Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

[RajeshA]

Very Bojitive Neuj, Gola goes singing and becomes sensation:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ation.html

That ain't really Urdu??? "Tose Laagi"

Is he talking about ABV or MMS?

[archan]

Kaffir! don't you know Pakistan is an ancient civilization? they have a vibrant, multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-father vagehra vagehra society.

[Gerard]

US reluctant to sign a civil nuclear accord with Pakistan

[Bhima]

Pakistan's nukes are safe. Maybe.

[pgbhat]

Challenge and response ---- Tariq Osman Hayder

Pakistan was created to provide a homeland for the Muslims of the subcontinent to develop in a manner they could not have done as a deprived minority. While more could have been achieved, this objective has been realised. The traumatic breakup of Pakistan in 1971 has not negated the two-nation theory as Pakistan and Bangladesh still provide a supportive counterpoise to an India which has consistently tried to dominate all its South Asian neighbours.

Much of what has not been better done in Pakistan in these past 62 years is due to the challenge and response necessitated by India. Pakistan with its industrious 175 million citizens, located anywhere else in the world, would have become a more important middle power than it is now.

India for its part has not been free from religious extremism. {equal-equal}

India wants a democratic Pakistan which overcomes extremism and terrorism. Pakistan wants an India which does not try to dominate and works for peacefully to resolve all disputes; there is recognition amongst the majority of its political leadership and the people at large that within such a framework much better relations are achievable. As the bigger country, India should reciprocate. {Magnanimity anyone }

[archan]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RON9ROqJtoY&NR=1[/youtube]
So they catch this dude who had been blowing people up in the Kohat region and he confesses to killing of the Polish engineer. The reason I post this video is that the news clearly says that his handler had told him he will be able to get money and solve their monetary problems as well as get their friends out of jail if they capture the foreign engineer. One of the guys suggested that there are a few Chinese engineers as well who are easier prey. The handler vetoed the idea saying "Chinese are our friends". However it was not friendship that stopped him, but that he has a transport business and he wanted th Chinese to continue building infrastructure so his profits continue.
So here it is again, and the pakis have no shame in blaming India for attacks on the Chinese in pakiland. If you are going to make accusations, at least make them such that the world does not at you.

[Gerard]

Blind Pakistan cricketers denied visas to Britain

[BijuShet]

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This Polish guy was born in 1908. OK

Due to this passion, he moved to Warsaw where he attended Warsaw University of Technology in 1920, majoring in aeronautical engineering; upon graduation, he received his PhD with honors in 1926.

Now, He got a PhD Honors in 1926. According to the SDRE Maths, thats actually an age when one gets a Highschool Diploma! If this is true then he is a genius, Getting a Honors PhD at the age of 18 and flying Sabre Jet at age of 57 and annihilating the Indian Air Force, You have to admit. You kufr SDREs.

OT Alert :
He got his Polish Highschool Diploma at the age of 16 (circa 1926). Pakis being pakis called it PhD so simple.

[archan]

He got his Polish Highschool Diploma at the age of 16 (circa 1926). Pakis being pakis called it PhD so simple.

P.h.d. - that is hilarious!
ah, pakis make this world such a funny place!

[Rahul Shukla]

Blind Pakistan cricketers denied visas to Britain

The players, all amateurs, had all taken leave from their jobs, and spent a considerable amount of money on a recent training camp.

[Rahul Shukla]

Blind Pakistan cricketers denied visas to Britain

The players, all amateurs, had all taken leave from their jobs, and spent a considerable amount of money on a recent training camp.

That's a bad, bad choice of words when submitting application to a firangi immigration official these days. Especially if you are from Pakistan.

We will make no apology for maintaining tough border controls created to prevent abuse of the immigration system," the agency said in a statement. "If applications do not contain the necessary evidence and we are not satisfied individuals will return at the end of their visit their visas will be refused."

[Rahul Shukla]

Blind Pakistan cricketers denied visas to Britain

The players, all amateurs, had all taken leave from their jobs, and spent a considerable amount of money on a recent training camp.

