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 Post subject: Modeling the Indian Armed Forces
PostPosted: 31 May 2009 01:50 pm 
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This thread has been started for more interaction between People modeling & those who would like to model Equipments used by the Indian Armed Forces like Tanks, Aircrafts, Ships etc.
This thread is being started after prior permission from Forum Moderator - JaiS

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PostPosted: 31 May 2009 01:54 pm 
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That's a good idea. Hope it encourages more BRFites to take up building scale models. It's a little time consuming but the results are usually reward enough!


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PostPosted: 31 May 2009 02:18 pm 
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I recently started modeling & i have 3 kits

1, Airfix Hawker Hunter
2, Academy JU87G-1 STUKA
3, Airfix Hawker Hurricane

The Hunter model is almost complete and i plan to paint it in IAF colours, but iam having two problems in it

1, I am not able to get the aluminum colour, after a long search found only silver colour which needs to be mixed with a binder before painting & its really hard to use it on plastic model (i use acrylic colours)
2, Decals for IAF are really hard to find, If anyone has soft copy of roundel & fin flash for 1:72 & 1:144 Kindly post it online

Thank You


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PostPosted: 31 May 2009 02:41 pm 
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As far as the decals go, you can create a softcopy and scale it based on the size of your aircraft. Then print it out on a decal paper and you should be set. That is what I did for my previous model.
All the best!


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PostPosted: 31 May 2009 07:27 pm 
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Have you tried Alclad II natural metal finish?
http://www.alclad2.com/


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PostPosted: 01 Jun 2009 12:13 am 
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Raja Bose wrote:
Have you tried Alclad II natural metal finish?
http://www.alclad2.com/


Are these available in India


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guys, if you are really deep into modelling and you are located IN india , then I would suggest joining this group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/airnuts/


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PostPosted: 01 Jun 2009 02:56 am 
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Sorry no idea if Alclad is available in India. Modelling supplies are hard to come by in India even today due to limited popularity.


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Aluminum (metal) colour can be approximated by mixing a little black or shades of grey with the silver. Experiment with small amounts to get the colour you want. You can get a nice colour for the darker hot metal parts like jet exhausts also that way by adding more black.


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Any suggested reading or online guide for someone who is new to modelling?


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Sriman wrote:
Any suggested reading or online guide for someone who is new to modelling?


This is a decent one: http://www.buildingscalemodelaircraft.com/

A good way is to regularly browse thru sites like ARC: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com where modelers will often describe how they built a model and even provide step-by-step build pics. There you will come across quite a few IAF aircraft including some built by BRF jingos. :mrgreen:


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Sriman wrote:
Any suggested reading or online guide for someone who is new to modelling?


You could start off with smaller kits which do not have a large number of parts and are less complex. Use the first couple of kits to hone your skills with building, cement, decals and paint. Any of these going wrong could potentially ruin the model.


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Kakarat wrote:

2, Decals for IAF are really hard to find, If anyone has soft copy of roundel & fin flash for 1:72 & 1:144 Kindly post it online


Kakarat,

I purchased a set of IAF decals for a 1:72 MiG-27/23BN Flogger from spruebrothers.com a few months ago. I'm not sure if they still have them in stock (they were down to the last piece when i bought it), maybe you could request them to restock it.

Here are the details:
HDL72017 1:72 Hi-Decal Line MiG-27 MiG-23 BN Flogger #72017
http://www.spruebrothers.com

The set includes the IAF roundel and fin flash, and Wolfpack squadron logo, amongst a set of Russian, Iraqi, Libyan logo's...

Hope this helps, good luck!

-ankur


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ankur thanks for the link will have a look at it


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BRF has no section for Aeromodellers and Flight Sim gamers, so I am taking the liberty of putting my query here.

Decades ago I was an aeromodeller - primarily glider/internal combustion engine powered models. ha was what taught me a great deal "intuitively" of how aircraft behave in the air.

I am looking for specific information on brushless motors, batteries and props to go with them. I believe that if I first buy a power plant and battery, I can then build models - i.e wild designs made by me rather than off the shelf models.

Also I don;t want anything more to do with balsa wood. I will use only styrofoam - is that what is used?

Anyone with experience/current interest?


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PostPosted: 04 Jul 2009 03:11 am 
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My first IAF model is up. Thanks Jagan for your help putting it here. :D

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Galleries/Models/Misc/018/


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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2009 10:41 pm 
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shiv wrote:
BRF has no section for Aeromodellers and Flight Sim gamers, so I am taking the liberty of putting my query here.

Decades ago I was an aeromodeller - primarily glider/internal combustion engine powered models. ha was what taught me a great deal "intuitively" of how aircraft behave in the air.

I am looking for specific information on brushless motors, batteries and props to go with them. I believe that if I first buy a power plant and battery, I can then build models - i.e wild designs made by me rather than off the shelf models.

