRAJEY/status/17649 ... _N83g&s=19

This needs one clarification.
As per mathematical model, BJP should get between 350- 376 seats.
If NDA tally crosses 380, then NDA will reach 431.

[A_Gupta]

The events in Surat and Indore have nothing to do with the local voters, but with machinations of the local BJP leaders.

If talking facts furthers the narrative of electoral autocracy, that is just too bad. You are blaming the reporter rather than the perpetrators and are promoting a cancel culture.

Just because someone is a member of the BJP it does not mean their actions are in the national interest. Inducing an opposition candidate to defect leaving no time to nominate another candidate, and such shenanigans to win unopposed and that too in seats which the BJP is going to win anyway is condemnable and indeed plays into the charge of electoral autocracy.

But what people say is less important than how the eventual reaction to the BJP among the voters is going to happen. Not in this election but some time this attitude will lead to BJP’s downfall long before the goals of 2047 are achieved.

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/TimesAlgebraIND/sta ... 5261701593

Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND
Best Phase So Far.. Sensational reports coming

Paging Dilbuji again ...

[disha]

The events in Surat and Indore have nothing to do with the local voters, but with machinations of the local BJP leaders.

If talking facts furthers the narrative of electoral autocracy, that is just too bad. You are blaming the reporter rather than the perpetrators and are promoting a cancel culture.

It is easy to sit in an armchair and pontificate like a pseudo-liberal communist on "electoral autocracy". Define the word "electoral autocracy" first. And when you say the word "perpetrators" you have already made a judgement call that they are criminals and done an horrendous criminal act. Aren't you the one indulging in cancel culture? Cancelling what the local citizens want?

I find this big words "electoral autocracy" suddenly invented in the context of 2024 when no such thing existed when Dimple Yadav was selected in 2012 or Pappu broke all laws in 2014 to get elected from Amethi. Or no "electoral autocracy" exists for you in large swathes of K'tka, TN and W.Bengal. Or there is no "electoral autocracy" when Pappu and team say the word "vote jihad".

And where is the word "electoral autocracy" coming from? Do you even now the source here? Please do not plead ignorance.

Here is a clue: https://thewire.in/government/since-201 ... dem-report

But what people say is less important than how the eventual reaction to the BJP among the voters is going to happen. Not in this election but some time this attitude will lead to BJP’s downfall long before the goals of 2047 are achieved.

If BJP gets arrogant and becomes corrupt like CONgoons and goes anti-national then they do deserve to be put in dustbin of history. 2047 goals are achieved or not is a generation away. To achieve that, first we need to get rid of anti-national divisive parties like CONgoons. So the road to 2047 requires CONgoons to be decisively terminated.

Just because someone is a member of the BJP it does not mean their actions are in the national interest. Inducing an opposition candidate to defect leaving no time to nominate another candidate, and such shenanigans to win unopposed and that too in seats which the BJP is going to win anyway is condemnable and indeed plays into the charge of electoral autocracy.

Here is a situation where you are the judge, the jury and the executioner! You already judged that the "perpetrators" indulged in "electoral autocracy" and in your own convoluted way justify why it is an "electoral autocracy" and now merrily executing your judgement stating that such actions are tsk: tsk: not in national interest!

Have you even tried to talk to the people on the ground after the temple of Lord Rama was inaugurated? Do you even know the donations going from the city of Surat to Ayodhya?

Here is a clue https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 65362.cms

Donation of gold measured in Kilograms. Donation of diamonds and other items. This is from prominent citizens of Surat. I can only imagine the donations from the hoi-polloi and the immeasurable faith.

And to this, Pappu and CONgoons boycott the temple. Their allies talk nonsense and play into divisive politics. And when citizens reject such negative politics viciously, a_gupta'ji, you use high-falutin words like "electoral autocracy" to pass judgement on the people and also execute them. I think that is an arrogant position since you have access to a keyboard and language and your words are read all over the world, while the citizen there just wants to teach a lesson to a divisive dynastic party.

Anyway, you do not have to worry about 2047. Indian voter is far smarter overall than you and me put together. And India is the only country in the world which is holding free, fair and peaceful elections at such a massive scale. No other country comes closer. Not even the so called land of the free and the so called land of the brave. And no constitutional monarchies and erstwhile colonial states can pass judgement that you are so whole-heartedly approving of.

[vijayk]

[hgupta]

Absolute numbers did go up but as a percentage, there was a slight decline due to increased population.