That's a bad, bad combo of words to use while submitting application to a firangi immigration official these days especially if you are from Pakistan.

We will make no apology for maintaining tough border controls created to prevent abuse of the immigration system," the agency said in a statement. "If applications do not contain the necessary evidence and we are not satisfied individuals will return at the end of their visit their visas will be refused."

[a_kumar]

Blind Pakistan cricketers denied visas to Britain

Its taken out of context. The message was actually "Happy Independence Day!"

[Bhima]

The secrets of Pakistan's survival

[VinodTK]

US officials detain Pakistan journalist

[Vivek_A]

Pakistan ain't exactly 'pregnant with possibilities'

Buggering doesn't result in pregnancy.

[Prem]

But Pakis are impregnable to reason.

The physical law of nature PROVIDE immunity for Pakistan to become pregnable. No Chakka , GUBO or other position irrelevant, have ever become pregnant even with 3 and half massa trying hard. Pakistan have well heeded General Patton's advise to British wimmen in avoiding pregnancy and still enjoying positional pleasures.

[r_subramanian]

Call for new constitution

Opinion-makers of Sindh call for new constitution
Validity of 1973 Constitution has come to an end due to continuous undemocratic interventions, extra-constitutional amendments and its inherent flaws.
...
The 1973 Constitution should work for an interim period leading to a new constitution based on 1940 resolution through a new elected constituent assembly.
That constitution would work as a new social contract among the federating units of Pakistan, they said.
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Call for new constitution
All well-wishers of Pakistan in BR and in India must lend their full support to this call for new constitution

[Chinmayanand]

Say goodbye to terror, Pakistan to militants

Reeling under terror onslaught, the Pakistan government appealed to militants to surrender their arms and "say goodbye to terrorism" on the occasion of the country's 63rd Independence Day today.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik said the cases of those who surrendered would be examined on an individual basis, with authorities deciding between "leniency" and prosecution.

"On August 14, my message for these terrorists is: let's start a new day, surrender your arms, come to the political or law enforcement authorities and say goodbye to terrorism," Malik told journalists after attending a ceremony at the Police Martyrs' Monument here.

Referring to the reported killing of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud in a US drone attack in South Waziristan Agency earlier this month, he said the government is close to collecting material evidence of his death.

"The evidence may be (video) footage or DNA test.

[Jaspreet]

Reeling under terror onslaught, the Pakistan government appealed to militants to surrender their arms and "say goodbye to terrorism" on the occasion of the country's 63rd Independence Day today.

I think in 1977 Jaiprakash Narayan had some smugglers take an oath that they will not take up smuggling again. It was televised live.
Just a random memory.

[SSridhar]

The secrets of Pakistan's survival

I scoured the article for the so-called 'secrets'. But, not a word. That title is misleading. Of course, everyone knows the reason how Pakistan survives from day-to-day but nobody mentions it, except in BRf.

[SSridhar]

Thinking about Pakistan - Edit by Najam Sethi

There is nothing more dishonourable than being poor. The warlike slogan of “we will eat grass” is a false slogan. The majority poor of Pakistan deserve better.

[pgbhat]

‘Understanding Pak-India ties key to realising Jinnah’s dream’
Regurgitation of same old stuff.

LAHORE: A better understanding of the strategic perception of India-Pakistan ties is the key to the future of South Asia and the realisation of the dream of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, eminent historian Ayesha Jalal said on Friday.

She was addressing a seminar titled ‘Jinnah’s Vision of Pakistan and Relations with Neighbours’ at the South Asian Free Media Association (SAFMA) head office on Friday. Former federal minister SM Masood, former ambassador Khalid Mehmood and Government College University faculty member Prof Tahir Kamran also spoke on the occasion.

<SNIP>

She said Jinnah had once stated that India would have to shed its superiority complex and enter a number of treaties with Pakistan for the future of both the countries.