Also I don;t want anything more to do with balsa wood. I will use only styrofoam - is that what is used?

Anyone with experience/current interest?


http://www.skyhighhobby.com/about

Nice website. Has info on brushless motors and foams.

I am currently busy trying to design and fly some of my K-class KNO3/Sugar rockets from Melkote dry lake bed. Mach 1-1.5 to 5000 feet is the design spec lets see how it actually works! :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: 01 Nov 2009 08:39 pm 
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Hi!

How are you going to source the KNO3?
You buying ready made rocket motors or going to extract KNO3 from fertilizer and make "Rocket Candy" :wink:


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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009 04:37 pm 
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anishns wrote:
Hi!

How are you going to source the KNO3?
You buying ready made rocket motors or going to extract KNO3 from fertilizer and make "Rocket Candy" :wink:


I bought KNO3 from a shop in BVK Iyengar Road.


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shiv wrote:
BRF has no section for Aeromodellers and Flight Sim gamers, so I am taking the liberty of putting my query here.

Decades ago I was an aeromodeller - primarily glider/internal combustion engine powered models. ha was what taught me a great deal "intuitively" of how aircraft behave in the air.

I am looking for specific information on brushless motors, batteries and props to go with them. I believe that if I first buy a power plant and battery, I can then build models - i.e wild designs made by me rather than off the shelf models.

Also I don;t want anything more to do with balsa wood. I will use only styrofoam - is that what is used?

Anyone with experience/current interest?


try this : indiarc.com
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btw, has anyone attempted modelling military a/c without using any kits, ie, using just cardboard, Styrofoam/thermocol and fevicol ?


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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009 10:47 pm 
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I'm looking for IAF decals. I have got 2 models, one a Mirage-2000H and the other a MiG-29 ready in IAF camo, but I cannot find IAF decals and when I tried printing my own, it just didn't work out because I'd used an inkjet printer and not a laser printer. Is anyone aware of any site where one can get good IAF decals which are not too expensive ? My next projects are to build the MiG-21 Bison (from a MiG-21-93 kit), Sea Harrier (half-built already) and a Jaguar IS. I've also got a MiG-23 and MiG-21F13 which I'll take up after I finish these. Unfortunately, having looked around a lot, I've noticed that there is isn't a single good MiG-27 model kit around.


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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009 10:55 pm 
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Bob V wrote:
btw, has anyone attempted modelling military a/c without using any kits, ie, using just cardboard, Styrofoam/thermocol and fevicol ?


I've done those- plenty of them in fact. as a kid, I'd done them primarily because kits were too expensive. there were ads in some science magazine for kits that cost Rs 500-700 and in the late 1990s, that was a LOT of money ! I started with the F-16 (which I think is one of the best looking fighter jets ever), then did a MiG-27, Alphajet, MiG-21, Jaguar, F-18, Su-30MK, Sea Harrier, Harrier, F-15E, Rafale and Eurofighter..I did them with cardboard as the primary structural component and then using paper, going on and on with layering to get the required shape. I got the approximate dimensions from my Encyclopedia on fighters and tried to scale them as closely as possible to 1/72, although I wasn't too precise in those days.

I'll try and post a few pics of the only 2 of those fighters (Rafale and Eurofighter twin seat) that are with me now, the rest are back home..


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PostPosted: 03 Nov 2009 11:07 pm 
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Bob V wrote:
btw, has anyone attempted modelling military a/c without using any kits, ie, using just cardboard, Styrofoam/thermocol and fevicol ?


Yeah many moons ago I did a SU-30K in the old Blue Gray IAF colours using aluminium foil with underlying cardboard structure (it was a free standing model with complete landing gear and luckily not a tail sitter!). Still have it back at home. Posted some pics of it on B-R back then (unfortunately did not have access to a good camera and the pics came out foggy).


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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009 12:20 am 
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I've done plenty of ready made kits of almost all the old WW-2 fighters from zeros to the bristol blenheim when I was kid. However, the cheapest and easiest way to make a model from scratch I've found is to make a paper-mache model. No need for all the cutting and sawing and sanding with other balsa or cardboard models. Its not that hard to build from scratch if you build them in stages and glue them together. Some GI wire and some clay are more than adequate to serve as a good surfaces to make a mold on. If you want to get really fancy you could get some Plastic resin and coat the paper mache model to get that glossy finish of an mint-conditional model. The hardest part in WW2 aircraft is making the props and getting to move freely in the finished product. With jet however, that problem is not an issue.


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PostPosted: 04 Nov 2009 02:27 am 
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More than a decade back I had built a MiG-29 and an F-15 out of cardboard from old notebooks and believe it or not, old postcards. I wish I had those now, but I dont.


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