Any idea about the 1st prototype and if it is in flying condition or notKakarat wrote: No - this is the Second Prototype
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Any idea about the 1st prototype and if it is in flying condition or notKakarat wrote: No - this is the Second Prototype
Avinandan wrote:[
Any idea about the 1st prototype and if it is in flying condition or not?
It is in flying condition and being fitted with new engineAvinandan wrote:Any idea about the 1st prototype and if it is in flying condition or notKakarat wrote: No - this is the Second Prototype?
Can someone confirm the amount India's paying for the Mirage 2000 upgrade deal with France? We've all seen contradicting reportsForum members are required to register with a displayed name or username that should appear like a common human name and which does NOT feature a call sign, an abbreviation, names with numbers, ALL CAPS, or names that may carry a message or meaning that may be interpreted as inappropriate.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 023458.cms
A multi-billion Euro deal to upgrade India's ageing 52 Mirage-2000 fighter aircraft would be the highlight of the visit of French president Nicholas Sarkozy in New Delhi from Friday.
Under the deal, worth 1.5 billion Euros cleared by the Cabinet Committee on Security, the Indian Mirages would be upgraded to Mirage 2000-9 levels as flown by the French Air Force.
I've also seen figures of $1bn for this deal.NEW DELHI: India is moving towards signing a big contract with France for the upgrade of the 51 Mirage-2000 fighter jets in the IAF combat fleet,which comes after a $964 million deal was inked with Russia to upgrade 63 MiG-29s.
The bone of contention between India and France for the Mirage-2000 upgrade, however, remains the huge cost of the deal, which is in the region of 1 billion Euro.
The link you posted mentions thisnikhil_t wrote:Can any of the gurus elaborate why the price is so high when the radar/engine is not even being changed?
So the radars ARE being changed! And correct me if i'm wrong guys, the main barometer of an aircraft's life is its engine. So if the operational life of the M2Ks are being enhanced by a good 25 years, the engines must be undergoing some kind of overhaul, if not being completely changed.The upgradation will involve advanced radars, avionics and arming them with air-to-air missiles with longer reach beyond visual range.
Regarding PAK-FA's design, i share your views. i believe much study and research has gone into the designs of the Raptor and JSF, which do look similar at first glance. So there must be something unique about that design that has made it the optimum design as far as 'stealth by design' is concerned. So no surprise that the Russians have gone for something similar. Trivia: IIRC, the Mig-29s and Su-27 Flanker family are both inspired by a common aerodynamics study, so a little similar by design as well.SaiK wrote:pakfa from the looks like JSF copy, except a back Sukhoi look, with its large emitting exhausts.
btw, after obama's paki-centric attitude thus far, jsf or even Super hornets have taken a back seat for mmrca contract.
Rafale and LCA might share the same engines in the future.
Maybe OT, but relevant to the news:Kakarat wrote:Heavy rains due to cloud burst in the Upper Kameng sector of Arunachal washed off large tracts of roads and ridges between Tenga and Birpur.
The radar is being changed. its going to be the RDY-2, which has better A2G modes, including a high-resolution synthetic aperture radar (SAR) imaging mode with a moving target indicator (MTI) capability to provide an all-weather, day/night targeting capability. Its got low-probability-of-intercept (LPI) operation, which basically means that the output pattern varies in a seemingly random pattern that prevents an adversary RWR from recognizing that it has been targeted. (really handy feature IMO)nikhil_t wrote: Can any of the gurus elaborate why the price is so high when the radar/engine is not even being changed?
HIGH flyers from RAF Lyneham have been sharing their airbourne expertise with their Indian counterparts.
Two officers from the Indian Air Force visited RAF Lyneham to see how the Wiltshire base operates the J–Type Hercules, of which it has ordered six.
Wing Commander Mansij Lal and Wing Commander Simranpal Singh Birdi got to see all aspects of Hercules’ operational work.
As well as night and day time flying operations they also got to experience low level flying in a Hercules and were there during a number of air drops.
RAF Lyneham’s station commander, Group Captain Mike Neville, said: “We were delighted that we were able to share our experiences of air transport operations with the Indian Air Force and hope that this will be the start of a fruitful relationship with a fellow J-Type Hercules operator.”
Oye Juggi PapeyJuggi G wrote:Indian Express
Mirage upgrade shouldn’t wait till LS polls: France
Rakesh Sinha
Posted: Nov 07, 2008
(The writer is in France as part of a media group invited by Thales)
Are these the mongol version ? Why are we still using the MiGs ? What about the training on Hawks ?MIG-21 crashes in Assam, pilots safe
12 Nov 2008, 1201 hrs IST, PTI
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indi ... 703345.cms
SIBSAGAR (Assam): A MIG-21 trainer fighter aircraft of Indian Air Force crashed in upper Assam's Sibsagar district this morning but the two pilots bailed out safely.
The MIG crashed at Mathurapur near Gariapathar at about 10.45 am within three minutes of flying from Chabua airbase in Dibrugarh district, IAF sources said.