Speaking on the occasion, Masood said there was no greater champion of human rights and united India than Jinnah, but the Congress elite frequently sabotaged his campaign and forced him to demand a separate homeland for the Muslims of India.

[VinodTK]

Pakistanis feel US enemy No 1, not India

[SSridhar]

‘Understanding Pak-India ties key to realising Jinnah’s dream’

From the above,

Jalal said Jinnah had envisioned a secular Pakistan where all citizens had equal rights but later the governments subverted the ideals of the founder of the country. She said it was also a fact that Jinnah had tilted towards religion during his sixties, but the term secular is sometimes confused with atheism and there starts an argument whether Jinnah believed in religion or not.

No, Jinnah did not envision a secular Pakistan. It is clear from this

The Pir of Manki Sharif…founded an organisation of his own, the Anjuman-us-asfia. The organisation promised to support the Muslim League on condition that Shariat would be enforced in Pakistan. To this Jinnah agreed. As a result the Pir of Manki Sharif declared jehad to achieve Pakistan and ordered the members of his anjuman to support the League in the 1946 elections Jinnah’s letter to to Pir Manki Sharif in which he promised that the Shariah will be applied to the affairs of the Muslim community is quoted in the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan Debates, Volume 5, 1949, p. 46.

Let me give other examples.

While portraying himself as a secularist and a Constitutionalist, Jinnah nevertheless asked only an Islamic clergy, Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani who had apostatised Shias, to raise the flag of Pakistan on Aug. 14, 1947. Maulana Shabbir Ahmed Usmani, brother of Maulana Zafar Ahmed Usmani, led the janaza prayers of Mohammed Ali Jinnah when he passed away. Maulana Shabbir Usmani’s student was Maulana Yusuf Banuri who founded the famous Banuri seminary in Karachi that has been in the forefront of jihad. Maulana Usmani famously demanded ‘jiziya’ from non-Muslims in the Constituent Assembly and told Pakistan’s first Minister for Law and Labour, Jogendra Nath Mandal, a Hindu, that non-Muslims should not hold such key posts.

Even earlier, Jinnah had assured a representative of the influential founder of the Deobandi order, Mawdudi that he saw no incompatibility between their two approaches.I am quoting from Vali Nasr's eminently readable work, "The Vanguard of the Islamic Revolution", on Mawdudi.

Soon after the formation of the Jama‘at in 1941, Qamaru’ddin Khan, the secretary-general of the Jama‘at, was dispatched to Delhi to meet with Jinnah. Through the good offices of Raja Mahmudabad—a deeply religious and generous patron of the League—a meeting was arranged between Qamaru’ddin Khan and Jinnah at the latter’s residence. During the meeting, which lasted for forty-five minutes, Qamaru’ddin Khan outlined the Jama‘at’s political platform and enjoined Jinnah to commit the League to the Islamic state. Jinnah responded astutely that he saw no incompatibility between the positions of the Muslim League and the Jama‘at, but that the rapid pace at which the events were unfolding did not permit the League to stop at that point simply to define the nature of the future Muslim state: “I will continue to strive for the cause of a separate Muslim state, and you do your services in this regard; our efforts need not be mutually exclusive.” Then he added, “I seek to secure the land for the mosque; once that land belongs to us, then we can decide on how to build the mosque.” The metaphor of the mosque no doubt greatly pleased Qamaru’ddin Khan, who interpreted it as an assurance that the future state would be Islamic. At the time, the Jama‘at decided not to make this meeting public, although it had served to quell the anxieties of the pro-Pakistan members of the Jama‘at and had been seen as a green light for greater political activism by the party. If anything, Jinnah had hinted that his task was only to secure the land for the “mosque”; its building, the Jama‘at concluded, would be the work of the religiously adept. What this meant for the Jama‘at was that a continuum existed between the activities of the Muslim League and those of the Jama‘at; where one ended at partition the other began: the Jama‘at-i Islami was to inherit Pakistan. The symbiotic relationship between the League and the Jama‘at, within a communalist framework, was strengthened.

