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Kiren Rijiju, Arunachal MP, has impressive vision and strategy for Indo-Chinese relations
At least 3-4 border points must be opened for trade on the Arunachal border. Once that happens, there will be trade and customs officials manning the border crossings and somewhere down the line, even China will have to admit it to be a de facto border.”
We need a trans-Himalayan highway. Already the trans-Arunachal highway has been proposed. But the border areas to the north need to be connected too. We cannot think only in terms of economic feasibility when it is a question of national security and the supreme interest of the nation. "
He prescribes the setting up of an institution dedicated to the study of China. “The major concern here should be about how to build a relationship with China. Surplus suspicion and trust deficit. We need to properly formulate a China policy. We need to build a special institution to study and research China and then led them advise and handle our relationship with China. We need to take this forward on two fronts.
It may be grandiose, but perhaps w/vehicles of communication such as BR monitor/SRR, we could play a role in this.
The media, the papers; our resources are being wasted on incessant talk about Pakistan and the US. We should be looking at the north east not as the eastern end of India, but the beginning of East Asia and Southeast Asia. A bridge to East Asia and Southeast Asia.”
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what happened? no mention of the anniversary? i did not see any editorial in the chindu, also. apparently, nobody knows how many students were slaughtered on that day to propitiate the gods of harmony that day. :shock:
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Nigeria: Nafdac Seizes N32 Million Fake Anti-Malarial Drugs
Orhii was emphatic that although the labels on the products indicated they were manufactured in India, the bill of lading showed the port of loading to be Xingang in China, and the exporter as Heihe Cheng Feng Trading co, Ltd. (Shenzhen Shenghetai Trading Co. Ltd).

Laboratory tests by the agency showed that the fake antimalarials which were produced in China but labelled "Made in India," contained only sulfadioxine and no pyrimethamine.
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To keep the memory alive.
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India’s unwise military moves

Global Times
http://opinion.globaltimes.cn/editorial ... 36174.html
09 June 11 2009
posted in full due to doubts about archiving

In the last few days, India has dispatched roughly 60,000 troops to its border with China, the scene of enduring territorial disputes between the two countries.

J.J. Singh, the Indian governor of the controversial area, said the move was intended to “meet future security challenges” from China. Meanwhile, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh claimed, despite cooperative India-China relations, his government would make no concessions to China on territorial disputes.

The tough posture Singh’s new government has taken may win some applause among India’s domestic nationalists. But it is dangerous if it is based on a false anticipation that China will cave in.

India has long held contradictory views on China. Another big Asian country, India is frustrated that China’s rise has captured much of the world’s attention. Proud of its “advanced political system,” India feels superior to China. However, it faces a disappointing domestic situation which is unstable compared with China’s.

India likes to brag about its sustainable development, but worries that it is being left behind by China. China is seen in India as both a potential threat and a competitor to surpass.

But India can’t actually compete with China in a number of areas, like international influence, overall national power and economic scale. India apparently has not yet realized this.
Indian politicians these days seem to think their country would be doing China a huge favor simply by not joining the “ring around China” established by the US and Japan.

India’s growing power would have a significant impact on the balance of this equation, which has led India to think that fear and gratitude for its restraint will cause China to defer to it on territorial disputes.

But this is wishful thinking, as China won’t make any compromises in its border disputes with India. And while China wishes to coexist peacefully with India, this desire isn’t born out of fear.

India’s current course can only lead to a rivalry between the two countries. India needs
to consider whether or not it can afford the consequences of a potential confrontation with China. It should also be asking itself why it hasn’t forged the stable and friendly relationship with China that China enjoys with many of India’s neighbors, like Pakistan, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