[vijayk]

^^ The numbers might go up little more

[Sumeet]

What potent stuff this guy smokes ? He is totally beyond repair. All this utter nonsense that he espouses that too with full confidence.

I wish PM takes this up with as much fervor as he takes religion based reservation issue.

BJP should play this on big sreen in front of all tech parks, college campuses and high schools so that folks can realize what level of moron is top prospect to become our PM should INDIA alliance win.

[KL Dubey]

What potent stuff this guy smokes ? He is totally beyond repair. All this utter nonsense that he espouses that too with full confidence.

Everyone is doing their part - Pappu will talk BS, the BJP including NaMo will exploit it, and the media will go to town with it.

BJP will not find a better "karyakarta-at-large" than Pappu.

As Kejriwal used to say: "sab miley hue hain, ji!"

[triank]

despite Modi providing a lot of toilets, some urban naxals are still crapping out in the open

what bl00dy a$$wipe rag is this which provided its space for this high-flying turd?! this walking faecal matter had torn off the map of proposed Ram Mandir/land-area under dispute during court-proceedings & used to be in news at that time for his mad ramblings & show of anger! there are a few like him who deserve to be 'lunched' by hindus if they ever venture out in public asking for electoral-support for their ilk, the soles of the boots of which they 'grace' by sticking as turd-pieces (one other being MSY, the puki-weinersucker who once abused Maj. Gen. Bakshi ji on live tv during a debate even when the latter was utmost civil & polite to him)!!
agree with vijayk ji & williams ji

Association of sunni muslims, dubai is offering full financial support to muslims to fly to karnataka to defeat 'fascist forces' and restore congress.

Meanwhile Hindus are sleeping at home as it is a hot summer or worse lying that Mualana Modi has done nothing for Hindus.

Not just jihadis, even urban naxals and dhongi Hindus are putting all their might to bring back muslim league.

While Hindus whine and moan about everything, worse don't even go out to vote.

this 'letter' read unreal..and it is. not true. but nevertheless, good to spread onlee among the lazybummed hindus. barely anyone anyway verifies whatsapp fwds. we havent taken any 'contract' to always tell the truth & verified when the enemy doesnt bother. everything goes.

[KL Dubey]

Still on the light note, how well a person performs their role is more important than whether they can perform someone else's role. Pappu may get a few crore votes but is overall a failure. Ranganathan and Abhijit do their commentary job well and don't want or need a few crore votes - they are successful in what they do.

Again, Modi (and his close associates) are the cause of Pappu's deranged behavior (vinashakale viparitabuddhi), and the cause of desertion of leaders/workers/voters from the INC.

People like Ranganathan (JNU genetic material) and Abhijit are amateurs of very mediocre quality. They can't connect things properly nor determine cause and effect.

They are fine for entertainment, I agree that is a success and valuable in its own right.

[Deans]

Couple of predictions based on technical analysis and mathematical modelling. One guy in X is said to have accurately predicted in 2014 , the results of 2014, 2019 elections and also for 2024 which generally matches with opinion polls. Can anybody here give a short description of the basis of these modellings ?

1.A.
https://twitter.com/ReverseTanjent/stat ... xpQbQ&s=19

1.B.
https://twitter.com/JumbuTweeple/status ... 6Ym9Q&s=19

2.
https://twitter.com/DRAJEY/status/17649 ... _N83g&s=19

This needs one clarification.
As per mathematical model, BJP should get between 350- 376 seats.
If NDA tally crosses 380, then NDA will reach 431.

It isn't a mathematical model, its an educated guess.
I did my number crunching based on 2019 data and have a range of 330-385 for the NDA.

[Deans]

Dr Praveen Patil's blog is open for subscription after a glitch. 5forty3.org.
I am not pasting the reports here (the free summary is not useful), as he depends on paid subs. Just some highlights:

TN - No of votes for BJP increased from 15 lac to 75+ lac since 2019. Can result in 1-2 seats.
Karnataka - Loss of 3-4 seats, despite the tie up with the JDS.
Kerala - fighting chance in 2 seats.
UP - Increase in seats from 2019, due to split opposition (BSP taking away Muslim votes) and more consolidation of Hindu votes.
WB - So far, repeat of 2019, BJP retaining the seats they won in North Bengal.
Assam - Gains for BJP.
Bihar - looks like a repeat of 2019 for NDA.
Maharashtra - NDA has an edge though its too close to call. He's predicting Supriya (Sharad Pawar Proxy) will lose Baramati.
He is not predicting for Guj/Raj/MP/CH as he does not have the resources, but assumes it will be the same sweep as 2019.

