anyway we are down to disagreeing about the language of the report lets give it a break I dont think our exchange is meaningful any more -- at least not for me -- I am just repeating things now.
We have already agreed on the main point IMHO -- lets wait and see.
Anyway to keep things in perspective,
all the indignation about the injustices faced by the Arjun stems from the fact that so far the news coming in regularly was that Arjun had made a lot of progress.And also that everything is not so hunky-dory about the T-90.Also brings out the problem with the army..itself calling for comparative trials when the Arjun wasnt ready and chickening out when it was.
As reported by Ajai Shukla from September last year:
Arjun tank's comparative trials called off
Sunday, September 9, 2007 (New Delhi)
For three decades, India's Arjun tank project has struggled and has been scoffed at by experts and dismissed by the army.
The army, in fact, refused to accept the tank into service until comparative trials were held pitting the Arjun against the army's Russian T-72 and T-90 tanks.
But now, mysteriously the army has asked the Ministry of Defence to call off the comparative trials.
The T-72 has proved itself over years, says the army, and the T-90 is even better - only the Arjun needs to prove itself.
Meanwhile, the army is going ahead with buying 347 more T-90s paying a billion dollars to Russia. The army chief will be visiting Russia next week and the defence minister will follow next month.
The MoD itself had insisted on comparative trials before this turnaround. Now it says that you can't compare a 46-tonne T-90 with a 60-tonne Arjun.
''People have been asking that question, how can you compare a 40 tonne class tank with a 60 tonne class tank, and I think the golden question is that irrespective of the weight and other features, if one is given a choice as to which tank he'd like to ride to battle, which tank would you choose?'' said Major General HM Singh, Additional DG, CVRDE.
''Over a period of five years, we have evaluated this tank in the deserts of Rajasthan. We have evaluated over 70,000 km of cumulative run with 15 tanks we have fired over 10,000 rounds,'' said R Jayakumar, Associate Director, CVRDE.
But success came only in 2005 after the Arjun hardened its electronics to work in the desert heat and fixed chronic suspension leakages.
The army then demanded that the tank be able to drive for 20 minutes under six feet of water, and that's been done too.
Now as the Arjun races over these rumble strips, it has logged up notable successes.
In the year 2000, the Indian Kanchan Armour proved itself in trials - a T-72 couldn't penetrate the Arjun even from point blank range.
Last June firing trials noted that the ''accuracy and consistency of the Arjun tank was proved beyond doubt.''
While the T-90 plans to install an air conditioner to keep its electronics working, the Arjun's electronics now work at up to 60 degrees.
The MoD admitted this year to the Parliament's Committee on Defence that the ''Arjun's firing accuracy is far superior to other two tanks.''
And that that ''MBT Arjun is specifically configured for Indian Army requirements, and the T-90 does not have some of the advanced features of MBT Arjun.
[quote]Ajai Shukla: The desert duel that wasn`t
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi September 11, 2007
But this long-playing tale has taken a rousing twist comparable with the most unlikely of underdog success stories. Recent technological breakthroughs in the Arjun project appear to have transformed what was an underperforming liability into something close to a world class 60-tonne Main Battle Tank (MBT) that could literally kick sand in the face of the Russian favourites. Army sources reveal that there was apprehension that the DRDO-built Arjun could outperform the Russian-origin tanks in all three determinants of tank ability: mobility, firepower, and protection. Now, the Ministry of Defence (MoD), at the request of the army, has cancelled the comparative trials.
Confirming that comparative trials would no longer be held, the MoD reasoned that it wasnâ€™t possible to compare â€œa Maruti with a BMWâ€