Any aggressive moves will certainly not aid the development of good relations with China. India should examine its attitude and preconceptions; it will need to adjust if it hopes to cooperate with China and achieve a mutually beneficial outcome.
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J.J. Singh, the Indian governor of the controversial area
How can it be a controversial area
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A writer from country which believes in all sort of clandestine activities, nuke proliferation, freedom suppression, fake drug manufacture, using tanks against students, blocking sites like msn messenger and youtube is talking of in stability and poor conditions in India. Only a matter of time and China will explode through these seams. We must confess they hate success of democracy in India.
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http://www.fpri.org/footnotes/1220.2007 ... china.html
China has a ruthless free market, no regulation, no safety standards, no FDA, no CDC, no NIH. It’s also the world leader for people dying in industrial accidents, and about 400,000 each year die from drinking the water, which is unpotable. A Chinese journalist recently went to 10 Chinese hospitals wanting to get his blood tested. So he complained of certain aches and pains that he knew would cause them to test his blood. But he didn’t give them his blood, he carried in a thermos with tea and poured that into the cups. Eight of the ten reported to him that he had the most serious blood disease and that it would cost them endless money for treatment.
Go to the railroad station at midnight, and you will see tens of thousands of people sleeping in the street. It is probably the most unequal stable society in the world. Income in the poorest rural areas has been declining. There’s no union
China is said to have 16 of the 20 most polluted cities in the world, and some would say it would be 20 out of 20 if they didn’t lie about the other four. Everything is corrupt. The only way you can get anything done is through corruption. This creates a sense of no morality. But people want meaning in their lives
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China's rise stirs Vietnam's anxiety
The Vietnamese government tried to contain public outcry against Chinese assertive claims over the islands in late 2007 and early 2008 in order to prevent diplomatic tension between the two countries. However, in the face of China's increasing assertiveness, the Vietnamese government now encourages the public to research and understand historical and legal evidence to bolster its territorial claims.
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China cautions India on troop build-up near border
BEIJING: China on Thursday rejected suggestions that incursions by its troops into the Indian territory were on the rise, and cautioned India that any move to increase troop presence along the disputed border in Arunachal Pradesh “would only lead to a rivalry between the two countries.”
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Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters on Thursday that China “cannot accept such an allegation.”

Mr. Qin said: “China and India have never demarcated the border. To resolve this issue at an early date is one of the 10 strategies to improve China-India relations. The two countries have reached a consensus on resolving this issue, and we hope the two countries will follow the 10 principles and jointly safeguard stability and tranquillity in the border areas. China has always followed such an attitude to settle the issue.”
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The chinese are sure getting jittery for no reason. Hope New Delhi is well prepared this time !

[url=http://www.china%20daily.com.cn/china/2009-06/10/content_8265793.htm]From China daily[/url]
More India troops in disputed territoryBy Zhang Haizhou (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-06-10 07:19 Comments(35) PrintMailIndia is attempting to extend its control over a disputed border area also claimed by China, experts said Tuesday, in response to reports that New Delhi was deploying "thousands more troops" in parts of "Arunachal Pradesh".

Reuters quoted a "governor of the remote state" as saying India will deploy "two army divisions comprising 25,000 to 30,000 soldiers each".

"It (the deployment) was part of the planned augmentation of our capabilities to defend the country ... The increase in force strength is to meet the future national security challenge," J.J. Singh told Reuters.

The report also said New Delhi would bring more firepower into the disputed zone - adding 155 mm guns, helicopters and unmanned aircraft.

Ye Hailin, an expert in India studies with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS), said New Delhi is strengthening its control because it "knows clearly that China will not resort to military action to solve the problem".

"India is adopting this means to make its control over the area an accepted fact," Ye said.

India and China fought a brief war over the 3,500 km Himalayan border area in 1962.

Although the neighbors signed a treaty and agreed to maintain "peace and tranquility" along the disputed frontier and also agreed to find a political solution, talks have made little progress.

"It (additional deployment) is not helpful to resolve the border dispute, and could easily cause regional tension," said Sun Shihai, who is also with the CASS.

"The chance of a border conflict is not big, if India does not instigate it," he added, noting China wants peaceful solutions through dialogue.
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The chinese are sure getting jittery for no reason.
As NRao previously mentioned in the military watch thread, the Chicoms are probably getting jittery because their political stooges in India are no longer present to prevent a military buildup in the NE.
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India's unwise military moves

Jab Dushman gaali dene lage, to samajho tarakki kar rahe ho !!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

When enemy starts castigating and criticising you, know that you are progressing....
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Next India-China boundary talks in New Delhi
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090615/88 ... -in-n.html
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China says no but US, Japan help ADB clear India’s plan
Despite strong dissent from China, India scored a major diplomatic victory at the Asian Development Bank board meeting today as all other members voted in favour to grant approval for the $2.9-billion India plan.