[ricky_v]

Nah, for Rajasthan, Amit shah is on public record a couple of days back that they are losing 1-2seats, if he has stated till 2 , then the number is higher, that is what I have heard as a feedback as well, that bjp is fighting a very tough fight in 4-5 seats in rj

[vimal]

Spoke to my extended family across India and the vote is split this time between BJP and Congress unlike 100% BJP last time.
There is a lot of propaganda spewing from various SM sources that is making things tough. Madhu Kishwar is constantly spewing nonsense against Modi. She was a long time Congi darbari who flipped after 2014 to be close to power but her loyalty is now completely exposed.

[Sachin]

He is not predicting for Guj/Raj/MP/CH as he does not have the resources, but assumes it will be the same sweep as 2019.

Nah, for Rajasthan, Amit shah is on public record a couple of days back that they are losing 1-2seats,

Spoke to my extended family across India and the vote is split this time between BJP and Congress unlike 100% BJP last time.

So what is the gut feeling, gents? BJP and NDA will still have sufficient majority to form a government? I think 400 seats any ways is A Bridge Too Far. All said and done, if BJP/NDA has the majority even by 1 seat they can form the government. Only thing lacking would be the brute majority. But I do admit; The I.N.D.I.A (mainly the Congress) has done some good job in getting a manifesto. If implemented it will ruin the country; but at least they are quite open about their plan. BJP & NDA does not show any future plan (other than 400 seats which should be an internal target; and not some thing to ask voters to help out).

[Pratyush]

We are seeing an extremely sophisticated information warfare campaign deployed by the Congress party.

I am seeing a narrative in my social circle where I am seeing fantastical claims of corruption from the Modi government. But it falls flat when basic facts are pointed out. That too at my level.

I think that the BJP central command is aware of this phenomenon. That's why they have brought in emotive issues to the foreground. As a response to this behaviour.

[ricky_v]

So what is the gut feeling, gents? BJP and NDA will still have sufficient majority to form a government? I think 400 seats any ways is A Bridge Too Far. All said and done, if BJP/NDA has the majority even by 1 seat they can form the government. Only thing lacking would be the brute majority. But I do admit; The I.N.D.I.A (mainly the Congress) has done some good job in getting a manifesto. If implemented it will ruin the country; but at least they are quite open about their plan. BJP & NDA does not show any future plan (other than 400 seats which should be an internal target; and not some thing to ask voters to help out).

I remain quite bullish on the bjps performance, and in my estimate will end up higher than the 303 last time, closer to 325-330 would be my assumption, but, yeah, 400 is indeed looking a bridge too far

First the negatives:
RJ- is in danger of losing ~5 seats, AS on record publicly admitting loss in 2, the party has to seriously introspect, first the vidhan sabha win margin was tight, and now this result, f/b from ground is there is dissatisfaction with the cm, don't know how that translates into ls polls

HR- will probably lose 2-3seats, no poll partner, current government unstable

Will further lose in KA, and maybe HP, UK

Positives
UP, last time was 61 seats, this time they are targeting 78-80 and most field journos agree with this assessment, it will cover all the above losses and increase tally

MH- field journos estimate 40-45

BH, WB will hold

AS- will marginally increase

OD will increase

And I have discounted the hype for Anamalai, and assumed 0 from TN and KL, though I think, 2-3seats from these 2 states combined is possible

TG have heard that it's MP count will be greater than it's MLA count

All in all, should be comfortable margin victory

[SRajesh]

To all members
A question:
Given the dire outlook for the dotty alliance (as predicted by pre poll surveys and in the X chatter) what is the intention of the BIF masters vis-a-vis election results??
1. Are we going to see mass riots and pitched battles on the streets??
2. If so what groups will be activated??
3. Will an alliance between Peaceful and Dalit (sorry to use that phrase but forced to as that is what dotty alliance and others keep referring to) groups fructify to such an extent to start a mass movement
4. If not will the Entitled want to repeat history re what happened between 1937 and 1946 provincial elections??
5. Will that then take the form of a demand for a. Proportional representation or b. separate electorate??
I am seriously worried about the hidden agenda of the BIF's
And to this mix add the MOU between INC and CCP: meaning what territory being agreed to be handed over and what markets to be opened??

[AshishA]

Modi has taken the name of Ambani and Adani and has accused Congress of taking money from them. That's kind of sudden. I wonder what is happening in the background