Thus Mawdudi reconciled with the Quaid-e-Azam whom he once referred to as Kafir-e-Azam.

Again, on Oct. 30, 1947, with the plan of his Kashmir invasion to grab it floundering badly, Jinnah resorted to appealing to Islamic fervour. He asked Pakistanis to make sacrifices for ‘the honour of Pakistan and Islam’. He exhorted his countrymen to ‘lay the foundations of democracy on the bases of truly Islamic ideals and principles’. His muddled thinking but his unequivocal support for an Islamic governance was amply demonstrated in his Feb. 1948 public address over Radio Pakistan when he said that Pakistan’s to-be-drafted Constitution should be based on Islam but he hoped that Pakistan would not be a theocratic state.

[arun]

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan is truly a society caught in a time warp :

83% favour stoning adulterers
80% favour whipping and cutting of hands of thieves
78% favour death penalty for leaving Islam

Pakistani Public Opinion

[Rohit_K]

Six killed, over a 100 hurt in celebratory gunshot related incidents

3 bombs explode killing one, injuring 18 in Balochistan - what kind of score is this?

[SSridhar]

3 bombs explode killing one, injuring 18 in Balochistan - what kind of score is this?

That has how it has been for a long time in Balochistan. There is also Pakistani suppression of facts and it is so easy to do that in remote Balochistan. However, the Balochis have been unable to have a major hit for a long, long time. It doesn't inspire much confidence in this SDRE kafir.

[SSridhar]

Fazl-ur-Rehman forces GoP to cancel mixed marathon on I-Day

The manner in which the Shaheed Benazirabad district government was forced to call off a mixed-gender marathon is an example of the increasingly dangerous and unfettered power wielded by the country’s rightwing elements. Through posters and banners, the district administration had invited men, women and children to participate in the Independence Day event. But this healthy public activity was cancelled when the right-leaning JUI-F threatened sit-ins and warned that ‘any repercussions of such an event’ would be the district government’s responsibility.

So effective was the threat that the district administration declared that the publicity material had contained ‘typographical errors’ and that the marathon was for men only. JUI-F representatives said that the party did not want to take the law into its own hands — but that is in fact what their implied threat to invoke civil unrest amounted to. The administration was virtually blackmailed into acquiescence.

Now, let's remember that Fazl-ur-Rehman does not consider Jinnah as a freedom fighter for Pakistan. He does not want his picture either in the NA.

[Satya_anveshi]

Nawaz asks army to file lawsuit against Musharraf

LAHORE: The chief of the Pakistan Muslim League-N has called upon the armed forces to distance themselves from former president Pervez Musharraf and not to pre-empt his trial.

‘The military should cut its ties with Musharraf and should itself file a lawsuit against him,’ Nawaz Sharif said at an Independence Day function here on Friday.

‘Those who abrogated the Constitution, damaged the judiciary and arrested judges must be punished,’ he said.

‘If a violator of a traffic signal can be penalised, why a person who violated the basic law of the land should go scot-free,’ the former prime minister argued.

Mr Sharif was speaking at a flag-hoisting ceremony at the Aiwan-i-Karkunan-i-Pakistan.

He urged the government to fulfil its responsibility, saying he saw no need for a unanimous resolution in parliament for bringing the former army chief to the dock.

The government should shed its reluctance, he added. ‘The talk of (Musharraf’s) accountability in parliament must not send shivers down the spine of anyone.’

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani had recently told the National Assembly that the government would prosecute Mr Musharraf for treason only after the house passed a unanimous resolution.Why is this has to be unanimous? Is there any constitutional requirement? Moral stand? in Pakistan? Did Musharraf wait for any "unanimous" consensus?}

Mr Sharif said Gen Musharraf should be brought to justice for pushing the country into a series of crises by ‘getting Nawab Akbar Bugti murdered and ordering a crackdown on students of Jamia Hafsa’.