China had blocked a consensus because it contained $60-million watershed development projects in Arunachal Pradesh.
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The success at the ADB, sources said, was a result of a massive diplomatic effort which saw India sending demarches to all key countries. The scales finally tilted when US, the country with the maximum voting share, came out in India’s favour.

It’s learnt that last week Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee held a meeting in North Block with External Affairs Minister S M Krishna where it was decided that demarches be sent to all 66 countries represented in the ADB.

Specific attention was given to the US, Japan and South Korea, which control large voting shares in the Bank. Assurances were won and detailed explanations were provided to those who had doubts.
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French counter-espionage officials were taken aback to discover that Chinese interns attending France’s elite Ecole Nationale d’Administration were faxing all documents they managed to find at the university directly to their embassy in Paris: draft laws, reforms concerning decentralization, regulations, parliamentary reports and financial information. Went straight to the embassy’s education service.

According to French investigators, other documents are scanned and sent directly to China by e-mail. Around 100 young Chinese officials undergo internships each year at ENA or in regional administrative institutes (Lyons, Metz, Nantes).
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The PRC is most put out by the ADB vote going India’s way :(( :
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Qin Gang's Remarks on Asian Development Bank's Executive Board Adopting a Document Involving Disputed Territories between China and India

2009/06/18

Q: The Asian Development Bank's Executive Board recently adopted the India Country Partnership Strategy (2009-2012), which involves disputed territories between China and India. How do you comment on that?

A: In disregard of China's major concerns, the Asian Development Bank adopted the India Country Partnership Strategy (2009-2012), which involves disputed territories between China and India. China expresses strong dissatisfaction to the move, which can neither change the existence of immense territorial disputes between China and India, nor China's fundamental position on its border issues with India.

As a regional institution on development, the ADB should not intervene in the political affairs of its members. The adoption of the document has not only dealt a severe blow to its own reputation but also undermines the interests of its members. The Chinese Government strongly urges the ADB to take effective measures to eliminate the terrible impact thereof.

As one of its major members, China always supports the ADB to play a positive role in helping the developing countries. China is willing to work with other members in a joint effort to enhance the socio-economic development in the region. On China-India border issues, China always believes that the two sides should seek for a fair and equitable solution acceptable to both through bilateral negotiation.

PRC MFA
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uh-oh....all is not peace and halmony in the people's lepublic, seems like.

Tens of thousands of Chinese fight the police in Shishou
Tens of thousands of rioters torched a hotel and overturned police cars, after the authorities allegedly tried to cover up the murder of a 24-year-old man as a suicide.

The deceased, Tu Yuangao, was the chef of the Yong Long hotel. According to the cops, he committed suicide by jumping off the roof of the building and left a note.

Witnesses said there was no blood on the scene and Tu's body was already cold just after it hit the ground. His parents were surprised at the suicide note, since he was allegedly illiterate.

There are plenty of rumours flying around - that two other employees at the hotel had died in the same way, that the boss of the hotel is related to the mayor of Shishou, that the hotel was a centre for the local drug business and Yu was killed for threatening to expose what was going on. There's also a rumour that three further bodies have been found at the hotel.
Uh-oh. comlade, call beejing. Get the tanks here...hully!
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A few interesting issues (not to mention publications noted) here:
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/200906c.brief.htm
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China requests reserve currency debate at G8
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Mar ... 727180.cms
China has asked to debate proposals for a new global reserve currency at next week's Group of Eight summit in Italy and the issue could be
referred to briefly in the summit statement, G8 sources said.
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:eek:

Urgent instructions from GHQ to all Nandigram rapist goons and their yellow media - Immediate blackout of all news ordered. If you have to report it divide all casualty numbers by 100 and round down to nearest whole number. There is lots of goings on in Honduras, Timbuktu and Mogadishu to fill 'International' pages.