Squadron Leader Subhandeep and Wing Commander Nanda, the two pilots of the MIG jet aircraft, ejected and landed safely with the help of their parachutes, the sources said.
Air Force and police officers have rushed to the spot and are investigating, they said.
MIG-21 aircraft are commonly derided as "Flying Coffin" because of the frequent accidents involving the planes and the casualties suffered.
Yes it was the mongol version. And unit type conversion training would still be dependent on the actual two seater version of the same aircraft, even if hawks were available.Nayak wrote:Are these the mongol version ? Why are we still using the MiGs ? What about the training on Hawks ?
India to upgrade 9 airbases along Pakistani border
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg7_12
NEW DELHI: India has planned to upgrade nine airbases falling under its Western Air Command along the Pakistani border. Hindan airbase, near the capital, will be the first to be equipped with advanced electronic gadgets enabling it to operate all types of aircrafts including fighters and transport fleets. According to media report, Western Air Command chief Air Marshal Pranab Kumar Barbora said nine airbases would be modernised in accordance with the Modernisation of Air Field Infrastructure (MAFI) programme. In total, the Indian Air Force will upgrade 39 of its airfields in India as it is going to induct 126 multi-role aircrafts in five years. Since these aircrafts would have modern avionics, the ground systems would have to be compatible with it. C-130J Hercules transport planes would also be operated from Hindan airbase. app
Maybe Snooping for a Good Place for a Rave PartyAvinandan wrote:Yesterday, I saw couple of Mirages doing rounds.
Any idea what they are doing here in Pune?
How come the indian media donot cover these news while pakis do???Nayak wrote:India to upgrade 9 airbases along Pakistani border
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg7_12
NEW DELHI: India has planned to upgrade nine airbases falling under its Western Air Command along the Pakistani border. Hindan airbase, near the capital, will be the first to be equipped with advanced electronic gadgets enabling it to operate all types of aircrafts including fighters and transport fleets. According to media report, Western Air Command chief Air Marshal Pranab Kumar Barbora said nine airbases would be modernised in accordance with the Modernisation of Air Field Infrastructure (MAFI) programme. In total, the Indian Air Force will upgrade 39 of its airfields in India as it is going to induct 126 multi-role aircrafts in five years. Since these aircrafts would have modern avionics, the ground systems would have to be compatible with it. C-130J Hercules transport planes would also be operated from Hindan airbase. app
Maybe for a small friendly encounter with the Su-30 for the Sukhoi boys to validate some new tactics?Avinandan wrote:Yesterday, I saw couple of Mirages doing rounds.
Any idea what they are doing here in Pune?
this confirms other report of 30 drdo rohini radars and iaf very pleased with system!!On procurement of radars, he said that the IAF had taken the first delivery of Rohini three dimensional radar from the DRDO and 30 were expected in four to five years.
"We are pleased with the Rohini radar. The performance is excellent", he said, adding that other radars were coming along, following a joint venture between DRDO and BEL.
let them bugger off..its because of Bell that the Light Utility Cheetah replacement tender was reopened, which makes me wonder what they were doing during the previous bid regarding offsets.Kakarat wrote:Bell quits IAF's light utility chopper bids
New Delhi
, Nov 13: After withdrawing its bid from the Indian Air Force's (IAF) attack helicopter deal, US chopper manufacturer Bell has now backed off from the contest for 197 light utility helicopters (LUHs).
"We are not participating in the competition as our senior management felt it was not feasible for the company to comply with the offsets clause in the tender documents," a Bell Helicopters India Incorporated official said on Thursday.
The decision of Bell comes within a month of it exiting the attack helicopter bids citing problems with procurement procedure.
India had issued the request for proposals (RFP) for the 197 LUHs this July.
Bell claimed the Indian Defence Ministry had put down clauses under which the original equipment manufacturer winning the contract was bound to plough back 50 percent of the deal amount to India as offsets, which was hard for them to comply with.
In fact, India was forced to issue a fresh tender for its LUH requirements, after cancelling the original RFP in December last following objections raised by Bell over rejection of its bids in favour of French major Eurocopter's AS-355 'Fennec'.
Bell and Eurocopter were the two final contenders and India had decided to put its weight with 'Fennec' after technical evaluation.
Bureau Report
No, other than Eurocopter another European company Italian Agusta/Finmeccanica would also be in the race with their AW109 model. This is the same model which is already in service with SAAF, Malaysian Armed Force, US Coast Guard.vavinash wrote:Since there is no other competitor does it mean Eurocopter gets the deal or can HAL pitch the LOH?
After the first prototype's maiden flight in March 2009, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) says LCH should be ready for the initial operational clearance (IOC) by December 2010,'' a senior defence ministry official told TOI.
If this doesn't call for the Hinds to be unleashed, nothing does....cbelwal wrote:Shooting at an IAF chopper and killing a flight engineer is serious escalation on part of the Naxals
Chopper shot at in Chhattisgarh, engineer killed
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chha ... 714503.cms