Mr Sharif said he, as prime minister, had not been consulted by the army generals over the 1999 Kargil war.

‘I accepted responsibility for the misadventure to rescue the country and the military, but in return I was ousted from power and put in solitary detention before being exiled.’

He said the country could not afford another martial law. {I think he is warning PA here...do it or else...}

[Satya_anveshi]

But one thing I must say in regard to Pakistani politicians. Of all, I found PML-N politicians more pro, vocal, appealing, aggressive than the rag-tag MQM, PML-Q. PPP is distant second but not as bad as MQM and PML-Q.

As you may all agree...Marvi is not bad for her age and considering she is in Pakistan. I wonder how she manages all that being so nice

[Yash]

Amazing...The man in this video is an engineering student in TSP.

[Source: Gizmodo]

[Gagan]

So what is so funny about the video? The guy is an engineering student for gods sake. That is just about enough intelligence as you would ever need to become a new-clear scientist or a missile scientist in pakistan.
All he has to do is to erase new delhi and mumbai from the missile and point it skywards and he can become a space scientist also.

[Singha]

could be some madarsa genius in india - there is a saffron-white-green poster in top right.
I can vaguely make out "kashmir" .... could be some protest poster in pak.

[Philip]

Jinnah was simply ambitious and the monocled,dandy of a Muslim,who drank,ate pork (loved his wife's ham sandwiches),wanted his own moth-eaten patch of earth to rule over and was ably assisted in his ambitions by the perfidious British,who wanted to rend India into smaller pieces so that India would become weaker,as Gandhi had so amply demonstrated had a moral force far stronger than the military might of the British Empire!What would it accomplish in world affairs if that moral might was unleashed against British and western interests? India had to be dismembered and Pak was the ******** nation that resulted out of the fornication of the British and Jinnah.Abandoned by its parents,Jinnah through an early death,Pak has ended up becoming the rent-boy of the west,in particular the US.

[Rohit_K]

could be some madarsa genius in india - there is a saffron-white-green poster in top right.
I can vaguely make out "kashmir" .... could be some protest poster in pak.

That's the display pic and logo of the uploader's channel


Notice how it fades in at the start of the video.

[sreeji]

Some paki tryin to instigate Hyd muslims to speak against India in this video with generous Indian assistance. Why are pakis (other than ones needing med help or meeting relatives) given visas to come to India in the first place.

[Singha]

BBC

Pakistan-Turkey rail trial starts
BBC

Pakistan has begun its first international freight train service from Islamabad to Istanbul.

The 6,500km (4,040 mile) trial service via the Iranian capital, Tehran, is a pilot project of the regional Economic Co-operation Organisation.

Officials expect it to boost Pakistan's trade with Turkey and Iran - currently estimated at $1bn - by as much as 50%.

There are also hopes the route will eventually provide a link to Europe and Central Asia, and carry passengers. (millions of pakistanis and drug consignments can move easier by land route to EU)

Pakistan Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani he hoped the route would one day also provide passenger services and boost tourism, reports said.

The train will pull 20 containers on its maiden journey from Islamabad railway station, delivering 14 to Tehran and six to Istanbul a fortnight after it sets off.

The first journey will also take railway experts from the three countries on board to gauge the performance and check for obstacles over the vast terrain.

Mr Gilani described the beginning as "an epic event", Pakistan's APP news agency reported.

Some operational obstacles also remain to be resolved, and parts of the route need to be upgraded, he added.

[SSridhar]

A suicide attack after a long time, AoA

A suicide bomber rammed an explosive-laden vehicle into a security checkpoint situated in Swat Valley on Saturday, killing at least three soldiers, two security officials said.

It was the first suicide attack in Swat since July, when the government said a military offensive against the Pakistani Taliban in the valley and surrounding areas had largely been successful.

Several more soldiers manning the checkpoint were wounded in the attack in the town of Khawaza Khela, said the two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the press.

[James B]

India snubs Holbrooke, wants him to stick to Af-Pak