Seriously this unnatural almost 'against the order of nature' all-weather friendship between fanatic barbarians and an essentially godless $$ worshipping society is likely going to unravel sooner than later..
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vsudhir wrote:A Chinese tribute to the American spirit. The first part of what china thinks the world may look like in 2011.
Change Without Movement

Excerpted from The Dragon Rising, Vol. I of Li
Xian’s The Chinese Century, HarperChina. Translated from the Chinese by Peter Moore.

In the months immediately following the collapse of the world’s financial system, it seemed that the liberal nations might still have the opportunity to regain their hegemony. The United States, first among them, was in the advantageous position of already implementing regime change, however slowly. Within two months, the Bush Administration, discredited by its naive attempt to foist democratic regimes onto nations everywhere in the world, was to be removed from office under the lugubrious workings of the American presidential system. It would be replaced by a dynamic political newcomer.

We are so used to the iconic figure of a tragic, spent Barack Obama that it is difficult to remember just how brightly he first blazed across the international scene. A national consensus grew up around his most ambitious plans for rescuing the nation’s—and the world’s—economy before he was even in office. Proposals that had been considered unimaginably radical just weeks before were now accepted as absolutely necessary. America would, for the first time, provide the universal access to health care that has long been considered the minimal provision of true democracy in people’s states. It would embrace the kind of national economic policy already implemented by China and other world powers, supporting (or “bailing out,” in the somewhat derisive American phrase) its major banks and the remnants of its industrial base in auto manufacturing.

Boldest of all, President Obama declared his intention to free his nation from its dependence upon archaic energy resources and technologies. America would take, if you will, a “great leap forward,” overcoming thirty-five years of directionless energy policy with a vast investment of money and manpower—a project that would at once rebuild its industrial base, solve the problems of global warming, and restore its supremacy over the global economy.

Who was to say that this could not be accomplished? This supremely energetic nation had in the past astonished the world by declaring its intention to achieve an impossible goal and then doing it, against all predictions, most notably in its determination to outproduce the rest of the world during World War II; then again during the race to the moon. Who was to deny it? The sleeping giant, it seemed, had reawakened.
After this lofty testimony, the chinis then weave a fantasy fairytale of US decline.
Today, of course, it is a commonplace that the reasons inveighing against such a dramatic American recovery were inherent in the country’s decline. Contrary to what the chauvinist or racialist schools of thought in our universities contend, this was not due to some sort of national degeneration, or innate failure of character. The people of the United States remained as inventive, as industrious (and as bellicose and avaricious) as ever during the last decades of the twentieth century and the first eight years of the twenty-first.

Nor is it the contention of this work that democracy was never something Americans truly believed in, that it was no more than a “Trojan horse,” in the vivid Western metaphor, used as a cover to smuggle ruinous, American-style capitalism into prostrate, underdeveloped states.

Rather, most Americans actually believed in, even venerated, their traditional, two-party system. It was this very reverence that blinded them when it foundered once and for all on the inherent contradictions of liberal “democracy” soon after Barack Obama took office. The people’s desire for instant gratification, their willingness to elect dangerous demagogues, and the venality and contentions of their leaders all had rendered the American decline inevitable. One might well ask how any system that imbued every faction with such an urgent incentive to see the state fail while its opponent was in power could ever have succeeded. The salient question of American democracy is not why it should have faltered, but why it reigned triumphant for as long as it did.

Yet the iron laws of logic that foretold its fall were ignored in the enthusiasm of the moment. Barack Obama’s election was originally hailed as a great reversal of that decline. His rhetorical (if vague) insistence upon sweeping “change” in the way the national government conducted its business, his mobilization of many younger voters, and his utilization of advanced communications technology to conduct the campaign allcontributed to the idea that a genuine people’s “movement” had brought the young leader to power. These were, in fact, the most superficial of reforms. The pampered youth of the American bourgeois classes came to believe that their mere attendance at rallies and the symbolic choices they made between factions in the election booths constituted a movement—even a sort of revolution. Sincere though their intentions were, they lacked the historical knowledge of the sustained sacrifice that revolutionary struggle entails. They could not see that their efforts had brought “change” without any real ppolitical movement behind it, and therefore no true change at all.

The new president might have better heeded his predecessor’s first, prudent steps toward silencing political opposition in time of national emergency. Instead, his glasnost-like policies met with that idea’s same ruinous results. A gesture of openness to the frivolous American media was only met with the usual anarchic outcries for still more information.

Overtures of friendship toward leaders of the opposition faction in the Congress, such as Senators McConnell, Bond, and Cornyn, and Representatives Boehner and Hoekstra, were viewed as signs of weakness, and merely solicited further demands for power-sharing. It will seem strange today to many in Asia, or even in the “Failed World” of the West—where nation after nation has of late moved away from the constraints of the multiparty state—that such individuals were not summarily charged with high treason. But such were the logical endpoints of American-style “democracy.”

The perpetrators of chaos, in Congress and in the media, went unpunished. They were thus emboldened to frustrate every reform proposed by the president, no matter how benevolent or obviously required. Health care, green technology, a rescue of the country’s industrial base—all were defeated. Moreover, the Republicans, with the aid of their cavalier allies in the press, were able to accomplish this even though the ruling Democrats held a substantial majority in a system that was supposed to honor “majority rule.” Instead, arcane requirements that demanded the ruling party hold a super-majority in one house (but not
the other!) of the two congressional bodies doomed the whole of President Obama’s program to failure. Yet what else was truly to be expected? The much-vaunted American system of “checks and balances” had checked the assertion of the people’s will once and for all, no matter what boxes they checked off on their repeatedly malfunctioning ballot machines.

The notion of Western democratic liberalism—of the false separation of industry from state, legislature from executive, capital from community, people from government, political parties from one another—had been exposed as hopelessly antiquated. The eternal competition of myriad selfinterested factions for money and for influence had led to a destruction that was neither creative nor patriotic.

Like the fall of a giant idol, the American economy and society collapsed one great block after another. The defeat of all of President Obama’s plans for new green technology, or for a significant investment in people’s transportation forced the United States to fall back upon an “old world” economy fueled solely by oil. In the competition for this resource, it was increasingly outbid by the rising nations that had already been sold America’s industrial base by
the nation’s ownership classes. The bankruptcy of the nation’s system of health care—a service now wholly unaffordable to most American workers—soon followed, leading to the waves of deadly epidemics commonly, and incorrectly, known as the “Seven Plagues.” (In reality, there were thirty-seven.) The rest is a familiar story. Since the exhausted President Obama made his poignant announcement that he would not run for a second term, we have seen the rise of yet more new factions, from the “Bush revival,” to the “Clinton revival,” to the call for “faith-based government” under the rule of the Alaskan demagogue Sarah Palin. The United States, which has long issued warnings in the name of “human rights” to the Chinese state for its curbing of bizarre religious superstitions, may yet have the opportunity to learn what it is like to be governed by such notions.

In any event, it is far too late for any of these cults of personality to restore the nation’s standing in the world. One can only speculate what difference the American military’s recent “Patriotic Intervention” in the government will make, but at least it has led to a welcome withdrawal of that institution from the rest of the world. The traditional martial values of selfdiscipline, delayed gratification, and the sacrifice of the individual on behalf of the group are likely at last to teach Americans that the people may move a mountain, but only if they work together. There can be no change without movement, and no movement without state-enforced harmony.
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Image of riot victim?

What with all that blood he is still the walking wounded..can't believe. All photo-shop and tomato ketchup. Look at his face, it is too calm and composed for the situation at hand.

This one is even less believable
There is a guy leisurely walking past the riot police, taking the law into his hands. :shock: The dreaded PLA thugs just watch on....or is this the new riot control strategy.
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Deleted by mistake:
Leonard wrote:More Details on the Shishou incident here ...

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20090621_1.htm

More Pics, and also video ...
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Li Zhi, the head of the Communist Party in Urumqi, appeared at the South Gate plaza to beseech the protesters to go home. But his speech angered some of them even more, especially when he repeatedly yelled, “Strike down Rebiya!” — a reference to Rebiya Kadeer, a Uighur businesswoman and human rights advocate in Washington whom the Chinese government blames for the Sunday rioting.
But photographs that appeared online after the battle showed people standing around a pile of bodies, leading many Uighurs to believe that the government was playing down the number of dead Uighurs. One Uighur student said the photographs began showing up on many Web sites about one week ago. Government censors repeatedly tried to delete them, but to no avail, he said.

“Uighurs posted it again and again in order to let more people know the truth, because how painful is it that the government does bald-faced injustice to Uighur people?” said the student, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution from the government.

A call for protests spread on Web sites and QQ, the most popular instant-messaging program in China, despite government efforts to block online discussion of the feud.
Wow. No doubt, someone outside lit and fanned the flames. yindia better watch out for such tactics deployed against Dilli. Already ethnic and religious divisions fanned from outside are rife, some would say, esp in J&K. Somehow, am not too happy about this revolution/protest template become successful in PRC coz I fear it will definitely next be tried in the subcontinent, starting with J&K and with Myanmar.

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Iconic pic of a mother taking on army of thugs
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Hu leaves G8 amid Chinese rioting

Is the unrest in Xinjiang really serious or is Mr.Hu trying to avoid scrutiny?
Chinese President Hu Jintao has cut short a visit to Italy for the G8 summit amid ongoing unrest in Xinjiang.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8139065.stm
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r_subramanian wrote:Is the unrest in Xinjiang really serious or is Mr.Hu trying to avoid scrutiny?
How about both? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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As expected,the Chinese have reacted to the riots in Urumqui by flooding the city with troops and a show of force."Gin & Tonic" has fled the G-8 summit scuttling back to try and defuse the situ,which has threatened to spiral out of control.Any armed crackdown against the Uighurs will only hasten an anti-China Islamic militancy,whcih will receive willing help from the likes of the sponsors of Al Q and even the west.The genie of anti-Han violence has however escaped,as it did in Tibet earlier and China's crude attempt at "social engineering",by dumping Han Chinese in non-Han regions,has finally come home to roost.The Chinese bubble of social stability has been blown apart by these riots and coming just after the anniversary of the bloody crackdown of Tian Men Sq.,does inspire little long term confidence in China's authoritarian rulers in finding a glue to hold China together.The pro-Chinese chants by the Hans show their clear underlying attitude of wanting dominance over the other ethic minorities.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... te]Chinese troops flood into riot city as Hu Jintao flies home
Jane Macartney in Urumqi
Thousands of Chinese troops poured into the restive city of Urumqi early today in a massive show of force, as President Hu Jintao cut short a visit to Italy for the G8 summit to deal with the outbreak of ethnic violence.

Along one road ringing the capital of the western region of Xianjiang where 156 people died in riots on Sunday, The Times counted more than 30 paramilitary trucks, each followed by about two dozen men, many in black body armour, and most carrying riot shields, batons and fire arms.

The convoys included several white armoured personnel carriers accompanied by tear gas vans, all with paramilitaries standing ready to open fire if necessary. They were preceded by land cruisers, their sirens wailing as they moved almost at a walking pace through the town.

On the sides of the trucks were banners reading: "See the people as our father and mother".

How unrest in China flared to violence
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PICTURES: China unrest
In the centre of the city around People's Square, army helicopters circled overhead as hundreds more paramilitary troops marched in brigades of 20 to 30 chanting: "Defend the Motherland, defend the people."

A Han Chinese man surnamed Run said, as he watched the troops rolling by; "We support this. The government has to take action to protect the people. But they should have got here sooner. It took them three days to do this. Why so long?"

Mr Hu's decision to return home came after another day of strife in Urumqi on Tuesday, as thousands of Han Chinese roamed the streets looking for vengeance after Sunday's riots, which left 156 dead and more than 800 injured.

He left Italy early today "due to the situation in northwest China's Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region" Xinhua, China's state news agency reported.

Mr Hu decided to curtail his trip "given the worsening of the disorder in Xinjiang," Tang Heng, the first political counsellor at the Chinese embassy in the Italian capital told Italy's ANSA news agency.

Although China is not a member of the Group of Eight, talks at the summit were to include emerging powers including China and India.

State Councillor Dai Bingguo would take part in the summit on Mr Hu's behalf, Xinhua reported.

This morning, the streets were quiet and cars began moving agin. But although the angry mobs had not returned, many Han Chinese were still carrying makeshift weapons in the city centre and outlying districts.

"I'm carrying this just for my own feeling of safety," said a man named Li as he walked near the city centre carrying a martial arts nanchuk - two batons held together by a chain.

One woman in her 30s was seen walking on the street carrying a large stick with nails coming out of it, while others were carrying knives and steel poles.

Many shops and businesses remained closed and there were no buses or taxis running through the centre of town.

Chinese officials have already blamed the unrest on separatist groups abroad, which it says want to create an independent homeland of East Turkestan for the Uighurs. Ms Kadeer, the exiled Uighur businesswoman and activist blamed for the violence, denied having anything to do with it. She said: "These accusations are completely false."

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The uighurs are followers of the RoP, not peaceful Tibetan Buddhists,..they'll claw back at the Han in every way they can. The Han commie goons may have bitten off more than they can chew this time. If foreign RoP elements start flooding in, the commies will have their hands full.

I wonder if the latest round of violence was fomented by Unkil as 'gentle' reminder to PRC to watch it's step and not rock the boat too much wrt NoKo and $ currency replacement.
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China asks Pakistan, other countries to unearth links with Urumqi violence
A worried Hu Jintao, secretary-general of the Communist Party of China and the country's president left the G8 summit in Italy and rushed back to Beijing on Tuesday night as it dawned on Chinese authorities that the Urumqi violence might set off a chain reaction and eventually affect the party position.
China wants several countries including Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Germany and the United States to help unearth links between their local citizens and the World Uyghur Congress, which Beijing considers to be behind the violence in Urumqi. One report suggested that foreign ministry officials are in talks with envoys of Afghanistan posted in Beijing on the issue.
If so called non-state actors will be involved than pakis will be in deep trouble. I hope world will come together and teach one or two lessons to pakis.

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Any Uyghurs in India?
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The future
http://www.responsiblenanotechnology.org/Scenario7.pdf
6 May 2014 - Follow-up investigations (again mostly by underground reporters) have shown the
devastating impacts of pollution in Chinese cities, towns, and countrysides that no one has
previously seen; truly massive protests in the major population centers against these appalling
revelations are provoking even more swift and bloody government crackdowns; and this in turn
leads to more investigative reports, more riots, more deaths, and more unrest. Can China hold
together?

5 Jul 2014 - It looks like the Chinese government is falling part.

23 Aug 2014 - The People’s Republic of China has ceased to exist. The largest nation in the
history of the world is imploding before our very eyes. Taiwan has moved in to claim some
territory, pieces of the Chinese Red Army are holding onto certain areas, while mass anarchy
prevails across most of the country. It’s being called “The Crash.” No one can say how many
thousands -- millions? -- will suffer, starve, or be killed in this horrific turn of events.

6 Jan 2015 - Given China’s former preeminence as the world’s major center for manufacturing of
consumer goods, it’s not surprising that a severe global recession followed last summer’s Crash.
We’re all facing bad times today.

10 Feb 2015 - Now, this is interesting. It turns out that China started a secret government
program back around 2010 to develop “desktop nanofactories.” Nobody knew about it, or knew
how close they were getting, until after The Crash.
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When we started this thread, it was *not* meant to be a general China news thread at all.

Its primary aim was to understand what happens inside Zhongnanhai, and the dynamics within the CPC and PLA, who's rising, who is being marginalized, etc. Their opaque nature means that it is difficult to tell whether there is a power struggle going on, until matters have already reached a crisis point.

In this regard, Hu Jintao's urgent return to China from the G8 summit in Italy seems odd. I wonder if there's a rift between the PLA and the CPC, or between a faction backing Hu and some other ? Note that Hu is not the PM (Wen Jiabao is), but the President, General Secretary of the CPC, and Chairman of the Central Military Commission. He was originally the CPC chief of Xizang (Tibet) Autonomous Region.
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I had started writing a piece on the political power of PLA for SRR but haven't managed to complete it. only a third has been completed till now with no signs that requisite time will be available to complete it in the near future. :oops:

here is the incomplete draft : http://ifile.it/cexajhy
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